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Ok I've been searching the forums for a while now to find answers to my questions and I've answered a few of them but I think I need a little more advice.
I'm using the HTC Touch Diamond and the Model NO shows DIAM500 on the back I've got MP6950, ROM version is 1.22.557.1, Radio Version 1.03.06F. I'm a CDMA user (Pretty sure anyway) and my carrier is Cellular South.
I love my Diamond it's just my carrier that seems to be a problem. I live out in the boonies so my reception is virtually non-existant at home. Not a major problem but an annoying one. It's not just with the Diamond it's with every cell phone I've ever had. Also the battery life could be better I think, I get about 4 hours with pretty moderate use while I have signal (at work). Haven't really done any tweaking YET but I've started messing around today.
Now this brings me to the reason I'm posting. I was looking into updating my ROM but was not able to download the latest from the HTC site (I figured out why). So as far as ROM's go I'm a little confused with all the custom ROMS posted here, I don't really know which would be best for me and if they will work at all and not screw up my phone. Can anyone offer some advice on what ROM is should use?
And I also want to play around with different Radios because I'm under the impression that it could help my reception issue, and then again it probably won't since I've always had this issue. So has anyone had luck with a certain radio helping poor reception? Is there one that would be better for me than the others?
I'm sure these are fairly regular and annoying questions but I just want to make sure I don't throw away the purchase I just made by updating the ROM and radio.
Most of XDA Forum is not for CDMA.
You can always find custom ROMs. Each ROM is different from the others (included applications and options which affect memory usage and performance). So there really isnt a "best ROM." You can check out the thread for CDMA ROMs and make sure you know how to install new ROMs and that you have the needed applications (HardSPL for GSM I dont know if its the same for CDMA). If you have what it takes you can try several ROMs and radios to find the most suitable one for you. Normally this shouldnt harm your phone unless you dont read well before attempting.
Hope this helps.
I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
salamandar said:
I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
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you're probably in the right forum, since rooting is development. but i do think you should check out the hero forum just in case there's stuff about the Sprint Hero
I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
thanks for the response, I agree and posted a different post related only to the Sprint Hero on that forum (hopefully i did not abuse the forum rules, if I did, I understand if a Dev locks or deletes one).
jj972 said:
I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
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I may be wrong about this but to my knowledge, CDMA is a Network as well as Hardware and software type of thing. When Android was developed it was not capable of running on a CDMA network, one of many things added when Cupcake (firmware 1.5) was relased. CDMA is a network type so GSM only devices will not work on it and as far as I can tell devices built for CDMA are built specifically for that. There is some sort of hardware in there that allows the device to connect to the CDMA network that GSM only devices dont have. (I may be wrong about this though, I also believe it has to do with the radio).
Finally, I dont know what metro or cricket is and I also didn't know that the G1 was on those networks but if it is, I would assume that if those are CDMA networks its not the same G1 that was released on TMO and differers internally in that it can function on a CDMA network. If that is the case then its probably possible. If not then no.
Dont quote me on any of this. I'm not saying this from an experts point of view just from what I have concluded based on what I know about network types, devices and Android.
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I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
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CDMA is hardware AND network... not software.
salamandar said:
I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
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if u had used astro to back up your apps and install them one bye one u would not have had a problem
Thank you superg05 that's a good idea.
Android is capable of supporting both CDMA and GSM.
harpreet1988 said:
Android is capable of supporting both CDMA and GSM.
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it is now. but originally it was only built for GSM... only T-Mobile's GSM most likely lol
this is really dumb but has some tried one click root yet? or will that mess up the recovery image leading to a possible brick. becase its running 1.5 not 1.6 right?
I one click rooted my friends g1 the other day and it works fairly well. Don't think you can use the gsm hero root method to root a cdma hero.
Just fyi attempted to root the Sprint Hero using the one click method, but was unsucessful. I couldn't seem to back up the stock image. Any advice?
brianhaden said:
Just fyi attempted to root the Sprint Hero using the one click method, but was unsucessful. I couldn't seem to back up the stock image. Any advice?
