Just curious on other peoples opinion/theory.
So while using my HTC One on AT&T the 3G signal jumps around. I assume its two towers one obviously being farther away and the phone doesn't seem to stick with the one that's closer. So if i force the phone to connect to WCDMA (3G/HSPA) no celluar service works on the device. Eventually I switch it back to 2G and then it starts receiving calls/sms etc. I have been to locations in the area where there are full bars of 3G constantly yet the phone fails to connect properly eventually I give up and switch to 2G at some points the phone drops down to GPRS.
On an international HTC 8X it maintains a strong connection to 3G/H+ using the same simcard. Only thing that has changed is the actual device. I've tried literally all the radios available for the HTC one and all have the same result.
If using a T-Mobile simcard and I go into an area that has been refarmed I pick their 3G/H+ just fine.
So it's not the simcard and its not the phone. I've called AT&T and all they do is make me turn off the phone while they resend the signal from the tower (so they say) then thats when the phones sticks to 3G and functions correctly but eventually it stops working and returns to how it was.
Right now AT&T offers the stronger call/sms coverage while T-Mobile doesn't so I'd rather stick with AT&T even if they suck.
So my question is.
Anyone else experiencing or has had this issue before on the HTC one or another device? If those who have had this was it resolved?
Was it a simple device exchange or were you bumped up the change of tech support eventually reaching some one who knew how to fix the issue or atlease gave more then "Please turn the device on/off, it will fix all your problems"
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A friend of mine just purchased the Kaiser to be used on the at&t network. He lives in a 3G area in the USA and for some reason, his phone will not hold the 3G connection. It wants to switch to Edge. Is there a manual setting to stop this from happening or a new utility to enable/disable certain connection. Is this normal for 3G to do this. Any information I can pass on would be greatful.
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I think it's an indication that 2G is stronger than 3G in your area. My Kaiser always hold 3G connection all the time where I live. You can "manually" force 3G. Here is one the many ways to do it: on Windows Start menu, go to "Setting" then "Phone" (on the "Personal" tab), click "Band" tab, then use "WCDMA" for network type selection (default is "Auto")
Thanks for the help. I'll pass it on.
While the Kaiser is my first ppc type phone and I cannot claim to be expert I do think that this is a normal reaction of the phone to what networks are available.
I live in San Jose Ca. and must, perchance, move up and down the peninsula in the normal course of work and life.
I see my Kaiser switching from Edge to 3G to unnamed all up and down the peninsula. It is best for 3G in the cities and worse up in the hills -as one might expect. I also get the best 3G connections in the evenings and night vs. the daytime when, I assume, more 3G users are taking up bandwidth.
It is unfortunate that where I live is an Edge (during the daytime) area though I am paying for the 3G data plan.
3G issues with the TyTnII
Hello all:
I post on the AT&T HTC forumn and had this thread sent to me by another poster there.
I also have a TyTnII newly aquired from MobilePlanet on Weds. I am having the same issues with 3G. It briefly flashed the G icon on boot up then switches to Edge with all 5 bars. I've tried the manual mode fix, no luck. The wcdma gets no signal and the gsm goes back up to 5 bars same as auto.
Then theres the inability to register my serial # on HTC's EU site. Says SN is invalid... MP has had several reports of EU devices doing this.
I'm in the US, NorthEast NJ area. And in the middle of a known 3G area.
Bill
Can anyone help Bill out? How many of you CAN use 3G on the USA at&t network without a problem? He's trying to see if it's a setting issue or a phone issue. I'm not in a 3G area so I can't help him here.
Thanks
wise87 said:
Can anyone help Bill out? How many of you CAN use 3G on the USA at&t network without a problem? He's trying to see if it's a setting issue or a phone issue. I'm not in a 3G area so I can't help him here.
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I get a 3g signal when I go into Philly (I live about 45 minutes outside the city) It holds it just fine as well. Is it possible you just have weak 3g coverage where you are? I actually shut off the 3g on my phone as I have no 3g coverage at work or at home and the 3g connection discharges the battery in a hury.
