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Get a Moto X on AT&T or T-Mobile?

Basically my old Sensation is screaming die and I have my eyes on the Moto X, but I can't decide if I should wait and stick with T-Mobile or switch to AT&T. Main things I'm considering:
I would like to use Moto Maker, which AT&T has for at least 2 months (according to rumors).
T-Mobile should be getting the black or white versions "soon."
T-Mobile's plans are $10-20 per month cheaper for my situation, assuming current cost estimates of the Moto X.
T-Mobile might have less bloatware (no carrier branding in the notification area).
I guess what it really comes down to: Is AT&T's network/user experience that much better than T-Mobile's to justify the increased cost, bloatware, and exclusive customization? While the weight of Moto Maker is definitely a personal thing, please let me know your thoughts on the difference in the networks? Having only used a smartphone the T-mobile network, I just don't know if there would even be a discernible difference.
Thanks! :good:

felisen said:
Basically my old Sensation is screaming die and I have my eyes on the Moto X, but I can't decide if I should wait and stick with T-Mobile or switch to AT&T. Main things I'm considering:
I would like to use Moto Maker, which AT&T has for at least 2 months (according to rumors).
T-Mobile should be getting the black or white versions "soon."
T-Mobile's plans are $10-20 per month cheaper for my situation, assuming current cost estimates of the Moto X.
T-Mobile might have less bloatware (no carrier branding in the notification area).
I guess what it really comes down to: Is AT&T's network/user experience that much better than T-Mobile's to justify the increased cost, bloatware, and exclusive customization? While the weight of Moto Maker is definitely a personal thing, please let me know your thoughts on the difference in the networks? Having only used a smartphone the T-mobile network, I just don't know if there would even be a discernible difference.
Thanks! :good:
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It will vary from city to city, but unless I was really strapped for cash, I'd pay $10 extra for AT&T. Here in DC, I'm always on LTE on ATT, but on T-Mobile I'd say I saw edge at least a couple of times per week.
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There is surprisingly little bloatware on the at&t model.
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linuxgator said:
There is surprisingly little bloatware on the at&t model.
Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk 2
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Good to know thanks! I guess my only worries with respect to the bloatware is the AT&T logo in the notification area and something about an app that constantly popups asking to use it when calling someone (or something like that, it may have just been speculation I read).

I was going to start a new topic, but this forum is essentially the subject I wanted to ask about:
I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile version of the Moto X because from everything I've read in these forums it's a bloatware-free device and has an unlocked SIM and (maybe) an unlockable bootloader.
I'd get the device to use on AT&T. What are the disadvantages of doing this (if any)?
-It sounds like there could be issues activating? Should I count on any such issues being surmountable?
-Will I receive over-the-air software updates?
-Will signal strength be in any way impacted?
-Will I have all the frequencies I need? I saw someone write that the T-Mobile version supports LTE bands 4 , 12 , 17 and the AT&T version supports bands 2, 4, 5, 17. It seems like in the USA AT&T only uses 4 and 17?
-What about 3G and voice signals?
-Using the phone overseas, say, Europe?
-Will any of this affect battery life compared with just using an AT&T phone on the AT&T network?
-People have said that if you unlock the bootloader you void the warranty. Whose warranty--Motorola's? Would this include dropping the phone and breaking the glass? I was considering getting an extended warranty--would someone like SquareTrade care about an unlocked bootloader if physical damage occurred?
Lastly, people have said that the AT&T version of the phone is not bad in terms of bloatware. Does anyone think it makes more sense to just get the AT&T version of the phone?
That's a lot of questions. Any insight into any of them will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

This might help you guys to decide:
The reason T-Mobile users need to get this model is because it's the only Moto X which supports T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 network on the AWS band. The AT&T-compatible Moto X supports T-Mobile's LTE, but not the HSPA band, which means that if you fall off of LTE you'll be in T-Mobile's much more limited, slower 1900MHz HSPA+ 21 coverage.

