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Nexus one or Iphone 3gs?

I felt this was the correct place to ask this question. I like the widgets and look of an android phone but love the smoothness of the Iphone.
Q1: Do you encounter lag on the Nexus one?
Q2: should i get either a Nexus one or Iphone 3gs?

JuganotUK said:
Q1: Do you encounter lag on the Nexus one?
Q2: should i get either a Nexus one or Iphone 3gs?
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A1:No, non at all...its as smooth as the 3GS. But the Nexus one is a hell of a lot faster then the 3GS
A2: Nexus one without a doubt..
My answers are based on experience as I have both phones currently and the Nexus kicks a$$..the only advantage the iphone has over the nexus are in games and multimedia. Nothing else.

pretty stupid place to ask this question
ask it at an appleforum they will tell you the complete opposite
but who will you trust, people who modify their roms so they are even faster
or people who get excited about the fact that they have folders in os4

Well in that respect yea it is stupid but asking is better than asking nothing at all. I mainly asked about the lag situation because i use the htc hero and there is always some minor lag at the menu or when scrolling through the android market or nearly any long list. I suppose i shall watch more videos on youtube. Thanks to everyone who commented

JuganotUK said:
Well in that respect yea it is stupid but asking is better than asking nothing at all.
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That's a matter of opinion.

The iphone is an expensive toy (i.e. easy to use, but closed and closely policed by apple), the nexus one is an open & powerful computer. Choose.

My main reasoning is the content available in the app store and with jailbreaking they are all free... Very confused

O yes i have one more question. How are the updates with the Nexus one? are they like the Htc hero (constantly delayed).

britoso said:
The iphone is an expensive toy (i.e. easy to use, but closed and closely policed by apple), the nexus one is an open & powerful computer. Choose.
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Amen to that brother

JuganotUK said:
O yes i have one more question. How are the updates with the Nexus one? are they like the Htc hero (constantly delayed).
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remember this is Google's phone
so if there is a update made public, these will be the ones first served

JuganotUK said:
Q1: Do you encounter lag on the Nexus one?
Q2: should i get either a Nexus one or Iphone 3gs?
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A1. The only time I've ever noticed any appreciable lag was when I was monkeying around with SetCPU and inadvertently locked the CPU down to 245MHz...And even then it only really felt a little "delayed", but not laggy.
A2. Here's how I see it...
- Get the iPhone if; You're looking for something intuitive, sleek and a marketplace with pretty much everything you could possibly imagine available for use. Get it because you just want something that works well and that you're not all that interested in hacking/tweaking it. And when it's time to upgrade to the next generation you're fairly well assured everything you already have will transfer over without fuss.
The iPhone is for the masses, folks that just want something easy and sleek.
- Get the Nexus One if; You want something at very forefront of what's available in the Mobile Market (heck there's still plenty of new Android phones not even released yet that won't have as fast a CPU as the Nexus)...That you can immediately and with not all too much effort Unlock/Root/Hack/Tweak to your hearts' content, even if it results in a good amount of troubleshooting/reinstalls/rebuilds.
The Nexus One is for the tech lovers, its' got all the latest goodies and you can hack/tweak to your hearts' content.

Nexus 4 and AOSP

Hi all,
I know the N4 has enough source code in AOSP and elsewhere to be able to build an AOSP ROM, but it doesn't quite seem "official" and doesn't offer that undeniable security of "Nexus support" that many have come to know and love. Now, I know people have said it's due to the Qualcomm chip being so new that it would take time to officially work it in, and that it'll likely come around with 4.2.2. Even still, I'm paranoid (just having bought an N4 myself). Is anyone else worried about the N4's future? Or is it just buyer's paranoia?
I'd love to hear some thoughts on this!

Just paranoid, you can't build a fully working Nexus 7 ROM solely from AOSP either, thanks to Tegra.

