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Today, a friend, called me to setup a new android phone for his wife. It was the cheap, very cheap, Alcatel Onetouch 908.
I transfered contacts, calendar events, configured emails and installed some apps from the market. The phone felt speedy, to be exact much more speedy than my Galaxy S and that started to bother me. What bothered me more was my friend, who has a Galaxy S II device. He told me out of the blue that alcatel felt speedier than his S II. I finished and 'take it for a walk'. I started sequently loading apps (browser, gmail, contants, market and talk) and then multitasked between them. The initial loading was almost immediate and, to my suprise, mutitasking was instant. My Galaxy felt like a second class device, my world shuttered... almost
I left my friend and I was angry, very angry. How could that be? I've tried numerous roms, customs and stock ones, with lagfixes enabled or disabled but, truth to be told, all of them felt like rubbish compared to an alcatel onet... I don't want to tell the evil's name!
Now, I am still angry but not with Alcatel,.. with Samsung! Am I wrong? What are your thoughts? Does anyone have an answer? Was just my imagination?
I don't suppose you have tried running 3D games on it?
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I did and it was fantastic... just kidding
No I didn't. But now you've said it, just for the laughs, next time I will be around, I'll try angry birds... if possible (although not a 3D game... I think)!
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aaaaaaaaawwwwwwww, this is uglyyyyy, what an ugly phone, even if it had the speed of light, or even faster, the speed of thought or even much faster than those the speed of GOD, I would take the SGS anytime.
btw, try quadrant too, see if you get some noticable scores with it, if it's really worth your time, but if it was me, I wouldn't even set it up for a girl friend, let alone a friends girl.
well its the same story again u see a new android phone unused or if even used then used very very lightly(just calls,sms,have 10-25 apps. and all that) ! man any android pgone newly bought and used lightly can be very fast! i saw my friends galaxy ace on 2.2 bpught just 3 days ago and very lightly uaed and it was working like a lightning! if you want to see your phone this fast then flash stock jvs and you'll face lightning but as soon you get some apps in and start using it heavily youll start facing lags! download 100 apps. and do heavy multitasking on that alcatel for a week or so and youll start hating it and will throw it into a dustbin!
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You should try CyanogenMod 7 (CM7) out of the box (no apps/games installed).
It's just fast - the speed is nearly amazing. Same thing with MIUI.
And just forget stock-ROMs. You won't want to use them after you have tried an AOSP-ROM (CM7 or MIUI).
Lunchbox115 said:
You should try CyanogenMod 7 (CM7) out of the box (no apps/games installed).
It's just fast - the speed is nearly amazing. Same thing with MIUI.
And just forget stock-ROMs. You won't want to use them after you have tried an AOSP-ROM (CM7 or MIUI).
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Its not like that exactly but its very true both cm7 and minuit out of the box are amazing infraction I just installed 1.9.16 miui and it has just 7 apps. Installed and it's balzing fast ! But minuit has many problems of its own so I am moving back to Samsung based rom jetpack v5 spark very soon !
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Thanks for the replies...
-I've tried CM7: it was fast but... it didn't felt home. So I dished it and went back to the samsung related rom's!
-Yes, SGS is prettier than 908 but really it's not so ugly. After all, my post was about speed, not beauty.
-So, if I load alcatel with 100+ apps I will feel the pain you say. We'll see... But if it's true then I will be angry again, very angry... with Google!
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The thing about multitasking is that is related mainly with memory and memory management. I think it's true, if enough free memory exists any os will keep more tasks active and multitask between them will be instant...
But android keeps loading and unloading apps, in the background, which I almost never use but consume memory.
Skype is the perfect example. When i do not need it, I am signing off skype and go straight back to my home screen... Of course, as we all know, skype persists and never exits. It's just sits there consuming memory and doing nothing. If I try to kill it, android will happily and immediately reload it. The only way really kill it, is to uninstall it, but is this a solution?
