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Since the Z1 supports Bluetooth 4.0, therefore following the Android 4.3 update - does The Xperia Z1 now support Bluetooth Smart?
What is Bluetooth Smart
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Yes it does.
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ron76426 said:
What is Bluetooth Smart
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy
OK, so I borrowed a Beets BLU Bluetooth Smart Heart rate monitor and it would see the device in the available devices list occasionally (1 out of 4) but would not pair, I also borrowed a Garmin Premium HRM (ANT+) and could not get that to connect at all.
I could of course be doing something completely wrong especially with the ANT+ device as I can find no instructions on home to pair the device
instructions or help with either?
tallguy_uk_98 said:
OK, so I borrowed a Beets BLU Bluetooth Smart Heart rate monitor and it would see the device in the available devices list occasionally (1 out of 4) but would not pair, I also borrowed a Garmin Premium HRM (ANT+) and could not get that to connect at all.
I could of course be doing something completely wrong especially with the ANT+ device as I can find no instructions on home to pair the device
instructions or help with either?
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You might just have be having the typical 290 issues with Bluetooth where devices can't pair. Maybe someone else will chime in with more feedback, but I don't have any BLE devices to test.
Ok So I managed to get the ANT+ device to work by installing ANT Radio Service & ANT+ Plugins from the play store following guidance from this website
http://www.thisisant.com/consumer/ant-101/ant-in-phones/
Which was really helpful, especially as the Z1 is slated as being ANT+ native supporting but still needs additional software drivers installed, but there is nothing on Sony's documentation to drive you to this conclusion.
As for the Bluetooth 4.0/Bluetooth Smart device still no joy - Anybody any further ideas or is it just a case of waiting for a bug fix?
Install BLE Heart Rate Monitor from store. In the settings pair with your HRM. Don't try and pair through phone bluetooth settings. Bluetooth smart isn't designed to be paired like this apparently.
SeanyC said:
Install BLE Heart Rate Monitor from store. In the settings pair with your HRM. Don't try and pair through phone bluetooth settings. Bluetooth smart isn't designed to be paired like this apparently.
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Thanks for the info - partially works, connects but drops the connection routinely even after refreshing the Bluetooth system , as suggested by the app - probably needs a bug fix
This happens sometimes unfortunately. I had no problems on my Nexus 4.
I would like to understand whether it's possible to activate bluetooth 4 and bluetooth "classic" individually. The background: I want to use a bluetooth 4 tag in combination with tasker to automate certain things once the tag is within reach. I got a Texas Instruments SensorTag which is recognized by the Z1 and can be accessed via the TI software. Tasker is currently being improved to play with BT4 devices. The issue is that there is just a single bluetooth switch within Android, but of course I want to avoid the power hungry classic bluetooth and use bluetooth instead.
Any ideas if there is a solution? Maybe via an Xposed module?
Cheers,
Torsten
sumerland said:
I would like to understand whether it's possible to activate bluetooth 4 and bluetooth "classic" individually. The background: I want to use a bluetooth 4 tag in combination with tasker to automate certain things once the tag is within reach. I got a Texas Instruments SensorTag which is recognized by the Z1 and can be accessed via the TI software. Tasker is currently being improved to play with BT4 devices. The issue is that there is just a single bluetooth switch within Android, but of course I want to avoid the power hungry classic bluetooth and use bluetooth instead.
Any ideas if there is a solution? Maybe via an Xposed module?
Cheers,
Torsten
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It is already BT 4.0 as long as device you use has it too, no further activation needed. If you try to use it with device that has older version like BT 2.1 functionality of BT 4.0 will be downscaled to work with older version.
zimbashka said:
It is already BT 4.0 as long as device you use has it too, no further activation needed. If you try to use it with device that has older version like BT 2.1 functionality of BT 4.0 will be downscaled to work with older version.
