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Goodbye AT&T!!!

So I have been using my lovely N1 with AT&T from the day I got it. Just popped my old SIM card into the N1, added a $15/month unlimited data plan and presto blamo it worked like a charm.
So last night I get a text from AT&T telling me I need to add a "smartphone" plan to my account. How do they know I have a smartphone? Anyway, I ignored it. Just now, I got a message from them telling me my phone plan had been upgraded to the minimum plan...$30/month. I am now paying $15 more a month for absolutely nothing.
Buh-bye AT&T...going carrier shopping. Good thing I am not in contract! That's what using unlocked phones will let you do!

Same issue. I guess they figured out how to find nexus ones on their network.
My thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630660
Anyone know how they do this ? can we hide the phone model from them ?

you imei is a digital trace. once you make one phone call or text from the phone, thats called billable airtime! your imei comes up in their system as what ever phone you are using in this case the nexus one. this is the same way tmobile knows how people are using a iphone

britoso said:
Same issue. I guess they figured out how to find nexus ones on their network.
My thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630660
Anyone know how they do this ? can we hide the phone model from them ?
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no way to hide the phone at all

T-Mobile is waiting with open arms

Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.

Old MuckenMire said:
Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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quoted for truth.

Old MuckenMire said:
Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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ahfunaki said:
quoted for truth.
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Everyones needs are different. I have wifi at work, home etc and have a premium GPS on my phone (offline maps).
Heres another one, actually an idiom.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Old MuckenMire said:
Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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Amen!
I was just about to dial whine one one and call a Waaaambualnce.
If you don't want to pay, change network. You'll still have to pay so get over it.
Besides this is a Nexus One forum not my carrier is crap forum. Two threads that are the same and keep floating to the top of the forum list like unwanted turds.
SC

Old MuckenMire said:
Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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Good thing your first post here is a bash.
About paying for data and not paying for data:
For me I don't pay for any data on any phone. Why? No 3G, and I mainly use WiFi.
P.S I totally agree with "A fool and his money are soon parted"
AND to top things off, if someone was saving for a nice and shiny phone, this (and you) have no right to tell them "if you can't waste money, you cant have a new phone" saving for a 530$ phone and paying ONE TIME is far different than paying 30$ a month for data, when it isn't even used or isn't to its full capacity.
jm2c

ScaredyCat said:
Amen!
I was just about to dial whine one one and call a Waaaambualnce.
If you don't want to pay, change network. You'll still have to pay so get over it.
Besides this is a Nexus One forum not my carrier is crap forum. Two threads that are the same and keep floating to the top of the forum list like unwanted turds.
SC
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Totally untrue. You can use this phone with a standard voice with T-Mob, how do I know? I do it.

The real problem is not the price but rather the fact AT&T charges you $30 a month when you can't even use their 3G on your Nexus One.

theomajigga said:
Totally untrue. You can use this phone with a standard voice with T-Mob, how do I know? I do it.
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I did this with my tp2 also. I didn't think it was worth paying $30 a month to use when I have wifi pretty much every where I go. I like the nexus a lot better, so I pay for the data for now. However, I rarely use the data, so it is basically $25 down the drain every month.
It's not a matter of being able to afford it, flametards... It's about perceived value for services received.

rossiscatch said:
I did this with my tp2 also. I didn't think it was worth paying $30 a month to use when I have wifi pretty much every where I go. I like the nexus a lot better, so I pay for the data for now. However, I rarely use the data, so it is basically $25 down the drain every month.
It's not a matter of being able to afford it, flametards... It's about perceived value for services received.
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If you're wasting that $25 that's your own fault. Do what you did before if it worked fine.
The point is AT&T or T-Mobile can charge whatever they like. No amount of complaining in here is going to help that. If you want to have a moan the moan on their forums where they might actually see it. ( http://forums.wireless.att.com/ && http://forums.t-mobile.com/ )
Your complaints about carrier pricing are nothing to do with the Nexus One.
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toooitwo said:
The real problem is not the price but rather the fact AT&T charges you $30 a month when you can't even use their 3G on your Nexus One.
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Bingo. This just happend to me yesterday as well. I guess AT&T figured out how to detect the Nexus. I've been paying the full data price for years, just switched it over 2 weeks ago because of this phone. It is pretty weak since its only on edge...

