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I have a Google Nexus 4 love it but it's on HSPA + for AT&T and I hate that about it..
I have a choice..
Come to the Moto X or Goto the Samsung Galaxy S4..
Can anyone tell me about their experience with the MOTO X what you love and hate about it what someone learns after buying it, if you could would you buy it again?
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I have a Google Nexus 4 love it but it's on HSPA + for AT&T and I hate that about it..
I have a choice..
Come to the Moto X or Goto the samsung galaxy s4..
Can anyone tell me about their experience with the MOTO X what you love and hate about it what someone learns after buying it, if you could would you buy it again?
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It is stock android+ - the plus being touchless controls, motorola assist and active display. It has no lag because it doesn't have an overbloated OEM skin like touchwiz on it. And the Motorola radios hands down beat the Samsung radios. I had the GNote3 and tested it side-by-side with the Moto X and in weaker signal areas the Moto X outperformed the GNote3 in speedtests as well as having fewer dropped calls. In strong signal areas, the GNote3 and Moto X perform the same.
Ergonomically, the phone just feels great in my hand.
Get the GSM unlocked Developer Edition if you can because the latest version of Android is not rootable on the ATT Moto X.
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It is stock android+ - the plus being touchless controls, motorola assist and active display. It has no lag because it doesn't have an overbloated OEM skin like touchwiz on it. And the Motorola radios hands down beat the Samsung radios. I had the GNote3 and tested it side-by-side with the Moto X and in weaker signal areas the Moto X outperformed the GNote3 in speedtests as well as having fewer dropped calls. In strong signal areas, the GNote3 and Moto X perform the same.
Ergonomically, the phone just feels great in my hand.
Get the GSM unlocked Developer Edition if you can because the latest version of Android is not rootable on the ATT Moto X.
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I have to get mine from AT&T with their NEXT program
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I have to get mine from AT&T with their NEXT program
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Well the bootloader is locked down hard on the ATT Moto X and no root available on 4.4.2 and the dev who rooted the Moto X on 4.4 says he is not going to work on finding a way to do it for 4.4.2 so probably never will be. Don't know if that is important to you or not but since you are here on XDA I would assume that it is.
yes very much so. my ability to develop my phone is very important
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Well the bootloader is locked down hard on the ATT Moto X and no root available on 4.4.2 and the dev who rooted the Moto X on 4.4 says he is not going to work on finding a way to do it for 4.4.2 so probably never will be. Don't know if that is important to you or not but since you are here on XDA I would assume that it is.
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The att gs4 has a locked down boot loader also if you are able to get the baseband version of MDL for the gs4 get it! That means there's an exploit but I doubt you'll be lucky enough to get one. You'll probably get one with mf3 or mk2. You can still flash a few custom Roms via safestrap but when I had my gs4 I was always trying to get something close to stock android but the only Roms you could flash is touchwiz roms. The gs4 is a good phone but the gs5 is around the corner and the gs4 will be but a forgotten memory. Plus the features on the gs4 is gimmicky the features on the moto x is very useful. Get the moto x you won't regret it. And if you don't like it within 6 months get the gs5 with the att next program. No root method for att gs4 4.4.2 either on MLD
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yes very much so. my ability to develop my phone is very important
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well, you won't be able to do it with an ATT Moto X running 4.4.2 unless someone finds a way to root and it doesn't look like jcase is interested in that.
I highly recommend the Moto X for it user functionality, but then again you're asking this on the Moto X forum. THe GS4 has too much gimmicky bloatware for my tastes, and I love the Moto X's features.
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yes very much so. my ability to develop my phone is very important
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You won't be able to root on the gs4 once the 4.4.2 MLD update comes.
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You have to shell out some cash and get the unlocked Moto X or Nexus 5. Most of the phones on AT&T are bootloader locked, and of course, since they are AT&T branded they won't get the same level of dev supports as unlocked version.
Nexus 4 is still a pretty good phone. I used it on T-Mobile and flashed the LTE radio. You can try that and see if you can pick up LTE on AT&T, but they only provide band 4 LTE support in very few places, so it's not very likely.