likeybikey said:
I was going to start a new topic, but this forum is essentially the subject I wanted to ask about:
I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile version of the Moto X because from everything I've read in these forums it's a bloatware-free device and has an unlocked SIM and (maybe) an unlockable bootloader.
I'd get the device to use on AT&T. What are the disadvantages of doing this (if any)?
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Okay, I'll answer what I can here. I just got my tmo Moto X from the recent discount and I have lines with both T-Mobile and AT&T.
-It sounds like there could be issues activating? Should I count on any such issues being surmountable?
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I had no issues swapping either operator's SIM into my phone. It was SIM unlocked out of the box and the AT&T SIM worked great--native tethering even worked without a mod (sadly still see no solution for native tmo tethering).
-Will I receive over-the-air software updates?
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I would expect you to receive the same OTA updates as anyone running a tmo Moto X regardless of the att SIM.
-Will signal strength be in any way impacted?
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No. Many AT&T devices display more bars for a given signal strength than the same device on other operators (i.e. AT&T falsely makes signal look better than it is); I don't know if the AT&T Moto X does that or not, but it's just a display thing and not an actual difference.
-Will I have all the frequencies I need? I saw someone write that the T-Mobile version supports LTE bands 4 , 12 , 17 and the AT&T version supports bands 2, 4, 5, 17. It seems like in the USA AT&T only uses 4 and 17?
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My understanding is that those frequencies are correct. I get LTE on both operators just fine.
-What about 3G and voice signals?
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I haven't had any issues with either. Your frequency bands are all covered for everything AT&T does here in the US.
-Using the phone overseas, say, Europe?
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The AT&T version may be more likely to get LTE there--I am not familiar with the LTE bands used in Europe--but neither will have trouble attaching to the various European 3G networks (assuming you somehow convince AT&T to give you a SIM unlock code, or pay for one). Also if you include Canada in your calculations, a number of their networks will benefit from HSPA over AWS.
-Will any of this affect battery life compared with just using an AT&T phone on the AT&T network?
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It shouldn't.
-People have said that if you unlock the bootloader you void the warranty. Whose warranty--Motorola's? Would this include dropping the phone and breaking the glass? I was considering getting an extended warranty--would someone like SquareTrade care about an unlocked bootloader if physical damage occurred?
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Yes, Motorola's warranty. As for other stuff, you'd have to ask SquareTrade (or whoever) to be sure, but I don't really see how unlocking the bootloader would make them reluctant to replace your cracked-glass phone.
Lastly, people have said that the AT&T version of the phone is not bad in terms of bloatware. Does anyone think it makes more sense to just get the AT&T version of the phone?
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If you're buying unlocked anyway, I think the tmo version is an easy choice unless you desperately need a new nano-SIM (though I think AT&T will give you one for free if you drop by a store). The bloatware may not be that bad on the AT&T version, but you have to use some awkward hacks to get system r/w and the like. Of course if you're willing to do that, then you can kill the bloatware anyway.

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No. Many AT&T devices display more bars for a given signal strength than the same device on other operators (i.e. AT&T falsely makes signal look better than it is); I don't know if the AT&T Moto X does that or not, but it's just a display thing and not an actual difference.
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Funny you should mention that. The AT&T 4.4 build has 5 bars to display the cellular signal strength, the tmobile 4.4 build only has 4. It is quite odd they are not the same, wonder who wanted something different...

Steve-x said:
Funny you should mention that. The AT&T 4.4 build has 5 bars to display the cellular signal strength, the tmobile 4.4 build only has 4. It is quite odd they are not the same, wonder who wanted something different...
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I believe AT&T using five bars vs. T-Mobile's four predates their cheating on signal strength, but I could be wrong. I've only been a T-Mobile customer for about a year (and have now almost entirely phased out AT&T, woohoo!).
The lesson is that signal bars are misleading at best, meaningless and confounding at worst. Check the numeric signal strength if you're interested in knowing how good your signal really is.

Super-awesome reply! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions. It really helps my decision process (I'm feeling emboldened to go for the T-Mobile version), and I'm sure this will help others as well. Thanks again!
teiglin said:
Okay, I'll answer what I can here. I just got my tmo Moto X from the recent discount and I have lines with both T-Mobile and AT&T.
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As someone who just received his discounted Off-Contract T-Mobile Moto X, I have to recommend it. I got the $150 promotional discount and was curious myself as to which carrier version to buy. From all of the information gathered here on XDA, I made the choice to go with T-Mobile (and have no regrets, yet). I'd go into details on why I chose T-Mobile and such, but teiglin has already provided great (and accurate) answers to your questions.
So instead, I'll give you a quick recap:
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has absolutely no branding that I can find. Literally the only T-Mobile symbol I could find on the phone (software or hardware) was inside of it, on the T-Mobile Nano-SIM card.
- [From what I've read: motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215/] The T-Mobile version is essentially the developer's edition without the additional warranty coverage for unlocking your bootloader.
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has almost the same frequency bands as the AT&T version (except it also supports the HSDPA 1700 MHz band and doesn't support the LTE 850 MHz band)
Copied from GSMArena: gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php
2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
CDMA 800 / 1900 - for Verizon, Sprint​3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T, Verizon
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for T-Mobile
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - for Verizon
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - for Sprint​4G Network
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T
LTE 700 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for T-Mobile
LTE 700 MHz Class 13 - for Verizon
LTE 1900 - for Sprint​
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My Moto X usage:
I'm a former AT&T customer, having recently switched to Straight Talk through their BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) program. I was still using the Motorola Atrix with a Mini-SIM card purchased from Straight Talk (the AT&T compatible one).
After receiving the $150 promo code and remembering the $100 old Motorola phones trade in program, it seemed like the right time to make the move and upgrade ($500 retail down to $250 after rebates/promotions). I placed my order on December 5th and was told it would arrive by the 10th (came on the 11th due to snow).
Once I got my Moto X, all I had to do was cut my Mini-SIM card down to a Nano-SIM card. Templates can be found here: airportal.de/nanosim/. Aside from the network cutting in and out (lasted for the first 10 minutes or so), I've had no problems since. I have access to 4G LTE and everything else seems to be working fine (haven't tried tethering yet).
In the end, I'd recommend the T-Mobile version just because there is no branding and it works fine on the AT&T network as well.