I definitely wouldnt be down for paying 30 a month for Edge, that sucks. Also, why do people have to go trash every thread like it was a personal attack on them, if you dont like his post then dont read it, this is a discussion forum. You act like it automatically directed you here when you went to xda, no, you clicked the link, so click back, there, youre safe.

JoshHart said:
I definitely wouldnt be down for paying 30 a month for Edge, that sucks. Also, why do people have to go trash every thread like it was a personal attack on them, if you dont like his post then dont read it, this is a discussion forum. You act like it automatically directed you here when you went to xda, no, you clicked the link, so click back, there, youre safe.
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Thanks.
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Your complaints about carrier pricing are nothing to do with the Nexus One.
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It is relevant to this forum since ATT only just discovered they can label the N1(EDGE) a "smartphone" and charge more money. Other phones with web support still get the EDGE pricing.

ScaredyCat said:
Your complaints about carrier pricing are nothing to do with the Nexus One.
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Did you see me complaining? No, you did not. I was simply saying it was possible to not have a data plan at all which was contrary to what you said, incorrectly, earlier. "If you don't want to pay, change network. You'll still have to pay so get over it."
Advice: if you want the thread to die quit posting in it. By the way, AT&T changing their policy on the nexus pertains to the nexus in general. Hence this thread's location in Nexus One General sub-forum.

theomajigga said:
Good thing your first post here is a bash.
About paying for data and not paying for data:
For me I don't pay for any data on any phone. Why? No 3G, and I mainly use WiFi.
P.S I totally agree with "A fool and his money are soon parted"
AND to top things off, if someone was saving for a nice and shiny phone, this (and you) have no right to tell them "if you can't waste money, you cant have a new phone" saving for a 530$ phone and paying ONE TIME is far different than paying 30$ a month for data, when it isn't even used or isn't to its full capacity.
jm2c
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I didn't bash anyone. Just stated my opinion based on the OP.
I hope not everyone here is as overly sensitive as you seem to be.

ahfunaki said:
quoted for truth.
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Normally i would agree with the 'it's only $15' rationale.
However since these guys can't use 3g, they should get SOME discount from the normal price.

Switching From Sprint to Verizon TOday!! (Question About Service)

Hey guys How everyone doing?
I see that you guys dont got a Q&A Section over here, so I decided to drop this here. Today i'm heading over to the store to switch from Sprint to Verizon.Needless to say Sprint service has only gotten worse over the years. Been with them for almost 10 years now (be 10 yrs in Janurary). AnyWhoo, I got a couple of questions for you guys, pretty straight forward, and Sorry in advance if this was the wrong place for this. But basically im coming from the EVO 3D (EVO 4G Previous to that) and I understand that the Razor is being released in early November, But I need to switch today cause between the TErrible 3G, and Data and such, I need my phone for work. My Co-Worker has Verizon and tells me that his Data coverage is amazing. So im thinking of picking up the Bionic, seeing that its the latest and greatest out right now on Verizon, But Ive been reading around for the past 24hrs that alot of people have there 3G/4G signal just cut off. Now I dont really lose my 3G (5 miles north of Boston) here, but the data speeds are just so slow that I cant really do anything most of the time. I got ROOT and all of that good stuff of course, but trying all the different Tweaks and Radios and such can only help so much. So my Question is, Is the Bionic Plagued with losing its 3G/4G signal out of no where constantly? I figured I'd ask you guys before I did anything today. Thats the one thing that worrys the most. Of course im also worried about root and such, cause over at the EVO 3D DEV section we got some great DEVin going on right now, But I really gotta focus on more important things than that right now. Any advice would be great fellas! I really appreciate it, and once again SORRY if this was put in the wrong place
Jon

I refuse to read this until you break some of this up into paragraphs....this is ridiculous.
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WOW.....Gee thanks for the help Brotha!!! that was so helpful in many ways. DO you really have that much trouble reading it? Jesus, DO you want me to add 10 periods between each word LOL?

I like my Bionic and all (and the coverage is certainly better than the ATT garbage I came from) but I would recommend seriously considering the Nexus Prime. (Screw the RAZR.) If you've been with Sprint for a decade, are you sure that you absolutely cannot wait another 2-4 weeks for a clean, unlockable phone?

