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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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felacio said:
Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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I remember gingerbread running pretty nicely on my OG Evo as well. I do A LOT of different things on my phone (as I'm sure most of us do ), but there would always be something I could find. Guess it's just me being nitpicky lol. Didn't you release a Rom or 2 over there?
I love this newest version of sense, miss some of the old sense widgets though. The zoe feature is top notch, and the camera pics are better then any mobile phone camera I've ever used. And I also have to admit, I'm in love with Blinkfeed. Everything right on the homescreen that I want to read, and some things I didn't, but found out that I did lol. All around I think it's a great os. I'm curious to try out some aosp on the One but I don't know if I'm willing to give up those features. I'm also intimidated about the internal data moving around between aosp and sense, and having to manually move it around. That's why to me right now it's not worth the change. Well have to see what's in store for the future.
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I know on my evo shift aosp ran flawless and fast as all getout.... I suppose the benefits on a device this fast would simply be the fact that its the latest android release 4.2.2 as opposed to whatever android version sense is (currently 4.1.2). Honestly for the enrichment that sense brings I don't see it getting nearly as popular on the one unless klp brings some killer features. Until the next iteration of sense comes out and we get that update....
I'm with ya OP I just don't understand the reasoning. But some people are just purists I suppose and want stock Android for some reason. I've personally always thought of AOSP was kind of moving and meh.
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I tried CM10.1 for a few days it's night and day more fluid. If it gets fully functional bye bye blink feed.
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I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!
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I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!
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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.
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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.
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Right..I was a junkie for all the things you could when I first learned about rooting, I was reading forums ALL the time!!!
Another thing to add is that Sense 5 is much more transparent to Android. You see a lot more of AOSP in the new version of Sense, like the notification menu, some of the text editing, etc. Personally, I like Sense over AOSP because AOSP to me seems just too basic. And this is a good in between to where I've actually been happy with it. Sense 3 and 4 were just way too in your face, but I liked it because it was Sense. I now see it more because I have the One. At this point, if HTC stays with it's values on Sense 5, and continues to innovate, more people will likely stay.
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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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That's because all AOSP ROMs are a hack. I'm sure it will be as fully functional and stable as any OEM Sense ROM.
The CM Project has some of it's own code. But they don't have access to firmware and they need to play together. HTC and Carriers have access to everything.
People always think open source means Open everything. It's almost always a Hybrid with some propriety pieces that are not released and the "public" code is always lagging in what's released.
Some things done on AOSP are reverse engineered when they don't have source for something (or the latest source).
I've yet to see a AOSP ROM CM have a FULLY functional GPS. Nor have the ## codes ever worked which I find really useful.
By the time they (Sprint HTC CDMA Android phones) are Officially Supported (if at all) it's over a year and the next generation is released.
Unofficial AOSP (CM) is always behind.
To answer Ops question, some ppl like the pure android experience. AOSP Roms are usually the 1st to be updated to the latest version of android. Also, AOSP Roms take up less memory than Sense roms. There are some features I actually miss from CM/AOSP like widgets in lockscreen, 4.2 quick toggles from notification drawer, quick reply to text from notification drawer, 4.2 photosphere, etc. I used to just run CM on all my devices when available but I'm actually liking Sense 5. For me, I'm happy with it and don't see myself flashing AOSP any time soon
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I think on dated HTC phones aosp was the way to go because sense was over bearing.. aosp came along way as far as functionality and features. Aosp opened development to things like cm, pa, rootbox, akop with things we never have on sense. Now on the other hand sense 5 is the sweet spot and with the camera features how sense is more incorporated into android opposed to how sense just ran on top and took control. Sense 5 is more like Pippen to Jordan rather than Shaq and Koby both wanting the stardom at one point
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Sense is one of the reason I use HTC. I tried a few asop roms on my ol g evo (loved that phone)and never liked them as much.
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Has anyone ported a sense Rom for a device from a different brand
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I am with the op as well. I use HTC devices because of sense. I would just use a nexus if I wanted aosp. Just a matter of personal preference I guess.
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Well right now there isn't much advantage. But when key lime pie lands and then L whatever it becomes a lot more appealing. HTC won't keep this updated for the two years I will own this phone but I will still want to play with next great thing and not be stuck here. Usually bounce between ASOP and the newest sense that gets ported.