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it would probably be best to wait till more people get their hands on the sprint hero. the more people that get their hands on it, the faster way a rooting method that works will be found
Hi,
This is a stab in the dark, but my attempt to contribute to the good work been done by many others in rooting and flashing the tattoo, but I'm going to need some pointers.
I foolishly told the wife to buy a HTC Tattoo that was locked to Orange UK thinking, hey it'll be a piece of p!ss to unlock. That definitely isn't the case. Now I've rooted the device using the various things on the forum, the contributors are vast, so not enough space to mention them all here.
I plan tonight to flash using the AzusaRom, but as it's been pointed out on a number of occassions this doesn't unlock the phone from the CID check. I've also tried one of those turbosims without joy, so I thought I'd start taking a very tenative look around the tattoo to see if I'm able to understand what's going on a bit more.
I was hoping for a little guidance that's all. I'm assuming at some level there's a process spawned which at boot says check this SIM card? One approach I guess will be to understand what that process is and disable it? Although from what I gather the issue is to do with the version of the radio rom and the thing we really need to do is hack and flash the radio rom?
I'm probably putting myself out there for some ridicule, but this problem seems to be a recurring theme and perhaps a consolidated thread might be useful for everyone in the same boat.
So anyone wishing to join the party please do.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12167
Works perfectly in my Orange Tattoo and I running my O2 SIM no problems whatsoever. We would all love a hacked radio rom but me thinks it not that simple.
I would have thought that on a rooted phone if we flashed the HTC rom 1.67.405.6 then this would write the generic radio rom to the phone but I guess it doesn't, there must be some other protection somewhere.
Okay so I use to keep up with the cell phones a decent bit but never got into the windows mobile phones.
Cause my original use for phones was just to have a phone encase someone needed to reach me.
Then it slowly grew into calls, text, music.
And slowly into the now, calls, text, music, organizer, web browsing, pictures, email, no weather though (rain or shin who cares lol), instant messaging, video, I don't really hit the myspace, facebook, twitter really but would be handy for gf, anyone do anything for wiki yet lol
Man getting old sucks. lol, it use to be easy to keep up with everything.
examples: Home Theater, Car Audio, Computers, Cell Phones, Gaming, Exc.
So keep in mind this is for my Sprint - HTC Touch Pro 2 - Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional
I have noticed not alot of love for the CDMA Phones, and I'm also not sure what type of display my phone is.
I have seen like 4 or 5 different labels for the display types and wondered which mine was.
So to my point. From what I am seeing going threw all of these.
No one seems to be making a version of these things where your not totally re-flashing the phone. Or am I just reading that wrong.
In using these different things do they really replace the original backup image on the phone. Or are they just adding another app or Today Screen Item or System overlay or what ever you call it.
I see alot of warnings and using different things for backing up my phone.
That the person suggest to use.
So I'm just try to gauge the level of change to the phone that is going to happen.
I was also wondering how often to people on here take from people ideas or suggestions?
Since I lack the skills in programing. I was thinking of making up some mock pictures and descriptions of what I would like and see what people and programmers think.
I would also be open to any suggestions in things to add as well.
So I think I am going to start doing to mock ups and will post them in a second post but will make a spot for me to edit after this one.
Mock Ideas & Display
post to be edited in future for ideas and concepts
First of all, you'll have to find out more details about your phone... For that you go to Settings > System > Device Information. There you'll find all the details about the current ROM, Manilla, etc. And enough details to get all the information regarding your phone using Google.
Secondly, it's really not that difficult keeping up with the latest tech. Get a few nice RSS feeds for news on technology. I'm personally still waiting for some viable Augmented Reality tech. If you've got an interest then you'll keep up and with the software we have today you can get everything right on your phone or desktop. I personally spend the first hour of every day browsing news, reading articles and reading my emails using my Google Desktop RSS feeds.
