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Hello,
I have recently bought nexus one and now randomly I have problems with the screen - I click on one place and it does something totally differently. It is fixed if I turn off and on screen. Before posting the question I did do my homework - I found this
- Q5: Sometimes my screen registers touches in incorrect places, and I need to turn the phone off and on to make it work correctly again
A: This is a hardware problem, nothing can be done about it. Nexus One's digitizer sucks.
in FAQ and found out that screen can't be calibrated. Now the questions that I have are:
1) Do all of the nexus ones have this issue? Would you advice me to return the phone and get a different model or replace for the same model (I already have bought screen protectors and case).
2) How often does this happen?
3) Is this a truly a hardware issue or software issue?
If this is a hardware issue - can it be fixed by software (e.g. by restarting the driver for the digitizer every minute or something like that...). I've read somewhere on this forum (or on a different one) that motorola had similar issues and they have released a patch that has fixed the issue
4) Are their any hopes it will get fixed in future releases?
5) People who have the same phone - how often do you have to turn off and on it (the screen - not reboot)?
Any other issues I should be aware of?
About the phone - its android 2.3.4
1) Yes. Some are more affected, some are less, all have it. It also depends on a zillion of factors - including climate, average finger moisture, etc.
2) See answer 1.
3) I've never looked at the code, but Nexus One is out for a year. If it was possible to fix - I'd bet it would have been done by now.
4) See answer 3.
5) See answer 1.
You've done your homework, but still came to ask "just in case". Well, the answers didn't change for the last 1/2 year.
Thank you for the quick answer.
If all the phones have this issue - why people are still using them? Or this is something they have just got used to? Also I understand that the frequency is different for everybody, but can I please have some numbers? Its one thing if it does it once a day or once a week and totally different if it does it every hour or every 15 minutes of use... Can you please let me know how often it does it for your phone? Also are you using screen protector? Is there any corolation between screen protector and and frequency?
Screen protector is known to cause less sensitivity and less responsive screen, which might account for some of the trouble.
People got used to it.
It mostly depends on the moisture and heat - the hotter the phone, the more likely is the screen to fail. Without moisture and with casual use it'll fail once a day or so. When playing a game, it can fail more than once an hour.
stillwater2 said:
Thank you for the quick answer.
If all the phones have this issue - why people are still using them? Or this is something they have just got used to? Also I understand that the frequency is different for everybody, but can I please have some numbers? Its one thing if it does it once a day or once a week and totally different if it does it every hour or every 15 minutes of use... Can you please let me know how often it does it for your phone? Also are you using screen protector? Is there any corolation between screen protector and and frequency?
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It happens to all nexus ones, its a hardware problem. But it only happens about once or twice a week, so most people just live with it. Just turning off then on the screen fixes it, so only takes a second to clear the error.
Also heat seems to cause it, particularly when its charging.
I go weeks without ever seeing the issue. Other times I see it once a week. It sucks but not a huge deal really.
Hi guys,
Just a quick question.... if this problem is hardware and relates to the digitizer then is it worth just replacing the digitizer?
I notice you can purchase a replacement digitizer on eBay.
Is it worth a try? And if so, is the N1 easy to take apart?
I've taken other phones apart and repaired them so have some experience.
If you replace it all you're doing is waisting your time. It will be the same thing. It is not like the digitizer is broken/failing or anything. It just sucks. Its not broken. Better way of thinking of it is a hardware limitation.
Hi guys,
Well, not wanting to be beaten by this screen problem, having suffered for over a year, I decided to take the plunge and buy a new digitizer off eBay. Cost about £20.
Found a couple of vids on Youtube which show you how to take the phone apart etc.
Two months on and all working fine. Not one single screen issue since replacing the digitizer.
Now a VERY happy Nexus One owner. Just wish Vodafone or HTC could have done the same thing on anyone of those four occasions I sent the phone for repair!!!
Now also running the MIUI custom OS... what a fantastic OS!!
Well, I'm pretty surprised no one filed class action suit against Google or HTC for supplying faulty digitizers on Nexus One
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jamjam11 said:
Hi guys,
Well, not wanting to be beaten by this screen problem, having suffered for over a year, I decided to take the plunge and buy a new digitizer off eBay. Cost about £20.
Found a couple of vids on Youtube which show you how to take the phone apart etc.
Two months on and all working fine. Not one single screen issue since replacing the digitizer.
Now a VERY happy Nexus One owner. Just wish Vodafone or HTC could have done the same thing on anyone of those four occasions I sent the phone for repair!!!
