Did AT&T add bloatware with the camera update? - Moto X Q&A

I probably just never noticed it but did AT&T add AT&T Locker to the Moto X when I installed my camera update? I swear when I got the phone the only 2 bloatware apps were Address Book and Visual Voicemail....am I going nuts?

iamjasonc said:
I probably just never noticed it but did AT&T add AT&T Locker to the Moto X when I installed my camera update? I swear when I got the phone the only 2 bloatware apps were Address Book and Visual Voicemail....am I going nuts?
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Yep.
But even with that addition, the only phone AT&T sells with less crap on it is an iPhone.

Ok cool. I disabled it but I could have sworn that I had already disabled everything that came on the phone then I saw that today and i was like whaaat?

att locker gives 50 gigs of free storage. might be worth it to keep it.

AT&T already knows enough about me I don't want even the possibility of them having access to anything else of mine

agreed. I only store media there.

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[Q] AT&T Bloatware

Can anyone list all the AT&T bloatware. Specially interested on whether AT&T Contacts Sync is present or anything else specially annoying.
Would've gotten a new contract already if AT&T didn't lock their bootloader...
finalarcadia said:
Can anyone list all the AT&T bloatware. Specially interested on whether AT&T Contacts Sync is present or anything else specially annoying.
Would've gotten a new contract already if AT&T didn't lock their bootloader...
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The X almost sports no bloat. It comprises of AT&T Address Book and MyAT&T. Both, in which I believe are VERY useful!
jyu87 said:
The X almost sports no bloat. It comprises of AT&T Address Book and MyAT&T. Both, in which I believe are VERY useful!
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Serious question, why on earth would you ever use AT&T address book.
There is also the AT&T logo, but the phone is pretty light on bloat ware.
eallan said:
Serious question, why on earth would you ever use AT&T address book.
There is also the AT&T logo, but the phone is pretty light on bloat ware.
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Honestly I have no clue. I guess there are some that like it and AT&T pushes it to those that don't know any better. At least all we have to do is hit the back button and never worry about it again.
In the event that I lose my smartphone and I need to use a dumbphone for any reason. My contacts will be there. If I need to switch out my phone to a dumb phone because I know I'll be out and active, I'll have all NY contacts without having to worry. I used it when I was on the water rafting and all my contacts were there. I had to make an emergency call that I would of never even guessed to program into the phone if I didn't have att address book.
Look, I know its bloat but its more there for an easy outlet in worse case scenarios. Its also free and included in your service.
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jyu87 said:
In the event that I lose my smartphone and I need to use a dumbphone for any reason. My contacts will be there. If I need to switch out my phone to a dumb phone because I know I'll be out and active, I'll have all NY contacts without having to worry. I used it when I was on the water rafting and all my contacts were there. I had to make an emergency call that I would of never even guessed to program into the phone if I didn't have att address book.
Look, I know its bloat but its more there for an easy outlet in worse case scenarios. Its also free and included in your service.
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I appreciate the answer, I was seriously curious. I guess the thought of going back to a dumbphone never even crossed my mind...
Haha no offense taken. I wouldn't use it as my primary source of contact storage either.
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I appreciate the answer, I was seriously curious. I guess the thought of going back to a dumbphone never even crossed my mind...
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At a certain point, won't you have an old smartphone you can use? I mean, you can buy an old used one for nothing.
And even a dumb phone can be synced to your google contacts. I never manually re-entered a contact from my Razr to my Nokia S60 flip phone, to my first android phone. Sure, it required a data cable on the old stuff, but every one of them had a way to sync either with google, or with another app that could sync with google (I think I used apple's contacts to sync the S60 phone).

