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[Q] Sprint Release AND Sprint MotoMaker Date?

SO yes...
What are we looking at for a release date and MotoMaker on Sprint? I am on Sprint and am PUMPED about this phone

Copying and pasting the same thing I wrote about Tmo in a different thread, except it applies to Sprint as well.
All black and white will be available for Tmo on Aug 23. $199 on contract, but off contract pricing still unknown. Motomaker for Tmo in November.
Play store version sometime before the end of the year. No clear details on timing or pricing, except that it could be around $350-$400 range.
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Psilocin said:
Copying and pasting the same thing I wrote about Tmo in a different thread, except it applies to Sprint as well.
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Nice, Thank You!
I will be switching to AT&T. XD

Kwongger said:
Nice, Thank You!
I will be switching to AT&T. XD
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I ordered off contract. Will try to get an unlock code from Att and continue using with Tmo. Simply costs way too much in the long run to sign a contract with any other carrier than Tmo.

Psilocin said:
I ordered off contract. Will try to get an unlock code from Att and continue using with Tmo. Simply costs way too much in the long run to sign a contract with any other carrier than Tmo.
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How much is it off contract and how do I get one in my hands (Moto Maker prefered) Thanks for your help!
I feel like a TOTAL noob. I have NEVER bought a device at (Or before?) launch... I like to see the OEM's Quality Control at work first (the general public XD) I just have to get the MX though!

Kwongger said:
How much is it off contract and how do I get one in my hands (Moto Maker prefered) Thanks for your help!
I feel like a TOTAL noob. I have NEVER bought a device at (Or before?) launch... I like to see the OEM's Quality Control at work first (the general public XD) I just have to get the MX though!
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$579 for 16gb. Just wait until this Friday and go to motomaker.com to order. Simple as that.

Psilocin said:
$579 for 16gb. Just wait until this Friday and go to motomaker.com to order. Simple as that.
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Yikes! One more thing... Do you know if a new ATT customer could get the AT&T Next plan with the Moto Maker MX?

Kwongger said:
Yikes! One more thing... Do you know if a new ATT customer could get the AT&T Next plan with the Moto Maker MX?
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Have no idea on that since I didn't check those contract options. I think it should be possible.

Subscribing for Sprint info...
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I was just in a Sprint store and asked the manager when the Moto X would be released. He said it has already been released in limited quantities, there just isn't a known in-store date yet. He also mentioned a $99 and $149 on-contract price and $500 retail price.
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Dev Edition Worth Waiting?

Struggling with getting the Dev edition and just getting the Verizon version when motomaker hits Verizon. There's the obvious plus with getting the Dev edition but I'm not crazy about the color scheme. Thoughts?

I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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GR36 said:
I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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What part of the ATT bands does the Roger device support?

As far as I know they are one and the same device just with an unlockable boot loader
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GR36 said:
I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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Could you post a screenshot of the fixed WiFi gap?
Where did you import from? EBay?
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I imported from a friend of a friend.. But they are on eBay yeah. Factor in VAT if you importing as I got hit with £95 bill

If you can live with 16GB of storage, just import the Rogers version (for the unlockable bootloader).

ms0chez said:
Struggling with getting the Dev edition and just getting the Verizon version when motomaker hits Verizon. There's the obvious plus with getting the Dev edition but I'm not crazy about the color scheme. Thoughts?
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I hope so!

I'm really getting tired of waiting... I saw Sprint and US Cellular have been added to the list of unlock codes posted by Motorola, no word on Verizon that I've heard. I did hear Dev Editions are about 2 weeks out, but I haven't seen that confirmed. I don't really care about picking my own color, it'd be nice but... I don't mind the color scheme of the Dev Edition or just getting friggin' a black one. I just would like Verizon to say when Dev Editions will be available or Motorola or Verizon to say if the codes will be coming out ever. I really want to get one the beginning of this week but don't know which way to go myself...

dubyajaysmith said:
I'm really getting tired of waiting... I saw Sprint and US Cellular have been added to the list of unlock codes posted by Motorola, no word on Verizon that I've heard.
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Oops - I somehow missed that you're on Verizon. Both AT&T and Verizon have made their stance on unlocked bootloaders pretty clear.

GR36 said:
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I imported from a friend of a friend.. But they are on eBay yeah. Factor in VAT if you importing as I got hit with £95 bill
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So beautiful without the AT&T logo and the stupid WiFi gap.
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thedosbox said:
Oops - I somehow missed that you're on Verizon. Both AT&T and Verizon have made their stance on unlocked bootloaders pretty clear.
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Yeah that is true. I don't quite understand the difference of offering me a code or selling me a dev edition but I rarely understand them. If anything they'd have a bit of proof of me voiding my warranty. I'll keep my cracked G nexus for a bit longer I suppose, see what time tells.