Thanks for adding to teiglin's reply! Good information for anyone interested in this phone!
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As someone who just received his discounted Off-Contract T-Mobile Moto X, I have to recommend it. I got the $150 promotional discount and was curious myself as to which carrier version to buy. From all of the information gathered here on XDA, I made the choice to go with T-Mobile (and have no regrets, yet). I'd go into details on why I chose T-Mobile and such, but teiglin has already provided great (and accurate) answers to your questions.
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semaj1919 said:
As someone who just received his discounted Off-Contract T-Mobile Moto X, I have to recommend it. I got the $150 promotional discount and was curious myself as to which carrier version to buy. From all of the information gathered here on XDA, I made the choice to go with T-Mobile (and have no regrets, yet). I'd go into details on why I chose T-Mobile and such, but teiglin has already provided great (and accurate) answers to your questions.
So instead, I'll give you a quick recap:
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has absolutely no branding that I can find. Literally the only T-Mobile symbol I could find on the phone (software or hardware) was inside of it, on the T-Mobile Nano-SIM card.
- [From what I've read: motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215/] The T-Mobile version is essentially the developer's edition without the additional warranty coverage for unlocking your bootloader.
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has almost the same frequency bands as the AT&T version (except it also supports the HSDPA 1700 MHz band and doesn't support the LTE 850 MHz band)
My Moto X usage:
I'm a former AT&T customer, having recently switched to Straight Talk through their BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) program. I was still using the Motorola Atrix with a Mini-SIM card purchased from Straight Talk (the AT&T compatible one).
After receiving the $150 promo code and remembering the $100 old Motorola phones trade in program, it seemed like the right time to make the move and upgrade ($500 retail down to $250 after rebates/promotions). I placed my order on December 5th and was told it would arrive by the 10th (came on the 11th due to snow).
Once I got my Moto X, all I had to do was cut my Mini-SIM card down to a Nano-SIM card. Templates can be found here: airportal.de/nanosim/. Aside from the network cutting in and out (lasted for the first 10 minutes or so), I've had no problems since. I have access to 4G LTE and everything else seems to be working fine (haven't tried tethering yet).
In the end, I'd recommend the T-Mobile version just because there is no branding and it works fine on the AT&T network as well.
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I got the TMO version for use on AT&T. No branding at all.
I went to the AT&T store and they put in a new sim. I'm getting perfect service though I only see the 4G at the top. Wondering if I should also be seeing 4GLTE? Is there something else I need to do to get LTE speeds? Or am I already getting them and just don't see it?

Look here in xda, you won't get lte unless ATT registers your Moto with an imei from another ATT Moto. I had the same issue. There's a post here in xda where you will see what I had to do and who helped me
Rocking the new Moto X
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likeybikey said:
-People have said that if you unlock the bootloader you void the warranty. Whose warranty--Motorola's? Would this include dropping the phone and breaking the glass? I was considering getting an extended warranty--would someone like SquareTrade care about an unlocked bootloader if physical damage occurred?
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I remember reading somewhere a chat between a potential customer and a Motorola rep. The rep said that unlocking it voids the entire warranty with Motorola, hardware included. So you would have to check with whoever else you could get the warranty with.
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nelsonccc said:
I got the TMO version for use on AT&T. No branding at all.
I went to the AT&T store and they put in a new sim. I'm getting perfect service though I only see the 4G at the top. Wondering if I should also be seeing 4GLTE? Is there something else I need to do to get LTE speeds? Or am I already getting them and just don't see it?
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Sorry for the late response. I actually had to check my phone a few times just to confirm my thoughts before posting them here. I can't really comment on 4G and 4G LTE for AT&T, because I have Straight Talk. But from what I've read, I believe Straight Talk piggy-backs on AT&T's network as is, so I'd imagine it'd have to be similar.
I've been noticing the 4G icon in the notification bar also indicates 'LTE', although not all the time. There are times where I also see only the 4G icon without the 'LTE' symbol, during which speed tests have been much slower. Can't confirm what r_diaz13 posted, and I don't know if what he's saying applies to people on Straight Talk's network.