One more example? The facebook app or the friencaster app. Even if I disable every automatic refresh or log off from facebook some part of them will keep running and like skype I cannot kill it.
The essence of all this is that: I own a phone with 512 mb of ram assisted with a powerful, 1 GHz, CPU, much - much more than an alcatel OT 908 and this doesn't show. Maybe is the 100+ apps I've installed in my phone, maybe is android, maybe is a bug, maybe it's me whining. Whatever is it... it's wrong and yes, I'm starting feeling angry, very angry with... Google and Samsung
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The thing about multitasking is that is related mainly with memory and memory management. I think it's true, if enough free memory exists any os will keep more tasks active and multitask between them will be instant...
But android keeps loading and unloading apps, in the background, which I almost never use but consume memory.
Skype is the perfect example. When i do not need it, I am signing off skype and go straight back to my home screen... Of course, as we all know, skype persists and never exits. It's just sits there consuming memory and doing nothing. If I try to kill it, android will happily and immediately reload it. The only way really kill it, is to uninstall it, but is this a solution?
One more example? The facebook app or the friencaster app. Even if I disable every automatic refresh or log off from facebook some part of them will keep running and like skype I cannot kill it.
The essence of all this is that: I own a phone with 512 mb of ram assisted with a powerful, 1 GHz, CPU, much - much more than an alcatel OT 908 and this doesn't show. Maybe is the 100+ apps I've installed in my phone, maybe is android, maybe is a bug, maybe it's me whining. Whatever is it... it's wrong and yes, I'm starting feeling angry, very angry with... Google and Samsung
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Assuming your phone is rooted there are apps that can disable or prevent other apps from starting and running in the background- android optimize and autostarts seem to work for me.
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Looking at the specs for the OneTouch, I am not surprised it is fast.
The 600mhz chip it is using is quite overpowered for what is effectively a featurephone. It is also supporting a much smaller, less advanced screen (256K colors, TFT) which frees up a LOT of cpu cycles for basic functions. This kind of speed while just being a phone is why feature phones aren't as dead as people keep assuming.
It is also running Froyo, which was made for this kind of phone and likely races on it, without having to worry about the sort of strains a Galaxy class smartphone puts on an OS.
Remember, if you install a slimmed down OS on a custom designed modern laptop, and ONLY install a handful of programs no doubt it will break speed records. However, to judge it against a fully loaded, professional install is like comparing apples and oranges.
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I did and it was fantastic... just kidding
No I didn't. But now you've said it, just for the laughs, next time I will be around, I'll try angry birds... if possible (although not a 3D game... I think)!
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alcatel ot 908 runs NFS shift, NOVA, Gangstar, BIA2, Sandstorm, Sims3, Rackless Racing, GuerillaBob, dead space....runs 99% hd games that don't requires armv7 or 2.3
it's way better then most off QVGA android and all msm7201 and msm7225.... (hvga and qvga)
for that money...
Well I have to say.
Just bought this second hand SGS to test and compare with my Desire HD.
If I can be honest. Both have the same clock freq and specs seems the same, but the DHD (lets call it that way) is alot faster than the SGS.
I am amazed how long it takes to just open the camera. On the DHD the camera app opens in half a second I think.
Then sometimes you click on something and nothing happens making you think that you didn't click anything at all. On the DHD opening anything is instant.
I'm running Darky 10.22 so if someone knows if I need to change something to make this a faster thing please let me know.