The Dev edition wont be available direct from at and t or verison. It is just able to be used on the network if bought from moto/best buy etc
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GR36 said:
The Dev edition wont be available direct from at and t or verison. It is just able to be used on the network if bought from moto/best buy etc
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Really... Any word on when bestbuy will sell or if you're still able to use an upgrade / subsidized price with them? I guess either way that tips the scale in my scenario though. Ordering by 3PM will get it in my hands Wednesday, probably doing that.
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Yeah. I know if I get the Dev edition I'd have to go through moto which I rather do cause I rather moto profit from my $600 something than VZW. But I think I'm more leaning towards moto maker when it hits VZW and the only reason I'm okay with this is because I think I could live with the moto x without being a crack flasher.

Looks like Dev edition only available in black or white oof contract from moto. T-Mobile is now and only available direct also
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I'm holding out on getting the developer edition although I'm getting a little impatient since not much has been announced. I've been spoiled by my G-nex's unlockable bootloader

I own the black moto x on verizon and im in love with the phone. Ill most likely sell this phone on swappa and pay a few extra bucks and get the DEV edition when its out. I feel like a solid black or white phone would be easier to resell.

[Q] TMobile or AT&T (No US)

Hello,
I did some research recently, and this caused a little bit of confusion, so I'll post a quick question:
I'm trying to buy this phone on ebay (since I don't have a US CC card), which one should I get, the T-Mobile or AT&T version?
Requirements:
- to unlock it for Europe GSM
- install CyanogenMod
As of now I was going for the T-Mobile, since I've read it's easier to unlock the bootloader, but now I see that the CM is only for AT&T phones? Or am I mistaking?
Thanks!

It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Any source confirming this?
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scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Are you sure about this? Cause if you look it up, everyone is saying that the T-Mobile bootloader can be unlocked, and the AT&T can not.

RenSoAbrupt said:
Any source confirming this?
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Yes, me. I bought a T-Mobile Moto X in November and had to choose my carrier. I bought another Moto X last week and there was no carrier selection, I only had to choose between GSM and CDMA. Both times I received an XT1053 with a T-Mobile SIM in it.
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TheSaw said:
Are you sure about this? Cause if you look it up, everyone is saying that the T-Mobile bootloader can be unlocked, and the AT&T can not.
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I have no knowledge of the bootloader situation, only my experience with the purchases as noted above.
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As far as AT&T bootloader goes it is still not unlockable. When it will be? Nobody really knows if Motorola is going to add it to its Unlock program.

scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Appears they still technically differentiate between the versions, but are upfront about the T-Mobile version working with either carrier.

larry62 said:
Appears they still technically differentiate between the versions, but are upfront about the T-Mobile version working with either carrier.
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Yes, it does. Looks as if they changed it again. I didn't get that selection panel when I bought one a week ago. I guess you can still get the XT1058 model for AT&T. However, if I were buying one I'm not sure why I would order the AT&T model over the GSM model based on the description. I would get the XT1053 anyway.

scottjb said:
Yes, it does. Looks as if they changed it again. I didn't get that selection panel when I bought one a week ago. I guess you can still get the XT1058 model for AT&T. However, if I were buying one I'm not sure why I would order the AT&T model over the GSM model based on the description. I would get the XT1053 anyway.
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Maybe they were temporarily sold out of the AT&T model? There is some LTE band on the AT&T model not available on the XT1053, but if I remember that band isn't used currently by AT&T in the USA anyways. People might also want all that wonderful added value bloatware software not on the XT1053 and have the inconvenience safety of a locked SIM.

larry62 said:
...People might also want all that wonderful added value bloatware software not on the XT1053 and have the inconvenience safety of a locked SIM.
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Hmm...good points. :/ I'll take my chances without the software and lock.

Are All No Contract GSM Phones Identical on Motomaker?

Am getting close to pulling the trigger. Plan on buying unlocked GSM. On the Motomaker site, I get three choices:
1) Pure (I assume no SIM)
2) NET10 (I assume NET10 SIM)
2) ATT (I assume ATT SIM)
All cost the same (start at $499).
My question is, are all 3 the EXACT same model, with the exception of the SIM (or lack thereof)? Are these all The Pure Edition (XT1095)?

