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Only thing it is holding me back because it isn't popular phone so I might don't have much of support or any help for rooting, hardware issue or anything like that. I could just save $150 and go for HTC Desire, but I like 8mpx, front camera and the screen on HTC Incredible S. I like HTC Desire because it is quite popular and it has a lot of support, but Incredible S sounds and look much cooler.
Also excuse me for posting in wrong section, I couldn't find a correct section for general discussion of android phone (hardware).
EDIT: I posted this thread in both section Desire and Incredible S for unbiased opinion.
Of course it's a good idea, because that's exactly what i just did
The screens better on the IS, just search on youtube. Better contrast and colour rendition.
Got nothing against the size of the HD, i might sell and buy a Sensation when released.
If you're on about the original Desire, it just now looks so outdated IMO.
I wouldn't consider Desire s, heard one to many nightmare stories of wifi dropouts.
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Of course it's a good idea, because that's exactly what i just did
The screens better on the IS, just search on youtube. Better contrast and colour rendition.
Got nothing against the size of the HD, i might sell and buy a Sensation when released.
If you're on about the original Desire, it just now looks so outdated IMO.
I wouldn't consider Desire s, heard one to many nightmare stories of wifi dropouts.
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Can you root it and put a custom ROM? If so, does the guide exist?
if you searched further than your nose long is, u had the answer on that
Really depends on what you want to do with the phone. The screen display is a lot better than desire. If you just wanna a phone to use, IS is the choice. If you are a fun of installing custom ROMs, desire is probably a better choice. As far as I know, software rooting is not available yet for IS.
if you are comparing stock to stock...
the major advantage of having an IS is the internal memory... on a fresh stock rom...
Desire would have around 147MB for you to use for all your apps.. and you have to spare 30MB for OTA updates purpose...
if you have IS you have 1.07GB on a fresh rom... so many apps you can install without any worries
I switched last week from Desire to an IS.
I think it's a relief.
The screen is much better, it's a bit faster than the Desire.
Screensize is perfect for my pockets. Sound is pretty good.
Enough space for installing apps.
Also the touch buttons are cool.
Still I don't understand why this phone isn't that populair.
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I switched last week from Desire to an IS.
I think it's a relief.
The screen is much better, it's a bit faster than the Desire.
Screensize is perfect for my pockets. Sound is pretty good.
Enough space for installing apps.
Also the touch buttons are cool.
Still I don't understand why this phone isn't that populair.
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Becoz most people are keen on getting a dual core phone and they turn blind to see the features of the single core phones!
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Becoz most people are keen on getting a dual core phone and they turn blind to see the features of the single core phones!
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At first I was looking at a dual core as well.
But after all I thought: what is the real benefit at the moment?
I mean, I don't call that much a month, use internet a lot, play some simple games, listen to music and that's it.
My Desire could handle all those things very good.
I must say that I'm very happy with my IS and I'm glad I didn't wait for a dual core.
Bear in mind the Desire has some issues with multi-touch, and battery life isn't particularly good. It is readily rootable however, while some variants of the Incredible S are not.
My friend had a Desire nd i have an IS ... Go for the IS no doubt.. so fat the issues i ve seen in multi touch . battery life, screen , speed ( cause of RAM ) .. IS wins hands down
Hi guys,
Using a Nexus S right now and a buddy is offering me his unlocked IS. I am very tempted because of the faster processor and more memory but the locked bootloader and lack of developer support (compared to other phones) is becoming a big turn off. Value wise, the IS or even the DHD is a sure bet but again, support is key to a successful phone and it doesn't get better than google's Nexus family.
What do you think?
But I'm seeing a lot of custom roms, are they fully functional and bug free? As good as the ones on the HD forums?
Remember, this is a phone released in March/April! Developer support will grow significantly once AlphaRevX has released the public beta for S-OFF, letting you put custom roms onto the IS.
To note, it's more of the question of whether you want to use Sense UI for the time being or be open to use other roms.