the only advantage of the desire hd and the alcatel ot 908 (i own one of these and a desire S, very similar to the hd hardware-wise) is that out-o-the-box, they're configured almost perfectly for their respective OS version and hardware.. Samsung makes some very tough and cutting-edge hardware, but they've always been lagging behind software-wise (and still are to some extent, i know what i'm talking about here too : my main device is a note2 N7100 and my dev/test device is my old -but almost unbreakable even when I'm the one who opens it up to solder or repair sthg in it- galaxy s2 i9100... None of those were left "stock", they're both fitted with CM10-derivated ROMs (most of the time a ParanoidAndroid or some derivate), heavily customized and "after-market" optimized (thanks to all the good tips&tweaks found here at XDA ^^) just to remedy those problems.. Never for my life would I leave one of these stock (I run a stock firmware on a dual-boot on the SGS2, but that's only for entering USSD codes, as these usually won't work on CM7/9/10 ROMs)... And yet, they're both way better when they're still "stock" than the Wave 1 was, with his powerful 1GHz Snapdragon CPU, but a puny 512Mb RAM -shared with the OS/CPU and GPU at that, leaving a mere 312Mb -give or take- to the poor user.. Far too low for its memory-hungry Bada OS,even in its latest and last 2.X versions.. I couldn't even open a second page in its Dolphin browser before it started shutting down background apps and closing widgets.. :s).
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milro1970 said:
Thanks for the replies...
-I've tried CM7: it was fast but... it didn't felt home. So I dished it and went back to the samsung related rom's!
-Yes, SGS is prettier than 908 but really it's not so ugly. After all, my post was about speed, not beauty.
-So, if I load alcatel with 100+ apps I will feel the pain you say. We'll see... But if it's true then I will be angry again, very angry... with Google!
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you won't be able to load that many apps on it m8... ^^
even with a big-ass 32Gb SD card, its /system and /data partitions are way too tiny for this number.. trust me, I've tried it, it choked at 20-30 tops for "average" apps (between 1 and 4Mb each)...
I'm using my Xperia T since 3 weeks ago, and overall I'm satisfied.
However, since I got back again to using Chrome instead of the stock browser, an unwelcome thought that creeped in my mind well before buying the XT came back full force: 1gb of ram is just not enough anymore.
Yeah, I know all too well that Chrome's memory consumption is absurd (I seriously think my full Win7 pc would probably run better given the same ram amount).
But it's very distressing when you open the 4th tab in chrome, and suddenly every other app gets terminated by Android, including the music player (which I was joyfully listening to), the home screen, emails, messages, etc.
Problem is, that the situation is still the same after many Chrome updates. It looks as if Chrome raised the bar for device memory, setting it to a 2gb minimum for "pro" devices. This is ridiculous, and it's gonna look worse, given that in JB and onwards there's no stock browser anymore.
I think the XT is not even a bit future proof. If this Chrome annoyance becomes real and everyday's, I may sell it well before than I expected.
Any thoughts?
Since music app is "making processes and producing sound" actively then it must be considered as a foreground app. Or at least a part of it (services) is active on the foreground. A fore ground app can not be closed by the system unless the available memory is really critical (less than 4 Mb i guess). Sometingh else must be forcing your devices memory. Galaxy S3 has the same amount of RAM but i have never seen it stopping the music or radio with neither stock music app or poweramp. Which music app is that?
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Since music app is "making processes and producing sound" actively then it must be considered as a foreground app. Or at least a part of it (services) is active on the foreground. A fore ground app can not be closed by the system unless the available memory is really critical (less than 4 Mb i guess). Sometingh else must be forcing your devices memory. Galaxy S3 has the same amount of RAM but i have never seen it stopping the music or radio with neither stock music app or poweramp. Which music app is that?
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the app is Sony's walkman app (Sony's stock music player).
tell me, have you ever used chrome with more than 2-3 tabs open? try it. it can bring your device down to its knees, sucking away the last remaining byte of ram from the system. it did so with my last year's Motorola atrix 2, it does now with my XT. same ram amount.
other than that, I've got facebook and whatsapp, and the least number of automatic syncs active.
I never experienced something like this. Usually have about 8 to 10 tabs open for sites I check regularly. Phone is always fast and smooth
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Same here. No prob with chrome on stock rom.
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Also no problems here, 6 tabs, while playing walkman via Bluetooth to a headset, auto sync on, WiFi on, could you try resetting both apps, force stop, clear cache and try again, see if it helps!