Underwater Mike said:
I like my Bionic and all (and the coverage is certainly better than the ATT garbage I came from) but I would recommend seriously considering the Nexus Prime. (Screw the RAZR.) If you've been with Sprint for a decade, are you sure that you absolutely cannot wait another 2-4 weeks for a clean, unlockable phone?
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well that was my original intention. But the one thing i was worried about was AVAILABILITY for the galaxy nexus. I figured id would have to be a member of verizon in order to pre-order the nexus. So I thought maybe ill get the bionic for now until the galaxy nexus came out. But things with sprint has just gotten to bad lately. Its a tough decision, but now u got me second guessing LOL. that may be the best thing i think. Thanks for the feedback!!!

This is just my experience, but I have noticed the data has been dropping a lot lately. I lost data yesterday, but after I turned the phone on the off it came back.
My only issue with doing that is when I power down & restart I lose apps, which gets old. Then I have to download all again.
Its frustrating paying $110+ a month for something that loses data & forces me to reinstall apps.
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In. my opinion the bionic is a dirty phone and would recommend it to anyone the data is blazing fast and I very rarely have any data drops and I have to be in the middle of nowhere for that to happen. And with the fact that you can't add an extended battery to the razr this phone is just plain better.
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bionicmonkey said:
In. my opinion the bionic is a dirty phone and would recommend it to anyone the data is blazing fast and I very rarely have any data drops and I have to be in the middle of nowhere for that to happen. And with the fact that you can't add an extended battery to the razr this phone is just plain better.
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But the data drops aren't from spotty network, they're from a goofy radio. So, to me that is a toss-up. You can live in a prime coverage area, like me, and still have issues. The upcoming patch is supposed to fix the problem on all phones, but I will believe it when I see it. MOT has already backpedaled on the bootloader issue, so I would not be surprised to see them do so on a 100% radio fix.
As I said, I would not even consider the RAZR. I replaced the battery on my iPhone six times (no kidding), so the idea of not being able to swap a batt without disassembling the handset drives me nuts, even if it does take less than 10 minutes.
If you are able to get a Bionic now and trade to a Prime when they come out, then you really have nothing to lose. For someone who does not have that option, though, waiting a few extra weeks would be advisable IMO.

Another vote for waiting for the Galaxy Nexus. I really like my Bionic, but Motorola has already said, by releasing the Razr, that the Bionic isn't its priority anymore, and given the number of issues many are having with the phone and the locked bootloader, I'm tempted to say that if you can wait and get the GNex, you should. My 14 days ran out before the GNex was announced, but otherwise, I would've made the jump.
Also, skip the Razr altogether. It's a slightly improved Bionic with no user-replaceable battery. Don't bother.

I made the switch from Sprint to Verizon in July (to lock in the unlimited data plan - had to pay an ETF for that but it was worth it - I had an Evo 4G). Service and speeds are amazing, but as other posters have stated, I get the data drops like once a day. Usually, a flip to Airplane mode and back fixes the problem. I am sure it is bad radio code, not a bad network.
I started with a Droid Charge through Costco with the hope of being able to swap it out for the Bionic. As luck would have it, Costco eagerly replaced the Charge with a Bionic for both me and my wife because the Charge had such crappy bluetooth that would drop all the time for many of their customers. There was no argument when we went back in.
Now Bionic: I love the Webtop mode and for that reason would probably stick with Motorola, but my work may be different than yours. I'm typically in an office setting that has a lot of network lockdowns. Having a 'second computer' over which my employer has no control is very nice.
My concerns regarding the Nexus are two-fold: 1) I don't know if they will use the same crappy file system that they used on the Charge or if Google had complete control over the software down to that level of detail. It could also be that ICS uses a whole new file system - I just don't know - I am only pointing it out as an area I would research if I were making the same purchase decision as you are.
2) Development for the Charge was limited. With Google's impending purchase of Moto, I expect accelerated development on Moto products.
Finally, with regards to the Razr: Cool, but no replaceable battery means no battery pulls when things go wrong. I stand taller than 4'8" so an extra 5mm of phone thickness in my pocket is not an issue.

Hi Jon,
I've had EVERY carrier over the past few years, and I can say, Verizon is by far the best. In todays day in age where data is everything... Verizon brings it. Even 3G I would still sometimes get 1.5mbps, and now with LTE 4G, its amazing.
The price of Verizon is kind of "Eh" but, when I'm sitting on the Naval base (which gets horrific signal) and I can still pull 10-15mbps down, I can say I'm one happy guy.
The only thing that concerns me about Verizon is their policies on things, ie: Bootloaders, Rooting, etc. If I were you. I'd wait until the Nexus becomes available. If you go on craigslist, there are people willing to sell their old phone PLAN to you, as in those old unlimited data ones. HIGHLY suggest going there. I have had friends do that recently with NO issues.
Either way, As much as I love Sprint's phones (EVO 3D being OC'ed to 1.8Ghz) Verizon's reception is incredible nationwide If you have any questions, PM me!