In all honestly, if you intend to buy phone for lots of custom roms, the S4 is a much better alternative provided you can unlock the bootloader. The Moto X I think is a better phone, but doesn't have much custom roms and kernel. The thing is the Moto X work so well I feel no need to root it, it already perform very well and have great battery life out of the box.
I know there is a thread about someone using a MAXX for this purpose here - but I wondered if anyone here specifically had experience using a Telcel GSM SIM in Mexico with a Moto X.
Just a little backstory on this... I am going to Cancun in October. I have a Samsung S4 but read that it has issues using data with a GSM sim... so I did some research and, from what I have read, my best option was to get a Moto X because the radio in 4.4.4 fixed a bunch of issues with using a GSM sim and that the Moto X was truly sim unlocked - where the MAXX was locked during a recent update. From a layman's perspective, it is almost impossible to determine what the reality is... but I made the jump anyway.
I actually got Verizon to give me a free upgrade 15 months ahead of schedule when I told them that I would just add a new line and pay the ETF rather than paying full retail for the phone... after explaining to them that I wanted the Moto X because it was sim unlocked. The good news is that they didn't even extend my contract... they just let me buy a new subsidized phone, apparently.
So, now to the question at hand... has anyone had experience doing this? Do I need to do something to make it work properly?
Hi,
I currently own a Nexus S, customized with AOSP Kitkat ROM. While this is a wonderful device, I think the time has come to change it. 512MB of RAM is just way too low for KitKat and newer apps that are RAM hungry. However, I don't like big phones. I like my Nexus S because it is small and fits everywhere. My brother has a Nexus 5 and it just doesn't fit in my hand. The screen is beautiful, but it is too big for my hand.
I was passing by a carrier store last week and came accross the Moto X and Moto G, both last generation. Both are the same physical size, even though the screen on the Moto G is 4.5inches and the X is 4.7. They fit pretty well in my hands and I love their design. It is also a great thing that it is running nearly stock Android with Motorola applications.
I know the Moto X isn't the most powerful phone on the market, and this isn't what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a nice upgrade with features that I like and a device that feels good in my hands.
Is the device worth it ? Are the Motorola extra features (Moto Assist, Active Display, Touchless controls) working fine ? I can easily imagine my Moto X docked in my car and me asking it for directions or change songs. I can't do that with the Nexus S; it is way too weak in power.
Do you know if I have to keep the stock launcher to get those features ? I really enjoy Apex.
How's the battery life ? I am usually not power hungry as I don't play games on my phone or even watch videos. I listen to music, check rss feeds and social networks.
Lastely, what would you change to the (old) Moto X ? From the reviews that I have read, I understand that the screen isn't incredible, but would you say that it is an issue ?
Thanks for any input
Neo.
Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
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The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.
What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display
Was in the same situation as u 2 months ago, coming from a droid 3. Was looking at moto x and maxx, but battery was a huge plus for me, and went with the maxx, and I couldn't be happier with my choice. Although, it is a 5 inch screen.
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KJ said:
Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
Just my opinion. ?
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Thanks. It did answer if a third party launcher can be installed and keep Motorola features. The answer is yes
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The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.
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I am in Canada, so the device costs more. In fact, I can't really buy the device anymore in Canada and would have to import it from the US. More of a hassle, but may be worth it. I could get the 16GB XT1058 for about 300$USD shipped.
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What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display
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I am currently with Koodo (Telus) in Canada, but I would buy an unlocked device or unlock it myself. Rogers and Fido had the Moto X as an exclusive here in Canada. You couldn't buy the Moto X anywhere else than these carriers store. So if I wanna get a Moto X on Koodo, I must unlock it anyway. As for the Droid Maxx, I've read many times that the radio isn't working properly in Canada. I would have to dig a bit.
On another note, I was looking at how to root the Moto X and it is much more complicated than my Nexus S. If I can get a Dev edition it would be easier but they are hard to find (and not cheap). Gotta love Nexus devices for that reason !
You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.
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You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.
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Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?
