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Dead Bionic...Not thrilled to be the first..

Hiya...
Rooted/Nandroid with Bootstrapped Recovery..
I was in the car today,device charged about 40%, noticed the Bionic (for the first time) spontaneously booted. Got the boot screen icon, then black.
Went home, pulled the battery, put in the dock, nothing. Battery back in, nothing.
I think I've eliminated the battery as the cause.
Called Verizon, level 2 tech, offered to send a replacement; I opted to go the the brick and mortar store in the AM so as not to wait for 2 days.
Three questions:
Any chance that this is software related? Rooting app or Bootstrap app related? I think not, as in the dock without a battery it should at least start to light up, no?
If I'm correct, am I in jeopardy of voiding my warranty as the phone's rooted? (Not that they could tell).. ?
Anything else to try b4 swapping the phone?
Thx
Alan

arcopress said:
Any chance that this is software related? Rooting app or Bootstrap app related? I think not, as in the dock without a battery it should at least start to light up, no?
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No, MOST* smart phones cannot run on AC power alone. They require some charge on the battery in order to boot.
*added the emphasis before someone comes running in because their OG Droid/Nexus One/RAZR/POS flip phone/whatever could run off AC power alone.
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If I'm correct, am I in jeopardy of voiding my warranty as the phone's rooted? (Not that they could tell).. ?
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Rooting your device may void your warranty. Most of the time if it's a physical problem and not related to software, the warranty will still be honored. However, it'll probably be an uphill fight.
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Anything else to try b4 swapping the phone?
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I'd try to get ahold of another battery. I'm willing to bet that yours is defective.

I thought that the Bionic would light up in the dock with the battery removed?
alan

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I thought that the Bionic would light up in the dock with the battery removed?
alan
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Why would it?
The dock is just an AC charger with a stand.

Try fastboot. Rsd lite. Fxz file
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With my Droid X and a dead battery the phone would have to sit about 5 minutes and charge before it would come on at all. Wall charger, not USB via computer.
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its true that the bionic will have to charge for at least a couple minuets to turn back on. i have run mine totally dead and it will not power up untill it has charged for at least three to five plus minuets. although it will light up about three seconds after the charger is pluged in and even show the battery pic and charging. first thing you need to do is with battery back in the phone and a regular charging cable pluged in the phone other end, usb, pluged into your computer run adb or what ever you use and find out if it showes any devices at all being connected. you should be able to see this in the rds also. run rds app, then plug in phone using a rear usb port

jess086 said:
its true that the bionic will have to charge for at least a couple minuets to turn back on. i have run mine totally dead and it will not power up untill it has charged for at least three to five plus minuets. although it will light up about three seconds after the charger is pluged in and even show the battery pic and charging. first thing you need to do is with battery back in the phone and a regular charging cable pluged in the phone other end, usb, pluged into your computer run adb or what ever you use and find out if it showes any devices at all being connected. you should be able to see this in the rds also. run rds app, then plug in phone using a rear usb port
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yep, it's true.
I ran my bionic's battery dry the first day I had it. I was trippin out thinking it was broken or something.
After about 5-10 min of charging, I noticed it had a charging Icon.
I realized that I was upset over nothing.

I put it in the wall charger for the 10th time and noticed after about 10 minutes that it lit up with the boot screen, then the battery icon, which showed 0 percent... then it died. So it does look to be the battery. That's good news, I guess. Should I try to get a replacement from VZW, or spare the cross-exam about rooting and fork out the cash for a new battery?

If you want to spare yourself of the cross exam about root, get a new extended battery. Or if you firmly believe that the battery was defective to begin with, then stand your ground and ask that you be given a new one.

You should be fine taking it in. I would do what has been stated and just get a new battery because if it isn't that then it is a hardware issue and that isn't the roots fault anyways.