I just realized that I neglected to address your real question. I recently switched from AT&T to Verizon, and the difference in network has been night and day. I went from getting 100kbps down on a good day with AT&T to consistently getting 500kbps+ with 4GLTE, and I've only dropped one call in the month+ I've had the phone. Switching to Verizon was among my better decisions I've made lately.

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Another vote for waiting for the Galaxy Nexus. I really like my Bionic, but Motorola has already said, by releasing the Razr, that the Bionic isn't its priority anymore, and given the number of issues many are having with the phone and the locked bootloader, I'm tempted to say that if you can wait and get the GNex, you should. My 14 days ran out before the GNex was announced, but otherwise, I would've made the jump.
Also, skip the Razr altogether. It's a slightly improved Bionic with no user-replaceable battery. Don't bother.
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I believe the Bionic is still a priority. They're advertising it during NFL games that it comes with free NFL network. The average user doesn't really care about a lot of what we talk about on here. Some people will prefer the bulk of the Bionic, and others will prefer the Razr.
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I would definitely recommend waiting for both the razr and galaxy nexus to be released, then going to the store and giving 5 minutes to each phone. I like my bionic, but I regret not examining it more closely before buying it. But with that being said, the battery life on this is amazing with the extended battery, and that is a critical factor for most. How would you like to have a droid razr that only lasts half a day? Sure it looks pretty, but what's the point if it's off half the time. As for the galaxy nexus, samsung is on fire now, so I have no doubt that it'll be the best phone you can have.
reverepats said:
Hey guys How everyone doing?
I see that you guys dont got a Q&A Section over here, so I decided to drop this here. Today i'm heading over to the store to switch from Sprint to Verizon.Needless to say Sprint service has only gotten worse over the years. Been with them for almost 10 years now (be 10 yrs in Janurary). AnyWhoo, I got a couple of questions for you guys, pretty straight forward, and Sorry in advance if this was the wrong place for this. But basically im coming from the EVO 3D (EVO 4G Previous to that) and I understand that the Razor is being released in early November, But I need to switch today cause between the TErrible 3G, and Data and such, I need my phone for work. My Co-Worker has Verizon and tells me that his Data coverage is amazing. So im thinking of picking up the Bionic, seeing that its the latest and greatest out right now on Verizon, But Ive been reading around for the past 24hrs that alot of people have there 3G/4G signal just cut off. Now I dont really lose my 3G (5 miles north of Boston) here, but the data speeds are just so slow that I cant really do anything most of the time. I got ROOT and all of that good stuff of course, but trying all the different Tweaks and Radios and such can only help so much. So my Question is, Is the Bionic Plagued with losing its 3G/4G signal out of no where constantly? I figured I'd ask you guys before I did anything today. Thats the one thing that worrys the most. Of course im also worried about root and such, cause over at the EVO 3D DEV section we got some great DEVin going on right now, But I really gotta focus on more important things than that right now. Any advice would be great fellas! I really appreciate it, and once again SORRY if this was put in the wrong place
Jon
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The radio CAN go wonky, but it seems to be only when you are in a mediocre LTE area or otherwise are switching between LTE and CDMA connections. If stability is more important to you than speed, I've found that if I set my radio mode to CDMA only, the connection is rock solid. As an added plus, the battery lasts MUCH longer without the LTE radio going!
EDIT: Also, the speed is very acceptable, even on 3G/CDMA. I had a Sprint Photon 4G and 3G throughput often didn't break 200Kbps in either direction. With my Bionic, i regularly get 600Kbps+.

