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Water damage?

Hi, I dunked my phone in a sink a few days ago I tried to dry it out and it wouldn't boot, even with a new battery. My girlfriend suggested trying to heat it up a bit to help it dry out so I put it in the microwave for a few secs but all that did was make this ozone smell... Any ideas????
LOL k no I didn't stick it in the MW, but the gf did suggest that and I about died laughing. I can't get the phone to boot and have pretty much written it off unfortunately - is there anything I can do with it to be useful to the Dream/Android world? I can only assume it's been dissected entirely already.

FYI, when you get your phone wet, the worst thing to do is try to turn it on... next time, take the battery out, leave the back off, slide open the keyboard, and put it in a bag of instant white rice for a couple days. This is your best bet it will survive to live for a bit longer, but will eventually stop working down the road as connections rust...
You can also give it a dip in rubbing alcohol prior to putting it in the rice, this will force some of the water off/out of connections, and clean it a bit. And since rubbing alcohol isn't water, and doesn't effect electrical circuits like water does, no harm. Still do the bag of rice for a couple days trick, though.
And one last thing, it is never the battery! Never, never, never! The battery is water proof, and doesn't die from short circuits(which is what happens when the phone gets wet, and is what causes instant death)

Interesting, I'd always figured it was the battery that went. I used to lifeguard and once found a phone at the bottom of the lake, let it dry out for a week or so and it turned right on, but the battery was hosed.
I did take it as apart as I could and let it dry out, didn't do the white rice trick but I did blow some compressed air (real air from a compressor, not the canned stuff) through it briefly. Main reason I thought the battery was the culprit was I took a multimeter to it and there's exactly 0.0v across the +/- terminals (240kOhm, so probably not shorting). However, when plugged in the phone only provides 1.8v across the corresponding terminals, much too low to charge - any idea if the phone looks to see if the batt is installed before applying power to the battery?

pjcforpres said:
And one last thing, it is never the battery! Never, never, never! The battery is water proof, and doesn't die from short circuits(which is what happens when the phone gets wet, and is what causes instant death)
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Not true. My mom dropped her Samsung Omnia into a pool, then got a new phone through insurance. She tried putting the battery from the new phone into the old one, and it turned right on.

The battery in these things is more than just a battery. There is some control circuit on them, and shorting out the leads on the battery can fry the control circuit.

[Q] Phone architecture

Is the samsung phone designed in a way that any contact with water ends up screwing it?

I doubt it since my wife dropped mine in the snow and left it there for about an hour. I found it dumped it in the rice jar and it was all good. Make sure you don't turn it on, and put it in a bowl of rice for about a day. Should be good, depending on the severity of water damage.

Dropped mine in snow too earlier this winter, wet snow. Didn't notice it, picked it up 5 minutes later.. Still on, still working. Dried it off, all is still well.

joelhon said:
I doubt it since my wife dropped mine in the snow and left it there for about an hour. I found it dumped it in the rice jar and it was all good. Make sure you don't turn it on, and put it in a bowl of rice for about a day. Should be good, depending on the severity of water damage.
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To speed the process you can put the phone and rice near a heater or tv. or some warmer than room temp area.

salt water is dangerous, but normal water less so.
my phone was in a fabric bag that was accidentally dipped into the ocean by my gf (which was only noticed hours later T_T, so it was left in a wet bag...). the bottom 3 buttons stopped working, but amazingly started working again after a couple of days (middle button needs a harder press though, probably because i stupidly and accidentally removed part of the contact point when trying to clean the salt off with a cotton swab).
So, I think the device is pretty tough!

Is quickcharging the phone on a cold stone floor bad for the battery?