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Many thanks! This sounds good! To be fully sure: once a BT2.1 device disconnects, BT falls "back" to 4.0? The longer I think about it I wonder whether it really makes a difference if a phone waiting for a connection is using BT2.1 or BT4.0. Do the 4.0 improvements have an effect on the power consumption before the connection is established?
sumerland said:
Many thanks! This sounds good! To be fully sure: once a BT2.1 device disconnects, BT falls "back" to 4.0? The longer I think about it I wonder whether it really makes a difference if a phone waiting for a connection is using BT2.1 or BT4.0. Do the 4.0 improvements have an effect on the power consumption before the connection is established?
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It is more like imposed limits by older version go away. Power consumption in BT 4.0 is more like: little power used to connect, pair and then it uses more power when large amount of information needs to be transferred (like opening higher bandwidth based on Wi-Fi that uses more power for shorter period of time). While discovering device awaits connection it consumes very little of battery on either 2.1 or 4.0. from what I can see versions of BT evolve in added functionality that is based mainly on transfer rate as well as better power management.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth
Hi there,
Has anyone already succeeded in connecting the "Polar H7" to the HTC One M8? The H7 is intented for iPhone, but it also works for some Android devices (Samsung S5 for ex.). The official "Polar Beat" app isn't compatible with the M8 device, but the app "BLE Heart Rate Monitor" should work with the H7.
But I can't see to get the H7 paired with my device. I Already tried removing the battery and wearing the H7 while trying to connect.
Anyone who can help me ?
I'm on a custom rom ViperOneM8 1.3.0 and using Kernel 3.4.0-ElementalX-0.6.
Thanks in advance
Mike
I'm in the same boat. I click to pair it and then it goes right to Last paired on:......
For a BLE HR sensor to work on Android, the app must specifically support it; not many of them do yet. If your app is compatible, you do the pairing from within the app; not from the main bluetooth settings.
(I don't have a Polar H7 but I do have a Zephyr HxM which is also BLE. I'm using it with ithlete).
Hi there,
I just wondering if somebody could help me with this issue: I have a GEONAUTE CARDIO BLUETOOTH SMART (4.0) sensor and it works with any Android phone, except with mine... earlier I used it with Galaxy S5, but I have tested with Galaxy Ace 3 and Lenovo S90 and it works fine. On the other side, my Galaxy S6 edge does discover and connect any other bluetooth devices (such as smartwatch, speaker, keyboard etc.). I tried nearly anything but without any result. I even think of buying a new heart rate sensor and a cadence sensor as well, but I am a bit confused after all. Do you have any suggestion regarding the issue? Or do you already use some kind of heart rate monitor or cadence sensor (even ANT+ devices)?
Any response would be highly appreciated, thank you in advance!
Kind Regards,
Balazs
Wondering if anyone else are having issues with the bluetooth on the note 5. One issue I'm having is the connection to my galaxy gear disconnects and reconnects randomly and after a few disconnects seems like the phone just ignores the gear and manual connection only works 50% of the time other times I have to reset the phone to regain connection. Other problem Im having, which I cant figure out, is my car bluetooth stereo connects with no issue to my phone but when using calling it uses the car speakers for output audio but the phones mic for input audio. Tried my S5 and the stereo works perfectly. Any suggestions? I've tried wiping caches, unpairing repairing devices. Factory reset (which worked for about a few hours but started the same issues again). I was thinking it may be software related but no software or updates were installed between the factory reset and having issues again.
Yes I'm having the same problem with my gear s2 just got off the phone with tmobile there sending me a new note 5 hopefully it will fix it I'll update after the switch
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Wondering if anyone else are having issues with the bluetooth on the note 5. One issue I'm having is the connection to my galaxy gear disconnects and reconnects randomly and after a few disconnects seems like the phone just ignores the gear and manual connection only works 50% of the time other times I have to reset the phone to regain connection. Other problem Im having, which I cant figure out, is my car bluetooth stereo connects with no issue to my phone but when using calling it uses the car speakers for output audio but the phones mic for input audio. Tried my S5 and the stereo works perfectly. Any suggestions? I've tried wiping caches, unpairing repairing devices. Factory reset (which worked for about a few hours but started the same issues again). I was thinking it may be software related but no software or updates were installed between the factory reset and having issues again.
