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Water resistant flaps

So I've had my XZ for a week now, I'm on my 2nd one which I had exchanged. I've noticed on this one the flap that covers the charging port doesn't press down completely! If I press down on it there seems to be a slight movement, like 0.5mm of give, not much but I'm worried if I decide to put it into water would it survive?
Does anyone else have this problem, or am I being really nit picky! My first one shut completely flush.
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maverick1103 said:
So I've had my XZ for a week now, I'm on my 2nd one which I had exchanged. I've noticed on this one the flap that covers the charging port doesn't press down completely! If I press down on it there seems to be a slight movement, like 0.5mm of give, not much but I'm worried if I decide to put it into water would it survive?
Does anyone else have this problem, or am I being really nit picky! My first one shut completely flush.
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I've noticed that as well, as long as you press in the end of the flap nearest the top of the phone first, I find it holds the cover in more securely.

CinqUK said:
I've noticed that as well, as long as you press in the end of the flap nearest the top of the phone first, I find it holds the cover in more securely.
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Thanks for checking, I've tried that but it desn't help on mine

i have no problem with it!
it keeps in its port properly B

Mine sit tightly. Maybe ask Sony about it as they might be faulty. If they move - it means they don't sit there properly and might leak ( i think )

x102x96x said:
i have no problem with it!
it keeps in its port properly B
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Akiainavas said:
Mine sit tightly. Maybe ask Sony about it as they might be faulty. If they move - it means they don't sit there properly and might leak ( i think )
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Mine does sit tight, it's just its slightly raised and does move if I push it in more, but like 0.5mm.
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How tough are these flaps? and what if one was to come off?
I ask because the other morning, got up late out of bed, picked up my XZ and pulled charger cable out also pulling on the flap, with it being dark and couldn't see properly, I thought i'd pull the flap off as that's what it felt like. Thankfully I never, but scared me a little

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How tough are these flaps? and what if one was to come off?
I ask because the other morning, got up late out of bed, picked up my XZ and pulled charger cable out also pulling on the flap, with it being dark and couldn't see properly, I thought i'd pull the flap off as that's what it felt like. Thankfully I never, but scared me a little
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I haven't a clue, if one came off I wonder if Sony would fix it under warranty...
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Better replace it before its too late. Mine is ok and tested it.
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[Q]speaker problem after using water!!!??

hey guys
i have got a problem with my phones's speaker... the first time i went to the pool with the phone i used just 10 seconds under the water to capture movie, after i got the phone out i couldnt hear anything after while like 3 or 4 hrs it became normal (tried sucking it -.- ) but the quality became shi*ty then after one week the phone got heated like it was burning after playing some games so i decided to put it under water for a second i also covered the speaker with my thumb but i guess it didnt work and again water went inside and now after two days the speakers quality is as bad as possible i cant understand anything from songs and its so low...
I just wanted to ask did u get the any problems like this ?
how can i solve it ? should i use the warranty to change the speakers? its a waterproof phone right they have to change it right?

So when u sucked it, that's when you couldn't understand the music? If so, you may possibly damaged the speaker.
Maybe try blowing it instead this time and maybe dry with a hair dryer??
Hope you get it sorted
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im not sure if that was sarcastic or not... but anyway, i tried them before and they made to become louder but the quality is still bad

*boy*racer* said:
So when u sucked it, that's when you couldn't understand the music? If so, you may possibly damaged the speaker.
Maybe try blowing it instead this time and maybe dry with a hair dryer??
Hope you get it sorted
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do not blow dry it with anything, it will damage the phone, especially the melting the glue.
just let it sit and it will dry itself.

*boy*racer* said:
So when u sucked it, that's when you couldn't understand the music? If so, you may possibly damaged the speaker.
Maybe try blowing it instead this time and maybe dry with a hair dryer??
Hope you get it sorted
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Awesome.
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saeid.gh99 said:
im not sure if that was sarcastic or not... but anyway, i tried them before and they made to become louder but the quality is still bad
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No mate, Wasn't being sarcastic. Sorry if it sounded it.
LitoNi said:
do not blow dry it with anything, it will damage the phone, especially the melting the glue.
just let it sit and it will dry itself.
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I got (well the missus) a hair dryer with a cool setting, also I had it quite far away from the phone. (couldn't wait to dry out naturally) lol.
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LitoNi said:
do not blow dry it with anything, it will damage the phone, especially the melting the glue.
just let it sit and it will dry itself.
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i did blow it okay im gonna just let it dry by itself but i dont think its gonna work its 3 days now

saeid.gh99 said:
i did blow it okay im gonna just let it dry by itself but i dont think its gonna work its 3 days now
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3 days? wow....
how deep did you go into the pool?
IP57 = can be immersed in water up to 1m for 30 minutes without harmful quality of water ingress occurring.