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I sometimes even exceed 12 tabs. Nothing so for. Because Chrome also has RAM management. If it notices that the free RAM is decreasing rapidly it saves one -or more- of the background tabs into a temp memory and closes it. Once you click on a closes tab it shows it in grey and takes 1-2 secs to relaod. It does not try to force keep every tab in the RAM.
In this thread I'm making different hypotheses.
1) Chrome sucks. It's dog slow, and becomes slower day after day (cache size growing indefinitely). It's pig fat.
2) Xperia T can't handle Chrome because 1 gig of ram is not enough for it.
The first one is a fact. I tended to just blame Chrome, but now I'm considering the second view too.
I'm happy if you don't have any problems with 6 or 12 tabs, but for me the issue strikes at as few as 4 tabs. Music stopping, home reloading, and everything. By the way, I wonder what are your average tabs' content in Chrome.
I am now testing Firefox and it seems it's much lighter on the system while displaying the same tabs. Now I wish they would strip out that useless extensions support... no one needs them, at least on mobile...
P.S.: When I say "four tabs" I mean tabs you're actively browsing in, not dormant/unloaded tabs!
How about the other way around? Does your browser keep refreshing if u open like 5 apps or more and go back to browser?
My s3 is getting an issue like this and I'm annoyed. Would like to switch or wait for 2gb ram Xperia Z
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How about the other way around? Does your browser keep refreshing if u open like 5 apps or more and go back to browser?
My s3 is getting an issue like this and I'm annoyed. Would like to switch or wait for 2gb ram Xperia Z
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Usual apps get reloaded pretty quickly on my Xperia, it almost goes unnoticed to me. Other than that, I think it's down to the individual app's weight.
Judging from the running apps list, most apps weigh well below Chrome.
How come there is only 643 mb total available ram?
And is there a way to lock apps in memory? I want to lock browser, it keeps reloading if I opened 2 apps and go back to browser.
Or can we modify how android is killing the apps?
Thanks
Edit: I searched and found out that the gpu eats the remaining ram
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modem os will need some RAM... maybe try 3rd party browsers? like dolphin...
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The memory not shown is used by the video card (probably 128 mb), the linux kernel and drivers and maybe some core android libraries.
The scandal is that 300~400 megs used by android apps just to idle around.
Even an easy app like whatsapp eats 8 mb just to sit there and wait for incoming messages.
This really boils down to bad os design.
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I use the stock browser mostly cause it plays flash and chrome doesn't and before I update to JB I'm going to back it up with Titanium Backup I've also read that Jelly Bean can play flash too even if it's not as stable
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In this thread I'm making different hypotheses.
1) Chrome sucks. It's dog slow, and becomes slower day after day (cache size growing indefinitely). It's pig fat.
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I don't think it's quite that bad, as other commentors have noted your mileage will vary.
2) Xperia T can't handle Chrome because 1 gig of ram is not enough for it.
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Trust me it handles it just fine... Try it on a Samsung Captivate (or Nexus S which is equivalent) with 512 MB of RAM.
I am now testing Firefox and it seems it's much lighter on the system while displaying the same tabs. Now I wish they would strip out that useless extensions support... no one needs them, at least on mobile...
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I haven't tried the latest Firefox on my Xperia TL, but on my Captivate running CM 10.1, it was even more bloated than Chrome.
Try any of these:
Full versions;
Boat Mobile
Opera
Xscope
Dolphin
All of them are WAY faster than chrome, (especially boat and opera) and easily handle a heavy tab load.
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This really boils down to bad os design.
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Uh.. No.. Android has _WAY_ better memory management than most OS' including Windows. Try running Chrome on a Pentium 4 1.5 Ghz (MIPS equivalent???) with only 768 MB of system memory available.
Most versions of windows would choke and die on that.
the way Android handles memory is brilliant and allows for seamless multi-tasking. I would suggest a couple of things:
1) Root your phone and remove the bloated apps.
2) If you don't want to root your phone, disable apps you are not using. Like instead of leaving the stock messaging app enabled while using What's app, disable it. It will reduce your messaging requirements.