Rusty! said:
Just paranoid, you can't build a fully working Nexus 7 ROM solely from AOSP either, thanks to Tegra.
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I figured that it was just that. But I suppose I was just seeking some reassurance haha. Between the recent articles on LG only making "as many Nexus 4's as they want," the speculations going around about the Nexus 5, and this lack of any word on AOSP support, I just got awfully scared that the Nexus 4 might be one of those devices that isn't around and supported for very long.

Speculations....Don't you love them when device is new...
Give it another month or two and everything will go back to "normal", just like with any other device.

undercover said:
Speculations....Don't you love them when device is new...
Give it another month or two and everything will go back to "normal", just like with any other device.
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Haha I know, I know. But this was a big buy for me; relatively expensive and I'm ditching VZW for it. I'm just worried that I'll regret it later on, I guess.

andoird213 said:
Haha I know, I know. But this was a big buy for me; relatively expensive and I'm ditching VZW for it. I'm just worried that I'll regret it later on, I guess.
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Learn to support yourself?
If you are relying on others to satisfy your purchase, well sooner or later you'll be in an unsupported boat.

tweaked said:
Learn to support yourself?
If you are relying on others to satisfy your purchase, well sooner or later you'll be in an unsupported boat.
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I've built AOSP for it myself, that isn't the issue; it's a more general statement. I'm not relying on anyone for satisfaction, but there's a certain plus to being in a larger community rather than in one where it's only a few who feel stuck with the device.

andoird213 said:
I've built AOSP for it myself, that isn't the issue; it's a more general statement. I'm not relying on anyone for satisfaction, but there's a certain plus to being in a larger community rather than in one where it's only a few who feel stuck with the device.
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Thats true. This is the nexus. I think you are ok there.

tweaked said:
Thats true. This is the nexus. I think you are ok there.
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Here's to that!

Nexus 5 just became less unique

I completely understand why Google did this but one thing I liked about the N5 was how it had features other phones didn't. One big one just went bye-bye. http://gigaom.com/2014/08/01/the-go...ailable-for-almost-all-modern-android-phones/

GNL has been available for other devices for a while now.
The apk has been floating around the web since the N5 was released or shortly there after.
I still think the nexus line of devices are still very unique in that they get the fastest updates and developer support is second to none!
If there is a particular developer's work you like to follow, make sure to support him/her to show them your appreciation! :thumbup:
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk 2

Agreed with giant22000. N5 is best

peach007 said:
Agreed with giant22000. N5 is best
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Don't get me wrong, I love the N5 and have been nothing but pleased with it since I got mine. I liked the fact that I had a launcher that others did not and could not have without going out of the way to get it. Now it is much easier to install for users and I would expect it to pop up more in the wild than previously seen.

pistl_pete said:
Don't get me wrong, I love the N5 and have been nothing but pleased with it since I got mine. I liked the fact that I had a launcher that others did not and could not have without going out of the way to get it. Now it is much easier to install for users and I would expect it to pop up more in the wild than previously seen.
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I felt like that with the new google camera. I thought they were just going to update it for the N5 but they ended up releasing it for a lot of phones. However, maybe that will speed up new updates for it since it's not just for one phone.

PsychDrummer said:
I felt like that with the new google camera. I thought they were just going to update it for the N5 but they ended up releasing it for a lot of phones. However, maybe that will speed up new updates for it since it's not just for one phone.
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Only the Nexus 5 can use "HDR+" (HDR isn't anywhere near the same as "HDR+"), which is closed source (and also limited to Google Camera).

This has been available for a while now. I was running it on my Galaxy Nexus back in the day and, when it hit Google Play, many GPE devices were able to install it too. Now it’s even available on a lowly iPhone (some more detail at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Now).

I'll file this thread under "slow news day."

Honestly I hardly ever used the GNL

Lethargy said:
Only the Nexus 5 can use "HDR+" (HDR isn't anywhere near the same as "HDR+"), which is closed source (and also limited to Google Camera).
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Yeah good point. I mean I'm over it now lol. I remember being a bit upset about the lens blur. Even though a lot of cameras have that feature already.