Also as a kind of FYI thing, Verizon does not do in store warranty replacements anymore(an exception being if you're within the 14day WFG period and the phone is ruled DOA). VZW, in store, does 5 day(overnight if you have insurance) shipping for free. If you want it sooner, you pay the shipping cost. Further, warranty replacement phones do not come with a new battery. They use the old phone's battery.
Where I'm going with this is always start with the battery in situations like this. That can be warrantied in store on the spot. Also make sure you're going to a corporate location.
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Like most cell phone batteries, they aren't designed to be completely drained.
I recommend charging it full, waiting tell it gets to about 10%, then charge it fully one more time.
After that charge, your battery should last you all day.
No need to waste money on an extend battery.
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Don't worry, you're not the first to have a dead phone. I had to go get a new one after three days.
Couldn't get booted past Motorola splash through any method, and an unlocked bootloader may have helped. But, in the past, and Verizon was happy to hand over a new one.
Wish I had more useful information, but I don't. So, good luck on getting your beast tamed.
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Update...
Went to the VZW store at 9... tech swapped out the battery for a new one. NO GOOD. Nothing.
Probably a good thing, as this way they couldn't void the warranty when they discovered it was rooted
Replaced the phone (17 days after purchase; had to get the mgr to approve a swap)..
Restoring apps as we speak..
Makes one wonder what's up with Motorola's QC dept.

Overheating issues?

I just (10 min ago) went to check the time on my phone, and when I grabbed it, it was extremely hot. When I turned it over (I put it face down at night so the notification led doesn't bug me) it was showing the battery charging screen except it was a question mark. The phone was plugged in since 10 pm (its 5 am now) and when it had cooled down enough I turned it back on and it said I only had 50%, even though it had been charging all night. Has anyone else had similar overheating issues, and should I return it for a new phone?
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Tried a hard reset? If ao, return the phone is what I would do. No way its supposed to drain that quick or heat up. Charging, navigating and playing music over BT and my phone is warm, not hot.

Had a similar issue about 3 weeks ago. Wasn't plugged in charging though. It was just sitting in my pocket. I thought it felt warm against my leg so I pulled it out and the phone was super hot! Turned the phone off immediately, let it cool down, and it hasn't done it since.
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The other day I was charging (stock moto AC charger) my battery (40%) and downloading stuff via 4g and mine got to 46 degrees C. I slid open the keyboard and put it in a opening of a vent that was blowing 60 degree F air. 1 hr latter battery was 80% +/- and i dl'd more stuff.
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You said there was a battery with a question mark. Was your phone booted up at this point, or were you in the 'battery charging mode'?
Sounds like the phone overheated, which can sometimes happen. You could try to get a replacement, but unless it happens consistently they might give you trouble trying to return it.

The annoying thing is, they say our batteries aren't supposed to be removed. It was nice being able to swap in a spare when my wife was done with her A855 moto Droid and same with having a "spare" incredible...
Anyone know the reason they made ours not come out?
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It is my understanding that they used a special type of battery to get it so thin. The downside to this special type of battery is that they are easily bendable, but explode when bent
As a result, they don't want anybody touching the battery and exploding themselves.
Somebody who is more knowledgeable in battery tech could probably give a better explanation.

Couple weeks ago I was using the GPS and had the phone on the Motorola cardock while plugged in (with a Verizon charger) to the car. Took the phone off to make a call and I literally couldn't touch it. I kept it on the side and opened the battery doctor app, told me the battery was 58C. Immediately pulled aside and turned off my phone. Stupid phone has the locked battery door also so I couldn't pull it off to let the battery cool faster. Worst battery door design by Motorola.

podspi said:
You said there was a battery with a question mark. Was your phone booted up at this point, or were you in the 'battery charging mode'?
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It had been booted, it wasn't in charge only mode. I forgot to mention I was on cm9 april 27 build. Its been working since then.
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Blinking Orange Light When Charging

I've been searching around and can't find a definitive answer for this one. Some posts suggest that the charging port has gone, others that the battery needs replacing and others appear to be dumbfounded. Does anyone have a definitive answer?
Basically the battery was low last night. I was on it still, it died and then when I went to plug it in, all I got was a flashing orange light instead of the usual solid orange light.

Did you pay attention to new sms or new email ? Because when i receiving sms or email on charging orange light starts to blinking.

It's definitely not that.

sabret00the said:
It's definitely not that.
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I think you had used your battery until it's empty? If yes, just keep charge it and it will be alright .. (in my case it is)
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kingchan123 said:
I think you had used your battery until it's empty? If yes, just keep charge it and it will be alright .. (in my case it is)
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How long did it take in your case? I've had this on charge for around two hours and right now for example, I'm not even getting the blinking orange light.
It started charging. OMG, I'm beyond in love right now. Thank you so much.

Watch out for overheating!