Now also running the MIUI custom OS... what a fantastic OS!!
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wow! which seller did you buy it from? is it an OEM part or third party? was the multi-touch issue fixed e.g. X-Y axis all over the place when fingers come too close together? does it now register more than 2 fingers?
The seller on eBay was e_cell. Search for this item to see the digitizer I purchased: 190567591678
It was listed as: 'GENUINE HTC NEXUS ONE G5 TOUCH SCREEN DIGITIZER + TOOLS'
I used a video on YouTube to dismantle the phone and insert the new digitizer.
Search YouTube for 'Google Nexus One Screen Replacement & Take Apart Directions'
Sorry I haven't include direct links but the forum wouldn't let me.
Note: Once I'd taken the phone apart I ran a warm hairdryer over the old digitizer in order to soften the glue that holds it in the frame of the phone. Then I slowly eased the old digitizer out of the frame and inserted the new one. The original adhesive in the frame will hold the new digitizer in place.
Tip: Make sure you remove any dust or finger prints from the new digitizer before reassembling the phone. You'll kick yourself if you forget to do this as they will be visible on the inside of the digitizer and it will drive you mad! I made this mistake and had to take the phone apart again to clean it up. DOH!
jamjam11 said:
The seller on eBay was e_cell. Search for this item to see the digitizer I purchased: 190567591678
It was listed as: 'GENUINE HTC NEXUS ONE G5 TOUCH SCREEN DIGITIZER + TOOLS'
I used a video on YouTube to dismantle the phone and insert the new digitizer.
Search YouTube for 'Google Nexus One Screen Replacement & Take Apart Directions'
Sorry I haven't include direct links but the forum wouldn't let me.
Note: Once I'd taken the phone apart I ran a warm hairdryer over the old digitizer in order to soften the glue that holds it in the frame of the phone. Then I slowly eased the old digitizer out of the frame and inserted the new one. The original adhesive in the frame will hold the new digitizer in place.
Tip: Make sure you remove any dust or finger prints from the new digitizer before reassembling the phone. You'll kick yourself if you forget to do this as they will be visible on the inside of the digitizer and it will drive you mad! I made this mistake and had to take the phone apart again to clean it up. DOH!
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I would love to know what sort of problems did the new digitizer fix?
My problem was when I touched one area of the screen another area would respond.
So a screen calibration issue.
It was most noticeable when texting. For example I'd press a key on the top row of keys and a key on the bottom row would respond.
A work around was to press the power button to put the phone into standby and press it again to continue using the phone. Sadly the problem would always come back.
I'd also have problems selecting App icons. I'd press one and another would respond.
I asked both Vodafone and HTC to swap out the screen but all they ever did was flash the rom or say they couldn't find any problem.
The issue I had is well documented on the internet.
So glad I never gave up on this.
wait so a new digitizer fixed the issue?
so theres a different version of this digitizer?
or is the model and product number still the same?
jamjam11 said:
My problem was when I touched one area of the screen another area would respond.
So a screen calibration issue.
It was most noticeable when texting. For example I'd press a key on the top row of keys and a key on the bottom row would respond.
A work around was to press the power button to put the phone into standby and press it again to continue using the phone. Sadly the problem would always come back.
I'd also have problems selecting App icons. I'd press one and another would respond.
I asked both Vodafone and HTC to swap out the screen but all they ever did was flash the rom or say they couldn't find any problem.
The issue I had is well documented on the internet.
So glad I never gave up on this.
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sweet! I have the exactly the same issue! so yeah...i'll replace the digitizer. thanks!
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jamjam11 said:
My problem was when I touched one area of the screen another area would respond.
So a screen calibration issue.
It was most noticeable when texting. For example I'd press a key on the top row of keys and a key on the bottom row would respond.
A work around was to press the power button to put the phone into standby and press it again to continue using the phone. Sadly the problem would always come back.
I'd also have problems selecting App icons. I'd press one and another would respond.
I asked both Vodafone and HTC to swap out the screen but all they ever did was flash the rom or say they couldn't find any problem.
The issue I had is well documented on the internet.
So glad I never gave up on this.
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Do you have the part number of this new digitizer you replaced? it turn out there are a number of OEM parts with different parts number
Unfortunately I can't state the part number as I don't have that information.
I simply searched eBay for a digitizer and looked for a good seller who appeared to be trusted and had a good feedback rating.
I'd bought from 'e_cell' before and knew they provided a good service.