In terms of hardware, its similar - asside from the cameras, 8.0 and 1.3 Megapixels respectively.
You can't go wrong if its FREE, however its solely up to you.
I need some help deciding lol
Someone's offering me a desire hd with an otterbox case and the other guy an IS. Same price and all.
Are the IS roms stable, fast and as good as the ones on the HD?
I've never been this undecided! )
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Someone's offering me a desire hd with an otterbox case and the other guy an IS. Same price and all.
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I don't root my phone nor put custom rom on it, so cannot comment on rom. But between DHD and IS, I came from DHD, because of the size, screen quality, battery life, weight, no ffc, and other stuff, I sold it and bought IS which IMO is the best HTC single core phone.
Regarding rootability, I don't mind too much but I do believe time will solve all the problem, there will be always ways to make things happened.
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But between DHD and IS, I came from DHD, because of the screen quality
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That.
The S-LCD in the Incredible S is probably one of the best displays i've ever seen on a mobile handset (aside from S-AMOLED displays). The viewing angles are spectacular, no wash out whatsoever unless it's a really extreme angle. AND the colours are really vivid.
Despite the DHD having a 4.3" display vs a 4.0" display, the IS beats it hands down in the display department
yeah i have used DHD and IS and IS beats DHD by a mile
Both phones are similar from a spec standpoint. I think the Incredible S feels better in the hand. Nexus S felt cheap to me. Nexus S will get updates first but once the Incredible S is rooted there will be a custom rom for any updates the Nexus S gets in the future.
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Hi guys,
Using a Nexus S right now and a buddy is offering me his unlocked IS. I am very tempted because of the faster processor and more memory but the locked bootloader and lack of developer support (compared to other phones) is becoming a big turn off. Value wise, the IS or even the DHD is a sure bet but again, support is key to a successful phone and it doesn't get better than google's Nexus family.
What do you think?
But I'm seeing a lot of custom roms, are they fully functional and bug free? As good as the ones on the HD forums?
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My IS is rooted and Mike1986 Rom is 100% working and stable, never had a single force close. Speed is instant, no delays anywhere.
I have this same dilemma but it's the opposite. I have the Incredible S. Sigh.
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My phone is very smooth w/o root.... Gingerbread...... Everything is perfect and I don't feel the need for root.... I tried both nexus s and IS personally I felt sense more productive in day to day work and more beautiful too.... My battery lasts a day easily and display is on par with super amoled.... There are some unique features of sense that I like .... Say for example... Flip to silent... Volume boost when in pocket....and volume reduce when u lift the phone.... These make the phone more useful.... Plus the build quality is better than Samsung.... Anytime... And design is unique... All these make it desirable.....
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Your friends IS may even have an unlocked bootloader right now. I've heard the GPS chip in nexus s is crap aswell. It was a dilemma for me too as I was trying to choose between the same phones. I ultimately went for this one though and haven't regretted it at all. One thing I would have liked in theory though is the contactless payment chip as I think McDonald's offer that now
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i have both: Inspire 4G (US version of the Desire HD) and a factory s-off'd Bell Incredible S. i've rooted both and am using sense 3.0 roms on both. ( lights at bottom aren't working yet with Sense 3.0 on the Inc S. ) the Inc S display is better than my Inspire and it's easier to carry. also seems to be a little faster than my Inspire, but not enough to sway me away from the Inspire. the smaller screen can be an issue for some (but not me); yes (to me) .3 inches makes a difference with some things like font size in email. not a show stopper though.
bottom line: i don't think you can go wrong with either one. i use the Inc S for work and the Inspire for "play".
Hi Cortez,
I have Inc S for playing, including NON-succesfully obtain s-off by alpharevx ;p my work is rely on HD2, larger screen give me comfort in reading email and sms. I do like sense very much due to the keyboard layout with cursor up-dwon, right-left keys, it make not neccessary to touch text area when typing email/sms. Plain GB Rom (Nexus for example) is fast, but sense give us very good Mail Client. Easier to read/send email (even gmail) on sense mail client rather than by default gmail apps on the default ROM. I tried to put sense keyboard into plain android rom, but No Lucks. since Im not dev or rom chef. I cook rom for fun and for personal use, not for public Is there any GB rom based on plain (nexus) with sense keyboard and mail client (?) sense is another layer on the plain android rom and htc cook very nice and well polished.