I was finally able to put my Nexus 4 down for a full charge last night (couldn't stop playing with it ) and set an alarm as usual. What I also did as usual was set the timeout to never and placed it next to me on the bed. After waking up a few hours late (6:15 alarm woke up at 7:30), I was surprised to see that the phone was very hot and the black screen of the Alarm was now turning a flickering white (like the display had been pressed against). I immediately turned off the phone and let it cool down (going so far as to pop it in the freezer for a few seconds).
As of now, it doesn't have that whitish faded look anymore on black as much, but the screen is still flickering. Not sure what went wrong, hopefully it will recover soon. If I pump the brightness to 100%, the horrible screen flicker returns and is present at lower brightness levels as well.
I've reached out to Google Play Support now, as the device now constantly flickers on increased brightness. It's strange that this issue occurred because besides the alarm running for an hour, DayDreams on Android 4.2 allow for the continuous powering of the screen when charging or docked, which would lead to this issue supposedly. My unit had a creaking in the microUSB port when I received it, something not present in my friend's unit.
UPDATE: It's improving at a rapid pace, though not fully recovered yet. I think it will be fine, though I would still like for Google to figure out the MicroUSB port weirdness. I just need to buy a daughterboard and I'll fix it myself Google!

after my first night with my nexus it kinda did something similar .. i had it charging next to me off my laptop and i woke up with the phone just off with the white battery showing it's charging i guess but my laptop was fully charged and my nexus was still at like 16% . . no clue what happened in the middle of the night lol

So you had it charging plus the screen was left on for a few hours and you're surprised it's hot?
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I haven't had any issues. It's charging perfectly fine for me, from USB and Wall charger.
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dmonger11b said:
So you had it charging plus the screen was left on for a few hours and you're surprised it's hot?
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No, it's not that it is just hot, if I pump up the brightness to 100% now the phone has a crazy flickering effect and looks terrible. Also, when I received the phone, the MicroUSB jack on in was a bit flaky (as in it would jiggle and make creaking sounds). It's a shame because that's the only fault, as my phone has no problems with rattling or the fit and finish of the glass :fingers-crossed:

dmonger11b said:
So you had it charging plus the screen was left on for a few hours and you're surprised it's hot?
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That should not be a problem. My GNex does this every night, sitting in the docking station.

You set screen timeout to never?? Why?
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just place it in some ice water. Always works.

I think he means he set his alarm to never stop not the screen
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dnlsmy said:
No, it's not that it is just hot, if I pump up the brightness to 100% now the phone has a crazy flickering effect and looks terrible. Also, when I received the phone, the MicroUSB jack on in was a bit flaky (as in it would jiggle and make creaking sounds). It's a shame because that's the only fault, as my phone has no problems with rattling or the fit and finish of the glass :fingers-crossed:
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Sorry but IMHO you kinda ask for something like that.
Why would you let the screen on, for charging, while you're asleep? There would be nicer / cheeper ways to have a night light.
Did you have the phone on the mattress, a heat storing surface?

dmonger11b said:
So you had it charging plus the screen was left on for a few hours and you're surprised it's hot?
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Mash87 said:
Sorry but IMHO you kinda ask for something like that.
Why would you let the screen on, for charging, while you're asleep? There would be nicer / cheeper ways to have a night light.
Did you have the phone on the mattress, a heat storing surface?
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No, I didn't leave the screen on overnight (although you can do this, DayDreams supports keeping the screen on when docked or charging). It was only on for about an hour or so, albeit it was ringing. LOL at the nightlight

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No, I didn't leave the screen on overnight (although you can do this, DayDreams supports keeping the screen on when docked or charging). It was only on for about an hour or so, albeit it was ringing. LOL at the nightlight
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Ok, thats something different. Was a bit misleading

dmonger11b said:
So you had it charging plus the screen was left on for a few hours and you're surprised it's hot?
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With charging and the screen on the phone shouldn't get hot at all, of course it's a different story when the CPU is stressed at the same time, but that didn't seem to be the case.
Edit: Now I understand:
My guess is that the Alarm went off and crashed, which caused the CPU to run at full speed for more then one hour.