I'm on AT&T as well.
Oh - BTW - I also can't register my phone with the eClub either. I sent an Email to the HTC Webmaster but have not had any reply in 3 days. I'm not too confident in HTC's support.
I sometimes get a triangle icon in the taskbar, next to the E / 3G icon.
Any idea what it means?
I cannot click it ... or better: nothing happens.
This is the Roaming indicator.
Mmmmh.
And why am I seeing this in Beverly Hills and the network is "AT&T"?
call up AT-T and ask lol.. But that is the roaming Icon sometimes phoines will pick the closest tower to use since it has the best signal and just maybe t-mobile owns that tower Only AT-T will know.
Not an isolated problem
I have a similar issue in Oz. I travel o/s a lot and am used to the roaming signal appearing whilst I am out of the country. However, this is happening right here at home. I have a Telstra 3G SIM card and all too frequently my Kaiser brings up this "Roam" Signal. Generally I then lose 3G as well, dropping back to HSDPA. Even more strangely, it is still showing that I am connected to Telstra. A soft reset usually brings back the 3G signal. I never had this problem with my Trinity and my work is only a few hundred metres from a Telstra tower so signal strength is not a problem. A bug I think, and damned annoying.
you are picking up T-Mobile. AT&T users can still use T-Mobile towers currently as a result of the deal they made when AT&T (Cingular) sold them the 310-170 network in CA/NV. (its now properly renamed to 310-260 by TMO)
the phone's alpha tag says AT&T regardless of what carrier's network you're on when you're roaming. unless you have the 4EON code applied to your account, in which case it would say Off Network when on non AT&T towers.
any idea how I can fix this?
I am fine with it roaming if there is indeed not 3G network but my issue is that it doesn't drop the roaming as soon as it could.
Camstech said:
I have a similar issue in Oz. I travel o/s a lot and am used to the roaming signal appearing whilst I am out of the country. However, this is happening right here at home. I have a Telstra 3G SIM card and all too frequently my Kaiser brings up this "Roam" Signal. Generally I then lose 3G as well, dropping back to HSDPA. Even more strangely, it is still showing that I am connected to Telstra. A soft reset usually brings back the 3G signal. I never had this problem with my Trinity and my work is only a few hundred metres from a Telstra tower so signal strength is not a problem. A bug I think, and damned annoying.
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I have the same issue - sometimes I have "3G Telstra" (no roaming symbol, and will use HSDPA if needed) and other times I have "3 Telstra" and the roaming symbol displaying. One thing - as I understand it, you are not 'dropping back to HSDPA' - this is actually a service that is on top of the 3G networks, and provides greater download speeds.
I checked with my Telstra reseller who said that this would not change the call rates or data rates. Not sure what causes this though...
Have put this question on Whirlpool as well: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=846691#bottom
Telstra
I have the same issue on Telstra. Hope a new ROM fixes this.
Roaming Notice
Hmmm, I hate it when stupid people post garbage about which they know little. Problem is, this time the stupid person was me!
The 3G symbol shows the phone is within range of a UMTS signal. The H symbol means it is in range of a HSDPA signal, the high speed data version of UMTS so "H" is better than "3G". Oops, so my phone was roaming to a better signal.
This roaming issue appears to only affect a small number of people whose service providers have a crossover deal with another provider. This appears to apply to those with the AT&T/T-Mobile crossover in the US and here in Oz where the phone will pick up either the Telstra Next G network (UMTS 850Mhz, shown as 3G Telstra) or, in big cities, the Hutchinson "3" Network, (UMTS 2100Mhz with HSDPA, shown as 3 Telstra). I was uncertain about this as I never saw the roaming symbol with my Dopod 810, which always showed 3G Telstra. I think the TyTN II, like the original TyTN, has some different software seetings which means that the phone will try the "3 Telstra" network when it can, and this shows as roaming, whereas my D810 either didn't roam to 3 Telstra, or, if it did it didn't show it as roaming. In any case, it's not actually a problem, and as Telstra have indicated, it makes no difference to the data/call rates. I'm chilled on this. Now if they can fix the "hang-up" bug...