Hi Cortez,
I have Inc S for playing, including NON-succesfully obtain s-off by alpharevx ;p my work is rely on HD2, larger screen give me comfort in reading email and sms. I do like sense very much due to the keyboard layout with cursor up-dwon, right-left keys, it make not neccessary to touch text area when typing email/sms. Plain GB Rom (Nexus for example) is fast, but sense give us very good Mail Client. Easier to read/send email (even gmail) on sense mail client rather than by default gmail apps on the default ROM. I tried to put sense keyboard into plain android rom, but No Lucks. since Im not dev or rom chef. I cook rom for fun and for personal use, not for public Is there any GB rom based on plain (nexus) with sense keyboard and mail client (?) sense is another layer on the plain android rom and htc cook very nice and well polished.
And just how happy were the Samsung people? Click here...
I can get the devs "sense" of achievement but the hundreds of followers comments of yipeeeeeee, and awesome... etc etc etc ... Why not just buy an HTC?
I am near the end of my 3 month trial of a Nexus S and it has lasted pricisely 2 weeks, its up for sale. I just do not like it. Its featureless and slow. My Desire HD -using rcmix runny- is so much smoother and quicker to the touch I just don't get how they done so well. On Saturdy, else before, I will pickup my Evo 3d dual core and go again -after 4 years- with htc. At $330 (£229 in Asda UK), I just can't say no.
I know there are lots of fans out there for Samsung, but what do you like about it?
Me on Nexus S. Buttons, wkd for reboots to recovery when had to rip battery out. Nice and easy. Like the longer thinner screen too. And Amoled is very good. That is it.
I think you're confusing 'Samsung' with Vanilla Android. What you experienced with the Nexus S isn't your normal Samsung experience. The Nexus phones are pure, unadulterated Android. They may seem plain to some but they're designed to be. They are developers phones. They're easy to mod, to theme and easy to use.
If i bought a Nexus S i would have MIUI on it in a heartbeat personally, but that's the whole point of what we do here. Buy a phone you like and have it your way. Vanilla, Sense, MIUI, iphone themed... whatever. I can understand wanting a Nexus S and putting Sense on it, if you're a fan of both!
Some people buy HTC but get rid of Sense as quickly as humanly possible. Different strokes for different folks.
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I think you're confusing 'Samsung' with Vanilla Android. What you experienced with the Nexus S isn't your normal Samsung experience. The Nexus phones are pure, unadulterated Android. They may seem plain to some but they're designed to be. They are developers phones. They're easy to mod, to theme and easy to use.
If i bought a Nexus S i would have MIUI on it in a heartbeat personally, but that's the whole point of what we do here. Buy a phone you like and have it your way. Vanilla, Sense, MIUI, iphone themed... whatever. I can understand wanting a Nexus S and putting Sense on it, if you're a fan of both!
Some people buy HTC but get rid of Sense as quickly as humanly possible. Different strokes for different folks.
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Another example of Samsung letting someone else do all the work. MIUI -for me- is boring, too much concentration on being an iphone rather than itself. I used to use first MIUI roms when it took weeks to get a translation out of Shen. It might be time to try it again.
I am one of the ones that strips Sense immediately. The point was that my HD runs faster and smoother with sense that the NS runs without it at all. I tried many roms and the lag is terrible, as was the stock rom. Now performance with the Oxygen or absolution roms... That is special. I just think the build quality is better. I guess I am disappointed with no singing OR dancing.
Orb3000, if you are around please explain what it is about HTC that we love so much.
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Another example of Samsung letting someone else do all the work. .