dnlsmy said:
I was finally able to put my Nexus 4 down for a full charge last night (couldn't stop playing with it ) and set an alarm as usual. What I also did as usual was set the timeout to never and placed it next to me on the bed. After waking up a few hours late (6:15 alarm woke up at 7:30), I was surprised to see that the phone was very hot and the black screen of the Alarm was now turning a flickering white (like the display had been pressed against). I immediately turned off the phone and let it cool down (going so far as to pop it in the freezer for a few seconds).
As of now, it doesn't have that whitish faded look anymore on black as much, but the screen is still flickering. Not sure what went wrong, hopefully it will recover soon. If I pump the brightness to 100%, the horrible screen flicker returns and is present at lower brightness levels as well.
I've reached out to Google Play Support now, as the device now constantly flickers on increased brightness. It's strange that this issue occurred because besides the alarm running for an hour, DayDreams on Android 4.2 allow for the continuous powering of the screen when charging or docked, which would lead to this issue supposedly. My unit had a creaking in the microUSB port when I received it, something not present in my friend's unit.
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I'm hoping that you didn't pop it straight into the freezer, because that's exactly how glass cracks and breaks!
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ASavva said:
I'm hoping that you didn't pop it straight into the freezer, because that's exactly how glass cracks and breaks!
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No worries, I took Chemistry
Though Gorilla Glass really should be tempering their glass if it's to go on electronics, especially some of the newer laptops.

I have been getting random occasions when my phone really heats up for no reason. I mean its not when I'm doing anything on it or its charging. It happened today and got so hot that it was really noticeable. I ended up turning it of and leaving it for a few mins then restarting. Been fine today since.
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Whenever the alarm is going off without a timeout, especially if it's vibrating, the phone will overheat no matter what. This has been my experience with every single android phone I've owned, I generally don't use them for my wake-up alarms for that very reason. I've had my sensation overheat so bad before from that very cause and it put a bright spot right in the middle of the screen where the CPU is. Luckily T-Mobile is the easiest provider to get a replacement out of

MusicMan374 said:
Whenever the alarm is going off without a timeout, especially if it's vibrating, the phone will overheat no matter what. This has been my experience with every single android phone I've owned, I generally don't use them for my wake-up alarms for that very reason. I've had my sensation overheat so bad before from that very cause and it put a bright spot right in the middle of the screen where the CPU is. Luckily T-Mobile is the easiest provider to get a replacement out of
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I always turn off vibration on alarm, and my previous phones have never overheated unless there was something else eating up the processor. I'm guessing the new 4.2 Clock and Alarm may be the culprit, as it flashes the ring every second on alarm.

osugsxr said:
just place it in some ice water. Always works.
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...with some lemon juice...

dnlsmy said:
I immediately turned off the phone and let it cool down (going so far as to pop it in the freezer for a few seconds).
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You are kidding right ?

(Solved?) Nexus 7 smelled bad, battery life also bad since...

Hey guys, I used this search function, together with Google, but I can't seem to find any information, I know there was a thread like that, but I can't find it... So sorry if someone is annoyed ^^
(32GB 3G)
So I got my nexus 7 for a few weeks now, and four days ago it started to smell burned while charging... After this smell, battery life seems weird.. MAX. Stats are a few hours standby time (10) (lost 1% per hour with everything turned off) and 3-4 hours screen time until its discharged.. Before that, max stats were 1 day and 6-7 screen on time...
While charging, I am now smelling like a dog around my tablet and charger (which scares some people around me) but it doesn't smell anymore, and its charging properly.
So I'm not sure, if it REALLY is broken, or its just something I'm telling myself .. Because to be honest, if the battery would be screwed it should smell again and should charge like hell, or slow as a snail.., but charging is fine, like day one..,
I'm searching for people who had a smelling nexus 7 and what they've done.., and what consequences they had...
Thank you in advance
P.S.:To help myself, I'll charge it full (again) and make a MANUAL (fastboot) factory reset, maybe this helps... And also I can say it can't be an app, because I use the same I used when I bought it... So ^^
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Oh, and I'm 100% Stock, and I never dropped it..
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fushla said:
Oh, and I'm 100% Stock, and I never dropped it..
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Where did you get the device from? It may be worth just swapping it if you purchased from the Play Store.