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I was a AOSP user for awhile on my cdma htc hero and my lg optimus s (AOSP made them less sluggish). But I always had some sort of bug. When I bought the S3 I was excited because the phone is so popular I figured AOSP would run really well and the bugs would be gone....Needless to say it was always too buggy for me (and if you goto the cyanogenmod thread there is always someone reporting a bug). So I stuck with touchwiz but didnt like the look so I themed it and honestly I was pretty content. A large part of why I like cyanogen is because it looks really nice.
The new sense hit it out of the park IMO and is a great base to tweek up even better than touchwiz. Looks wise its awesome and it has many good features. I am now going to root and install a custom rom based off of stock. Stock tweaked rooms seem to be where its at right now.
Im not going to lie if I could choose plain android vs sense I might choose android but the choice between modded AOSP (buggy) and stock modded is simple.
also it's the battery life of aosp roms, usually cm roms easily doubles battery life for me, on the lte i could easily go 1 day and half on my batt when most on sense couldn't make it thru a day being a heavy user, there are pros and cons to sense and cm
I decided to try vanilla Android and brought a Nexus 4 and guess what? Guess they call it vanilla for a reason. It was absolutely the boringness phone I have ever had. I only lasted 2 weeks with the phone before I gave up on it.
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I'm runnin the latest cm nightly and alls well... Like aosp sometimes... Fun to change it up just because... I can!
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Hey guys,
I'm looking to get away from Sense if possible, but I've found that the IR blaster app is pretty useful, so I don't want to leave it out.
Are there any AOKP or AOSP roms out that have support for the IR blaster, either through the stock HTC TV app, or otherwise? If not, are there any plans to incorporate something into the future versions?
There are currently no AOSP based ROM's that support the IR blaster (I believe due to lack of drivers).
However, when we get our hands on the "Nexus experience" ROM that HTC intends to release, it will very likely have the proper drivers which can be ported to all the AOSP based ROM's (since it'll essentially be an AOSP ROM).
So keep your eyes open, because who knows when it'll happen, but it's not too far off.
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There are currently no AOSP based ROM's that support the IR blaster (I believe due to lack of drivers).
However, when we get our hands on the "Nexus experience" ROM that HTC intends to release, it will very likely have the proper drivers which can be ported to all the AOSP based ROM's (since it'll essentially be an AOSP ROM).
So keep your eyes open, because who knows when it'll happen, but it's not too far off.
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that is pretty much what im waiting for and deciding if ill switch over to ASOP. Hoping the "google edition" has beats zoe filters/mods (doesnt need actual zoe).
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that is pretty much what im waiting for and deciding if ill switch over to ASOP. Hoping the "google edition" has beats zoe filters/mods (doesnt need actual zoe).
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zoe and beats will still be present..read up a bit..
Its gonna have beats (wont be present in notification bar and probably wont be in settings) and it'll have a good camera, not sure about all the features though.
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zoe and beats will still be present..read up a bit..
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someone said no zoe, you say yes zoe, sources please and i already knew about beats. i just want to.. read up a bit..
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someone said no zoe, you say yes zoe, sources please and i already knew about beats. i just want to.. read up a bit..
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here
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first link said no zoe. i would like your source, kind sir that said yes to zoe
Thanks! I'm going to hold off from flashing anything for the moment.
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So I know that there is a Paranoid android ROM that has this feature, but will it ever become an app or something that any phone (specifically the HTC one) can use? Because I'd really like to keep the default ROM and have the HALO feature, because it is one of the most amazing things I've seen!
I know it's open source and would try myself, but I don't know how
Thanks for any help
Would be really hard to implement afaik, so I wouldn't expect anything to happen unfortunately
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So I know that there is a Paranoid android ROM that has this feature, but will it ever become an app or something that any phone (specifically the HTC one) can use? Because I'd really like to keep the default ROM and have the HALO feature, because it is one of the most amazing things I've seen!
I know it's open source and would try myself, but I don't know how
Thanks for any help
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It will need some serious hacking to work on Sense based roms
AOSP ROMs though it can be compiled into the rom
btw there is already a PA ROM for this device in the original development section, and that has the latest HALO built in
Short answer: No, it's impossible.
But using some app like Floating Notification?
Yeah I've seen floating notification, but that doesn't have the "pop-up application" feature. So even though it is near impossible for a sense ROM, what about as a standalone app?
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Yeah I've seen floating notification, but that doesn't have the "pop-up application" feature. So even though it is near impossible for a sense ROM, what about as a standalone app?