I've been wondering about the elongated triangle pointing up too. I have very poor/no reception in my office at work... though sometimes enough to get a voicemail notification (not enough to be able to call and check, usually don't have a missed-call notification).
I'd thought it might have to do with being connected to Active Sync. Sure would be smart if the phone could get notifications of even calls over an alternative data connection when the cellular couldn't connect... even if ATT charged regular minutes for it would be so much better than no signal, period.
I'm having this issue for some reason on my second Tilt that has been sent to me. The first doesn't show it at all but the second does. I don't understand what its doing.
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Hi,
I recently purchased an AT&T Tilt (HTC Tytn II) and unlocked it so that I can use it with the Rogers Network. It worked perfectly for about three weeks then I took it to Orlando for a vacation. While I was there, I change the network setting to manual and connect it to AT&T Roger so that I can use it as a roaming phone. When I got back to Canada, I changed the network detection back to automatic and it connected to Rogers for about 10 seconds then it lost the connection. So for about 10 seconds, it worked but only lasted 10 seconds. I also notice that when it connects it shows E (Edge) as a data connection. After 10 seconds, it changed to 3G. As soon as it changed to 3G, it loses the connection.
I wonder if anyone has this problem. I don`t know if this is because I used it on an AT&T roaming network. I`m very puzzled and any help is greatly appreciated. Thx!
I am having the same problem. I travel to New York quite a bit. My phone would give me a message that it was unable to connect to the GPRS network. So I would go into the Comm manger and deselect the 3g. Then the phone would get a signal. I was not getting a 3g signal, but an edge signal. When I would come home to Ft.Lauderdale the phone would work fine no problems with the 3g till last week.
Soft reset I get the 3g signal 4 bars then it disappears I get no signal ! and then I get an Edge signal in about 5 seconds or so. Everything works but I am unable to get the 3g speed.
If I try to force the phone into a 3g signal by selecting WCDMA on the band I can get a 3g icon. The voice part works fine and displays utms but any time I try to use the data I get some sort of error message. Like dialed "proxy" no response or the remote party would not connect.
Do you think that we might have something corrupting the radio?
Scott
Old At&t
8525 Radio 1.54.07.00
HTC lite 2.5/ Black Satin
spl 1.04/ 2.10
My old at&t rom doesn`t give me the option of selecting the band. Maybe I should flash it with HTC rom and at least get the voice part to work. I don`t know if the security scanning machine at the airport will harm the phone in anyway. They always ask us to take out the laptop and camera separately.
Hi:
I have a Tilt on AT&T's network. Today I was about an hour away from home, and noticed a complete loss of signal. My other phone, a Motorola Razr V3xx, had 3 bars of signal at the same time. I had this same problem in the same rural area before, and just assumed there was nothing I could do about it.
This time though I decided to turn off 3G on the Tilt (since I know it can sometimes interfere with reception), and still nothing. Then I did a soft reset (still had 3G off), and I finally found a signal, as well as the Roaming icon.
Is this normal behavior? The Razr also has 3G, but apparently must switch over to edge when it is in a non-3G area. Why would my Tilt need to be manually reset in order to find a signal?
Thanks!
Hi:
I'd really appreciate any reply
Even if it's to tell me that this is unheard of behavior. My warranty is about to expire, and need to have my phone replaced before it expires if this is a fault unique to my phone.
Thanks again!
cincy1020 said:
Hi:
I have a Tilt on AT&T's network. Today I was about an hour away from home, and noticed a complete loss of signal. My other phone, a Motorola Razr V3xx, had 3 bars of signal at the same time. I had this same problem in the same rural area before, and just assumed there was nothing I could do about it.