dstryrwiz said:
Where did you get the device from? It may be worth just swapping it if you purchased from the Play Store.
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Got it from Media Markt, but its an act to get there, (for me) since I got no car ^^ its insured also... So I'll get a replacement for sure, but maybe I don't have to... I had a lot devices which smelled weird once but worked for years... So, maybe it just sucked too much power once.. The problem is, I can't live without this tablet so maybe I'll call MM and ask if they have one in stock to get.. But again, maybe I don't have to.. That's why I'm searching "smelling" people
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fushla said:
Got it from Media Markt, but its an act to get there, (for me) since I got no car ^^ its insured also... So I'll get a replacement for sure, but maybe I don't have to... I had a lot devices which smelled weird once but worked for years... So, maybe it just sucked too much power once.. The problem is, I can't live without this tablet so maybe I'll call MM and ask if they have one in stock to get.. But again, maybe I don't have to.. That's why I'm searching "smelling" people
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You must have some Labrador or Blood Hound in your DNA to be able to smell your devices charging lol.
On a serious note, have you tried watching the temps of the CPU and battery while its charging?
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CharliesTheMan said:
You must have some Labrador or Blood Hound in your DNA to be able to smell your devices charging lol.
On a serious note, have you tried watching the temps of the CPU and battery while its charging?
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Yup, everything was normal.. This is what scares me I did a factory reset now... After setting everything up, (open all installed apps, go through settings, sync, update apps, setting the phone up in general, one reboot), I lost 2%, which is average ^^ I'm testing now.. But its confusing
Edit: and while charging, it didn't smell... This is weird...
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fushla said:
Hey guys, I used this search function, together with Google, but I can't seem to find any information, I know there was a thread like that, but I can't find it... So sorry if someone is annoyed ^^
(32GB 3G)
So I got my nexus 7 for a few weeks now, and four days ago it started to smell burned while charging... After this smell, battery life seems weird.. MAX. Stats are a few hours standby time (10) (lost 1% per hour with everything turned off) and 3-4 hours screen time until its discharged.. Before that, max stats were 1 day and 6-7 screen on time...
While charging, I am now smelling like a dog around my tablet and charger (which scares some people around me) but it doesn't smell anymore, and its charging properly.
So I'm not sure, if it REALLY is broken, or its just something I'm telling myself .. Because to be honest, if the battery would be screwed it should smell again and should charge like hell, or slow as a snail.., but charging is fine, like day one..,
I'm searching for people who had a smelling nexus 7 and what they've done.., and what consequences they had...
Thank you in advance
P.S.:To help myself, I'll charge it full (again) and make a MANUAL (fastboot) factory reset, maybe this helps... And also I can say it can't be an app, because I use the same I used when I bought it... So ^^
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Going by your description of the problem, I would be leaning towards strongly suspecting that a component has (or is in the process of) burning out.
Does your Nexus smell when you charge it on either a different charger or PC USB port? If not then it may just be the charger is going bad - which in the big picture is no biggie (better the charger than the Nexus)
If on the other hand, the Nexus smells regardless of where you charge it, I would be seriously considering a warranty claim fairly soon. It may have been a freak occurance, but ultimately it has the potential to have drastically reduced the overall lifespan of your device - even if absolute failure has not occured.
Obviously it's your call buddy, but it shouldn't have happened in the first instance, and i'd be a bit paranoid that it could be a sign of worse to come.

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Going by your description of the problem, I would be leaning towards strongly suspecting that a component has (or is in the process of) burning out.
Does your Nexus smell when you charge it on either a different charger or PC USB port? If not then it may just be the charger is going bad - which in the big picture is no biggie (better the charger than the Nexus)
If on the other hand, the Nexus smells regardless of where you charge it, I would be seriously considering a warranty claim fairly soon. It may have been a freak occurance, but ultimately it has the potential to have drastically reduced the overall lifespan of your device - even if absolute failure has not occured.
Obviously it's your call buddy, but it shouldn't have happened in the first instance, and i'd be a bit paranoid that it could be a sign of worse to come.
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The charger was my second thought.. I don't trust these things ^^
Right after this smell accident I unplugged it, and now I'm using a new socket to charge on. No smelling on laptop and the new socket... But if the old socket was the reason, then maybe when I use it the next time it will go up in flames, or my nexus does.. I'm going to watch out the next days, if any weird behavior is going on I'm going to replace it... But one thing I won't do: charge it overnight
I'm going to check the old socket.. But I need to go into my room, I don't want others to see me smelling lol
Edit: no burned smell...
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Sooo, a little info for you and me.
After the full wipe yesterday, I'm on 28% left, with 24h standby, and 5h 48m display time, which is normal for me.. So it seems that the battery is fine (again?)
I'm going to charge it now, and as always, I'm running around the socket, charger and tablet.. I'll edit the post with the info after the full charge..
EDIT: no smelling after & while charging..
I assume it really was the socket I charged on, which I now toss into the trash..
Thanks to everyone who answered
And if I get weird behavior I'll send it in ^^
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