Dude I've had the same dilemma. After my fiasco with Epic 4g Touch with terrible reception and slow internet (where my EVO was doing just fine) I left Sprint and signed my soul out to Verizon.
I also couldn't wait for Galaxy Nexus which I'm gonna get eventually.
Now. I didn't want to get an expensive temporary phone so I went for LG Revolution. God I'm glad they have that 14 days exchange policy. What a piece of junk.
So now I've got Bionic and I'm temporarily happy.
Now the important stuff.
I drive truck all over the country and all I can say about Verizon coverage is wow. I don't know what a dropped call is and I can watch Hulu almost everywhere.
The infamous LOS happened to me every now and then on that POS Revolution (Stock unrooted). Now I read that this is happening on Bionic too. So it must be the network problem then. Nothing we can do about that I'm afraid.
It didn't happen yet on my new Bionic but I've gotten it 2 days ago.
Rooted and de-bloated today so we'll see.
BTW. I don't believe Galaxy Nexus will come out according to leaks. (11.10)
Similar leak said Motorola Razr will come before (10.27) and now it's for pre-order on VZ website saying "Will ship by 11.10.11.
I think Galaxy Nexus will follow that pattern and it will go on pre-order 11.10 and will start to ship 2-3 weeks from that date.
But I would be more than thrilled if I'm being wrong.
reverepats said:
Hey guys How everyone doing?
I see that you guys dont got a Q&A Section over here, so I decided to drop this here. Today i'm heading over to the store to switch from Sprint to Verizon.Needless to say Sprint service has only gotten worse over the years. Been with them for almost 10 years now (be 10 yrs in Janurary). AnyWhoo, I got a couple of questions for you guys, pretty straight forward, and Sorry in advance if this was the wrong place for this. But basically im coming from the EVO 3D (EVO 4G Previous to that) and I understand that the Razor is being released in early November, But I need to switch today cause between the TErrible 3G, and Data and such, I need my phone for work. My Co-Worker has Verizon and tells me that his Data coverage is amazing. So im thinking of picking up the Bionic, seeing that its the latest and greatest out right now on Verizon, But Ive been reading around for the past 24hrs that alot of people have there 3G/4G signal just cut off. Now I dont really lose my 3G (5 miles north of Boston) here, but the data speeds are just so slow that I cant really do anything most of the time. I got ROOT and all of that good stuff of course, but trying all the different Tweaks and Radios and such can only help so much. So my Question is, Is the Bionic Plagued with losing its 3G/4G signal out of no where constantly? I figured I'd ask you guys before I did anything today. Thats the one thing that worrys the most. Of course im also worried about root and such, cause over at the EVO 3D DEV section we got some great DEVin going on right now, But I really gotta focus on more important things than that right now. Any advice would be great fellas! I really appreciate it, and once again SORRY if this was put in the wrong place
Jon
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The 27th was always the pre-order date for the RAZR, a few sites got it confused.

Stank0 said:
Dude I've had the same dilemma. After my fiasco with Epic 4g Touch with terrible reception and slow internet (where my EVO was doing just fine) I left Sprint and signed my soul out to Verizon.
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Same for me with the Samsung epic 4g touch. Just crap of a phone samsucks when it comes to udates on their firmware even my wife has the nexus s great software updates. Horrible firmware and software fixes from Samsung. Galaxy nexus will suffer from samsungs lack of updates for fixes and issues. Look at the Droid charge. I just switched from sprint 2 weeks ago and took over someones unlimited plan and bought my bionic happy now
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Also have HTC rezound coming too
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The 27th was always the pre-order date for the RAZR, a few sites got it confused.
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The leak shows the release date for Razr as 10.27.11 (Engadget) and it became available for pre-order that date. (or was it 29th?) the same way it shows release date for Galaxy Nexus as 11.10.11.
By way of extrapolation, Galaxy Nexus will be availale for pre-order 11.10.11.
And again, I'd LOVE to be wrong.

Trade in

Just curious if anyone has tried to trade in this phone at Verizon under their trade in program. Is it worth anything?
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Nope... my dad got a replacement though... they made that really easy.
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billney said:
Just curious if anyone has tried to trade in this phone at Verizon under their trade in program. Is it worth anything?
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It's worth $66. That's a little depressing lol.
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Acceptance_Page.aspx

Oh well, guess I'll have to wait until September and use my wife's upgrade to get a Droid Maxx

How about this?
I have had a few calls to service, the issue is that the 4Ghotspot won't download data to my PC(s) even though I can obtain data using the phone's browser or on tether. If I wait long enough the data will work (something like 10-15 minutes). This does not happen every time but often. If they delete my account and add it again everything work great, but in a few hours it may be messed up again.
The support person offered to send me a Razr, I told him to make it a Maxx, but he was stuck on the idea that he only had a Razr. So one is coming tomorrow to see if this solve the problem.
I will be amazed if this fixes the problem, but I figure it is nice to see them offer a different phone to help with the issue.
Their Network team is working on the issue too. I think an overhead application on their end is where the problem is, I have used a local application that tests the path from my PC to any Internet IP address, it show each IP address, the hop time, and data lost rate in both directions. The my PC, phone and the network hardware is working just fine.