Potential Moto X Buyer

So I'm a Galaxy Nexus (Verizon) user and looking to get a new phone. I'm looking at getting a Moto X and I have a few questions about it. Mainly in regards to rooting and getting cyanogenmod up and running on it. I don't mind using its stock rom as it seems rather close to stock android, but I'm curious as to how hard is it to root a Moto X on Verizon and getting cyanogenmod on it and keep the special features like the shake to unlock the camera and the voice commands. Also how is the battery on the device (I normally stick to 3G and maybe web surf a bit and look at my RSS feeds through the day not a lot of really data intense apps.) Thanks.
I just got my Moto X a few days ago and found that I enjoyed the experience so much on it that I decided not to root. I have been rooting my phones for a few years and finally found a stock experience that I enjoy.
I don't see a reason why you would want to lose the amazing features that Moto X offers by switching to CM.
You can root the phone (there are guides around the forums for this) and add Xposed modules to modify some parts of the phone, however, any OTA updates will cause some headaches. With 4.4 around the corner for the Moto X I am going to hold off rooting for a while and enjoy what Motorola gave to us.
i.Design said:
I just got my Moto X a few days ago and found that I enjoyed the experience so much on it that I decided not to root. I have been rooting my phones for a few years and finally found a stock experience that I enjoy.
I don't see a reason why you would want to lose the amazing features that Moto X offers by switching to CM.
You can root the phone (there are guides around the forums for this) and add Xposed modules to modify some parts of the phone, however, any OTA updates will cause some headaches. With 4.4 around the corner for the Moto X I am going to hold off rooting for a while and enjoy what Motorola gave to us.
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I'm also a long time rooter/CM kinda guy, galaxy nexus, GS3 etc etc, and I can honestly say that the only reason I would root this thing would be to change the battery icon (aaagh I hate it so much)
But this phone is so so good out of the box, it's just not worth wasting effort trying...although it would be nice to drop a new kernel on it.
Best phone I've had so far.
grifforama said:
I'm also a long time rooter/CM kinda guy, galaxy nexus, GS3 etc etc, and I can honestly say that the only reason I would root this thing would be to change the battery icon (aaagh I hate it so much)
But this phone is so so good out of the box, it's just not worth wasting effort trying...although it would be nice to drop a new kernel on it.
Best phone I've had so far.
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I will eventually root this thing... someday. I would also like a new kernel and I want to have Greenify back and some small customization options, but for now I am going to enjoy not troubleshooting some sort of issue that comes as a side effect of rooting.
I I just switched to the Moto X from the gnex on Sprint. I am very happy with my decision. The battery life is an enormous improvement over the gnex. I have always rooted my devices and installed custom roms, but I am yet to do so on the Moto X. It has a great stock set up. I will likely root once 4.4 is avaliable, but only to get rid of the sprint crap.
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That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
Vergil117 said:
That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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Moto Maker allows an option for 32gb, so you could wait for that on Verizon, or the Developer Edition is 32gb but you have to pay $549 for it.
Vergil117 said:
That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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We're hoping when Verizon gets Moto maker access 32gb will be an option. Right now you can get a 32gb developer version but you'll have to pay full price, ($550) and is only available in a weird white /black combo.
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Vergil117 said:
That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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Moto maker is a breeze... You do everything through the website, new line, upgrade or off contact. Much easier than I had anticipated.