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Look here in xda, you won't get lte unless ATT registers your Moto with an imei from another ATT Moto. I had the same issue. There's a post here in xda where you will see what I had to do and who helped me
Rocking the new Moto X
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This is WRONG.
Totally NOT necessary to use an IMEI from a different LTE phone.
I just activated an XT1053 (the TMo version, which is SIM unlocked).
Put in an AT&T nano-sim card which I picked up from my AT&T company owned store.
Called in to activate the card -- but asked to talk to 2nd level support since I knew 1st level would NOT be able to help and likely tell me the same kind of dumb stuff I've seen posted about how to get the phone to work.
2nd level support was great -- and because I knew what I was talking about, it took less than 5 min to take care of what is necessary.
You will need to manually enter MMSC and MMS Proxy in the APN settings
MMSC should be:
-https://mmsc.mobile.att.net-
don't enter with the dash at front and back, the forum doesn't let you post what they think are links if you are new.
MMS proxy should be:
proxy.mobile.att.net
Just as an FYI -- these settings are BURIED (you cannot see them) on the AT&T version --
And these settings are NOT DOWNLOADED AUTOMATICALLY via SIM card (I thought they might be).
You can confirm whether you are getting LTE service not only by the indicator in the status bar up at the top with signal strength but by going into ABOUT PHONE from the Settings menu (scroll all the way down). Then in that menu, click on STATUS. Here you will scroll down and see the battery level, network signal strength and mobile network type.
If you are getting 4G only, it would should HSPA+.
If you are getting LTE, it will show LTE here.
Hope that helps.
I'm just a bit weary of seeing the wrong information on this and hope this helps others out. The TMo version works great on AT&T, you just have to enter the MMSC and MMS proxy manually and you should be good to go.

Did you have an LTE plan before? I'm telling you it is true. The xda member that helped me out is an att employee who works at a att store and he was the only one able to do it. He told me since I didn't have an lte plan before it wouldn't just pick up lte. ATT has to end other feature in the account. When I gave then the tmo imei, it shows up as gsm only, not lte.
So if you already have lte, you are good to go with just a simple sim swap. If you don't have lte already, you need to follow these steps. Nothing to do with APN settings or anything.
Rocking the new Moto X
Woop Woop

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Did you have an LTE plan before? I'm telling you it is true. The xda member that helped me out is an att employee who works at a att store and he was the only one able to do it. He told me since I didn't have an lte plan before it wouldn't just pick up lte. ATT has to end other feature in the account. When I gave then the tmo imei, it shows up as gsm only, not lte.
So if you already have lte, you are good to go with just a simple sim swap. If you don't have lte already, you need to follow these steps. Nothing to do with APN settings or anything.
Rocking the new Moto X
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This is wrong information -- hopefully people here read through to get the accurate information.
I did NOT have an LTE plan before (I had a Moto Atrix 4G, which gave me HSPA+ service).
When I gave them the IMEI from the TMo Moto X I purchased, I asked them specifically, what does it show in your system?
2nd level support told me it was a non-ATT version of the Moto X -- totally accurate.
She then knew exactly what settings were needed (as I noted above in my post) to be entered. These settings are not shown anywhere on the AT&T version of the Moto X (again, I know because I have 3 of those that I unlocked).
To be clear to anyone else thinking of getting the TMo version of the Moto X. You do not need to lie and give them some other IMEI. You simply need to make sure you have those settings input into your phone. As soon as they were entered, my TMo XT1053 showed LTE service.
Please do not continue to give out wrong information -- this may have solved the problem for you (to give a different IMEI), but it is totally not necessary. I have seen people asking about how they are supposed to get an LTE IMEI to activate a nano sim card and get LTE service. It is not necessary on the TMo version (now Moto says this is the GSM unlocked version -- which is really more accurate because it has absolutely NO BRANDING and no other software from any provider -- and is exactly the same as the Dev Edition except for the fact that the Dev edition can be bootloader unlocked and retain its warranty).