billney said:
Just curious if anyone has tried to trade in this phone at Verizon under their trade in program. Is it worth anything?
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Why would I do something crazy like that? I know I haven't. I still love the phone, and my wife will concur that I only like technology for 3 months before I feel the urge to upgrade. I am getting itchy just thinking about my tv, **** now my laptop. The government is giving me a couple bucks. Hmmmm.
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Please hold for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience.
You are now chatting with 'Latonya'
You: Does Verizon have a trade in program?
Latonya: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Latonya: I will be more than happy to assist you with our trade in program.
Latonya: Of course, we do have a trade in program.
You: k
You: can you give me a rough est. on what my phone would be worth if I traded it in?
Latonya: I can send you a link to checking to see how much your phone is worth.
You: okay
Latonya: One moment please.
You: And if I trade in, do I have to sign a new contract? Or would I have to pay full price for a new device?
You: And as a Verizon employee what phone do you have?
Latonya: click here please
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Acceptance_Page.aspx
To clarify what you are asking, are you Verizon employee?
You: I am asking you, what phone you use
You: sorry
Latonya: That's ok.
Latonya: Right now I have the Blackberry tour but i'm about to upgrade to the Razr 32GB.
You: very cool
You: thank you very much for your help.
You: If I trade in my phone and I get another, then what?
Latonya: How did it work for you?
You: I have a LG Revo, and I love it, it's only valued at 66 for a trade in.
You: So I may keep it.
You: And just wait for my contract to term
Latonya: That is correct.
Latonya: Are you eligible for an upgrade?
You: I am holding my breath to see what Google does with it's purchase of Motorola.
You: Probably not
You: I think I have been a customer for 7 months
You: certainly not 2 years yet
Latonya: I can check for you if you like.
You: plus I have the unlimited data, so I wouldn't want to give that up
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sgschwend said:
How about this?
I have had a few calls to service, the issue is that the 4Ghotspot won't download data to my PC(s) even though I can obtain data using the phone's browser or on tether. If I wait long enough the data will work (something like 10-15 minutes). This does not happen every time but often. If they delete my account and add it again everything work great, but in a few hours it may be messed up again.
The support person offered to send me a Razr, I told him to make it a Maxx, but he was stuck on the idea that he only had a Razr. So one is coming tomorrow to see if this solve the problem.
I will be amazed if this fixes the problem, but I figure it is nice to see them offer a different phone to help with the issue.
Their Network team is working on the issue too. I think an overhead application on their end is where the problem is, I have used a local application that tests the path from my PC to any Internet IP address, it show each IP address, the hop time, and data lost rate in both directions. The my PC, phone and the network hardware is working just fine.
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Jeez, see if they will throw in a kitchen sink too. LOL. They have the MAXX. I don't like Verizon sales. You need to do research, or they will stick you with crap. Heard them telling a customer, that no companies do unlimited data. And he was trying to push the Ipad on the guy.

markapowell said:
Jeez, see if they will throw in a kitchen sink too. LOL. They have the MAXX. I don't like Verizon sales. You need to do research, or they will stick you with crap. Heard them telling a customer, that no companies do unlimited data. And he was trying to push the Ipad on the guy.
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There aren't any companies that offer truly unlimited data. Even Sprint recently announced that they throttle peoples data.

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There aren't any companies that offer truly unlimited data. Even Sprint recently announced that they throttle peoples data.
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I'm so happy that I have my unlimited data. 4g speeds and sometimes around 74GB for the month (I pay for the HotSpot) and never a drop in speed. People may complain about Verizon, but I challenge anyone to give me a truly better service than Verizon can. (The only thing that would cause me to leave Verizon at this point is taking away my grandfathered unlimited data plan)
Verizon customer service has gone down a bit, but still surpasses any others I've ever dealt with. Even when they had 3 outages (4g) in December, I made a friendly call and explained I was not happy with the fact my 4g HotSpot was proving useless for the month and a time I really needed it (out of town for Holidays). They gave me a $30 credit without skipping a beat.
T-Mobile has Unlimited 4g Service, which includes Tethering, for $30/month on a prepaid plan. That's the BEST plan/price for max data. But, the 4g speeds are only for the first 5gb, after that, it goes to 2g, which is basically Dial-Up speed. In other words, some major throttling going on there.
Oh, and to add something to go with the OP... eBay or Craigslist your phone(s). Never trade in. You will never get what the phone is worth on the trade in. My Droid 2 Global was worth $56 trade-in. I got $220 on eBay...
-Cybie