Thirdly, flashing ROMs is the easiest way for custom builds to be released. Otherwise you'd have a hundred different CAB files to install and you'd likely get a million errors because of requirements from other CABs that weren't considered. Flashing is really not that difficult and saves a lot of time and effort for both the developer and the user (for the developer because he doesn't get a million queries on why something isn't working). Of course there are a hundred different apps and themes to change the look and feel of your phone but the problem is that HTC never released a global version of Sense/Manilla 2.5 for the Touch Pro 2 (Phone is sold with WM6.5 and Manilla 2.1). They've recently released some localized versions but getting them for your phone is a mission and it doesn't provide you with all the nice added functionality that some of the XDA developers provide.
It does replace your original ROM but you can always download that again from HTC and just flash it back to the original.
Lastly, writing software isn't just as easy as 1,2,3. Well... sometimes it is but if you really want to create something that's useful and adequately stylish it's going to take some time. What's likely is that you'll create your concept art and someone might have the same passion for the concepts that you do and create it for you. Chances are very slim for that though... but post the concepts and let's see what you can come up with. I'm personally writing an integrated system for my fiance using web-services, windows apps and mobile apps so that she can manage her ballet school comfortably. This is a huge project in itself and I get bored really quickly if there isn't anything challenging to figure out.
Always check google... chances are that someone's already created what you're looking for.
Good luck with the catching up and don't be afraid to ask questions. Just also remember that there is unfortunately such a thing as a stupid question so use the search function on the forum as well as google extensively before asking anything.
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So keep in mind this is for my Sprint - HTC Touch Pro 2 - Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional
I have noticed not alot of love for the CDMA Phones, and I'm also not sure what type of display my phone is.
I have seen like 4 or 5 different labels for the display types and wondered which mine was.
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You're in the wrong forum, this particular one is for the GSM TP2. For CDMA, you'll find a separate sub-forum. But perhaps the best place for CDMA TP2s is ppcgeeks.com
windows mobile 6.5 professinal
processor: msm7600-528mhz
memory: 185.43mb
expansion slot: in use 8gig
Boost
boost software license version 1.0
freeimage
lua
luabind
opengl
stlport 5.0
rapidxml
simplified wrapper and interface generator (swig)
bstring
OS version 5.2.21889
Manila version 2.5.20121324.1
rom version 2.04.651.4
rom dat 3-6-10
radio version 2.32.00wf
hardware version 0004
prl version 60670
pri version 2.20_003
browser version 6.0
eri version 0
cpu qualcomm(r) 7600
speed 528mhz
ram size 288mb
flash memory size 512mb
data bus 32 bits
storage size 192.93
display resolution 480x800 from htc wvga screen
colors 65536
that is all the info i could find directly on the phone but not sure what i'm suppose to look up on my phone on google
as far as keeping up in general yeah its not hard. but keeping up in depth is another story. like the programing behind the phone, programing behind the computer, what is the latest and greatest in home and car audio, playing all the lastest games, exc.
I mean i can build a computer, install home and car audio, i know i can install apps and install this stuff in time with enough reading, and i keep up with enough gaming for me lol
I just can't keep up in the detail that i want to keep up with and be able to do
i figured there was a reason why the better stuff was a rom flash just wondering why
now when were talking about flashing the rom. are we talking like flashing firmware or bios. or we just saying uploading data into the machine in one large load. and does this flashing also replace the windows os or is that left alone?
oh i'm still going to make a mock setup using my paint.net lol
i'm very sure i will design something that will catch peoples eyes and make them want to make it
I have done that plenty for game mods, some windows stuff, and other things along the way
oh i have been searching google for the past couple weeks and how i came across this site. but mainly was finding little apps were some work and some didn't. but didn't give me the final product i was looking for
and yeah i'm on a few different forms for my game and other stuff so i know how they go. just sucks to see 100s of pages of stuff cause its like a needle in a hay stack sometimes or the person description or wording is not clear for every person
steviewevie said:
You're in the wrong forum, this particular one is for the GSM TP2. For CDMA, you'll find a separate sub-forum. But perhaps the best place for CDMA TP2s is ppcgeeks.com
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and sorry i thought i double checked and didn't see any direct labels for that plus that I saw a few post in here for both gsm and cdma phones, i did see the fully seperate section for the cdma phones but i saw a decent number of people did make for both in here and figured i might get a bigger audience here.