LitoNi said:
3 days? wow....
how deep did you go into the pool?
IP57 = can be immersed in water up to 1m for 30 minutes without harmful quality of water ingress occurring.
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not even 30cm i just shoved it in water for 10 scs thats it

If quality is bad, as opposed to just volume, you may have punctured the speaker membrane by sucking on it. If that's the case, you're screwed. Don't put it in water again until you know otherwise.
Also, I'd be careful putting it in water when it's hot, I've heard people have had the glass shatter by warming/cooling it too quickly, it's no different to any other glass, after all.
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saeid.gh99 said:
not even 30cm i just shoved it in water for 10 scs thats it
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might be a faulty one.
if you can take it back to the shop and get a new one then do it. Dont even bother telling them that you blew it with whatever.

LitoNi said:
might be a faulty one.
if you can take it back to the shop and get a new one then do it. Dont even bother telling them that you blew it with whatever.
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yeah i guess im gonna take to the shop for warranty... thanks everyone

The usb cover problem

I bought Xperia zr a few days back...I think there is a problem with the usb cover...it just comes out automatically sometimes....does anyone else have this problem ??
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You mean the back panel? If Yes then your panel clamps might be damaged

Nope......m talking abt the flap
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The flaps work fine for me about 1 month usage.
But I do see a lot of people complaining about flaps loose in the forum.

CressKH said:
The flaps work fine for me about 1 month usage.
But I do see a lot of people complaining about flaps loose in the forum.
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Some people speak about the same symptom to the flaps wearing out: they start to open by themselves. Mine did that exactly 3 minutes after I did a water test on it. It started to come out by itself but it did that only once. I now have the charging dock so I don't open mine anymore. The key question is: can these flaps be replaced? The Xperia Z users can buy spare flaps on a website but to this date nobody has actually replaced his/her flap so we don't know how exactly it can be done.

me too
my flaps are loose too with barely 1 month. Ive been looking for answers to this for about more than a week and found nothing so far other that ''send it to a sony service center'' -_- this is ridiculous! cant even put it underwater anymore! this is the last time sony receives a single dolar from me

Open the flap and clean the rim of the opening where the usb connection is and the rubber plug on flap. They will get oil and grime in there making it impossible to stay closed. It works for me. Just keep it clean and you will be fine.

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SocalTeknique said:
Open the flap and clean the rim of the opening where the usb connection is and the rubber plug on flap. They will get oil and grime in there making it impossible to stay closed. It works for me. Just keep it clean and you will be fine.
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How exactly did you clean this? All my attemps to do it fail miserably

zytres said:
How exactly did you clean this? All my attemps to do it fail miserably
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I usually wash my hands and use the damp towel to clean it. Also push the little clips outward gently.
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No problems for me for month and a half now and im charging and listening music often. no water problems tho

I charge daily so have to open the flaps and till now, not a single issue.

effective said:
No problems for me for month and a half now and im charging and listening music often. no water problems tho
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Same here. But I'm gentle with my flaps. I ordered a third party dock that supposedly charges without taking my cover off so I won't stress out the flaps
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SocalTeknique said:
I ordered a third party dock that supposedly charges without taking my cover off so I won't stress out the flaps
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Which one would that be? Thanks
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dsa88 said:
Which one would that be? Thanks
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Here you go.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321201398269
I should be receiving it soon and I'll post a mini review.
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OK now my little cover is really getting on my nerves It doesn't want to stay put anymore!!!!! Im about to rip it off! Screw waterproofness and screew Sony's crappy quality control!
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Dust under screen.

Sorry if this has been asked but im getting dust going beneath my screen and I need to wipe it. Is there any safe way to do this? And I can't really find any disassembly vids. Please help thanks.

zakkkkk said:
Sorry if this has been asked but im getting dust going beneath my screen and I need to wipe it. Is there any safe way to do this? And I can't really find any disassembly vids. Please help thanks.
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Unfortunately today I also noticed small "pixels" of dust under my screen too. I do not think there is a way to clean it without opening the device. We should probably find a way to prevent that..

So still no one knows how to open the screen safely. Theres two star shaped screws on either side of the phone on the bezel, would that help to remove screen or am I going to risk breaking something? Please help.

bro if u take my advice dont do it yourself. I know how difficult it is to ignore it when u notice it.
By if u do it ur self u may put more of it then taking it out.
So if u really want it then take it to a preoffesional.

Sony repair quoted me 40 pounds. Id rather do it myself.

My rear camera totally scratch,when I hv take pictrue, photo blur any buddy suggests me.wat I di
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Sanjay rao said:
My rear camera totally scratch,when I hv take pictrue, photo blur any buddy suggests me.wat I di
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I hv got the same problem
1 guy suggested me to clean it with toothpaste aplied on earbud but it didnt help because i have got lotsa scratches
Maybe you can try that

I m also try this.no improvement.
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Do I have to disassemble the whole phone from the back just to get to the front glass or is there an easier way?