Only 1) is pure. ATT is a different model and not sure about net10. Google would probably get you the answer.

The Net10 or with TMO Sim will be the Pure edition.
The model will be XT1095
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Pure does come with a T-Mobile sim.

gotzaDroid said:
Pure does come with a T-Mobile sim.
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Or a Net10
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shamelin73 said:
Or a Net10
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It's an interesting method, but the one labeled as "Pure Edition" comes with T-Mobile SIM while the Net10 version isn't labelled as Pure, although I've seen some people say they're identical except the SIM.

1. It looks like the ATT Version has exactly the same bands and hardware as the Pure. Am I correct?
2. Does the ATT Version have an ATT Logo on it?
3. Is there ATT "bloatware"? If so, is it removable?
4. Is it locked?
5. Any other differences from the "Pure"?

Cyber-Anna said:
1. It looks like the ATT Version has exactly the same bands and hardware as the Pure. Am I correct?
2. Does the ATT Version have an ATT Logo on it?
3. Is there ATT "bloatware"? If so, is it removable?
4. Is it locked?
5. Any other differences from the "Pure"?
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2. Yes
3. Yes there is. Most of it, but not all.
4. Bootloader is locked. This is the the biggest issue/difference.

A friend of mine (who educated me about this phone; I want one too now), accidentally ordered the ATT when she really wanted the Pure. She hasn't received it yet (it should get to her in a few days). The problem is, she really needs a new phone (her old one is dying).
Can she accept the new one, and call Moto to "swap" it for the Pure? Will they let her use the ATT one until the Pure arrives?

Cyber-Anna said:
A friend of mine (who educated me about this phone; I want one too now), accidentally ordered the ATT when she really wanted the Pure. She hasn't received it yet (it should get to her in a few days). The problem is, she really needs a new phone (her old one is dying).
Can she accept the new one, and call Moto to "swap" it for the Pure? Will they let her use the ATT one until the Pure arrives?
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No. But I believe AT&T does have a 15 day return policy. Or she can order a Nexus 6 from AT&T.

Cyber-Anna said:
A friend of mine (who educated me about this phone; I want one too now), accidentally ordered the ATT when she really wanted the Pure. She hasn't received it yet (it should get to her in a few days). The problem is, she really needs a new phone (her old one is dying).
Can she accept the new one, and call Moto to "swap" it for the Pure? Will they let her use the ATT one until the Pure arrives?
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If she ordered it contract free from Motorola she might be able to call them and explain the error. I mean, they do give you 14 days to exchange a MotoMaker phone if you don't like the design, so they might be willing to switch the model for her too.

Yes, she did order it contract free from Motorola.

She always has two weeks no questions asked to return it
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bongostl said:
She always has two weeks no questions asked to return it
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Yes, understand, but she would prefer to do an even exchange, as she needs a phone and she doesn't want to lose the cyber-monday coupon she used.

Order the replacement now, then return the other one in a week when the new one comes
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Cyber-Anna said:
Yes, understand, but she would prefer to do an even exchange, as she needs a phone and she doesn't want to lose the cyber-monday coupon she used.
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Welp, the only way for her to find out for sure is to call Motorola.

I have another idea. Is she "SURE" that she ordered incorrectly, or MAYBE they made a mistake? I'm pretty sure that if she tells them that she thought that she ordered the Pure, but they sent the ATT, that they will do an even swap for her! :cyclops:

Note 4 AT&T vs T-Mobile

If I'm going to buy one cash to use on AT&T getting the T-Mobile version is better? If I recall T-Mobile version has unlocked bootloader and AT&T does not, correct? Any other reason one better than the other?

Get tmobile version MUCH better for root than att

ShrekOpher said:
Get tmobile version MUCH better for root than att
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That's what I thought. Thank you.

T-mobile gets updates faster too
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Chocu1a said:
T-mobile gets updates faster too
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Actually AT&T version got 5.1 while T-Mobile is still on 5.02. However unlocked bootloader is the biggest advantage over the AT&T version by far. So many ROM options.

Armeniandave said:
Actually AT&T version got 5.1 while T-Mobile is still on 5.02. However unlocked bootloader is the biggest advantage over the AT&T version by far. So many ROM options.
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I agree about the bootloader, but T-Mobile released 5.1.1 on Nov 30.

Sorry actually meant to say AT&T got it Oct. 10th and T-Mobile November 30th.
In this case AT&T got it way before T-Mobile. I actually emailed T-Mobiles CEO
and asked him why we didn't get it after my friend on AT&T got it.
But you are correct in saying T-Mobile has it now!