Cybies right. I've sold old ass phones on ebay. Sold the old first gen razor for 25$ and got 40$ for an old cingular sliding keyboard.
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There aren't any companies that offer truly unlimited data. Even Sprint recently announced that they throttle peoples data.
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I've been on Verizon unlimited for years and I've had 4g for about 7 months. I never thought I was affected by throttling even though I knew they did it until recently this month. I have 3 days left in my cycle, I'm at about 11GB and sometimes webpages take for ever to load and even time out on me.
If i download a file, the speed seems the same, for example I downlaod a 100mb podcast each day and that takes about the same time as normal.

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I've been on Verizon unlimited for years and I've had 4g for about 7 months. I never thought I was affected by throttling even though I knew they did it until recently this month. I have 3 days left in my cycle, I'm at about 11GB and sometimes webpages take for ever to load and even time out on me.
If i download a file, the speed seems the same, for example I downlaod a 100mb podcast each day and that takes about the same time as normal.
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They only throttle the top 5% I believe so you should be good.
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spc_hicks09 said:
They only throttle the top 5% I believe so you should be good.
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The top 5%? of users or data?

ufkal said:
The top 5%? of users or data?
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Top 5% of users based on data transfer usage. So all these people tethering for like 100gb a month, they'll get throttled.
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Top 5% of users based on data transfer usage. So all these people tethering for like 100gb a month, they'll get throttled.
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Excellent information to have. Thanks!!

ufkal said:
Excellent information to have. Thanks!!
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Not a problem!
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VZW gave me an early upgrade....

Well with 3 weeks to go before my warranty is up I contacted VZW about my non working alt key and my ****ty gps connections. They were more than happy to send me a CLNR and I was more than happy to recieve it. With the first replacement I made the mistake of activating and downloading all my apps before trying the physical keyboard (I would not make this mistake again). It was horrible. Maybe every 3rd or 4th letter I typed would register. Again I called and again they sent another CLNR.... this one was just as bad as the 1st. Called again and explained the issue, they promptly sent out a 3rd. Now the 3rd CLNR had a perfectly working keyboard. Happy with the keyboards performance I fired up the maps app to see about gps.... this it when it first rebooted. It then rebooted 8 more times in about 20 mins. So again I called VZW, and again I was very polite as I always try to be, and as soon as I described the newest issue she stopped me and informed me that she was going to send me to "tier 2" resolution and told me that they could do more for my situation including upgrading me early(not due till 03/13), she also thanked me for being "patient and understanding" noting that alot of customers she dwalt with were not. The "tier 2" rep also mentioned how polite I was and that usually they are being screamed at and called every name in the book. I got the felling that keeping my cool helped escalate me through the process quicker. In the end I was offered and excepted an early upgrade and chose the Galaxy Nexus due to it's unlocked and thoroughly supported dev community. I'm so appreciative of Hashcode and everyone else who supported the Droid3. Sadly tho my Droid3 will be retired to a box in my closet while my now almost 3 year old original Droid still gets used everyday as a wifi/gps device.

early upgrade at a discounted price? hope you didn't have unlimited data cause now you most likely wont..

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early upgrade at a discounted price? hope you didn't have unlimited data cause now you most likely wont..
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I used to have unlimited but lost it when my wife upgraded. It sucks....

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I used to have unlimited but lost it when my wife upgraded. It sucks....
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Just curious - are they taking away unlimited data with all upgrades these days? I upgraded last December and my wife in January but we kept our unlimited data with that one.

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Just curious - are they taking away unlimited data with all upgrades these days? I upgraded last December and my wife in January but we kept our unlimited data with that one.
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Yeah, I think it started in June or July.

I know it's expensive, but buying a new device outright and not taking the discounted contract price will allow you to keep your unlimited data. Your not changing anything/signing a new contract, just activating a new device.
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My friend recently got a D4 in place of his oddly-broken D3. He told me he had put it in his pocket while moving his mom's stuff to her new house, he bent over and heard a *crack*...and sure enough, a massive crack diagonally across his phone.
He called it in, and Got a Refurbished D4, with his original Contract in-tact. Unlimited 4G... Lucky Son of a Gun.
I thought about doing that to my phone, but its rooted, lol. My contract is up in the exact same month/year as your's OP. Hopefully, they'll let me keep my Unlimited Data come upgrade time, or I may just be goin to a new carrier for a QWERTY Phone.