And really, don't you want your messaging app running all the time? Do you want to miss a message?
Trust me it handles it just fine... Try it on a Samsung Captivate (or Nexus S which is equivalent) with 512 MB of RAM.
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I don't have any 512mb phone anymore, but I've tried Explorer on a WP7.8 phone with that amount of ram and it ran faster, leaner, lag-less, and it didn't shut down tabs or other system apps with 6 tabs open.
I haven't tried the latest Firefox on my Xperia TL, but on my Captivate running CM 10.1, it was even more bloated than Chrome.
Try any of these:
Full versions;
Boat Mobile
Opera
Xscope
Dolphin
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I am already trying Opera (but like Firefox more for its smoothness, and Opera's UI is outdated after many years), and have used Dolphin some time. Second hand browsers are all more or less clones built around major engines. I prefer first hand.
Uh.. No.. Android has _WAY_ better memory management than most OS' including Windows. Try running Chrome on a Pentium 4 1.5 Ghz (MIPS equivalent???) with only 768 MB of system memory available.
Most versions of windows would choke and die on that.
the way Android handles memory is brilliant and allows for seamless multi-tasking.
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MIPS? ARM you mean? Either way if there's only 768mb available out of 1gb, it's still android's/google's fault. Specifically in my Xperia T there's only ~650mb available, making it a combined Google-Sony fault.
Besides, I'm not talking of bad memory management, but of Google's bad design choices. Without going too deep, Google could have chosen to use native code like ios, to improve speed and memory consumption. Java code (turned into native code at run-time) can not be shared between apps, so if 2 apps use the same java library, basically the same native code will be generated and stored twice. I don't know if android core libraries are native or java, but the minimum 3-4mb memory usage per process, even the lightest one, points to the worse option, at least for part of the libs.
Besides memory consumption, android's java runtime (dalvik) is not nearly as fast as it should be; it eats dust from .net (Windows phone) and oracle's desktop java. But Google is not interested in gettings these things better, unless we're talking of in app purchases, ads, or other sources of their revenue....
Also keep in mind programmers will do as much as you allow them in terms of bloat. Google's Android team should be slapping Facebook's all the time for consuming up more memory than a browser instance of facebook on my full-featured Windows box (66mb on android for the service alone vs 60mb on internet Explorer 10), but with their class-leading memory-whore Chrome, they come first in the blame list.
Ultimately, I think it's all Google's fault, be it for bad design decisions or for not keeping the environment controlled enough.
1gb of ram is easily enough for a top end device (though 2gb is optimal) but as has been mentioned, its due to 'bad' design, android was built for blackberry style devices and quickly edited to run on touchscreens to compete with the iPhone so at its core its not really a touch OS. If you were to buy an ancient castle and try upgrade it to a modern 5star hotel or build a 5 star hotel from scratch you will see what I mean - this is why we have launcher being killed from memory on the s3 with 1g ram, bad handling with the browser etc...
The problem is, while Google do eventually get around to fixing fundamental flaws (project butter for example) its always too late and after just trying to throw better hardware at it. An iPhone 3gs was smoother than the s3 quad core on ICS, that was embarrassing for them and they realised it was time to fix it in the software because hardware only improved it so much... Next year when our phones have 4gb ram and browsers lose the data and need to reload while iPhone 4s retain all 8 tabs on 512 mb ram will force them to implement a project ram type change to the os. I wish it wasn't necessary though because jelly bean on 2012/13 flagships should be perfect, not almost there.
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But still, why do we have only 643MB, while other devices have 800MB and more. Something is not much well done here.
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the app is Sony's walkman app (Sony's stock music player).
tell me, have you ever used chrome with more than 2-3 tabs open? try it. it can bring your device down to its knees, sucking away the last remaining byte of ram from the system. it did so with my last year's Motorola atrix 2, it does now with my XT. same ram amount.
other than that, I've got facebook and whatsapp, and the least number of automatic syncs active.