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Came from a galaxy "nexus" to the X and love it. I finally did root it and have played with Xposed a bit, and I will probably never flash a rom again. Xposed let's me change all of the things that I cared about on AOKP like having a torch toggle in QS, and statusbar/navbar transparency. To be honest, if I didn't want to enable native tether privileges (still unlimited here), I wouldn't be rooted.
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I am a prior nexus owner and I spent month with the HTC one and then took it back because it was garbage. I have had my x for only a couple of days and I mist say I am EXTREMELY impressed. If you loved your gnex you will love this phone!
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swegin said:
I am a prior nexus owner and I spent month with the HTC one and then took it back because it was garbage. I have had my x for only a couple of days and I mist say I am EXTREMELY impressed. If you loved your gnex you will love this phone!
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HTC One was garbage? Wow.
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barondebxl said:
HTC One was garbage? Wow.
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I LOVE HTC but I had the one for five weeks and at least 1 out of 4 calls were dropped randomly or my cheek would hang up the call. I loved the look of the one and thought sense 5 was the best sense yet. However due to the dropped calls the phone just did not work for me.
I have talked to others that returned the phone for the same reason
I wouldn't use the HTC one either. The sense UI is rather sluggish (I've used in the past before - HTC incredible and I've used the demo of the HTC one they had the verizon store and it was the same slowness), Not at all a fan of beats by dre/monster cables. And the button layout is kinda eh. Used to having 4 icons at the bottom with the main menu button being near the center.
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....but I'm curious as to how hard is it to root a Moto X on Verizon and getting cyanogenmod on it and keep the special features....
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Question for the group... Will rooting alone allow you to install CM? Is CM available to be flashed via safestrap?
I ask because -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...cyanogenmod-10-2-experimental-nightly-builds/ and -> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1060_Info seem to indicate its for Unlocked bootloader or Developer Edition. And since there is no way yet to unlock the non-Dev Edition's boot loader, it further appears its really for Dev Ed only. And all the roms that aren't a leak from Moto in the Developer sections here also state you need a Developer Edition X or Unlocked boot loader.
Vergil117, as far as rooting, JCASE has released ways to root the initial shipping rom version, and the OTA update for the camera fix. So that is easy enough. I have rooted mine, just to tether (I still have unlimited). As with other devices, if you don't have an unlocked boot loader, rooting after new ROM updates are pushed is uncertain.
Like most have posted, I think the X in its stock form is very nice, and I don't find a need to flash a alternate ROM. If you flash to CM, you'll loose the Moto customization like touch-less control, shake for camera, etc.
So I ordered a moto X through the Motomaker software on monday night. It still says est delivery by the 15 but it also says it hasn't shipped. Kinda worried.
Vergil117 said:
So I ordered a moto X through the Motomaker software on monday night. It still says est delivery by the 15 but it also says it hasn't shipped. Kinda worried.
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Same, I got to step 2 on Tuesday morning and that's been it so far. I'm hopeful we'll get our shipping notifications soon so we can get our phones before the weekend. But I know Moto probably got slammed with a bunch of orders on Monday so some of us may have to wait till next week...
Update to the shipping post. I got the fedex info and it should be here Friday yay.
Motorola's update system is way behind. When I ordered mine, over a month ago, It didn't say shipped until the morning it arrived and I didn't get a tracking number until an hour or so after I had already received the device.
But it arrived the day they said it would... I'd rather the info be late instead of the phone
Moto X rocking 4.4
Oh I know the feeling, Fedex was being lazy yesterday with my order. I live in a gated apartment building, the main lobby is like right next to the door to the building. I honestly think they saw the door and said oh no one here and went away. So I had to call them and tell them to drop it off at a fedex store.