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hi,
i have Note5 stock Rom, no root. I also have a Gear watch (still on Android.. not Tizen, rooted, Null 23 Rom) Been using the Gear watch since launch with my then Note 3, Note 4 and now with Note5.
Overall no problems at all. Only replaced the watch battery a month back thats all.
My Bluetooth connection to all my devices has been overall, very good.
I am currently using my Gear with Note5. The Bluetooth connection is very, very good. i cannot recall it ever disconnecting from Note5. (if in acceptable distance.. +-
10 metres or so.) Overall Gear is working 100%.
Point i am making is according to my experience, Bluetooth connection with Note5 works fine... no disconnecting issues.
I know this doesn't solve your issues,
but good to know.
Good luck
I'm wondering if I may have a hardware issue. If connected to a BT device (eg gear) and I move more than a couple ft from the device connection is lost. I'm very confused with my car stereo though, what would cause BT to split and use my phones mic and the stereos speaker not the stereo mic? Anyone ever experience a similar issue?
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I'm wondering if I may have a hardware issue. If connected to a BT device (eg gear) and I move more than a couple ft from the device connection is lost. I'm very confused with my car stereo though, what would cause BT to split and use my phones mic and the stereos speaker not the stereo mic? Anyone ever experience a similar issue?
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hi,
futher i can add,
i use Note5 Bluetooth
with following devices no issues. No disconnecting issues or any other issues.
Polor M400 Bluetooth Hart rate watch( re smart notifications) ,
Jam Bluetooth headset (streaming music) ,
Phillips Bluetooth dock.( streaming music.)
My Lenovo laptop,( Sending of pics, apps etc)
and use it to connect to my other Phone devices etc
Never had any issues with disconnecting.
Given that the devices are normally
about 2 meters apart when in use sometimes 10...12 meters.
I would suggest you get you device checked, as yes it does not seem right
that it disconnects so easy (when so near)
good luck
This might be an odd question but how would someone go about testing the phones BT, it connects just not stable. Only reason Im asking is I dont want to send it to samsung and have to wait 2-4 weeks and them to come back and say its working.
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This might be an odd question but how would someone go about testing the phones BT, it connects just not stable. Only reason Im asking is I dont want to send it to samsung and have to wait 2-4 weeks and them to come back and say its working.
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hi ,
yes ,i understand, you don't want to wait for period of time ,w/o your phone. !!!
I would have maybe done some "little tests" , to get a better opinion of the Bluetooth issue ??
eg. Test your devices in environment/area where there is no interference , ( no concrete walls ,buildings ...an open area .No electric cables/towers )
An open area ,field or another locations than your home or workplace etc .
See what is you min. and max. distance on disconnection ,if it only occurs more at your home than another area .? Get some facts and maybe make a small video to illustrate your issue ?
and show it to "someone" in the know ???
eg ..If you bought phone through service provider show video to them ./Samsung ( i have a habit that when i have a issue ..........................
eg. broken roof tiles/wall socket /a damage car part ......etc etc ....
i would take photo's/video ,(with my phone and keep copy on my phone ) and when talking to "somebody" in the know/or send your device to Samsung ,show them photo's /video of issues. It helps them to understand your issues better ,
and maybe give you better advice on issue ?
Also ,try to compare you results with somebody with similar device ???
Google is your friend ???
Google around ..???
you might just learn something in process ,that can help ?
Above is basics of what i would have done .
good luck
Bluetooth firmware v 4.2 and older versions .
danjnoble said:
This might be an odd question but how would someone go about testing the phones BT, it connects just not stable. Only reason Im asking is I dont want to send it to samsung and have to wait 2-4 weeks and them to come back and say its working.
