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MS voice command vs Voice Speed dial

Hello
can somebody help me understanding the difference betwenn Voice command and speed dial and if I can use both on the same PDA ?
So far I understand that
- Speed Dial dials numbers and start programs by using voice tags
- you need to train each name to be recognized
- there is no true voice recognition
- Voice command dials numbers and starts programs by voice recognition
- in addition VC reads calendar entries and SMS/E-Mail
- there is no training mode to increase accurancy
So which program would provide better results for recognize and dial numbers by voice ?
Can I run both in parallel and use VC for the calendar function and Voice speed dial for the dialing ?
Plus I try to install VC 1.6 now .. but the button maps only to the explorer button on my TytnII .. not able to move him to the voice record button with the button application in settings
any suggestion / fix
Thanks freecall

freecall said:
not able to move him to the voice record button with the button application in settings
any suggestion / fix
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I have the same problem.... any solution?!?!?!?

Cyberon is crap. I posted a detailed procedure for replacing it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337501

I have installed Cyberon voice commander v2.0 and i am very happy with it when i use it with my bluetooth!!!
My only problem is that i do not know how to assign this program to the default "button 6".
I think default settings are:
"Button 6" --> Cyberon voice commander and
"Button 6 (Hold)" --> Record. (This one works).

hmm that sounds like a drastic deinstall .. so anyway to get the Voice speed dial back without doing a full hard reset if I would it like better than VC after some testing ?
Freecall

M$ Voice Command ROCKS!
Ok I don’t say that about many applications especially M$ ones but I love VC. I keep my phone in its case and the BT ear piece in the ear, when the phone rings or I get a Text message VC tells me who is calling or reads the text to me. If I have an appointment but don’t recall what time it is, I just ask VC.
As far as accuracy in voice dial, it can’t be beat, say “Call: Joe Blow on mobile phone” and it will confirm “Call Joe Blow on mobile?” never misses. Say; “Dial 2125551212” and it will confirm and dial the number. No voice tags no training and it works for anyone. If my wife grabs my phone and needs to call someone she hits the VC button and off she goes.
Ok so there is one issue, with the Tilt there is no convenient button to map too, but since I do all my dialing from the BT headset or car unit it doesn’t matter to me. If you don’t mind it maped to your IE soft key ok, you can get to IE 3 or 4 other ways. On my old wizard (long live the wizard) I had it mapped to the record button and it worked great.
Russ741

Russ741 said:
Ok I don’t say that about many applications especially M$ ones but I love VC. I keep my phone in its case and the BT ear piece in the ear, when the phone rings or I get a Text message VC tells me who is calling or reads the text to me. If I have an appointment but don’t recall what time it is, I just ask VC.
As far as accuracy in voice dial, it can’t be beat, say “Call: Joe Blow on mobile phone” and it will confirm “Call Joe Blow on mobile?” never misses. Say; “Dial 2125551212” and it will confirm and dial the number. No voice tags no training and it works for anyone. If my wife grabs my phone and needs to call someone she hits the VC button and off she goes.
Ok so there is one issue, with the Tilt there is no convenient button to map too, but since I do all my dialing from the BT headset or car unit it doesn’t matter to me. If you don’t mind it maped to your IE soft key ok, you can get to IE 3 or 4 other ways. On my old wizard (long live the wizard) I had it mapped to the record button and it worked great.
Russ741
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I have to agree with Russ. Microsoft Voice Commander is by far the best ~$17.00 I have spent for this phone, as well as the 8125 I had before this. The Voice regconition is awesome. I did have to change the buttons as described above. I chose the camera button as I never use the camera anyway. It works great with my HT700(headset) as well as the HT820(bluetooth headphones). The options allow for a good level of customization as well.

that sounds realy good and I will start testing it .Two quick questions to the comments above:
- have you installed VC without deleting / un-installing Voice speed dial on your Kaiser ?
- second it looks my device recognize all VC commands like time, date , help , signal etc but when I say call First Name Last Name it never finds any of my 590 contacts .. even it the name is as simple as Taxi G7 .. beep comes back empty .
When I say just call .. it dials a number I do not even recognize.
Can this be related that I do not have a option menu for contact in the VC settings (it is greyed ) , I can only select the notification button ?
Or is this maybe because I use PI 2007 ?
Thanks Freecall

freecall said:
that sounds realy good and I will start testing it .Two quick questions to the comments above:
- have you installed VC without deleting / un-installing Voice speed dial on your Kaiser ?
- second it looks my device recognize all VC commands like time, date , help , signal etc but when I say call First Name Last Name it never finds any of my 590 contacts .. even it the name is as simple as Taxi G7 .. beep comes back empty .
When I say just call .. it dials a number I do not even recognize.
Can this be related that I do not have a option menu for contact in the VC settings (it is greyed ) , I can only select the notification button ?
Or is this maybe because I use PI 2007 ?
Thanks Freecall
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freecall,
Right now i have both installed (getting ready to delete Voice Dial) and VC is partially functional. I will accept commands and process them correctly but it will not announce calls, read messages or calendar data. So once i have VD removed I will let you know.
I recommend you also remove voice dial before trying anymore tests.
Russ741