I have the Dev Version (same as T-Mobile) running on Straight Talk with AT&T. Other than one small configuration issue in the phone settings LTE is working fine.

T-Mobile Moto x question - activation

I know that tmobile moto x is not carrier/sim locked, read it in many threads here.
But does it need to be activated with tmobile sim first time?

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I know that tmobile moto x is not carrier/sim locked, read it in many threads here.
But does it need to be activated with tmobile sim first time?
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T-Mobile Networks
Well, I hope it's true that the T-Mobile comes with the Sim unlocked... I think I'll buy it tomorrow with the promotion of the cyber-monday extension.
But I'm a little worried about the T-mobile version network support, you see, most people, including me, of my country buy Unlocked ATT variants from the US, because here we only have these networks:
850 - Movistar / C&W Panama
1900 - Claro
1800/1900 - Digicel
I'm with Claro so I'll need 1900.
Since most of the ATT variants work with those bands, people over here buy those... While T-Mobile variants don't. But now I'm seeing that the Moto X from T-Mobile supports four 2G GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and comes with five UMTS bands (850/900/1700/1900/2100).
I'm not checking the LTE capabilities, since my country hasn't implemented it yet, and when they will, I'll probably won't use it after some years ($$$).
So, does this phone really works for me? I thought of buying an ATT variant but it seems some persons here (xda community) had problems unlocking the sim... (I don't mind paying to get it unlocked) One even posted that couldn't unlocked, used all the tries and had to put it on sale trough eBay :crying:
Well, what do you guys think of this...? Really, really crossing my fingers here :fingers-crossed: (Just checking the bands here, not much interested on rooting the phone, actually scared too. Don't wan't to hard brick anything )

Darel18 said:
Well, I hope it's true that the T-Mobile comes with the Sim unlocked... I think I'll buy it tomorrow with the promotion of the cyber-monday extension.
But I'm a little worried about the T-mobile version network support, you see, most people, including me, of my country buy Unlocked ATT variants from the US, because here we only have these networks:
850 - Movistar / C&W Panama
1900 - Claro
1800/1900 - Digicel
I'm with Claro so I'll need 1900.
Since most of the ATT variants work with those bands, people over here buy those... While T-Mobile variants don't. But now I'm seeing that the Moto X from T-Mobile supports four 2G GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and comes with five UMTS bands (850/900/1700/1900/2100).
I'm not checking the LTE capabilities, since my country hasn't implemented it yet, and when they will, I'll probably won't use it after some years ($$$).
So, does this phone really works for me? I thought of buying an ATT variant but it seems some persons here (xda community) had problems unlocking the sim... (I don't mind paying to get it unlocked) One even posted that couldn't unlocked, used all the tries and had to put it on sale trough eBay :crying:
Well, what do you guys think of this...? Really, really crossing my fingers here :fingers-crossed: (Just checking the bands here, not much interested on rooting the phone, actually scared too. Don't wan't to hard brick anything )
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If the T-Mo one supports the bands you need then why roll the dice with the AT&T version? If you really want the AT&T version and AT&T won't unlock it for you then you can just return it. If you want to get in on the sale price and don't want to risk anything then buy one of each so at least you will have the T-Mo one to fall back on. Just some suggestions. I am not really familiar with bands and sim unlocking and how it's done.

Darel18 said:
Well, I hope it's true that the T-Mobile comes with the Sim unlocked... I think I'll buy it tomorrow with the promotion of the cyber-monday extension.
But I'm a little worried about the T-mobile version network support, you see, most people, including me, of my country buy Unlocked ATT variants from the US, because here we only have these networks:
850 - Movistar / C&W Panama
1900 - Claro
1800/1900 - Digicel
I'm with Claro so I'll need 1900.
Since most of the ATT variants work with those bands, people over here buy those... While T-Mobile variants don't. But now I'm seeing that the Moto X from T-Mobile supports four 2G GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and comes with five UMTS bands (850/900/1700/1900/2100).
I'm not checking the LTE capabilities, since my country hasn't implemented it yet, and when they will, I'll probably won't use it after some years ($$$).
So, does this phone really works for me? I thought of buying an ATT variant but it seems some persons here (xda community) had problems unlocking the sim... (I don't mind paying to get it unlocked) One even posted that couldn't unlocked, used all the tries and had to put it on sale trough eBay :crying:
Well, what do you guys think of this...? Really, really crossing my fingers here :fingers-crossed: (Just checking the bands here, not much interested on rooting the phone, actually scared too. Don't wan't to hard brick anything )
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I am also thinking to buy one tomorrow.