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hi
further to my post above ,
i just want to add another issue you should be aware .
Bluetooth v 4.2 (Note5 firmware ) and compatibility issues with other Bluetooth versions 3.0 ,v 4.0 v 4.1 etc ,To give you a real life example .......
On my Gear watch i use to have Bluetooth v 3.0 ( ? )
i was using my Note 3 ( at the time ).Then my Note 3 was upgraded to Bluetooth v 4.0 ,
when i started having disconnection issues .Also in Bluetooth settings on my Note3 ,device my Gear would not show up in paired devices or stick in list .
When my Gear Bluetooth firmware was upgrade to v 4.0,
i found the disconnection issues was resolved and my Gear then showed up in pair devices
I am not saying this is the issue,
but you should be aware of what Bluetooth firmware your other devices are using ...?????
Is it Bluetooth L E ( Low Energy ) version 4.2 or v 3.0, v 4.0 ,v 4.1,
good luck
Hi again
So I got the new phone yesterday and so far everything is working perfectly no connection issues with the gear s2 it has been connected via bluetooth since yesterday afternoon when I receive the new phone
danjnoble said:
Wondering if anyone else are having issues with the bluetooth on the note 5. One issue I'm having is the connection to my galaxy gear disconnects and reconnects randomly and after a few disconnects seems like the phone just ignores the gear and manual connection only works 50% of the time other times I have to reset the phone to regain connection. Other problem Im having, which I cant figure out, is my car bluetooth stereo connects with no issue to my phone but when using calling it uses the car speakers for output audio but the phones mic for input audio. Tried my S5 and the stereo works perfectly. Any suggestions? I've tried wiping caches, unpairing repairing devices. Factory reset (which worked for about a few hours but started the same issues again). I was thinking it may be software related but no software or updates were installed between the factory reset and having issues again.
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i've got such issues after restoring Note 5. i did reset gear to the factory settings and paired devices...
Thanks for the replies. After doing some testing and what not the only thing I can figure is a bad BT module/chip in the phone. Sent it in through my service provider today. Will post results when I gets it back. Using my old S3 for now until I gets it back, its like my phone shrunk and got sugnificantly slower lol.
update for anyone who is wondering or having the same prroblems. I got my phone back from samsung today, they replaced the main board in the phone. BT seems is working good now and the phone seems snappier than before. Thanks for the help. ☺
danjnoble said:
update for anyone who is wondering or having the same prroblems. I got my phone back from samsung today, they replaced the main board in the phone. BT seems is working good now and the phone seems snappier than before. Thanks for the help.
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How the heck did you get your phone to/from Samsung that fast? I'm about to call TMO to get a replacement device...
rojovilla said:
How the heck did you get your phone to/from Samsung that fast? I'm about to call TMO to get a replacement device...
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I dropped it off at telus (my service provider) and they sent it in for me. only took a couple days, I was surprised it was that fast. I live in NL, Canada and everyhting is usually slow shipping here.
Hi guys,
I have a strange problem with my bluetooth wireless earphones B&O Beoplay H5.
On my previous Note 5 (bluetooth 4) they were playing great, but now on Note 8
(bluetooth 5.0) on pairing I get on the phone a message that "Beoplay H5 canceled pairing"
I hope that on Orego, where the bluetooth should be somehow upgraded
the problem dissapears, but for now if somebody from you knows the solution
please share.
Many thanks in advance for any help.
I have seen this before, bluetooth has problems with backwards compatibility some times, why? I dont know, happens with some devices, that is, I have had bt 3 that did not worked with some 2.0, 4.0 that did not with 3.0, 5.0 that did not 4.0, I have been observing this since my S3, and it has been worsening as bt protocols get higher, it seems that your note 8 having bt 5.0 will reject some, if not all inferior bt protocols I dont think oreo will fix this, as I said, I have seen this happening with gingerbread honeycomb, ice cream, kit kat, lollipop, marshmallow and now with nougat