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May be you are looking something like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2286190
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May be you are looking something like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2286190
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Wow, I completely gave up on this, but it looks like you've found what I was looking for! Thanks so much, hopefully it works
EDIT: Ok, not what I was looking for, thanks for helping anyway
seems to be working on the One X with Sense ROMs? Correct me if I'm wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2286190
Let's hear it.
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I have a nexus 7 and stock Android bores me. I actually like Touchwiz and the "vomit inducing colors", that some people complain so much about.
I have no need to rom my S4.
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I have a nexus 7 and stock Android bores me. I actually like Touchwiz and the "vomit inducing colors", that some people complain so much about.
I have no need to rom my S4.
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I tend to agree mostly because I enjoy having the option. TW has really stepped it up since the Gingerbread version that came stock on the S2. I tend to go back and forth between TW and AOSP. A great option.
The Nexus 7 is a great device. I run JellyBeer because I like tabletui on my tablet. I tend to do less modding now on that device because I play a ton of games on it. I'd rather it just be stable.
I will say this I brought a TW device because I like TW. People buy a TW device and complain about TW I'm like why not just buy a pure Google device instead of flashing a rom to get that pure Google experience.
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It's great we have options. I say whatever floats your boat. But like E, I bought a TW device because I wanted one. My wife had an S3 and I had HTC's. I did all the techie stuff on her phone and grew to like the interface. It's a refreshing change for me being a long time Sense user. And I've been very pleased with it so far. But it's nice to know I can always switch if I get bored with TW.
The device itself, no. There will be near-perfect ports for the TW devices already out there. But if I had the choice of buying either of them at the same price, I'd go with the GPe. I don't use most of Samsung's pre-loaded features.
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I've enjoyed the TW experience and why give up features for the pure android experience?
I came from HTC Sense and pure Android with all the roms I found for my Evo3d, so TW is new to me. I love TW! To me they all do the same crap. I do love all the settings, options and gadgets from TW so I prefer it for now. The only reason I tried non sense roms was for Jellybean and increase speed. With my S4 I don't need any more speed plus I love the funs stuff that came with the phone so I don't see myself installing a different rom unless its the next Android version. Whats the next Android version to come out? Apple Pie or something like that?
The only time I used an aosp rom for a long period was on my hero. I actually preferred sense over aosp and now I am really enjoying tw. I must admit I do notice some lag at times, but no more than any other phone I've had. Also, this is the longest I've ever gone without rooting a phone. I'm considering rooting now just to get rid of some of the bloat I never use.
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I've always liked the dark aosp roms and paranoid android but this is the first touch wiz phone I've like the tw on because of the extra features.
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If someone can get the tw camera ported, that would be sick.
Finally I find people that like touch wiz. As a fellow liker of tw it was sad being in a minority of one
Vanilla may be nice in some aspects, but it gets boring quick. I don't know what specifically, but there were things I couldn't do on vanilla that I could do on touchwiz. I don't know of any, off hand, that I couldn't do in tw but could in vanilla. I don't know if it is an issue now but it used to be that a Bluetooth program, or the emulator program, wouldn't work with a Nintendo controller if it had touchwiz. Haven't used it lately so I don't know if they fixed that. The Dev said that touchwiz wasn't compatible at the time. This was the time of the nexus s 4g.
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I will say this I brought a TW device because I like TW. People buy a TW device and complain about TW I'm like why not just buy a pure Google device instead of flashing a rom to get that pure Google experience.
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Sprint doesn't have any pure Google devices.
I'm not a fan of the vomit inducing colors on asop. The lack of ability to customize the phone the way you want without having to resort to play store apps or asop roms is annoying. The horrible camera and phone app reminds me of pre froyo. Settings menu lacks the options to customize and requires too many "clicks" deep into menus to get what you want.
WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS/brightness all require
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Yes because they will give us power users and devs more options and it will boost aosp development for regular stock subsidized phones.
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I regularly switch between TW & AOSP. I like them both for different reasons and I change as the mood suits me. I'll say this though - I waited longer to flash an AOSP rom on this phone than I have on any other phone in something like 2-3 years. And that covers a whole lot of phones. Samsung has done great things with TW and I'm legitimately baffled by all the hatred it gets.
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Sprint doesn't have any pure Google devices.