This time though I decided to turn off 3G on the Tilt (since I know it can sometimes interfere with reception), and still nothing. Then I did a soft reset (still had 3G off), and I finally found a signal, as well as the Roaming icon.
Is this normal behavior? The Razr also has 3G, but apparently must switch over to edge when it is in a non-3G area. Why would my Tilt need to be manually reset in order to find a signal?
Thanks!
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I'm not sure why but your phone should have switched automatically. For me, I have my band set to GSM manually.
Are you using usually using 3G with no problem? There's a hardware fault in some devices that will appear about a few months of usage where 3G becomes inoperative. When connected on 3G calls will fail, and one needs to force GSM and reboot to be able to use the phone again. Return to service center needed for repair, mine is there now.
Hi:
Thanks so much for your replies!
I think I probably need a replacement phone, so I guess on Monday I'll call and spend the 15+ hours p) on the phone to AT&T to get a new one, lol.
Kilrah, yes my 3G usually works fine, but apparently when I go into a non 3G area it just loses signal. My phone never really gets great reception anyway, so hopefully the replacement will be an all around improvement.
Thanks again!!
I just got my new M8 today. Did the update, activated it, did the profile & PRL update, etc.
I am constantly getting the message that I am roaming on data. It seems to go back and forth between roaming and not roaming. Even outside I only get 1 bar of LTE and the LTE signal is a good 10dBvm worse than my old M7. My M7 never switched to roaming in the same location.
Anyone else noticing worse reception on this phone than the old HTC One?
I'm having the same issue.
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I was worried bout the same myself. In the office with the M7, I wan't able to get LTE, but luckily with the M8 I am able too. I would have your phone checked at a corporate Sprint Store to see if it's faulty
kwolf said:
I just got my new M8 today. Did the update, activated it, did the profile & PRL update, etc.
I am constantly getting the message that I am roaming on data. It seems to go back and forth between roaming and not roaming. Even outside I only get 1 bar of LTE and the LTE signal is a good 10dBvm worse than my old M7. My M7 never switched to roaming in the same location.
Anyone else noticing worse reception on this phone than the old HTC One?
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I had the same issue yesterday when I upgraded my radios to the new version (1.54). I was stuck in 3G roaming at my house which was normally low end LTE service before the upgrade. After flashing the radios I did a Profile and PRL update using WIFI, then restated my M8. After the restart I am back to having LTE coverage floating around -90-95 dBvm. I also notice that if LTE fails to connect swithing airplane mode On/Off helps as well as dialing *18 from the dialer. Hope it helps.
captain008 said:
I had the same issue yesterday when I upgraded my radios to the new version (1.54). I was stuck in 3G roaming at my house which was normally low end LTE service before the upgrade. After flashing the radios I did a Profile and PRL update using WIFI, then restated my M8. After the restart I am back to having LTE coverage floating around -90-95 dBvm. I also notice that if LTE fails to connect swithing airplane mode On/Off helps as well as dialing *18 from the dialer. Hope it helps.
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I already did the profile/prl updates, and my phone isn't stuck on 3G. It will go 3G roaming, then 3G on sprint, then LTE. Seems to not be able to make up its mind. On my old phone it would usually toggle between LTE and 3G in this area, but NEVER did it go roaming. Even when I'm on WIFI I still get the annoying roaming notification in the notification bar every 5 minutes.
I also noticed my WiFi download speed on wireless AC is significantly worse than my M7. I used to be able to get 70mpbs on a speed test, this phone won't even break 12mbps. When I first turned the phone on it would only work on WiFi for the first 3 seconds after connecting and then it would stop. I had to keep connecting and disconnecting to WiFi to limp the software update download along. After it updated it at least stays connected and working on WiFi, but a lot slower than my old M7.
This phone was purchased on a SWAC account so I'm not sure if a Sprint store (which is 40 minutes away for the nearest one) would swap it for me.
Moved to Q&A...all questions should be posted in Q&A.
Thank You,
BD619