I have read that high temps are bad for a battery, and the past few days ive started to use the Standard Moto x4 quickcharger more often.
To compensate the rise in temperature, i just lay the phone on a cold stone floor with the back on the bottom while charging in short bursts of 25%.
I notice the cold floor absorbs the heat, and the battery stays cool that way.
Would charging in this manner be harmful for the battery, or is it a succesful way to minimize battery degradation through quickcharge?
I check the temperature with accubattery app after quickcharging for lets say 25%, and it always tells me around 25°C max (77°Fah)
The floor is probably between 5°C (41°Fah) and 12°C (54°Fah)

I noticed that when I was outside today (pretty cold 3°C) , accubattery showed battery temperature of phone was 12°C;
so the temperature reading in AccuBattery is probably accurate.
This means it's not harmful to quickcharge my phone @ a battery temperature of 25°C or less., by laying the glass back on the floor.
It probably helps to neutralize some of the negative effects quickcharging has on the battery
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I really don't think that quickcharging has any harmful effects; for sure it has been designed taking also thermal conditions into account.
I can't imagine I'd have to look for cold stone floor every time I need to recharge my phone

Is this thread for real?
Lmfao. Life's too short to be worrying this much about a phone battery. Just charge the damn thing.

Jizzylax said:
Is this thread for real?
Lmfao. Life's too short to be worrying this much about a phone battery. Just charge the damn thing.
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Glad you got a laugh out of it.
For you then,
when quickcharging Just don't put your phone on a cold surface, let the battery get hot...
let it go to 0% and then charge overnight to 100%... everyday
and keep it laying in the sun from time to time,
all these things are bad for the battery but apparently they make you enjoy life more.
so enjoy :silly:

Doubt about get the phone under water

This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?

Just wait, I accidentally splashed mine, the moisture notification disappeared after some 4 hours, it depends on ambient conditions, where I live it is 100% humid 24 hours, as I live 200 meters away from the beach..

winol said:
Just wait, I accidentally splashed mine, the moisture notification disappeared after some 4 hours, it depends on ambient conditions, where I live it is 100% humid 24 hours, as I live 200 meters away from the beach..
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The notification has gone but the phone is getting warm and it feels dampy.
I knoknows that depends of aambient conditions but I feel it different...
Thanks for your comment
Regards

Conito11 said:
This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
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I would try putting your phone in a bag of rice overnight to draw any water out that may have been forced in from the pressure of the running water. Never use soap on your phone or place it under running water. The soap lubricates the water and allows it to be more easily forced where it wasn't intended to go. I just use a microfiber cloth with lens cleaning solution sprayed on the cloth. Even doing this causes the moisture detected warning for a few.

Buy some anti-bacterial wipes to clean your phone with. There is absolutely no need to wash it with soap and water.

Conito11 said:
This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
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Why on earth royals tu nerd soap to clean a phone? The i68 rating is about water resistance of under water. At 1 mtr for 30 minutes.. My figures may be wrong as they change from ip67 to ip68 but the point here is that you're not supposed yo it it under a tap!
He depth and time of water resistance is defined in these certifications because it is about pressure and time.. Eg The phone can hold up to the pressure at 1 mtr of hat ever depth has been mentioned in the rating for a maximum of the time given in the rating.
If it is 5 mtr 15 minutes, then it will not be damaged by water if it's 5 mrt see for 15 minutes max.. As time increases the pressure on the seals can and probably will get water into The phone.
Remember it is water resistant not waterproof! With a tap The after comes out with pressure and that could cause one of the seals to fail.
Also, soapy water is better at conducting electricity, it could have shorted out the phone and you would have a spotless but dead note 8.
Water resistant does not mean water proof and it certainly does not mean dunking the phone in water all the time. It is a safety measure which helps if you accidentally get it wet or drop it in a puddle.
The guys testing phones on YouTube are different as they try to push the limits but do not recommend it for others to follow or repeat Their tests
This us long but I see a lot of people are unaware and say their phone is waterproof.. I recently met a guy at a cellphone shop that is run by my friend.. The guy had an IPhone 7 or 7s or 7s+ if there's one.
He got it wet accidentally, spilled water on it and it died.. I asked him whether he went to apple he said he did and they want Rs. 35000 which is $500 to replace it.
I told him that it is supposed to be ip67 or ip68 so they should cover it under warranty.. But they never offered him this solution..
Don't you think it is wrong that they claim water resistance and it dies because of a splash and they do not cover it?
Hope this helps..