Russ741 said:
freecall,
Right now i have both installed (getting ready to delete Voice Dial) and VC is partially functional. I will accept commands and process them correctly but it will not announce calls, read messages or calendar data. So once i have VD removed I will let you know.
I recommend you also remove voice dial before trying anymore tests.
Russ741
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I did not uninstall Voice Dial. IF you want to hear the calls and emails, make you configure VC properly. There is settings for only:
1.) Only announce during Free-Time. Make sure you check that one to whatever you want.
2.) Only High Priorty Emails get annouced. Again, check whichever option you want.

Where do I get a list of commands that VC will recognize? E.G Dial, Recall, on Mobile, etc.

Say "What can I say?" and you'll have your answer...

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Where do I get a list of commands that VC will recognize? E.G Dial, Recall, on Mobile, etc.
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or go to the Microsoft website and look up VoiceCommand 1.6 for PPC. The list is really quite long!
Russ741

Any ideas Gang?
So, after following the thread for removing voice dialer and remapping the PTT button to become button 6 and button 6 (hold) VC is still not announcing incoming calls (and yes I have configured the options!) anyone have any idea why it would perform 90% of its duty and not the last 10%?
Russ741

Are you sure it's not announcing them, or is it possible it's announcing them through the "wrong" speaker? If you've got it set to use BT, BT, and only BT, then all of the announcements go through the headset, or don't get made if it's not currently connected (like walking out of range and then back in).
I tweaked mine to announce only through the speaker, then turned it off because the robot voice annoyed me, but at first I thought it wasn't working...

One question about VC...
Do you have to say the person's full name to dial them? Let's say I have a contact name John Smith, do I have to say "Call John Smith Mobile", or can I program nicknames somewhere within the software so I can say something like "Call Smitty"?

It's based on the contact name, so "Call Smitty" will confuse it.

Is it possible to send messages just using voice or only receive them?

jackjohnson said:
One question about VC...
Do you have to say the person's full name to dial them? Let's say I have a contact name John Smith, do I have to say "Call John Smith Mobile", or can I program nicknames somewhere within the software so I can say something like "Call Smitty"?
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It is based on what ever names you have in contacts so, for example if I want to call my office I say; "Call work" since there is only one number in the contacts database VC doesnt ask for Mobile, home or work. And since my office is just listed as First Name: Work Last Name: <blank> it understands.
Russ741

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Is it possible to send messages just using voice or only receive them?
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I simply reads the text or email to you, so there is no way to compose a message with VC.
Russ741

Almost perfect...

I got my Diamond last Thursday and have been using it with my secondary sim whilst I got used to the phone and became used to using it intuitively... I am happy to say I am now completely comfortable with it and it is *almost* perfect!
Changes:
*Bepe 0.97 FIXED
*Diamond Advance Config tool
*S2U2
*Comm Manager advance.
Thank you to all the great people working to made this device all it should be! Donations forthcoming very soon!
I have just a few questions with regard to my remaining issues:
*The contacts summary page which comes up after ending a call, any way to suppress that?
*Is there any way to bluetooth contacts, files (pictures/music etc) to and from another mobile phone? I tried transferring a jpg image, an MP3 ringtone and a contact via bluetooth from a Sony Ericsson W880i but all three failed!
*Is there any way to display contacts as FORENAME SURNAME as opposed to SURNAME, FORENAME?
Thank you in advance for any advice regarding the above

Anyone?????