but thanks for the link to the other place i will check there as well
but so far this place has caught my eye the most
so are you stating that i should close this thread and start a new one in the cdma section or am i within reason for keeping this going for a little longer till i'm ready to post my mock in the cdma section instead of here?
oh yeah and how do i figure out if my phone is cdma or gsm
cause i saw in a post that sprint uses both
allusion said:
oh yeah and how do i figure out if my phone is cdma or gsm
cause i saw in a post that sprint uses both
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Yeah the CDMA phones can use both CDMA and GSM. But the important thing is that you need to use CDMA ROMs and CDMA radios. If you flash a GSM ROM by mistake then the phone won't boot, but you can easily flash a CDMA ROM.
However, if you flash a GSM radio by mistake onto a CDMA phone, then you *will* brick it, and there's no way back !
The best way to tell is to check the model number of your phone, under the battery. It will be "RHODxxx", where the "xxx" is three digits. Yours will be RHOD400 or RHOD500, which are the CDMA phones. The GSM ones are RHOD100/200/300 (and variants thereof, e.g. 310).
steviewevie said:
Yeah the CDMA phones can use both CDMA and GSM. But the important thing is that you need to use CDMA ROMs and CDMA radios. If you flash a GSM ROM by mistake then the phone won't boot, but you can easily flash a CDMA ROM.
However, if you flash a GSM radio by mistake onto a CDMA phone, then you *will* brick it, and there's no way back !
The best way to tell is to check the model number of your phone, under the battery. It will be "RHODxxx", where the "xxx" is three digits. Yours will be RHOD400 or RHOD500, which are the CDMA phones. The GSM ones are RHOD100/200/300 (and variants thereof, e.g. 310).
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so yeah my phone is a cdma phone from what your saying there since mine is a rhod400
and great now i got to figure out what the difference is between cdma roms and cdma radios
do i even need to bother with radios or no?
lol you learn one thing and then you find out you still need to learn 10 more things
got to love the spiral effect, stuff slides down hill, never ending loop, or whatever you want to call it, lol
allusion said:
so yeah my phone is a cdma phone from what your saying there since mine is a rhod400
and great now i got to figure out what the difference is between cdma roms and cdma radios
do i even need to bother with radios or no?
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ROMs are the main things running your phone, the operating system and software to operate the main functions.
The radio is the firmware (which also sits in your ROM) which controls the actual radio transmitting/receiving functions - i.e. talking to the cell towers, talking to GPS satellites and (possibly ? can't remember for sure) the Wi-Fi.
So with an updated radio you can sometimes find better reception/battery life/GPS lock. It's easy to experiment flashing different radios because you don't have to backup/restore stuff like you do with ROMs.
Just make sure you flash a CDMA radio to your CDMA phone though, not a GSM one !
alright so basicly i got a bit of research infront of me before i even dare to make any major changes to my phone. blah
how often do people package both the rom and radio together?
and since this is windows, and your saying when you flash the phone it replaces everything, how does microsoft track the os out there or do they not use the os serial key on the phones like they do on the computers?
so in saying this as well i half to make sure whatever rom i do decide to flash to my phone i half to make sure its to a touch pro 2 or i will have problems. if i'm understanding this correctly
i wonder how hard it will be to find guides with alot of pictures?
i never seem to follow just text very well
i have noticed for some of the general things i have picked up from here they had very nice pictorial guides to help me lol
but for the rom back up and flashing i'm noticing pages of pages of text and not much in pictures lol, damn visual bases in learning
If my personal experience is anything to go by, people tend to flash the ROM more often than the radio, because the ROM changes more often, assuming it's a custom/cooked ROM. People tend to stick with a radio which works well for them, when they've compared a few - then if a new one ever comes out it's easy to flash that and see if it's better or worse (or just the same).
MS don't track the OS install like they do with a PC, there's no activation as such. Custom ROMs are often running leaked ROMs from MS anyway, rather than official releases.