This phone reminded me why I don't buy from carriers

Seriously, this is a nightmare. AT&T logo in the status bar, HEAPS of bloatware, persistent WiFi connected notification for some reason, and a nice tramp stamp.
If there is one thing I wish Samsung would do like HTC, it is selling straight to me untarnished from their store.
This one is going back.
I agree.
For me it gets worse when they lock the bootloader and make it nearly impossible to escape the bloat. I'll deal with it and disable most of the problems, but I don't understand it.
Honestly what is the point of the Wifi notification.
Hippoman13 said:
I agree.
For me it gets worse when they lock the bootloader and make it nearly impossible to escape the bloat. I'll deal with it and disable most of the problems, but I don't understand it.
Honestly what is the point of the Wifi notification.
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Seems to make me more likely to turn off Wi-Fi, maybe run up that data bill
eallan said:
Seriously, this is a nightmare. AT&T logo in the status bar, HEAPS of bloatware, persistent WiFi connected notification for some reason, and a nice tramp stamp.
If there is one thing I wish Samsung would do like HTC, it is selling straight to me untarnished from their store.
This one is going back.
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Can you do screenshots of all the bloat if you still have it.
http://imgur.com/a/9miZw
There you go. Probably not all of it even.
Note the lovely status bar on the left.
Hippoman13 said:
I agree.
For me it gets worse when they lock the bootloader and make it nearly impossible to escape the bloat. I'll deal with it and disable most of the problems, but I don't understand it.
Honestly what is the point of the Wifi notification.
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Is it confirmed ATT variant has bootloader locked?
eallan said:
http://imgur.com/a/9miZw
There you go. Probably not all of it even.
Note the lovely status bar on the left.
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How did you ditch the S Finder and Quick Connect notification bar without root? Please.. do share... I hate that bar!
Goronok said:
How did you ditch the S Finder and Quick Connect notification bar without root? Please.. do share... I hate that bar!
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Oh, it get's even better. Samsung lets each carrier muck around with and make whatever weirdo changes they want.
On the AT&T variant they're toggle-able options, not so on the T-mobile. (I have both at the moment.)
http://i.imgur.com/hIafONG.png
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Oh, it get's even better. Samsung lets each carrier muck around with and make whatever weirdo changes they want.
On the AT&T variant they're toggle-able options, not so on the T-mobile. (I have both at the moment.)
http://i.imgur.com/hIafONG.png
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Hot damn, thats terrible and awesome all at the same time. I have a (useless) t-mobile version right now. Not sure if im going to wait the 40 days to unlock or return and grab an AT&T version tomorrow.
Goronok said:
Hot damn, thats terrible and awesome all at the same time. I have a (useless) t-mobile version right now. Not sure if im going to wait the 40 days to unlock or return and grab an AT&T version tomorrow.
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Between the two, I think T-mobile is "better."
I can't deal with text in the status bar. At all. Plus, T-mobile tends to be less locked down.
Honestly, I might send them all back. If i could buy one "untampered" from Samsung that would be MUCH better.
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Between the two, I think T-mobile is "better."
I can't deal with text in the status bar. At all. Plus, T-mobile tends to be less locked down.
Honestly, I might send them all back. If i could buy one "untampered" from Samsung that would be MUCH better.
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Oh I agree entirely. I'd prefer to keep the T-mobile, but sitting on it for 40 days before I could use it on AT&T is ridiculous.
The AT&T version is bloated and locked down and the International version has no direct ETAs. (most sites are saying end of April)
Pretty sweet...
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Hot damn, thats terrible and awesome all at the same time. I have a (useless) t-mobile version right now. Not sure if im going to wait the 40 days to unlock or return and grab an AT&T version tomorrow.
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Oh I agree entirely. I'd prefer to keep the T-mobile, but sitting on it for 40 days before I could use it on AT&T is ridiculous.
The AT&T version is bloated and locked down and the International version has no direct ETAs. (most sites are saying end of April)
Pretty sweet...
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Ugh, what a situation.
I got tired of my old LG G3, so I got an iPhone 6+, so far 10 days in it, I'm not missing my G3 at all, now I do like the S6 and I still have 4 days to decide if I keep the 6+ or change to the S6. With that said, AT&T includes so much crap on the S6, plus the locked bootloader and probably no root for a couple of months.... that I guess the iPhone will stay since 'it just works' and camera is just a tad less than the S6 and plus iOS 8.3 is just butter, it will probably have a jailbreak before the S6 is rooted.
And I already try to live with a locked Touchwiz when I had the S5 and I only lasted 1 month before changing to the M8 ( I really hate stock touchwiz).
Hey REDDIT buddy!!!!! I returned mine and bought a dev edition m9
I was kind of wanting the s6, but this thread makes me feel better about getting the at&t m9. I'm already unlocked running a custom rom and kernel.
Coming from the Nexus 6 and the M8 I sort of forgot how bad it is. So much unnecessary control. They get their damn claws into every dang crevice of this device. Makes me sick. Samsung is a global force and pretty much the face of android. They need to step up and tell carriers to back off. This is one thing I do wish they would steal from Apple.
And that god awful- persistent wifi notification. What in the entire f**k. Was that like an effort to make super sure customers know when their Wifi is on to avoid data charges? At least give people the option to stop it.
Oh, qq more. If you don't know what you are buying then don't buy it. Samsung phones on AT&T have been exactly like this for a long time, the S4 I have has all the same complaints you are referring to here. Don't act like it's new - it's expected.
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Oh, qq more. If you don't know what you are buying then don't buy it. Samsung phones on AT&T have been exactly like this for a long time, the S4 I have has all the same complaints you are referring to here. Don't act like it's new - it's expected.
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I'll go ahead and buy it and complain if I like.
I'm not acting like anything, just sharing my thoughts.
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Coming from the Nexus 6 and the M8 I sort of forgot how bad it is. So much unnecessary control. They get their damn claws into every dang crevice of this device. Makes me sick. Samsung is a global force and pretty much the face of android. They need to step up and tell carriers to back off. This is one thing I do wish they would steal from Apple.
And that god awful- persistent wifi notification. What in the entire f**k. Was that like an effort to make super sure customers know when their Wifi is on to avoid data charges? At least give people the option to stop it.
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I agree completely. I've used a Motorola device for too long.
It gets tiresome reading the same complaints about AT&T phones over and over. None of it is new at this point. And if you are returning your phone then go post in the forum for whatever phone you are going to have. This thread is beyond pointless. Once it's rooted existing xposed modules will take care of all the complaints you have, save carrier branding on the hardware.

[Q] Worth purchasing the Nexus 6 for Verizon?