[email protected] said:
If the T-Mo one supports the bands you need then why roll the dice with the AT&T version? If you really want the AT&T version and AT&T won't unlock it for you then you can just return it. If you want to get in on the sale price and don't want to risk anything then buy one of each so at least you will have the T-Mo one to fall back on. Just some suggestions. I am not really familiar with bands and sim unlocking and how it's done.
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Oh, just wanted to be extra sure that this version will work with the bands available here at Panama... Guess there's nothing weird with that variant of the Moto X having 5 UMTS bands instead of 4 like the others.
Anyway, I'll post my feedback later when I buy and get the product, wish me luck and thanks :victory:
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I am also thinking to buy one tomorrow.
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Wish you the best of luck bro! :good:

Guys... look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466&highlight=sim+network+unlock
From what the whole thread states the tmobile version is sim unlocked out of the box even through moto maker. In fact they are stating that there is little difference between the tmobile and dev edition.
So from the whole thread there I will pruchase tmobile. Verizon is unlocked but does not have the correct radios for my countries 3g network. Att does but I do not want to have to go through the hastle of unlocking it... even if its simple to buy a code.
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Darel18 said:
Oh, just wanted to be extra sure that this version will work with the bands available here at Panama... Guess there's nothing weird with that variant of the Moto X having 5 UMTS bands instead of 4 like the others.
Anyway, I'll post my feedback later when I buy and get the product, wish me luck and thanks :victory:
Wish you the best of luck bro! :good:
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Also go to the companies and ask what bands they work with expecially the 3g and 4g. I know first hand that Verizon does not support most of the bands in central america... Ive had verizon phones here and they only get 2g sometimes. And good luck with going to the companies... most people there have no idea... and they will stare at you with a blank look on their face when you ask about bands and will probably try to sell you a phone. So be patient.
Also... keep us updated!!

I have an Claro Chile phone using tmobile kit kat and works 2g, 3g, h/h+, 4g LTE bands without any issies

[Q] Moto x compatibility in UAE

Hey,
Guys need your urgent help.
I love this phone and have been waiting to buy it for a long time. I prefer the customized version from Moto Maker that is available in US only and not in other countries. My friend is due to travel from US to Dubai by end of this month and I can finally get my hands on the customized version.
Before continuing please bear that my knowledge on this subject is very new.
I have few concerns. I live in UAE where the freq bands by the network provider are 900&1800 Mhz for GSM, 2100 Mhz UMTS, and LTE 3&7 (1800& 2600 Mhz). My concerns are:
1. I doubt the 4G will work. I think Moto x supports a different band for LTE/4G than the one supported by network providers in UAE. So the 4g will not work for Moto X in Dubai correct?
2. If 4G does not work, will the Moto x function with the 3G service provided by network providers here?
I dont know if I understand this topic thoroughly, so let me put my concern in very layman terms - Will a Moto X bought from the Moto Maker store in US, work with UAE network providers 3G service?
I dont want to end up spending 400$ for a phone that wont function fast enough; problem is I want a wooden finish customized phone - one which isnt available in UAE.
Please please help soon!

deepak.motox said:
Hey,
Guys need your urgent help.
I love this phone and have been waiting to buy it for a long time. I prefer the customized version from Moto Maker that is available in US only and not in other countries. My friend is due to travel from US to Dubai by end of this month and I can finally get my hands on the customized version.
Before continuing please bear that my knowledge on this subject is very new.
I have few concerns. I live in UAE where the freq bands by the network provider are 900&1800 Mhz for GSM, 2100 Mhz UMTS, and LTE 3&7 (1800& 2600 Mhz). My concerns are:
1. I doubt the 4G will work. I think Moto x supports a different band for LTE/4G than the one supported by network providers in UAE. So the 4g will not work for Moto X in Dubai correct?
2. If 4G does not work, will the Moto x function with the 3G service provided by network providers here?
I dont know if I understand this topic thoroughly, so let me put my concern in very layman terms - Will a Moto X bought from the Moto Maker store in US, work with UAE network providers 3G service?
I dont want to end up spending 400$ for a phone that wont function fast enough; problem is I want a wooden finish customized phone - one which isnt available in UAE.
Please please help soon!
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Just get Tmobile version customised. 3G will work, 4G wont and phone will be SIM unlocked out of box and you will be able to unlock the bootloader as well.
No need to worry about 3G.