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My friend recently got a D4 in place of his oddly-broken D3. He told me he had put it in his pocket while moving his mom's stuff to her new house, he bent over and heard a *crack*...and sure enough, a massive crack diagonally across his phone.
He called it in, and Got a Refurbished D4, with his original Contract in-tact. Unlimited 4G... Lucky Son of a Gun.
I thought about doing that to my phone, but its rooted, lol. My contract is up in the exact same month/year as your's OP. Hopefully, they'll let me keep my Unlimited Data come upgrade time, or I may just be goin to a new carrier for a QWERTY Phone.
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As long as you don't get a subsidized phone, you'll be able to keep your unlimited plan. As far as I know they're still allowing you to switch from 3g to 4g with it too.

I'm also saying goodbye to my D3, although it's working perfectly I felt that it was too slow for my needs. It's rather disappointing to see such good hardware wasted because of 512mb of ram. If it wasn't for that, we would have already at least an ICS leak with a great phone. I got a Note and it should arrive today or tomorrow. I'm afraid the community isn't going g to be as food as this, but let's see how it goes, after all we are all in xda
I have to say this was a great community to be part of. You guys remind me of M2 community, we had committed devs just like hash and jonpry who made our little phone incredible for its time, and still today is being updated, with a semi-functional JB build, even a semi functional camera and hw drivers.
I hope you guys get your JB, and to hash and all other devs who worked on the D3 success on your careers and lives, you guys are amazing!
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DróidScìon said:
My friend recently got a D4 in place of his oddly-broken D3. He told me he had put it in his pocket while moving his mom's stuff to her new house, he bent over and heard a *crack*...and sure enough, a massive crack diagonally across his phone.
He called it in, and Got a Refurbished D4, with his original Contract in-tact. Unlimited 4G... Lucky Son of a Gun.
I thought about doing that to my phone, but its rooted, lol. My contract is up in the exact same month/year as your's OP. Hopefully, they'll let me keep my Unlimited Data come upgrade time, or I may just be goin to a new carrier for a QWERTY Phone.
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Unroot then.

Verizon - Just get the Note 4 ???

I know the rumor was floating around the web that this week was finally going to be the week the n6 was released on verizon, but that was from one guy getting information from one store. no one else has been able to corroborate and every time i've asked verizon, they just respond with the same old "we don't have any information on that phone yet".
at this point do y'all think verizon will ever get the n6?
i wanted to upgrade anyway and was going to get the note 4 before finding out about the n6. would really prefer the n6 but just worried now that verizon isn't ever going to get it.

I am using the one I bought from GPS on Verizon. Verizon will probably never openly support the N6 or carry it. They have no control and that is the biggest problem they have with the Nexus 6. Get it from the GPS and get a nano from Verizon.

The same thing that has been said for the last month. Nobody knows anything. If you can't wait, buy it from Motorola/GPS or move on to another device. But anybody pretending they know or can guess what Verizon is going to do is simply throwing crap at the wall.

that's the problem though. if they ARE getting it at some point, i don't mind waiting. however, if they're going to pass on it entirely - choosing instead to focus on the droid turbo and the new droid phablet rumored to be released in mid 2015 - then i'll just get the note 4 instead.
i don't mind waiting, but don't want to wait around for something that's never going to come.

byproxy said:
that's the problem though. if they ARE getting it at some point, i don't mind waiting. however, if they're going to pass on it entirely - choosing instead to focus on the droid turbo and the new droid phablet rumored to be released in mid 2015 - then i'll just get the note 4 instead.
i don't mind waiting, but don't want to wait around for something that's never going to come.
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As Lesser Version stated just get one from the GPS store and a Nano sim from big red and your good to go. Ordered mine from GPS on 11/26, delivered yesterday with standard shipping and got the Nano sim Fedex from Verizon yesterday. Took a little coaching with Verizon rep on phone to get them to activate the Nano sim but the phone works great. If you want an unlocked phone that you can customize get the Nexus if you want a great phone that is locked down, get the Samsung Note 4. I have the Nexus 6, Note 3 and Note 4, all are great phones. I can customize the Note 3 more than the Nexus so far but that will change in time. Nexus gets the best reception out of all the phones due to Moto antennas.