Good afternoon everyone. I have been looking at several posts in regards to what people live/hate and some issues people have been having.
My situation is that I am grandfathered into Verizon's unlimited data. I work at an emergency communications center that does not give employees WiFi. So I give myself and my brother access though the hotspot and use about 40-50gb a month. I'm currently using the DE Moto X 2013 which has just gotten beaten down over time.
What I'm looking to find out is (and from what I have seen there are no issues) that I can root the Nexus 6 to give myself hotspot without Verizon's verification. Also looking to see if it's worth the phone. I have seen several posts with connection issues, but others saying they have never had any problems. I know Google is looking to put out new phones in August roughly, but two things concern me. My current Moto X is horribly slowed down even after wiping/installing roms which makes me want to make a purchase soon. The other issue is that I know Verizon has a horrible track record with working with Google and I'm scared that even if Verizon will allow a new Nexus type phone on their network, it won't be for several months later.
I appreciate everyone's thoughts on this.
generally, if you have questions, they get posted in the q&a/help section, not into general. people don't look there to help people or to answer questions. so I found your post here, in the wrong section, and just requested that a mod move your thread to the right section.
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generally, if you have questions, they get posted in the q&a/help section, not into general. people don't look there to help people or to answer questions. so I found your post here, in the wrong section, and just requested that a mod move your thread to the right section.
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This ^^
Moved:good:
That was a mistake on my part, posted though my phone and thought I clicked the Q/A thread. Thanks for the move
No issues with my phone on VZW yet. I haven't rooted it, but I don't see why one couldn't seeing as it can be unlocked. I got my from Best Buy, swapped in my nano SIM and off I went.
I finally got around to rooting my Google Play purchased N6 so I could use my VZW unlimited on a hotspot. I rooted using the simple method in Wug's tools and then edited the build prop line and rooboted. Works perfectly on 5.1.1.
I bought the Verizon Nexus 6 at full price to keep unlimited data and came from the moto x 2013 just like you. I just unlocked the bootloader, rooted and added the line to the build prop file and everything works great. I use the hotspot at work and home and it is working just fine. I didn't know if I would like this large of a phone but I actually do like it. I don't use my nexus 9 near as much though.
If you like the phone, get the phone. You will lose unlimited data before too long anyway, they are going to get rid of the plans altogether...
Awesome, thanks for everyone's help. Ordered one and an looking forward to it!
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If you like the phone, get the phone. You will lose unlimited data before too long anyway, they are going to get rid of the plans altogether...
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Why do you say that?
Don't get me wrong, UDP is the only thing keeping me with vzw, so that would be my exit queue.
OP, I got the Google places 64gb version, flashed the vzw build, rooted, enabled hotspot.
I used their build so I could get the vzw app and the visual voicemail and the signal is superior to my old note 3.
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Why do you say that?
Don't get me wrong, UDP is the only thing keeping me with vzw, so that would be my exit queue.
OP, I got the Google places 64gb version, flashed the vzw build, rooted, enabled hotspot.
I used their build so I could get the vzw app and the visual voicemail and the signal is superior to my old note 3.
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Because VZW is talking about getting rid of them, and unlimited plans are going the way of the dodo across the board with all carriers... Even Sprint is talking about getting rid of them. You are not grandfathered in in the sense that most people use that term. Your contract for Unlimited expired. They are still giving it to you, but they are no longer contractually obligated to since the 2 year contract you signed with them, expired long ago... You are getting it now more as a courtesy, because they haven't bothered to boot you off, but its coming.