All along I knew I was taking a gamble when buying the digitizer but the problem with the phone was so annoying I decided it was my last hope to get the thing working properly.
I've had the phone close to a year and a half, and during that time its spent most of its life either away for repair (Vodafone or HTC) or sitting in its box because I refused to use it. Instead I bought myself a second hand iPhone 3G off eBay to get by. Things were made worse by the fact I am tied into a two year contract with Vodafone.
So trying a new digitizer was my last throw of the dice, so to speak.
And the fact it worked is brilliant. I still feel this phone (Nexus One) is the best phone I've had, and I've had quite a few.
Please remember... if you decide to do what i did then see it as a gamble. There are no guarantees in life.
Oh, and be real careful when taking the phone apart and reassembling. It's not particularly hard but there is always a risk you may damage something. So be warned.
jamjam11 said:
Unfortunately I can't state the part number as I don't have that information.
I simply searched eBay for a digitizer and looked for a good seller who appeared to be trusted and had a good feedback rating.
I'd bought from 'e_cell' before and knew they provided a good service.
All along I knew I was taking a gamble when buying the digitizer but the problem with the phone was so annoying I decided it was my last hope to get the thing working properly.
I've had the phone close to a year and a half, and during that time its spent most of its life either away for repair (Vodafone or HTC) or sitting in its box because I refused to use it. Instead I bought myself a second hand iPhone 3G off eBay to get by. Things were made worse by the fact I am tied into a two year contract with Vodafone.
So trying a new digitizer was my last throw of the dice, so to speak.
And the fact it worked is brilliant. I still feel this phone (Nexus One) is the best phone I've had, and I've had quite a few.
Please remember... if you decide to do what i did then see it as a gamble. There are no guarantees in life.
Oh, and be real careful when taking the phone apart and reassembling. It's not particularly hard but there is always a risk you may damage something. So be warned.
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Thank you for the information, so it turn out nexus one have quite a number of unresolved issues. I was wondering why didn't big G did not order product recall for people with faulty digitizer?
I looked around and found that a number of users have having all kind of issues after replacing the digitizer. Geez...what should I do? Perhaps I should take it to a professional phone repair shop?
poor reception
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961274
broken digitizer connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904013
replacement experience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797203
Well, luckily for me no problems as yet (though never say never!).
The most important thing when taking the phone apart is to take your time, and memorise where everything is located. Be firm but not heavy handed. There are some delicate parts inside the phone so you have to be careful.
Common sense really.
I've had no issues with signal strength. I get HSDPA most of the time, or standard 3G. My data (internet) is working fine and so is GPS.
Inside the phone there are a couple of connectors that control signal so you have to be careful and make sure if they disconnect that you reconnect them again properly.
I build and repair computers and laptops. If you've ever taken a laptop apart that has wireless LAN capability then you'll know there are specific wires which connect the antenna to the motherboard. The same applies in the N1 but on a smaller scale.
Good luck to anyone who tries this!
does anyone from the UK have a source to get a new digitizer from that fixes the heat related issue?
ebay has one for £22.50 (id: 10goodseller2012), and i'm almost ready to click BUY, just want to see if anyone else has more info before i 'blindly' click buy...
edit: i should add, 'e_cell' seller no longer has the N1 digitizers listed...
No matter what anybody says, replacing the digitizer itself won't fix the issue. It is deeper than that. It is the digitizer mixed with the onboard hardware to interpret the digitizer inputs. Usually it ends up just being heat related. I haven't had the issue with my phone for awhile, but that is because it doesn't get as hot as it used to with older versions of CM, but if I have it in the sun, in my car dock, using GPS, it will freak out all the time.
bassmadrigal said:
No matter what anybody says, replacing the digitizer itself won't fix the issue. It is deeper than that. It is the digitizer mixed with the onboard hardware to interpret the digitizer inputs. Usually it ends up just being heat related. I haven't had the issue with my phone for awhile, but that is because it doesn't get as hot as it used to with older versions of CM, but if I have it in the sun, in my car dock, using GPS, it will freak out all the time.