Think I might be able to help you out there.
1. To get rid of that contacts thing at the end of a call, tap Phone on the Home screen, then tap Menu and then Options. Go to the Advanced tab right at the end and untick "Add new phone number to Contacts at end of call".
2. To receive files of any kind over bluetooth, you have to have Bluetooth turned on in the Comm Manager, but you also need to have the Beam option turned on. If you have the modified Comm manager then you should be able to see the Beam option in there.
3. All my contacts show up as "forename surname" already, I think it might be to do with how you have it set up in Outlook, because I remember Outlook had it "surname, forename" by default and that drove me mad until I changed it. Hunt around in Outlook to change the way they're displayed, then do a sync, and I'd say that should do it.
Dave

Thanks for taking the time to reply Dave!
The contact summary still seems to come up I did untick this box a few days ago and maybe its a bug but the screen still appears on finishing a call.
I turned on Beam and the bluetooth file transfer now works just fine, thank you!
I will sync up when I get home and have a play around with Outlook, thanks for the suggestion I think that will remedy this problem too.
Is there an advanced contact manager or SMS manager out there by chance? Sending and receiving a few SMS today and the whole transition from TF3d to the WM is a bit jarry, and browsing contacts isnt really possible without the stylus... so far these are the only small niggles in day to day use! The latest version of S2U2 really helps usability and allows you to lock the hardware buttons when you get an incoming call... no more calls answered by mistake with this app!

No bother.
I never manually browse the contacts list because it scrolls very strangely, its impossible to successfully pick a contact.
The best way to select a contact when sending a text, I've found, is to type the first letter or two of their name, eg "DA" and then everyone with a name starting with DA is listed, eg DAD, DAVE etc. Much better than scrolling a list. Its the same behaviour when making a call and you want to select a contact; just bring up the Phone app (the one with the keypad) and start typing their name on the number pad.
I agree though that the process of moving from TF3D to WM6 when sending a text is very clunky. I wonder would HTC consider developing their own TouchFlo messaging software that covers all aspects of sending SMS and email. Unfortunately the iPhone still has the advantage there; you still have to get out the stylus every now and then on the Diamond.

I have most of my most frequently used numbers under the People tab in TF3D... good suggestions as above though.
May give this a try if I cant get along with the SMS...
http://store.xda-developers.com/xproduct.php?xProd=1943
Will have a search to see user opinions

Calling from contacts list

I seem to have a recurring issue. I can not make a phone call from my contacts list. If I go to my contacts and tap call mobile or call home it does not launch the phone. It does nothing. If I tap email or sms it works fine. The only way I can make a phone call is to manually type the number in. I have tried different roms from different people and I have the same issue.
Has anyone come across this? Is this a common issue ? Is there a fix for it ?

ryche316 said:
I seem to have a recurring issue. I can not make a phone call from my contacts list. If I go to my contacts and tap call mobile or call home it does not launch the phone. It does nothing. If I tap email or sms it works fine. The only way I can make a phone call is to manually type the number in. I have tried different roms from different people and I have the same issue.
Has anyone come across this? Is this a common issue ? Is there a fix for it ?
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Might be able to help out more if we knew what ROM you are using. I do not have this issuse and have used Miri, Duttys and PhamQuang ROMs.

I have used the wm6.5 energy Leo rom, I 've used Miri's 6.5 v9 manila 2.5 rom and Dutty's 6.5 R4 rom and they have all done the samething. Right now I currently have Dutty's 6.5 Leo R4(MSVC) rom installed. The funny this is that at first it worked just fine but when I started adding the contacts I used the most to the quick launch in the contacts list is when this started happening. The other roms did it right off the bat.

ryche316 said:
I seem to have a recurring issue. I can not make a phone call from my contacts list. If I go to my contacts and tap call mobile or call home it does not launch the phone. It does nothing. If I tap email or sms it works fine. The only way I can make a phone call is to manually type the number in. I have tried different roms from different people and I have the same issue.
Has anyone come across this? Is this a common issue ? Is there a fix for it ?
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what other programs do you have installed on your phone? do you have other apps that include contacts functionality? also, are you trying to call from the Manila contacts app or the Windows contacts app? can you call contacts that are not on your People (Favorites) page? i have no problems initiating calls from the Windows and Manila contact apps by tapping "Call Mobile", "Call Home", etc. given your issue is not ROM specific, i'm inclined to believe its related to software or something stored with your contacts.

i have no other contact apps installed. i can not make any calls from quick contact list or from the "all people" list

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i have no other contact apps installed. i can not make any calls from quick contact list or from the "all people" list
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after you flash a ROM, how are you reloading your contacts? if syncing, what is the source? after your next flash, i recommend adding a few contacts manually (3-5) and then determine if you can initiate calls from the by tapping "Call Mobile", "Call Home", etc. if you can, then reload your existing contacts and try initiating calls again. if it doesn't work, then the next item (in the process of elimination steps) is to review your contacts for info that could be causing the problem. fyi, i'm using MS Exchange to store and reload my contacts after flashing a ROM.