Yes and as was previously suggested don't do it yourself you will just ruin the device of you are not an electronics engineer to put it back together as you found it. Its a tough job to reverse engineer electronic devices even those who are easily accessible imagine doing the same thing to your compact phone
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zakkkkk said:
Sorry if this has been asked but im getting dust going beneath my screen and I need to wipe it. Is there any safe way to do this? And I can't really find any disassembly vids. Please help thanks.
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The only way would be to disassemble the phone. The front digitiser is not glued to the LCD on this model as it is with other phones so it's not as hard as it may seem to get the dust out. Although you will need to completely disassemble the phone to get to the dust.
Disassembly instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518141
I have these PDF's downloaded so let me know if you need.

Braxley1 said:
The only way would be to disassemble the phone. The front digitiser is not glued to the LCD on this model as it is with other phones so it's not as hard as it may seem to get the dust out. Although you will need to completely disassemble the phone to get to the dust.
Disassembly instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518141
I have these PDF's downloaded so let me know if you need.
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Will be needing the pdfs

dipesh1502 said:
Will be needing the pdfs
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PM me an email to send to.

this may sound stupid but if you have a bike pump or air compressor use it to blow the dust out trough the micro usb port it may work and no disassembly required

Does anybody know if sony can clean the dust and does it come under the warranty?

zakkkkk said:
Does anybody know if sony can clean the dust and does it come under the warranty?
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+1
My phone is a few more months under the warranty....

Gara91 said:
+1
My phone is a few more months under the warranty....
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zakkkkk said:
Does anybody know if sony can clean the dust and does it come under the warranty?
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In India they clean it under warranty, I got my screen dust free once from Sony center but after few months at present dust is back and now they are charging INR 350 (6$) for cleaning.

creative21 said:
In India they clean it under warranty, I got my screen dust free once from Sony center but after few months at present dust is back and now they are charging INR 350 (6$) for cleaning.
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Hmm, there is no point if the dust will come again... Do you know how do they clean it?

Gara91 said:
Hmm, there is no point if the dust will come again... Do you know how do they clean it?
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No, idk. I think that guy said to me that he opened whole phone. And now there is more dust then before it was. So opening phone will worse the case

creative21 said:
No, idk
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Ok, thanks... Will see what to do... But it's very ugly, and i don't know how dust can even get between glass and lcd... :-B

Still waterproof?

Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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Man I really don't know.. I don't think you'll face issues even trying to take it underwater, but still if you don't know whether the film cracked too you should try to replace it.. If the asf is ok, then you should be ok bro....
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No....
A crack means no longer airtight.

jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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I...wouldn't try it. I think your phone just became "oh #*&$" accident water proof. ie. if you drop it in the neighbors pool or something on accident you're probably fine, but I wouldn't put the "1.5 meters/30 minutes" part to the test anytime soon.
This also probably compromises any warranty given on the water proofness. If they see that it has a cracked back they could easily use that as an excuse not to repair it under warranty claim.

Just like i thought guys, but i think its still waterproof, because the film helps glass keep in his place, and the edges of the glass is still glued. That crack is like hair, really small. Ill try to take a picture in the evening, because its morningright now.
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That white spot is from fingers, try to see that little line, i circle it
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I really cant see that line without sun shine, because its really small.
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Why ask us at all then if you aren't going to heed our advice anyway?
You sound like you have your mind made up, so what was the point of this thread?

Water will find it's way. If this crack is all trought, it WILL find it's way.

I jus want your opinion guys
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I jus want your opinion guys
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.

crixley said:
Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Really thanks! You really answered my question!
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')

ruggyboss said:
I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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The film could have scratches or little tears in it itself...
Plus who is to say that the film isn't slightly lifted.
You are betting on a lot on a very thin layer of plastic.
Is it worth the price of a new phone?

It's like when you put beers in a cooler. Wait for the ice to melt and you'll see all the stickers on the beer bootle lift up and float on the water.
Simple physics, water will find the smallest whole, smallest gap, smalest opening and make it trough. That's the reason not all devices are IP rated, most of them don't even bother to manufacture something "tight" enough to get a rating, and even if they do, it's more likely a IPX7, not IPX8 like Xperia's.
Water is strong, and it will find its way.

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/discover-more/water-and-dust-resistance/ look guys, Sony xperia z1 ip58
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Yeah guys you're probably right.. The risk is not worth it

As already mentioned here.
It is not worth the risk, you get water in the phone and no warranty, because there is damage on the phone that was not there when you received the phone.
If a phone goes in that has water damage. They clean all the flaps to ensure no debris, then close them, then test the phone to ensure that the phone is watertight at 1.5m for about 30 minutes.
Water in phone = warranty, no water in phone = no warranty. It would be determined that water in the phone had to be lack of care from the user, not keeping flaps clean, closing them properly or even leaving them open.
Further to this, I am certain they would just say the crack in the glass was the issue, again deemed to be user negligence.

I've faced this problem before. I drop my phone on 3 feet high, and crack my front tempered glass protector. And guess what? My phone dead when I submerged it underwater for less than 30s. And yes, water going inside.

if you got air tester machine u lucky but i recommend you bring to sony center
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