Europe will soon get Moto Maker too! It is planned for Q2. The European Moto X's (XT1052) frequencies are:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100
LTE: 800/1800/2600
So if you can wait you can get it via Europe

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Funkym0nkey said:
Just get Tmobile version customised. 3G will work, 4G wont and phone will be SIM unlocked out of box and you will be able to unlock the bootloader as well.
No need to worry about 3G.
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Thanks a lot Funky..
I'm not aware what a bootloader is - a newbie to the tech side of phones or anything. A quick search reveals it to be a set of commands executed at startup/OS. Now, at the risk of sounding even noobish than I have already portrayed, my question is -
1. Will this unlocking the bootloader affect the Touchless controls?
2. Also, since the phone is not officially launched in UAE - I wouldnt be able to get any changes (like unlocking the bootloader or anything else) done.
Thanks for your replies mate. It really made my day. Will be ordering it in a couple of days.

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tommert38 said:
Europe will soon get Moto Maker too! It is planned for Q2. The European Moto X's (XT1052) frequencies are:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100
LTE: 800/1800/2600
So if you can wait you can get it via Europe
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Thanks for your reply tommer. I checked into that possibility - issue is the phone is significantly more expensive in Europe. It costs a good 150 USD more than US. Now 4G is nearly double speed as that of 3G I think. However, 3G speed is fast enough for me.
So the trade-off is between 150 USD or double the speed than what is enough for me. I chose to save the moolah instead.
Thanks for your suggestion.

deepak.motox said:
Thanks a lot Funky..
I'm not aware what a bootloader is - a newbie to the tech side of phones or anything. A quick search reveals it to be a set of commands executed at startup/OS. Now, at the risk of sounding even noobish than I have already portrayed, my question is -
1. Will this unlocking the bootloader affect the Touchless controls?
2. Also, since the phone is not officially launched in UAE - I wouldnt be able to get any changes (like unlocking the bootloader or anything else) done.
Thanks for your replies mate. It really made my day. Will be ordering it in a couple of days.
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If you want to keep phone stock, no need to unlock the bootloader. But unlockable bootloader will allow you to flash custom recovery and root the phone.
does not matter where you are. You will still be able to unlock the bootloader through Motorola site. All this is optional. T-Mobile version just offers you this freedom along with moto maker.
Just unlocking bootloader will not affect touchless controls.
From my Moto X, in your face!

I'll be working in UAE soon, are there any CDMA networks there? I'm on vzw here in the states and wondering if my Dev Ed moto x will work there.
-Sent from a nitroglycerine infused moto X... handle with care

tbh, I'm not sure if i the dev edition will work here. There are 2 providers here - Etisalat and Du. I suggest you check their specs.
I know that 4G will not work for sure. Honestly, I'm very uninformed when it comes to these things. Sorry cant help you much.

[Q] Using Moto Maxx (the global version) in the USA

Hello,
I live in Brazil and purchased the Moto Maxx (the global version of the Droid Turbo) yesterday - awesome phone, I got the 64GB ballistic nylon one (only one released so far).
I´ll be going to the USA in january, and I´ll be staying there for 6 weeks, travelling a lot in this period, so I was thinking of getting a prepaid plan with at least 1GB of data. From what I read, the Verizon version would not work here, because in Brazil the whole country uses GSM. I´d like to know in which carrier I should get this prepaid plan. According to the brazilian motorola site, the network specs are as follows:
Networks:
4G / LTE (Cat 4)
UMTS / HSPA+
GSM / EDGE
Bands:
LTE Cat 4 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17)
UMTS / HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Thanks in advance!

That probably can run any network in US I think....you got band 4 and 17 which will work for at&t and T-mobile
4G LTE shouldn't be a problem

Go with straight talk. Easy peasy and no carrier BS. Also, buy me another Moto Maxx and I'll pay you $75 USD over your cost. PM for details. Seriously. =)

Those freqs are perfect for AT&T or straight talk, completely covered across the board. I was thinking of importing one myself.

foxfire235 said:
Go with straight talk. Easy peasy and no carrier BS. Also, buy me another Moto Maxx and I'll pay you $75 USD over your cost. PM for details. Seriously. =)
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That would be around $1000 USD, prices in Brazil are really high compared to other markets, I guess the best is to wait for the mexican version that costs the same as Verizon.
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krabman said:
Those freqs are perfect for AT&T or straight talk, completely covered across the board. I was thinking of importing one myself.
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Just next week is the release here in Mexico, so I guess many people would be selling this also in eBay.
:fingers-crossed:

Yes, I was going to wait for the Mexican release. I was thinking of going south and getting some sun anyways so it wouldn't be a problem just to hop across and pick one up. I like Mexico so it would be win win for me.