The best buy in the last couple of years. I definitly recommend it. I always was the type of person, who felt like having to fiddle a lot with the phone, to fulfill my needs. (I came from LG devices). I always rooted and installed custom ROMs. But believe it or not, I still dont feel the need to root or install a different Software, since the stock ROM runs amazingly great on my phone. I also had the G in my hands, but the X display is way better. Camera... Well it is not the best, but also not as bad as many said. Battery is amazin. And although I already had phones with more capacity, this one lasts longer by far. I also listen to a LOT of music and the phone still gets me through the day quite easily. But there is one thing I would consider. The new 2014 X. For me personally, the screen is too big, but maybe it will be just right for you? And yeah it does not have killer specs, but the phone is definitly smoother than other flagship phones, which often laag due to the extra ("great"/"special") custom UI.
Those are my 2 cents. Hope it helps a bit
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I think it would be quite an upgrade for you and still worth it..
If you have any specific questions feel free to post here or message me
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Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?
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Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.
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Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.
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OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better
$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????
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OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.
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$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????
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I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.
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No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.
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I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.
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I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.
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I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one
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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one
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Yup. ?
Kijiji.
Is there any downside to the Moto Maxx (intnl) version of the Droid Turbo? (I use t-mobile)
No. With Moto Maxx, you can unlock boot loader and root. Droid Turbo, you cannot. No downside.
I didn't root, so I like the absence of Verizon bloatware on the Maxx.
I was waffling and wondering about a One M9, but just got a Maxx this week, using on T-Mobile (thanks to ChazzMatt and others advice). Fantastic phone...the ONLY thing I miss is the IR Blaster (on my G2 and M7).
No moto maxx is better
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No moto maxx is better
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No moto maxx is better, than what?
this thread gives me headaches....
adrynalyne said:
No moto maxx is better, than what?
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Than droid turbo, no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and root already.
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Than droid turbo, no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and root already.
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What you stated is that there is no moto maxx that is better.
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What you stated is that there is no moto maxx that is better.
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Sorry my english is very bad.
So, can US users get a Moto Maxx on Verizon? My biggest Turbo disappointment is not being able to have root.
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So, can US users get a Moto Maxx on Verizon? My biggest Turbo disappointment is not being able to have root.
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If you can find the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, sold by other (smaller) CDMA/LTE carriers, yes it will work on Verizon. The XT1250 has CDMA and Verizon's LTE bands. It's identical to the Droid Turbo, even the same FCC ID, but branded as "Moto Maxx".
The international Moto Maxx XT1225 will not work on Verizon. It's it's GSM/HSPA/LTE only without Verizon's LTE bands. I own two XT1225 and am running one AT&T GoPhone.
Both Moto Maxx models have unlockable boot loader and ability to root.
Thx. I guess I should have done more research before committing to the Turbo. Other than the lack of root, I really do love my Turbo.
Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
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No. With Moto Maxx, you can unlock boot loader and root. Droid Turbo, you cannot. No downside.
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Thanks! So to confirm - it has all the bands T-mobile uses?
I ask because I have had a strange issue where I was out and about and my phone told me it had H+ reception... but I could get any web page to load (also no voice typing would work) until I rebooted it and it was saying LTE again.
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Than droid turbo, no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and root already.
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Thats doesnt mean the maxx is better. I have a turbo that works great out of the box compared to all the issues you all are having with the lollipop build that wasnt even supposed to be distributed. There is no better phone out of the two.
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Thanks! So to confirm - it has all the bands T-mobile uses?
I ask because I have had a strange issue where I was out and about and my phone told me it had H+ reception... but I could get any web page to load (also no voice typing would work) until I rebooted it and it was saying LTE again.
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Has the main LTE bands 2, 4. Does not have LTE band 12, but neither does the Turbo.
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Thats doesnt mean the maxx is better. I have a turbo that works great out of the box compared to all the issues you all are having with the lollipop build that wasnt even supposed to be distributed. There is no better phone out of the two.
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Sorry, it does mean it's better because it gives you more options if you want to root and install custom software. You're on XDA.