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lolwut?! I don't think you understood, They're phones 'promoted' by google, with clean android, it's how they're meant to be, in no way is that Samsung letting someone else do all the work?! What's all the work?! All UI's from manafacture's are for android, which is what the Nexus S has, just not skined, the Nexus One, that didn't have any custom UI, does that mean HTC is letting someone else do all the work. And finally, by another.. What else have they done?
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Dude, I used to love Sense. I owned an HTC Desire, and even Sense 2.1 lagged on it.
Then, I realized, Sense sucks. It's heavy, really bloated and makes Android look like sh!t! Yes, even on Gingerbread. It's really bad. I agree, it does have some cool features, like the People app on Sense is unmatched, but, still, I prefer stock Android waaaaaay better.
Now, I have a Nexus S. And I absolutely love it. Why aren't you using ICS? It's much faster than Gingerbread. And much much better. I love my Nexus S and will never change it with an HTC.
And the reason that people buy Samsung, is that it has better hardware than HTC. Just look at SGS II or SG Note. They eat Sensation and Rezound for breakfast.
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Not sure dude. I think that Samsung were cute using the Tegra 2 for those models and you will see a big swing this year when htc have the t3 inside. In bothe phone and tablet. The actual feel of an htc in your hand is much better i reckon. The nexus s and sg2 seem plasticy.
I have the cm9 kali ics on now.It is the only one of all the ICS's I can install and not spend 1hr putting things right on. its ok, but nothing like as quick as my DHD with sense on and loaded with apps, but that's on GB.
Ah well. I'm not sure what I expected from it really. The fact that i do mess with my own roms and knew what I would makes me the stupid one. If ur happy ur happy. I just wanted something different.
and the lord saw that it was a bloated resource hogging abomination and cast it into the lake of fire...
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lolwut?! I don't think you understood, They're phones 'promoted' by google, with clean android, it's how they're meant to be, in no way is that Samsung letting someone else do all the work?! What's all the work?! All UI's from manafacture's are for android, which is what the Nexus S has, just not skined, the Nexus One, that didn't have any custom UI, does that mean HTC is letting someone else do all the work. And finally, by another.. What else have they done?
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Im one of those people that stripped sense out as much as possible. Last years HTC phones were a disappointmet, I can't stand those 16:9 dimensions. Hopefully this year they make a decent phone with a 4:5 and 4.5" screen. Until then it'll be Samsungs.
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Dude, I used to love Sense. I owned an HTC Desire, and even Sense 2.1 lagged on it.
Then, I realized, Sense sucks. It's heavy, really bloated and makes Android look like sh!t! Yes, even on Gingerbread. It's really bad. I agree, it does have some cool features, like the People app on Sense is unmatched, but, still, I prefer stock Android waaaaaay better.
Now, I have a Nexus S. And I absolutely love it. Why aren't you using ICS? It's much faster than Gingerbread. And much much better. I love my Nexus S and will never change it with an HTC.
And the reason that people buy Samsung, is that it has better hardware than HTC. Just look at SGS II or SG Note. They eat Sensation and Rezound for breakfast.
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I have to totally disagree with you there old bean
Sense is lovely, it's so smooth and logical. I find it usable where as I find plain android horrible so would never have a nexus.
As for hardware, yes the SGS II screen is nice, but the phone feels really cheap and brittle to me, I'd be worried about sitting down and snapping it. I don't have such issues with the sensation and prefer the higher resolution screen.
It's one of the huge advantages Android has over other phone OSs, there's so much variety and customisation available pretty much everyone's desires can be met.
Kind of funny but I've been thinking about this. 4.2 is almost an update designed to make bare bones aosp android better, and does almost nothing for a phone with a manufacturer skin. 4.1 would be great on this phone with project butter, better notifications, and Google now, but here's the rundown on 4.2 features:
Better camera app: sense 3.6 already has a nicer one than aosp. No photosphere but its kinda of a gimmick "look what my phone can do" feature anyway. The stock camera app has always sucked until 4.2 and the update finally brings it up to par with custom ui's, but does nothing for us.