centaur31 said:
Why on earth royals tu nerd soap to clean a phone? The i68 rating is about water resistance of under water. At 1 mtr for 30 minutes.. My figures may be wrong as they change from ip67 to ip68 but the point here is that you're not supposed yo it it under a tap!
He depth and time of water resistance is defined in these certifications because it is about pressure and time.. Eg The phone can hold up to the pressure at 1 mtr of hat ever depth has been mentioned in the rating for a maximum of the time given in the rating.
If it is 5 mtr 15 minutes, then it will not be damaged by water if it's 5 mrt see for 15 minutes max.. As time increases the pressure on the seals can and probably will get water into The phone.
Remember it is water resistant not waterproof! With a tap The after comes out with pressure and that could cause one of the seals to fail.
Also, soapy water is better at conducting electricity, it could have shorted out the phone and you would have a spotless but dead note 8.
Water resistant does not mean water proof and it certainly does not mean dunking the phone in water all the time. It is a safety measure which helps if you accidentally get it wet or drop it in a puddle.
The guys testing phones on YouTube are different as they try to push the limits but do not recommend it for others to follow or repeat Their tests
This us long but I see a lot of people are unaware and say their phone is waterproof.. I recently met a guy at a cellphone shop that is run by my friend.. The guy had an IPhone 7 or 7s or 7s+ if there's one.
He got it wet accidentally, spilled water on it and it died.. I asked him whether he went to apple he said he did and they want Rs. 35000 which is $500 to replace it.
I told him that it is supposed to be ip67 or ip68 so they should cover it under warranty.. But they never offered him this solution..
Don't you think it is wrong that they claim water resistance and it dies because of a splash and they do not cover it?
Hope this helps..
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Nice opinion and as you Said: waterproof is not the same like water resistant.

As I have seen reading several posts regarding this issue about claiming warranty due to water damage, it is very difficult if not impossible to get a device fixed by means of warranty under this circumstances, because the damage might be caused by exceeding the max allowed depth, or the time it was submerged and, if the device was put into a strong flow of water, as they can not verify anything about these possible scenarios, they refuse to make valid the warranty

Moisture Detected when Phone powered off + No fast charge

Hiya
I seem to have a quirky moisture issue that appears the opposite to what people usually experience:
My phone will charge while powered on but with no fast charge.
If I power it off it and try charge it, it will say moisture detected.
I have tried:
The fast charge issue appeared while on holiday in a hot and humid environment, but I never tried turning off and charging during my holiday (just wanted to keep it working before i got home)
Drying the phone with a cool hairdryer
Left in bowl of rice overnight
resetting with cable plugged in
clearing the cache partition
etc etc
Any ideas what would make these two symptoms show up?

Well if you didn't put it in the water or a wet place where it could get some moister I would say... :
Take it to Samsung could be a problem with the phone itself.
Buy a wireless charger and charge it that way should be better.

it has definitely been in water before but definitely not outside of operating conditions (no deeper than 1.5m in fresh water and no great pressure applied). Always rinsed with fresh water straight away if it was in contact with any salt water.
The water damage indicator in the sim card tray still has nice crisp crosses on it so i don't think there has been any significant ingress of water into the phone otherwise this would be all red.
Just can't figure out why it would charge while powered on but not charge while it is off...

Fixed. Must have really got some persistent moisture stuck in there. Powered off and put in a drying oven at work and gave it a blow dry. Seems to be all good now. Might keep this one away from water for the foreseeable future haha

There's a lake 20 ft in front of my house and my phone's been in it a few times and never a problem... Blow out the charging port and be done with it.
A good friend has one and went to Florida and had the same issue, the only difference is the salt water. He ended up sending it in and they sent him a new one no charge...
Photo's[emoji2398] by Sully using SM-N960U or SM-870A

Preim said:
Fixed. Must have really got some persistent moisture stuck in there. Powered off and put in a drying oven at work and gave it a blow dry. Seems to be all good now. Might keep this one away from water for the foreseeable future haha
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Certain particles of debris can cross your pins which is what the device uses to detect moisture. If certain pins ground, your device will state it detects water.:good:

Jammol said:
Certain particles of debris can cross your pins which is what the device uses to detect moisture. If certain pins ground, your device will state it detects water.:good:
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Maybe there was some sand stuck in there or something too