I am syncing with my PC and pulling my contacts from outlook. does it make a difference if you add a contact to the favorites list having the phone number or sms number as the number saved to quick contacts ?
I just noticed that if I go to start menu, click contacts, I can make calls that way.
The only apps I have installed is, tomtom7, slide to unlock and tweak HD

OK I finally found the problem In tweak HD if you go down to 1.8 phone pad style. I had it set to windows because i don't like the slide to answer call. When I put this setting back to HD (default) I was able to make calls from the manilia people tab and all contacts list.
So I guess I'll just have to choose either to not use the manilia people tab to make calls so I can answer the phone using the phone soft key, or use the people tab and have to deal with the slide to answer call. Unless there's another way to disable the slide to answer call

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OK I finally found the problem In tweak HD if you go down to 1.8 phone pad style. I had it set to windows because i don't like the slide to answer call. When I put this setting back to HD (default) I was able to make calls from the manilia people tab and all contacts list.
So I guess I'll just have to choose either to not use the manilia people tab to make calls so I can answer the phone using the phone soft key, or use the people tab and have to deal with the slide to answer call. Unless there's another way to disable the slide to answer call
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ahhhh... yeah, it's typically something we install and forgot or we assume it didn't have any impact on our issue. fyi, you don't have to use slide-to-answer to answer a call. i never use it, lol, i always use the send key (key to the left of the home key) to answer calls or the end key to ignore the call. glad you got it sorted out.

yea amazing. As you can see it drove me crazy. I found the solution by accident. The only thing I hate now is when I get a call the caller ID from slide to unlock comes up ( which is the one I prefer ) and the windows/manila one keeps flashing on top of it.
Otherwise Dutty's rom seems pretty solid

Camera zoom
I noticed that I do not have the zoom function with this rom, which I knew already, but if I was to install the old camera cab to get the zoom function back would I lose the ability to take pics at 5megs ?
Also I have tweak HD installed and it unlocked some good features like burst and sport, would I lose those functions ?

[Q] Car Bluetooth not displaying contact names

Ever since I factory reset my phone contact names are not displayed on the car when someone calls. It just shows the number instead of the name. Even before there was some contacts that did not show the name and some that would. Anyone know why this happens and how to solve it ?

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Ever since I factory reset my phone contact names are not displayed on the car when someone calls. It just shows the number instead of the name. Even before there was some contacts that did not show the name and some that would. Anyone know why this happens and how to solve it ?
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do you have any numbers in your cars "phone book"? I know on my car (2011 Subaru Outback), it only displays the number, but I haven't tried to set up any phone book contacts yet. It's only a small scrolling screen. I can't recall what it's like on my wife's 2010 Mazda 6 with the LCD display screen.

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do you have any numbers in your cars "phone book"? I know on my car (2011 Subaru Outback), it only displays the number, but I haven't tried to set up any phone book contacts yet. It's only a small scrolling screen. I can't recall what it's like on my wife's 2010 Mazda 6 with the LCD display screen.
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I'm not sure if it stores any contacts in the phone book. What happens is everytime I turn the car on it connects to the phone and then it transfers contacts to itself. Which is where it should be pulling names from. It worked fine with a very old dumb phone don't see why it would not work with the SGS.

Where do you have your contacts stored on your phone ??
If in Google Contacts, maybe they need to be on the phone itself ?

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Where do you have your contacts stored on your phone ??
If in Google Contacts, maybe they need to be on the phone itself ?
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Ya I was thinking maybe that was it but I remember before it was working with google contacts. Also to note is that when I try to voice dial out through the cars system I can use (google) contact names just fine. Almost all my contacts are stored in google don't really want to make duplicates if its possible to get it working with google contacts which I know there must be because it worked before with them.

Call using voice search gets "No number saved"

After a recent Google Search update I started getting the verbal and screen message "no number saved" when I try to place a call using voice search. I say "call karen xxx on mobile" and it shows the contact and lists the phone number even though it says no number saved. Same behavior for all contacts. Previously this worked perfectly. I then updated to 4.2.2 via the OTA and still have the problem. When I call from my car bluetooth, it also works perfectly as the car had already downloaded the contacts. Has anyone seen this behavior? Should I try an export, delete, import of the contacts? I may just go ahead and do a factory data reset and set it all up again.
edit: Just tried "call karen xxx" and it asked if I wanted mobile, home, or work. I can't make sense of why on one hand is says no number saved and then asks if I want the mobile, home or work number.