Unlimited made sense years ago when people didn't consume much bandwidth on phones. Now when people are pulling down 50GB a month, they aren't going to let that go on forever...
NeoMorpheus1337 said:
I used their build so I could get the vzw app and the visual voicemail and the signal is superior to my old note 3.
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2 cups and a string had superior signal to my old note 3!
I found the note 4 to be a huge improvement, and the nexus 6 is in line with the note 4.
Restola said:
2 cups and a string had superior signal to my old note 3!
I found the note 4 to be a huge improvement, and the nexus 6 is in line with the note 4.
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I had the Note 4 on Verizon for 6 months, my wife still has one as I havent found a "sucker" yet to swap for a Nexus 6.
After using the Note 4 daily for all these months and going to the Nexus 6 it was like the Wizard of Oz when it goes to color,
effortlessly fast, The Note 4 lollipop update is a complete disaster, My wife's phone is 100% stock and its constantly stuttering and freezing up.
its junk.
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Because VZW is talking about getting rid of them, and unlimited plans are going the way of the dodo across the board with all carriers... Even Sprint is talking about getting rid of them. You are not grandfathered in in the sense that most people use that term. Your contract for Unlimited expired. They are still giving it to you, but they are no longer contractually obligated to since the 2 year contract you signed with them, expired long ago... You are getting it now more as a courtesy, because they haven't bothered to boot you off, but its coming.
Unlimited made sense years ago when people didn't consume much bandwidth on phones. Now when people are pulling down 50GB a month, they aren't going to let that go on forever...
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"Courtesy" is not on vzw vocabulary, there must be another reason. We are talking about vzw here, that company is so evil that the ceo breakfast includes a cup of baby blood.
NeoMorpheus1337 said:
"Courtesy" is not on vzw vocabulary, there must be another reason. We are talking about vzw here, that company is so evil that the ceo breakfast includes a cup of baby blood.
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Yeah, LOL.
Well, they just haven't bothered, is what it comes down to, but with even Spring throwing in the towel on Unlimited, these old plans won't last too much longer...
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Yeah, LOL.
Well, they just haven't bothered, is what it comes down to, but with even Spring throwing in the towel on Unlimited, these old plans won't last too much longer...
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As good as their service is, i would gladly jump to the 30 bucks plan on Tmo if they remove my unlimited.
No more locked down bootloaders!
deathshead said:
I had the Note 4 on Verizon for 6 months, my wife still has one as I havent found a "sucker" yet to swap for a Nexus 6.
After using the Note 4 daily for all these months and going to the Nexus 6 it was like the Wizard of Oz when it goes to color,
effortlessly fast, The Note 4 lollipop update is a complete disaster, My wife's phone is 100% stock and its constantly stuttering and freezing up.
its junk.
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Had the same issue. And lucky me found a friend that was looking to trade wife's n6 for another phone. Traded my Note 4 for it and never been more happy to do so. Great phone. Root was a must which was denied on Vz Note 4.
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NeoMorpheus1337 said:
"Courtesy" is not on vzw vocabulary, there must be another reason. We are talking about vzw here, that company is so evil that the ceo breakfast includes a cup of baby blood.
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The amount of people who still have an UDP are the minority. On top of that, the last time Verizon tried to make changes to the UDP people, they got a huge backlash publically and reversed their course of action:
http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...cides-unlimited-data-now-means-unlimited.aspx
I'm sure eventually Verizon will axe unlimited data, but by that time we will all be on Google Fi anyway .