The launcher is by far the furthest thing from making the Nexus 5 what it is.

TheLastSidekick said:
The launcher is by far the furthest thing from making the Nexus 5 what it is.
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This. I actually don't like it at all. Nova all the way.

I hated the exclusive feature of GEL or GNL whatever it's called. Let it be open to all(without side loading)

Why are you upset that others have the option of the launcher ... Sorry but that seems childish

O.T. Less unique is also impossible. Something is either unique or not. There is no halfway.

You bought a phone with unlimited customization capabilities and you whine that the stock launcher for it, the phone that is the DEVELOPMENT device, for the entire Android ecosystem, has been made available to other Android devices?
First World Privilege Problems?
Kids these days...

The nexus series is always unique as it always gets the latest & the greatest android. Google had no plan of making the launcher a nexus 5 only thing. Even in the worst case, I'm sure Google would have at least supported the launcher on the older nexus phones officially. All of it was a part of Google's plan. First they saw how people received the launcher on the nexus 5. Following all the hype, they eventually made it available to all the devices out there.
Remember, Google's primary aim is to make all of its services available to all of its users. That's why they built android. They used android to reach their users & to make their services available to them easily & efficiently.

This really only applies to most of us that mod or like to customize our phones. IMO those people probably already use GOOGLE NOW Launcher anyways on whatever custom ROM they are running. I really dont see how this makes the phone less unique. Apps are not unique, the actual phone is what makes it unique than other phones on the market.
my 2 cents

What's up with development for this phone?

Now, don't get the wrong idea. I'm not asking or demanding for ROMs or what have you. More like where are the developers. Are people not digging this phone and refusing to move over to it? Or is this thing off to a really slow start?
Again, I'm not asking for ETA, ROMs, mods, anything of that sort. Just wondering what the state of the g920t is in the developer realm.
If there is anything I would LOVE an ETA for or any information on for that matter is Cyanogenmod 12 lol I'm a CM head. Ran it exclusively on my S4 so I feel very out of place being stuck on Touchwiz. Although I must admit it's grown on me and is worlds better than past versions.

H3adru5H said:
Now, don't get the wrong idea. I'm not asking or demanding for ROMs or what have you. More like where are the developers. Are people not digging this phone and refusing to move over to it? Or is this thing off to a really slow start?
Again, I'm not asking for ETA, ROMs, mods, anything of that sort. Just wondering what the state of the g920t is in the developer realm.
If there is anything I would LOVE an ETA for or any information on for that matter is Cyanogenmod 12 lol I'm a CM head. Ran it exclusively on my S4 so I feel very out of place being stuck on Touchwiz. Although I must admit it's grown on me and is worlds better than past versions.
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The development on the aosp side of things has been really quiet, probably because they don't want to get peoples' hopes up. If you bought this device expecting to get cm12, it might not be a realistic expectation

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The development on the aosp side of things has been really quiet, probably because they don't want to get peoples' hopes up. If you bought this device expecting to get cm12, it might not be a realistic expectation
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Completely understandable. And yea I did buy this phone expecting CM12. I've owned every Galaxy S phone except the 3 and 5 and had CM on every one of them. What I didn't know was the dislike for Exynos that exists among developers.
Hopefully this will change but you know what, Touchwiz is good enough to hold me over If nothing happens by the time jump comes back around I'll most likely drop this phone and jump over to the HTC One. Yes I love AOSP that much lol If it weren't for the Nexus 6 being so damn huge i'd be on that right now.