Depending on where you are in the US, Cricket is now owned by AT&T and is using their network (including 4G LTE). They're also a pre-paid carrier and have a few tiers that offer different amounts of data (1GB for $40, 3GB for $50, or 6GB for $60). Technically the data is unlimited, but after you hit the cap it's throttled to 2G speeds. Straight Talk does the same thing, but they only offer 2.5GB for $45 last I checked. So you have a couple options.

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Just so you know: the moto maxx does not come with the some of the droid features, like the command center or droid zap. Not that I miss those things.

Does this phone support the Moto Suite/Moto Voice like on the 2014 MotoX and Droid Turbo?

l_stevens said:
Does this phone support the Moto Suite/Moto Voice like on the 2014 MotoX and Droid Turbo?
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Yes, it does.

This would be an ideal phone for me, but I worry than there would be no warranty. Also, how fast will it get Android Updates?

l_stevens said:
This would be an ideal phone for me, but I worry than there would be no warranty. Also, how fast will it get Android Updates?
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Motorola is a company that works fast on updates, they already have the Lollipop for Moto X and Moto G, so probably the Turbo/Maxx also have the update already done, just waiting for the global release.
The warranty is something that you should ask, I mean, there are a lot of companies that now do their products as global warranty, meaning that it doesn't matter when you buy the device or where you are, you can always take it to their offices for any issue and they should resolve it; but again, is better to ask first.

I just put it on my credit card which will places a one year warranty on it no matter what the manufacturer might be.

Moto Maxx root?
Is rooting the Moto Maxx going to be the same exact situation for Droid Turbo since its the same phone? Or are the Moto Maxx's unlocked and easy to root and whatnot? This is the only reason I would get a Moto Maxx. Im thinking of purchasing one alongside a Nexus 6 to compare all 3 and develop some apps Ive been trying to get up and running for months.

Thanks a lot for all the replies. think I´ll be going with straight talk.
I´ve been running the moto max for 5 days now, I´ll be glad to answer any questions I can about this phone.

mrnakashima said:
Thanks a lot for all the replies. think I´ll be going with straight talk.
I´ve been running the moto max for 5 days now, I´ll be glad to answer any questions I can about this phone.
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This please?.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/mic-test-loud-environment-t2934741
:fingers-crossed:

mrnakashima said:
Thanks a lot for all the replies. think I´ll be going with straight talk.
I´ve been running the moto max for 5 days now, I´ll be glad to answer any questions I can about this phone.
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Have you attempted oem unlock?

krabman said:
Have you attempted oem unlock?
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I have not.

mrnakashima said:
I have not.
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Would you try it for the sake of science?.

So when is the Moto Maxx out in Mexico? Anyone know any exporters or companies that would send from Brazil/Mexico to the Netherlands...

US Moto X used Overseas?

OK... So I have spent what seems like days trying to research and figure this out so i hope someone here can set me straight.
I will be travelling to New Zealand in the next few weeks and will be spending six months there. I would like to bring one of the extra phones I have with me. I have a VZW Moto X 1060 and can get my hands on a Moto X 1053 pretty easily. Will either of these phones work in NZ? Any issues I might encounter, i.e., only 3g or something like that?
I would prefer to use the XT1060 because I already have it and has the bamboo back.
Any insight would be great! Thanks!

The XT1053 would work better most likely, but the XT1060 would probably also work. The best thing to do would be to look at the carrier frequencies/bands there, and compare them to the bands that the phones support.
Sent from my Nexus 6

HTC-OH_SNAP said:
OK... So I have spent what seems like days trying to research and figure this out so i hope someone here can set me straight.
I will be travelling to New Zealand in the next few weeks and will be spending six months there. I would like to bring one of the extra phones I have with me. I have a VZW Moto X 1060 and can get my hands on a Moto X 1053 pretty easily. Will either of these phones work in NZ? Any issues I might encounter, i.e., only 3g or something like that?
I would prefer to use the XT1060 because I already have it and has the bamboo back.
Any insight would be great! Thanks!
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Go check it here! -> http://www.willmyphonework.net/
A heads up, just for curiosity I checked with the carriers available and its says you will only get 3g with the 1060
Good luck!

I can speak for 1053 - I own 2.
In UK on Three network with Three SIM it was always in 4G (no LTE) mode and that was plenty fast (up to about 15/16 Mbit/sec download). I then roamed (technically, no roaming charges in France on the plan I was on) in France ( Paris ) on Orange network with the same SIM and it was in 3G all the time with speeds up to 10MBit/sec download. So even if it is 3G only it can still be pretty fast.