How does the phone 'know' when the keyboard is slid out (and therefore to change automatically from portrait to landscape)?
The reason I am asking:
I just replaced a broken digitizer, and upon reassembly, the screen is stuck sideways. If I run a program that is portrait only, it switches to portrait just fine. I can also download an app to change it to any orientation I want, and that works as well. I thought it might be the orientation sensor, but that is functioning just fine according to the sensor readouts. After more troubleshooting, I ended up at the conclusion that the phone thinks the keyboard is open, even when it is not. Before I take it apart a fourth time to poke around, I was wondering if anyone knew exactly what I need to look at and how it works.
Thanks!
After a good bit more searching, I found someone who had the same problem, and the solution. In case anyone wants to know, the phone 'knows' that the phone is closed due to a very small magnet in the front faceplate frame (if you have the frame off the phone and lying face down, its towards the top and to the right) lining up with a sensor in the main part of the phone frame. The new faceplate did not include that magnet (This makes me angry ). I pulled the one off the old frame, opened 'er back up, stuck the magnet in, buttoned it back up again, and bingo. We're good to go.
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Hi @ all !
There´s a thing very annoying in the new Kaiser... You cannot use any belt-pocket with magnetic closers !
After setting the phone to standby via one short press on power button, I found it back turned on again, everytime I took it out of the belt-pocket.
First I thought, that this must be the keyboard slide mechanism, cause the phone also comes back, when you slide out the keyboard, but I kept an eye on it, not the move the slider while putting it into the pocket and back out again. Then I thought, that it was the light sensor, but some tests made me sure, that it must be something else.
Finally I found out, that it turns back on again, cause I´m still using the belt-pocket of my old TyTN I with the 2 magnets as closing mechanism... If you try and hold a magnet over the keyboard in the area of S,D,E,X,F or even on the back side in the same area and move it around just a little bit, the phone turns on... Crazy, but true !
Now I know, why they gave that awful new belt-pocket with the tape-closer to the Kaiser...
Hope that helps
Marco
It is partly related to keyboard... it has a magnetic sensor that it is activated when keyboard is released, so the magnet from your holster tricks the sensor into believing keyboard is out, so it activates screen.
I guess thats why they have the velcro closer on the one that is shipped with the phone. This is somthing to consider when buying a nice Piel Frama one.
Absolutely it's the keyboard magnet operated switch that does it. But, I know you can run a magnet (let's say the case magnet ) over the d-pad area (seems to do it on mine) and the Kaiser will turn on. - However, I have been using the TyTn case also and I have not noticed it turning on just by sliding the Kaiser in and out. In fact I have just sat here and put it in and out every which way (for the last ten minutes) and it has not come on.
Maybe your magnets are stronger than mine or your keyboard switch more sensitive? I am also not keen on that "tape" closing on the new case.
Mike
lol i wish i would have read that some place, i thought it was the keyboard some switch but didnt think they would use a magnet, it was pissing me off a lot while i was driving, now i know i found on my own, but the magnet that i have is shielded a bit, but still just the right position and it will trigger the switch
I sure hope this was posted some place in a FAQ or wiki, if not it should be and if it was, then shame on me for not reading that part or noticing it
Magnetic sensor via magnet in holster.
Just found out this "feature" with a BB holster...
Has anyone found a way to exploit/use this feature to turn-on the device when removed from the holster?
That is something I always envied with my wifes Blackberry.
I've noticed this too
I have the same problem, but since mine is set not to wakeup when the keyboard slides open I can't see how the magnet could be the culprit.
I had the same problem with my Nokia and Kaiser.....Never thought it was because of the magnet sensor in the device....To tell the truth...I didnt know that it had one inside.....Thanks for the info....
Would it affect the sensor in anyways....if it doesnt, I can actually use this "feature" so my phone is awake each time I pull it out of the belt case......
Been very happy with the Kaiser so far, including on the GPS front ;-) but I'm getting slightly annoyed by two hardware nits :
1. wobbly : in portrait mode when I tap on the screen the right side tends to "hit" the keyboard part underneath and looking closely it's easy to understand why, there is a tiny gap between the two parts, likely for the slide/tilt mechanism
2. sloped : when I pull out the keyboard, the right side of the screen goes out more than the left side so it is slightly sloped. It improved a bit when folding the screen. Again I think this is a constraint of the slide/tilt mechanism
I'm thinking it's a general quirk because I had to change my first model (stuck key) and it had the same problems.