H3adru5H said:
Completely understandable. And yea I did buy this phone expecting CM12. I've owned every Galaxy S phone except the 3 and 5 and had CM on every one of them. What I didn't know was the dislike for Exynos that exists among developers.
Hopefully this will change but you know what, Touchwiz is good enough to hold me over If nothing happens by the time jump comes back around I'll most likely drop this phone and jump over to the HTC One. Yes I love AOSP that much lol If it weren't for the Nexus 6 being so damn huge i'd be on that right now.
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It's because exynos isn't open source, which gives the developers nothing to go on so they have to reverse engineer everything. It's not about hate, it's about documentation

waiting on root for 5.1.1 tw first

H3adru5H said:
Completely understandable. And yea I did buy this phone expecting CM12. I've owned every Galaxy S phone except the 3 and 5 and had CM on every one of them. What I didn't know was the dislike for Exynos that exists among developers.
Hopefully this will change but you know what, Touchwiz is good enough to hold me over If nothing happens by the time jump comes back around I'll most likely drop this phone and jump over to the HTC One. Yes I love AOSP that much lol If it weren't for the Nexus 6 being so damn huge i'd be on that right now.
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If you were surprised about the lack of Exynos dev support, then you obviously did not do your homework before buying. Yes, there have been prior Exynos devices that (eventually) got CM, but it took many months of hard work and reverse engineering. You should never EVER buy a Samsung device with the expectation of having CM on it later (especially if it has Exynos). Die hard CM fans should stick with Nexus because those devices will always be the first to get CM. If you can't stand Touchwiz or any of the TW-based custom roms that are available, then you might as well sell your S6 now while you can get the most money for it.

The new Nexus coming out in November looks promising. Suppose to come in 2 sizes by 2 different makesr, one size I'm interested in is the smaller 5.4" model. I'll keep this S6 till then and Jump when the Nexus 5 2015 is available.
roger1955

Being a CM fan too, i think this device has a lot of potential with touchwiz based rom. Many contributors are working hard to bring fixes where samsung failed to deliver!

roger1955 said:
The new Nexus coming out in November looks promising. Suppose to come in 2 sizes by 2 different makesr, one size I'm interested in is the smaller 5.4" model. I'll keep this S6 till then and Jump when the Nexus 5 2015 is available.
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Same here. I was planning to get the OnePlus Two, but not if it has SD810. I'll wait for a small Nexus.

sublimaze said:
If you were surprised about the lack of Exynos dev support, then you obviously did not do your homework before buying. Yes, there have been prior Exynos devices that (eventually) got CM, but it took many months of hard work and reverse engineering. You should never EVER buy a Samsung device with the expectation of having CM on it later (especially if it has Exynos). Die hard CM fans should stick with Nexus because those devices will always be the first to get CM. If you can't stand Touchwiz or any of the TW-based custom roms that are available, then you might as well sell your S6 now while you can get the most money for it.
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Yes I made this clear above. I've never owned an Exynos device, so I made the leap assuming it would have CM support just like every other Galaxy S I've owned. Also I am a die hard AOSP fan but I've always preferred Galaxy S features like SAMOLED and external SD so I've always gotten a GS and called it a day. As I said earlier, the Nexus 6 is just too large so that's out of the question.

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Yes I made this clear above. I've never owned an Exynos device, so I made the leap assuming it would have CM support just like every other Galaxy S I've owned. Also I am a die hard AOSP fan but I've always preferred Galaxy S features like SAMOLED and external SD so I've always gotten a GS and called it a day. As I said earlier, the Nexus 6 is just too large so that's out of the question.
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Get the g4.
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ambervals6 said:
Get the g4.
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NO. I despise LG. I used to own a G2x. Never trusted LG after that mess.

H3adru5H said:
NO. I despise LG. I used to own a G2x. Never trusted LG after that mess.
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I can understand your hesitation after the G2x but LG has come a long way. They still have a horrid UI but that's why we have custom ROMs. They still have snapdragon, as well. Not to mention some amazing hardware. Right up there with any other manufacturer (yes even considering their plastic back version...who doesn't use a case anyway) That all being said...I'm still getting the next Nexus lol LG and Sammy have some incredible features that aren't available in CM but stock Android is just too smooth

ambervals6 said:
Get the g4.
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Locked bootloader.

ambervals6 said:
Get the g4.
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masri1987 said:
Locked bootloader.
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Also unless something changed there isn't a "safe" way to root the g4.