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i too was sceptical, and i still am.
however, I've replaced the digitizer and so far it's perfect! i'm not sure it's placebo as i could get it todo it 100% of the time.
prior to ordering the new digitizer, i ran tests to see at what temp ranges the screen would play up - according to the battery temp (Battery Monitor Widget), it will play up over 40c.
what i SUSPECT is the fix, is the digitizer i bought is a newer hardware revision than the one i had. the new digitizer did come with it's own chip on the flexible PCB.
i did mean to write down the new digitizer number and compare from the old one to see if they have revised it - alas, i forgot to get the new number. (old one is 940-473-1r5)
its been installed for almost 2 hours now, and on test for around an hour to build up heat - screen on full, camera on, GPS on (using aLapRecorder HD) and it's perfect. before i could guarantee a problem with screen dimmed, camera on, GPS off, so early impressions are good!
I'll give it a proper test tonight on the way home from work - it'll have the windscreen blower aswell..
So, after replacing my flex due to a broken power button, I seem to have broken the LCD-connection on the mainboard itself. The screen is going black, so that is definately the problem and I will need to replace the mainboard itself (not the flex)... Couldn't find it anywhere for less then 200 dollars, but i have found a mainboard for a HTC Desire thats cheap. I know they are very similair, with pretty much the same hardware.
The question is, will it fit the Nexus one and work??
From pictures they sure look the same, but there might be issues on the software side with the different buttons/trackball.
Even if it works, if you have a AWS N1, you'll lose 3G after the swap.
Edit: When looking for a flex board, I saw some sellers claim the same board worked for both phones.
Thanks, but what if i flash a Nexus one ROM onto the Desire motherboard, wont that fix the capacitive/hardware button problem??
And i think my Nexus is from Hong Kong, for some reason the manuals are in chinese even though the phone is in english..
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So, after replacing my flex due to a broken power button, I seem to have broken the LCD-connection on the mainboard itself. The screen is going black, so that is definately the problem and I will need to replace the mainboard itself (not the flex)... Couldn't find it anywhere for less then 200 dollars, but i have found a mainboard for a HTC Desire thats cheap. I know they are very similair, with pretty much the same hardware.
The question is, will it fit the Nexus one and work??
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Why dont you just buy a new phhone? Nexus is 150$ Or just upgrade to other phone, nexus is not worth spending more money on.
You're right, the thing is that i live in the UK, so in September 2011 i go and buy the nexus for 200 pounds brand new with a 16gb memory card etc... after two months of usage the power button broke down, so i bought a new flex, which caused me to break the lcd connector. So, since i havent used it that much i don't really want to throw it away, since it is still brand new... and the motherboard i found is very cheap. It's cheaper than the flex or AMOLED... So i might as well.
So today my D3 was acting up with the brightness of the Screen and then it would only come on after messing with the screen by sliding it in and out until i came on and i had to leave it in that exact position or it would go black again.
Then my D3 wouldnt come on at all no matter what i did so i took the battery out and held the power button until i heard the boot animation. After awhile i noticed that it started getting very warm or at least i felt it was.
And well now the phone will not make any sounds or movement and no lights come on at all except the charging LED when i plug it in.
unfortunetly the phone is out of warranty and i dont have Insurance so im pretty much screwed which i guess is fine because its rooted and moded with Steel Droid 3.0 and I couldnt download the Stock Rom Zip.
Any ideas?!?
Can anyone help me?!?
Any similar experiences?!?
Could it be the Battery or is it the LCD is fried?!?!?
The only way to fix this is to unlock the bootloader!
I doubt the bootloader has anything to do with it. It sounds like a hardware problem, possibly the ribbon cable for the screen coming loose. If that is the problem you could try taking the phone apart to see if it is loose and disconnect and reconnect it to see if that helps.
Sounds like the flex cable connecting the two halves of the phone has failed. All you need to do is to have it replaced. You can find replacement online - eBay/etc and do it yourself if you are comfortable taking the phone apart. It is not super difficult.
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I agree it sounds like a failed flex. Unfortunately it's a pricy cable, as it has all of the front sensors attached to it. I have seen a few places online that sell them. If anyone finds them cheap, share here, I have a couple D3s with bad flex cables in my bad phone pile.
Best bet is to sell the dead phone, and buy another. People may still pay a few hundred for a non working D3
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Hey,on ebay is 28usd,i ordered one
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Hello guys I was wandering any of you can help me with a problem.
Ok so I have a LG thrill AT&T the digitizer is damage so I replace it did everything just fine take it apart carefully making sure I didnt break any thing anyway this not the first tim I change a digitizer did a lot of the on different Phone However with this Thrill after I carefully put it back together making sure everything is fine and plugin now the Phone will not power up all I get is the the little vibrating when I turn it on and it's light up I even put a sim in it and try to call it dont even ring took it back apart about three time and check everything nothing crack or broken the LCD looks fine no crack in that digitizer is brand new now of the ribbon is brooken still nothing anyone can help me out I would be greatful has to what to try next
Sounds like you are going into emg mode e.g. vol up and power.