Not sure why you are mentioning the test version of Lollipop. I didn't. I'm not running it and has no relevance to this discussion at hand. I'm talking about unlocking bootloader and rooting -- so you can have Root Browser, Adaway, Titanium Backup, etc. All the great apps that need ROOT. Like your user name, so you should know how important that is.
Also for someone SPECIFICALLY asking about T-mobile, with the XT1225 Moto Maxx you don't have to even uninstall all the useless Verizon bloatware.
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Has the main LTE bands 2, 4. Does not have LTE band 12, but neither does the Turbo.
Sorry, it does mean it's better because it gives you more options if you want to root and install custom software. You're on XDA.
Also for someone SPECIFICALLY asking about T-mobile, with the XT1225 Moto Maxx you don't have to even uninstall all the useless Verizon bloatware.
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The person is on tmobile. If he were to get the turbo there is a program that can disable any apk on it without root.
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The person is on tmobile. If he were to get the turbo there is a program that can disable any apk on it without root.
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and the Moto Maxx XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- so re-sale value is greater. For AT&T and T-mobile. Has ALL the AT&T bands, even LTE band 5 is not mentioned in the "official" specs.
And that answer doesn't even address TWRP recovery and titanium backup.
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and the Moto Maxx XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- so re-sale value is greater. For AT&T and T-mobile. Has ALL the AT&T bands, even if not mentioned in the "offcial" specs.
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Dude I am not going to get in a pissing contest with you. To you the maxx may be the best but to someone else the turbo is better. It all depends on the user. To say one phone is better because it has a unlocked bootloader and root is quite ignorant to say the least. Have u tried the turbo? if not you cant compare it even though they may be similar. Have a good day
I brought the test up because the majority of maxx users on here have flashed that. I for one love root, and flashing. But again there are some that could care less.
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Dude I am not going to get in a pissing contest with you. To you the maxx may be the best but to someone else the turbo is better. It all depends on the user. To say one phone is better because it has a unlocked bootloader and root is quite ignorant to say the least. Have u tried the turbo? if not you cant compare it even though they may be similar. Have a good day
I brought the test up because the majority of maxx users on here have flashed that. I for one love root, and flashing. But again there are some that could care less.
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I'm not getting into a contest either, but I just can't believe you are saying a phone with IDENTICAL hardware specs that can be unlocked, rooted, with TWRP recovery (as well as Titanium backup) is not even a shade better than the other phone that does not have those ADVANTAGES. And saying this in XDA, a developer's forum.
For a person with T-mobile, both have the LTE bands 2, 4. So no difference there, but all the other stuff is different.
But I"ll leave it there. To each his own.
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I'm not getting into a contest either, but I just can't believe you are saying a phone with IDENTICAL hardware specs that can be unlocked, rooted, with TWRP recovery (as well as Titanium backup) is not even a shade better than the other phone that does not have those ADVANTAGES. And saying this in XDA, a developer's forum.
For a person with T-mobile, both have the LTE bands 2, 4. So no difference there, but all the other stuff is different.
But I"ll leave it there. To each his own.
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Lets back up a bit from what i said in my last post. I have a nexus 6 and a droid turbo. I chose the nexus 6 for my daily driver because it has root and the works. I love rooting and custom roms. I am bringing this up because there are people on here that could care less about root. So to them an unlocked bootloader/root means nothing to them. The want a phone that works excellent out of the box. So to them the droid turbo is the better of the two or vice versa.
Will changing the Build.prop to something like OPEN on the Build.target.operator make the Non Verizon sim go away when theres an AT&T sim in the phone?
No one? I'd really like to know before going through the hassle of getting one. Thanks
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Maybe you can try moto maxx, its unlocked, have oficial cm support and exact same hardware of droid turbo
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Maybe you can try moto maxx, its unlocked, have oficial cm support and exact same hardware of droid turbo
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Yeah I`d rather have it, But the price is much more. $630 new vs about $350-$400 used.
My only worry about the DROID Turbo / Maxx is the screen tint
Only in low bright i see, more than 40% is pretty great color and accuracy too, ig you install cm 12 have full rgb control