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Galaxy Nexus
Nexus S 4G
I bought this phone for the hardware, and SUPER AMOLED, 5 inch screen. The extras mean nothing to me. I like the snappiness of AOSP/GE. Once you flash CM10.1, you cant' go back to TouchWiz. It just doesn't look right.
Until stock android gets better features, no. Google needs to come up with some cool features like LGs quick memo, floating apps, or video overlay, or Samsung's dual window mode, and pop out video. It's features like that, that actually enhance the android experience. App switching ≠ multitasking anymore. What's the point of all these quad core phones if we don't get use out of them?
Another main thing is google needs to stop giving CDMA users the cold shoulder. Even if Pure devices were worth it, they wouldn't be worth switching companies for.
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I bought this phone for the hardware, and SUPER AMOLED, 5 inch screen. The extras mean nothing to me. I like the snappiness of AOSP/GE. Once you flash CM10.1, you cant' go back to TouchWiz. It just doesn't look right.
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Maybe YOU can't, but I do all the time. I don't really notice any difference in speed between the two, and my 3g data on CM is just awful.
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Is it just me or do Roms today lack sustenance. Most Roms all just share the same features. Whether its pie, lock screen notifs, listview animation, and all do so with out functionality. The first day is fine but after that you get a framework issue. Paranoid lacks the wow factor it had with jelly bean, and cyanogen has been dry and doesn't inform people on their new features. I remember when Chevy and simply stunning came out with an animated pulldown with gingerbread. Where is the uniqueness. Im not trying to dis devs or anything im just wondering when did romming get a specific set of features that every rom must have. Please don't flame if you feel differently say so. Don't belittle.
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Is it just me or do Roms today lack sustenance. Most Roms all just share the same features. Whether its pie, lock screen notifs, listview animation, and all do so with out functionality. The first day is fine but after that you get a framework issue. Paranoid lacks the wow factor it had with jelly bean, and cyanogen has been dry and doesn't inform people on their new features. I remember when Chevy and simply stunning came out with an animated pulldown with gingerbread. Where is the uniqueness. Im not trying to dis devs or anything im just wondering when did romming get a specific set of features that every rom must have. Please don't flame if you feel differently say so. Don't belittle.
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Cook your own ROM.
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This isn't a social network. Please contribute to development on this development website. Thanks
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well, if you keep following the "popular" roms, what do you expect? why do people always assume that if its a popular rom, then it has to be good? there are many more roms out there than pa or cm. look in the original dev threads(not android dev threads, since they are all just basically cm or other rom based). i gave up on popular roms like cm years ago, literally. anyways, personally, i dont look for features, so roms with many useless features are worthless to me. i want stability and speed, stuff that the popular roms lack.
and if you dont really like the selection. learn to make your own. and i dont mean learn to just put it together from other peoples patches/code, learn how to actually develop and make something new.
This has been discussed a lot of times in the galaxy nexus and nexus 4 forums. The thing with custom roms is that you will always have people asking for features (that other roms have) to be included in roms they are using, so basically you end up having most of the features everywhere.
My opinion is if someone has the tendency to get bored after a while, and has the constant itch to modify something, the nexus line is not the best choice. OEM branded devices have their corresponding software (touchwiz, sense etc...) and AOSP ports, which gives those people a wider selection. Needless to say that their AOSP builds mostly contain certain bugs, so constantly flashing fix-packs can be an additional level of excitement to please the itch :good:
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Is it just me or do Roms today lack sustenance. Most Roms all just share the same features. Whether its pie, lock screen notifs, listview animation, and all do so with out functionality. The first day is fine but after that you get a framework issue. Paranoid lacks the wow factor it had with jelly bean, and cyanogen has been dry and doesn't inform people on their new features. I remember when Chevy and simply stunning came out with an animated pulldown with gingerbread. Where is the uniqueness. Im not trying to dis devs or anything im just wondering when did romming get a specific set of features that every rom must have. Please don't flame if you feel differently say so. Don't belittle.
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OP as stated, if you or any others get bored, with the Great Work being provided here or any where on XDA, change devices or, this is a Development Site sooooo. If you feel so much, that you have to open a thread in this manner, I say: Pickup & Learn Development and then provide it here as others have and are doing freely. Functionality, well that would be something different for each Member, and last time I check these ROM's that are being shared/provided are the work of those OP's who took their time to make for themselfs, and felt they can share it here on XDA. If you find something not to your liking and or functionality, you can either move on or again make your own....or stay Stock, which there is nothing wrong with Stock.
Thanks and Thread Closed.