Improved lockscreen with widget support : sense pretty much has the best lockscreen with shortcut support and notification widgets that appear through sense apps. Custom widget support would be nice but aosp still doesn't have shortcut support.
Gesture typing: yep, we got it on the stock "touch input" keyboard. next
Quick settings : yep sense has that too
Tv out support : while we don't have miracast support, about every htc device post evo 4G has either an hdmi port or mhl support. I'm sure the vivid is no different, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Better alarm clock app : the aosp alarm clock app has always been an after thought until 4.2,however ui's like sense and touchwiz have always had really nice alarm clock apps and the 4.2 app really just brings stock aosp up to par with the ui's
User profiles: this feature is tablet only and disabled on the phones so the vivid wouldn't get it anyway.
I think that's about it. So there you have it! I really kind of believe 4.2 is catered to nexus devices, and I honestly could see a lot of manufacturers passing on this as if they do update, then it'll be little more than a version number change. If you're in the market for a non nexus phone and it has 4.1, then your already up to date.
Just something I thought about. Thoughts?
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And before anyone calls me out, I got a nexus 7, so I use 4.2 on a daily basis, so I'm not just posting on stuff I've read lol.
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I have a nexus 7 also and personally I'd like to see 4.2 on the vivid because I HATE sense.... Didn't realize how much I didn't like it until I played with pure android. But I'm guessing that if we can't get CM10 to work on this phone, there'd be no reason to worry about 4.2 or not!
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Yeah I'm not to keen on sense either, thought it was awesome until I got a phone with it and had to use it every day. If by some Longshot we get jellybean, I hope it comes with Sense 4+ and not the underwhelming sense 3.6 that's on this phone now. From what I've seen sense 4 is world's ahead of what we have.
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Once cm10 is completed bring 4.2 will be easy as there isn't much difference between 4.1.2 and 4.3 when it comes to making things work
Anyways I love the 4.2 camera...and I think I read others here on the vivid are able to use it on ICS....
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Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Lol I feel the same...but since I have the phone and at least somewhat knowledge on this stuff I figured I might as well try my best...that being said I hate HTC and will never get another one...this vivid ruined it for me. Like you say, stock wise this phone is great...but that's it. Once you go into the world of custom ROMs this phone takes a major dive to nowhere :/
And honestly...ialthough I will keep trying I don't think I'll personally ever figure out the ril/mic issue...but since we got h8rift now I think we may stand a fighting chance...he is a real dev, I'm just a contributor...hence our titles
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Yeah they can make some beautiful looking phones with excellent build quality but sense hasn't aged well and every post sensation device has been a lot less developer friendly. I almost think they feel insulted that anyone wouldn't want to use sense and feel like their phones are perfect already.
But the one x, one x+, and DROID DNA are all gorgeous looking. Hell really so is our phone. Make no mistake their phones are awesome its just the software that blows.
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I'm planning to come to 4X section. I'm from Sensation XE.
Is there any comments about this phone for me? I checked sites like gsmarena that this phone is actually quite on par with Nexus 4.(apart from official Android support).
And I heard from the salesperson that this device is quite faulty by itself, but I need to make sure if its Hardware or Software.
Audio wise, loudspeaker is just for ringtone and notification and its good enough. Altho I use HTC I dont use beats, I rely on CM DSP Manager, so I think its good enough right?
Call reboots, sudden softbrick or stuff like these, any comments?
(PS: I will root every bloody Android I see in sight, even if its the first purchase day, so if Devs here are great(although not much I looked) I'm more than happy coming here, and in time maybe build my own rom.
1.5 quad core(I'd most likely underclock till 1.0)
1GB Ram
16gb rom.
Should be able to last for a year or so dont you think?
Do leave a reply and your opinion. PM-ing me if you have more sensitive opinion, I'm open. (I'm not going to Nexus 4 because it lacks expansion memory slot, as all Nexus devices are)