If the phone is off and you plug it into your computer do you get the charging screen?
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My nephew owns an LG THRILL 3D P925 from AT&T. He dropped it and broke the digitizer resulting in huge spider cracks. So, for his birthday I decided to be a great uncle purchase a digitizer online.
I received a P920 replacement digitizer. I was told this would be compatible with the phone by the company I purchased it from.
Everthing went really well with the digitizer replacement as the process was pretty easy. However, when I attempt to power on the phone, I get a vibration with zero activity from the LCD.
At first I thought that I somehow ripped the LCD cable or the digitizer cable; however, after close inspection, I do not see any flaws in either cables or their respective connection points.
I too feel like the phone is stuck in download mode. I wish I knew if the original poster has resolved their issue, and I would not mind continuing the discovery process on how to fully troubleshoot this with you John if you would oblidge. I did not think it would be beneficial for me to start a new thread considering I am experiencing the exact same issue as the OP.
Thanks in advance for any assistance from Anyone!
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I don't think another post would get anymore attention
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No.
How about you just PM the person and ask?
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I work in a computer store where we replace lots and lots of screens and digitizers....it is not unheard of to get a bad one......I have seen at least three this year.....
Recently I've reopened my HTC HD2 to glue the glass+digitizer better to the case since the replacement BUT I accidentally damaged the flex cable by cutting the UP/DOWN volume buttons flex....
...I've already ordered 3 from eBay and from different sellers and the symptons were:
1. Bad Sound through loudspeaker (static), Camera was flickering with pinkish tone
2. Bad Sound through loudspeaker (static), No Vibration
3. Bad Sound through loudspeaker (static), Vibration worked but no Proximity sensor (literally)
Suffice to say I've waited nearly 1 month for each arrival...spend time to install and make a video to show the seller I was not lying...and now I'm using the HD2 without the volume buttons but with everything ok....I'm nearly Ok wasn't the fact that the Vol keys have a number of functions I use: Camera button, Silence a call and most important flash new rom's.....
Can anyone help me find one that REALLY works?
I would say your best bet is getting a used device being sold with dead or broken original digitizer.
Prices are very reasonable these days & even if twice the price you will reclaim the cost by selling other genuine parts via eBay.
Quality of chinese manufacture on mainboard flex is going be a problem as they love minimal manufacture cost (even leaving components out:-O )
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I would say your best bet is getting a used device being sold with dead or broken original digitizer.
Prices are very reasonable these days & even if twice the price you will reclaim the cost by selling other genuine parts via eBay.
Quality of chinese manufacture on mainboard flex is going be a problem as they love minimal manufacture cost (even leaving components out:-O )
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Maybe you're right...and that's what 'll try to do next time. What I don't understand is the large number of happy costumers buying those flex's and reporting no problems...
I think a lot of people write feedback before fitting or testing well.
I do suspect some work well but indeed they will not be near quality of original.
The digitizers & button boards are good but flex is one of those things where genuine if possible works out best.
Should be easy pick up a salvageable HD2 besides bad mainboard or digitizer & with your gained experience strip for parts.
maybe you can try on www.aliexpress.com
I recently bought this one - http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6129733847.html , but i've given my HD2 for assemblage, as I am not able to flawlessly do it personally . i can post the results in a weeks time and tell you how it works.
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maybe you can try on www.aliexpress.com
I recently bought this one - http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6129733847.html , but i've given my HD2 for assemblage, as I am not able to flawlessly do it personally . i can post the results in a weeks time and tell you how it works.
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Generally same stuff different website, interested in your results though ...
Hopefully works out good ...
KCLT said:
maybe you can try on www.aliexpress.com
I recently bought this one - http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6129733847.html , but i've given my HD2 for assemblage, as I am not able to flawlessly do it personally . i can post the results in a weeks time and tell you how it works.
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Did it work ok? Camera, Sound, VIbration, Proximity sensor?
Cheers,
Shwanz
Shwanz said:
Did it work ok? Camera, Sound, VIbration, Proximity sensor?
Cheers,
Shwanz
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Same as ones on eBay - amazon, you'll find that seller on eBay too.
Main flex is always best salvaged from a cheap broken HD2 rather than copy part as just too complex & important for cheap china copy part.