ThePagel said:
Also unless something changed there isn't a "safe" way to root the g4.
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The only change is LG released unlock bootloader tool for int'l non-carrier versions only.
So given that, i think we are on the best option (and i'm saying that coming from a Note 4)

I think there are Fans who just like CM or AOSP because of the look and feel aspect of stock. I can understand, but as stated in a number of statements here, there are some awesome aspects and hardware features with stock TW that will indeed be lost CM or AOSP - Big example are camara features to name one.
Now if you follow the theme section you will see there is a way to get stock material look - now mix it with Nova launcher you are GOLDEN..it will hold me over...

Do you expect there to be a thriving rom scene for the Note 9?

Current S8 user thinking about upgrading to an Exynos Note 9. Having looked at the Note 8 forums it looks like there is very limited development going on there. Do you guys expect things to improve for the new note? I have no interest in android unless there is a decent custom rom I can run!

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you have no interest in Android unless you can ROM it, you must love iOS and all of it's customization lol.

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Current S8 user thinking about upgrading to an Exynos Note 9. Having looked at the Note 8 forums it looks like there is very limited development going on there. Do you guys expect things to improve for the new note? I have no interest in android unless there is a decent custom rom I can run!
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Development is occurring less for these types of device for many reasons, but mainly locked bootloader's, price, not really a great need for root anymore. Of course there are folks that need root and use it.
I would love to see a stripped down TouchWiz ROM for the US version that looks like AOSP as much as possible. It'll never happen though sadly.

Exynos yes a few probably
Snapdragon no, nothing, nada

This doesn't even make sense, lol
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I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you have no interest in Android unless you can ROM it, you must love iOS and all of it's customization lol.
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Yes, only exynos versions. As for the Note 8, currently there are a few roms out there.

slaydog said:
This doesn't even make sense, lol
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"I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.

You know what? I apologize. I guess I didn't read the last sentence in his statement... I thought you were merely inferring his attitude until I went back and reread.
Anyway, carry on...
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Reading comprehension is your strong point, I see. "I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
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You know what? I apologize. I guess I didn't read the last sentence in his statement... I thought you were merely inferring his attitude until I went back and reread.
Anyway, carry on...
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.

No worries. We've both been on XDA for a long time I see, so I know it happens... I'll just try to make sure I read a little closer before replying, LOL
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
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Semantics said:
"I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
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It was a poor choice of words, instead of saying I have no interest in android if there are no custom roms, I meant to say I have no interest in buying a new phone if I cant custom rom it. Getting an ios device is not even an option :laugh:.

TEWWY said:
It was a poor choice of words, instead of saying I have no interest in android if there are no custom roms, I meant to say I have no interest in buying a new phone if I cant custom rom it. Getting an ios device is not even an option :laugh:.
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That's completely understandable.

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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
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No worries. We've both been on XDA for a long time I see, so I know it happens... I'll just try to make sure I read a little closer before replying, LOL
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You both are douche faces! ?
Just kidding... Those were good reads, lol. ??

bamfsig45 said:
Exynos yes a few probably
Snapdragon no, nothing, nada
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They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.

swaze said:
They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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Then they are full of **** lol.
Snapdragon s9 has nothing, no root nada and thats been since April.
Each year security get tighter, and they kill whatever workaround was found before. Only going to get harder not easier.
Eirher buy exynos or a HK snapdragon if you want root, dont rely on workarounds these days
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They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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I think they say everytime a Samsung US Snapdragon phone is released, a good Dev disappears lol

I was suprised to see the rom forum was kind of barren compared to when I had my Note 4 and other devices. But that was before I had the phone in hand. Now that I see how easy it is to do most things that used to be much easier with root, it isn't too shocking that it's a little dead over there.

The phone has treble support
you can even get android P on it