Anyone else noticed that ?
in portrait mode my kaiser seems to be spaced the same all the way around and doesnt push on the keyboard when tapping the screen. I do notice what you mean by the keyboard appearing to be farther out on the right side but after taking a closer look it just seems that way because of the face plate not being uniform all the way down (part where it flares out on the left side). Mine is exactly pushed out on both sides.
Lavachild said:
in portrait mode my kaiser seems to be spaced the same all the way around and doesnt push on the keyboard when tapping the screen. I do notice what you mean by the keyboard appearing to be farther out on the right side but after taking a closer look it just seems that way because of the face plate not being uniform all the way down (part where it flares out on the left side). Mine is exactly pushed out on both sides.
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Mine's the same as this. It sounds like yours may not be quite right and I'd consider getting a replacement. Of course, if you can live with it, and the functionality is all there then it's entirely up to you.
For the sloping I've had two and they were both the same, so it's probably a design constraint, no biggie.
For the "wobbling", it comes and goes, I can only really feel the "knocks" when I hold the left side tight and tap on the scroll bar on the right, again, no biggie.
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iv had the same problem of one end sticking out,
iv gone around it by inserting some tiny smugged paper into the sliding slots at the back, resolves the issue quite well.
I don't seem to have either problem (TyTN II version).
recently phone screen is acting kinda weird...
well the problem is when i slide it up, only the 'X' tab or button only works. Other menus in the screen dont work like it should be...
when i slide it down works perfectly fine.
any ideas regarding the problem? Thnx.
since with the ba there is no actual sliding function, you know, the device does not really realize it was slid open unlike other sliding phones, i'd guess this would have something to do with the digitizer or the internal flex cable. maybe it gets strangled, when slid up, if i were you, i'd probably avoide sliding it, before the cable maybe gets cut or torn apart, you should very carefully open it up and look whether there is something strange or wrong with the inside of your device.
the procedure how to get inside the device you can find in the official service manual, to be found here: http://www.4pda-service.ru/netcat_f.../BLUE ANGEL/HTC_Blue_Angel_Service_manual.pdf
Alright, so my problem is that when I slide out the keyboard to type something in, it won't actually rotate the screen. It isn't an issue with the ROM because I have flashed several different ones and it is the same no matter what.
What happens is that I slide out the keyboard, the screen freezes to whatever it was when I slid it out. I type whatever and when I close the phone it just loads up the text that I had typed in. So the keyboard itself works but I can't see what I typed until I close the phone again which is pretty inconvenient. Does anyone know of a way I can solve this? PLEEEAASSSE! help is much appreciated.
unfortunately it looks (almost 100%) like your ribbon cable between the circuit board and the screen needs replacing.
Your symptoms are EXACTLY what mine did. Then it got gradually worse and the screen ended up turning black on sliding it open.
I've replaced the ribbon cable, with some protection on the area that gets worn and so far the phone is fab again!
see this thread (yeah i know it's mine but it's certainly worked for me!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561151
obviously if your phone is under warranty it needs to go back, but once repaired it WILL do it again at some point. Terrible oversight in the design of an otherwise great handset.
I've got a replacement screen that my friend had in his house. Mine was broken (both the display and the digitizer, the latter was acting very weird). I did the replacement myself, and when I was finally done, I noticed something. The Touch Screen wasn't working (I could see the image but no input was recognized). I tried opening it and checking every single cable to see if there was anything wrong, but there was nothing looking broken or out of place. When I was going to test it, I noticed another very weird thing. It actually works if I keep the back of the phone off (not the back interchangable cover, I mean the back of the phone that is screwed in place). The problem is that this phone has a very annoying design that makes it so the Wi-Fi, Speakers, Camera and some other stuff don't function well with the back plate off, speacially the Wi-Fi.
I trully have no idea what is happening or what is causing the problem with the touch screen, and have no idea why the back plate makes the screen act funny. Can someone please help me figure this out?
Perhaps something in the digitizer's flex cable is shorting with the back panel. Try putting a layer of electrical tape between the flex cable and the back panel.