When you flash you need to make sure it is for a CDMA TP2, not just for a TP2. Because if you flash GSM stuff by mistake then Bad Things may well happen (which you might be able to recover from, or might just destroy your phone).
any reason people used just the leak roms besides getting an early start
i mean do they ever replace it with a legal version
i'm not a big fan on stolen software. stolen software is part of the reason why items have higher prices, granted most of the price is cause of the manufacturer, but thieves don't help the price lol
now free software is another story that is all good lol
allusion said:
any reason people used just the leak roms besides getting an early start
i mean do they ever replace it with a legal version
i'm not a big fan on stolen software. stolen software is part of the reason why items have higher prices, granted most of the price is cause of the manufacturer, but thieves don't help the price lol
now free software is another story that is all good lol
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If people own the device for which the ROM is intended, then I don't consider it stolen; it is intended for that device, and will be released for that device.
Personally, however, I do not install "leaked" ROMs; they are in development.
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If people own the device for which the ROM is intended, then I don't consider it stolen; it is intended for that device, and will be released for that device.
Personally, however, I do not install "leaked" ROMs; they are in development.
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Just out of interest, how does that fit with running a ROM based on 24631 (leaked and will never be released for the TP2)?
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Personally, however, I do not install "leaked" ROMs; they are in development.
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Which leaked ROMs are you referring to ? Because in the past, when ROMs such as T-Mobile and AT&T ones have been leaked, they have actually been the finished article (as proved by comparison with the final published product), just not officially released as yet, hence not actually under further development.
Despite going through several threads here and somewhat failing on easy rooting, found a one-click via YouTube, MotoFail_Windows something or other I believe it was. Seems simple enough.
However, in looking through Android Development here for this device, there doesn't appear to be many ROMs, am I missing something? Had no idea so much effort would be spent making this phone work for GSM folks. Any and all help for a newbie D4 owner who has every intention on rooting/flashing/tethering in the very near future is MUCH appreciated.
DNak206 said:
Despite going through several threads here and somewhat failing on easy rooting, found a one-click via YouTube, MotoFail_Windows something or other I believe it was. Seems simple enough.
However, in looking through Android Development here for this device, there doesn't appear to be many ROMs, am I missing something? Had no idea so much effort would be spent making this phone work for GSM folks. Any and all help for a newbie D4 owner who has every intention on rooting/flashing/tethering in the very near future is MUCH appreciated.
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Rooting is pretty easy. I would recommend using jsnweitzel's Droid 4 Utility. Super easy to use.
Unfortunately you're not missing something in regard to ROM development. It's really fallen off here recently. Best thing to do currently is probably update your D4 to the most current Moto ICS leak. The CM9 and AOKP builds for the leaks are fairly stable. If you don't want to go that route I would recommend myfishbear's Eclipse port for GB.
The good news is it sounds like hashcode (main D4 dev) is getting closer to getting us up and running with the kexec kernel exploit that will allow custom kernels. Hopefully, once that gets going, ROM development will pick back up.
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Had no idea so much effort would be spent making this phone work for GSM folks.
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There really are no good GSM QWERTY phones out there right now. There's a couple of Blackberry-style ones which are awful and the Sony Xperia Mini which is also awful. Both have tiny keyboards. Most GSM QWERTY people seem to be hanging onto their old HTC Desire Z (which you will know as the T-Mobile G2) or coming here and getting a Droid 4. There really aren't any other options.
For US folk wanting custom ROMs. The process is actually the same as getting GSM support, root, flash the latest ICS leak, install safestrap, install either AOKP or CM9. You can follow my guide for getting GSM to work since it's actually the same process.
I've added to the OP instructions for putting AOKP or CM9 on there, both of them are the same low level stuff, produced by Hashcode, with the ROM-specific framework grafted on top.
Awesome input, thanks guys (and gal). Unfortunately the kid trying to sell it apparently was unaware the phone was active in his "brothers" name. This is of course after calling Verizon to make sure the phone was clean. $280 in the box, my instincts should've kicked in but the kid actually seemed sincere. Ah well, still keeping my eyes peeled and will eventually get one so this is helpful info. Thanks again.