Little late to the party, just picked one of these up

Called a bunch of stores within an hour of me before I found one that still had a brand new one in stock. Manufactured in April 2016 so hopefully no bootloop issues (fingers crossed). For the price... impossible to beat value wise. $4/mo more than one of the "mid level" offerings like the Galaxy J7 and annihilates those in all categories. Have a Diztronic TPU case and a PNY 128GB card arriving tomorrow for it, so far its been great. Was going to see about leaving it unrooted with all the bloat disabled/uninstalled but after having a rooted G2 for over 2 years and no ads... can't deal with the spam so I'll unlock/root it and go from there.
Also very cool to see so much support out there still for this thing. Hoping it lasts me as long as my G2 did. I did have a G3 briefly on VZW before I switched to T-Mo and that one was great too. Kind worried with the direction the G5 is going but anyway... Very happy.
Also the store that had this new G4 still had a new G3 as well... go figure. If they had a current price vs $400 not updated since 2015... I dunno lol. I paid $349 for this G4 which is a damn steal for what you get. I'll pass on the $700-$800 "flagships" because I don't need to render video for Pixar while playing Pokemon Go and telling someone they are wrong on facebook...
scottyd035ntknow said:
Called a bunch of stores within an hour of me before I found one that still had a brand new one in stock. Manufactured in April 2016 so hopefully no bootloop issues (fingers crossed). For the price... impossible to beat value wise. $4/mo more than one of the "mid level" offerings like the Galaxy J7 and annihilates those in all categories. Have a Diztronic TPU case and a PNY 128GB card arriving tomorrow for it, so far its been great. Was going to see about leaving it unrooted with all the bloat disabled/uninstalled but after having a rooted G2 for over 2 years and no ads... can't deal with the spam so I'll unlock/root it and go from there.
Also very cool to see so much support out there still for this thing. Hoping it lasts me as long as my G2 did. I did have a G3 briefly on VZW before I switched to T-Mo and that one was great too. Kind worried with the direction the G5 is going but anyway... Very happy.
Also the store that had this new G4 still had a new G3 as well... go figure. If they had a current price vs $400 not updated since 2015... I dunno lol. I paid $349 for this G4 which is a damn steal for what you get. I'll pass on the $700-$800 "flagships" because I don't need to render video for Pixar while playing Pokemon Go and telling someone they are wrong on facebook...
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Glad you got one. It's a great phone. Next time, stop by swappa.com/buy/lg-g4-tmobile. You can get a like new device for a greatly cheaper price. And if you have the replacement insurance through T-Mo like I do, 3rd party sold phones like these are covered 100%. Been doing this for the past 3 years now.
Will def check that site out thanks. But... After having used phones I'll do the new thing when I can. I have half a mind to pick that new G3 up as a spare or a gift or something.
But this is easily the best phone I have had except for maybe my Vzw G2 before someone walked off with it... No idea but that phone FLEW...
Got the Tpu case in just now (Diztronic like always) and the PNY card. Time to root and load up the music etc... Also ordered a Qi charging sticker for charging. Really really really hoping this thing stays solid and does not suffer from bootloops...
Edit... Rofl they do indeed want $400 for that G3... I paid $349 for this G4...
Great phone
Love this phone, got it two months ago for $250 brand new after haggling with customer care. Came from the Samsung S5 and it's quite a step up, I'm rooted using latest version of Turbo's Enterprise rom and it's night and day from stock.
Congrats on the purchase.
Yeah I just rooted tonight without incident. Still deciding if I want to go with a rom or not. Phone is fast as hell as is, I've got ads blocked, bloat disabled/uninstalled and I get 7GB a month of tethering for free from T-Mo already... Mainly rooted to get rid of the ads.
scottyd035ntknow said:
Yeah I just rooted tonight without incident. Still deciding if I want to go with a rom or not. Phone is fast as hell as is, I've got ads blocked, bloat disabled/uninstalled and I get 7GB a month of tethering for free from T-Mo already... Mainly rooted to get rid of the ads.
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Just so you know once you root you will have a hard time getting the phone sim unlocked if you need too.i have been going round and round with tmo the last 3 days trying to get mine sim unlocked.also they know every app on your phone as they told me i had to unistall one of the apps i had.
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Just so you know once you root you will have a hard time getting the phone sim unlocked if you need too.i have been going round and round with tmo the last 3 days trying to get mine sim unlocked.also they know every app on your phone as they told me i had to unistall one of the apps i had.
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Don't need it. Probably won't even Rom it.
what rooting method did you use?
Insurance
demoncamber said:
Glad you got one. It's a great phone. Next time, stop by swappa.com/buy/lg-g4-tmobile. You can get a like new device for a greatly cheaper price. And if you have the replacement insurance through T-Mo like I do, 3rd party sold phones like these are covered 100%. Been doing this for the past 3 years now.
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Hi Are you talking about JUMP? Because I didn't know that you can apply it to third-party phones. If it is not can you let me know, Thank you.
gillim74 said:
Just so you know once you root you will have a hard time getting the phone sim unlocked if you need too.i have been going round and round with tmo the last 3 days trying to get mine sim unlocked.also they know every app on your phone as they told me i had to unistall one of the apps i had.
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This is completely false. I've sim unlocked easily while bootloader unlocked and rooted. Just be stock based, not cm, and you'll be fine. I used the tmo sim unlock app right after I met the requirements and sim unlocked easily. I restored to cm immediately afterwards.
I recommend making a backup and flashing micro's stock zip build and trying the sim unlock app. If you're still having issues, check if you meet tmo's sim unlock requirements. (device paid off, device on the account long enough, enough payments have been made if prepaid.)
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bxmoney181 said:
This is completely false. I've sim unlocked easily while bootloader unlocked and rooted. Just be stock based, not cm, and you'll be fine. I used the tmo sim unlock app right after I met the requirements and sim unlocked easily. I restored to cm immediately afterwards.
I recommend making a backup and flashing micro's stock zip build and trying the sim unlock app. If you're still having issues, check if you meet tmo's sim unlock requirements. (device paid off, device on the account long enough, enough payments have been made if prepaid.)
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Mine wouldnt work and i got so fed up i sold the phone and switched carriers.tmobo lied to me over and over

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