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I have had this happen to me. Listening to the Sony Walkman App through bluetooth headset...and browsing on stock browser.. after around 20 mins or so..the walkman app stops and has lost the playlist etc and on opening shows the tracks as if they have just been loaded from new. Posted this on sony forum's but they cannot say anything on this behaviour.
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But still, why do we have only 643MB, while other devices have 800MB and more. Something is not much well done here.
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Let's hope it gets better on jelly bean !
So I'm very interested in the xperia so but some of the professional reviews out there have some criticisms that worry me.
The camera I know about and it seems like it's correct from other posts on this sub forum. However I think I can deal with it since I have an actual SLR and my phone is never going to replace that now is it.
However some reviews say that the battery life of this phone is below par. This confuses me because the mAh of this phone is pretty darn high. In particular they say that you'll only be able to play gta3 for example for about three hours. I have no idea if this is a long time or not but the reviewer certainly didn't think so.
Another point that they make is that the phone sometimes stutters and behaves slowly despite high benchmark scores. They suggest that this is because the xperia sp has only 1gb of RAM or that Sony hasn't properly optimised the software.
So do any of these claims hold water? In particular I want to know how the battery life compares to the galaxy s3?
The stuttering may indeed be a software issue so another important consideration for me is whether this phone will have good unofficial support? I guess that's a hard question to answer at the moment though!
Thanks in advance all!
I can't compare against the s3, but compared to my last android the battery life is superb. I haven't had any stuttering at all either. I'm very happy with my sp but it is a big jump up from my ageing LG p500.
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I haven't had any stuttering, too.
About the battery life:
When I set the brightness to 50% and activate the auto brightness (in settings) it was about 41 hours. Today I tried the app "yet another auto brightness" (because the auto brightness in settings only adjust +/- 10%). after 14 hours and about 3 hours with active display the battery is at 12 %...
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So I'm very interested in the xperia so but some of the professional reviews out there have some criticisms that worry me.
However some reviews say that the battery life of this phone is below par. This confuses me because the mAh of this phone is pretty darn high. In particular they say that you'll only be able to play gta3 for example for about three hours. I have no idea if this is a long time or not but the reviewer certainly didn't think so.
Another point that they make is that the phone sometimes stutters and behaves slowly despite high benchmark scores. They suggest that this is because the xperia sp has only 1gb of RAM or that Sony hasn't properly optimised the software.
Thanks in advance all!
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I don't think any phone can play GTA 3 for more than 3 hours, since all phones will overheat and start to lag. Battery life is not an issue.
Those guys don't know what they are talking about. 1 GB of ram is enough. In android, unused ram is wasted ram, and the launcher only requires 40-50 mb of ram.
I am going to bet that you read a review by PhoneArena. Those guys hate Sony phones, but for some reason like the tablets
As for Techradar, they have a campaign on Samsung products, due to them being their sponsor.
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However, it's not all plain sailing as there are times when the SP stutters just a bit more than we're comfortable with. Sometimes it would randomly refuse to pop up the keyboard in the Chrome browser or when we tried to use the search box in the App Drawer. There were also little slow downs and pauses that we haven’t seen on other handsets running Jelly Bean, such as when you exit some apps back to the homescreen and it takes a couple of seconds to redraw the icons on the screen. These issues could, of course, be due to the 1GB of Ram that Sony has twinned with the processor, but we think it's more likely that Sony needs to better optimise its launcher and firmware to iron out some bugs
Not true? Exaggerated?
The only thing that I can confirm is, that it takes sometimes 1-2 seconds to redraw the icons on the homescreen after closing some games... I could not find the other reported bugs.
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I am a regular player of GTA Vice CIty on my my X SP but when the phone is on Charging and some time after long play game automatically shuts down (around 45 min) and phone heats up.
Few times when i played on Battery it drained around 15-16% of battery in half hour of play.
Considering 2370mAh battery, its backup is not that good (Mediaserver Poblem) backup of s3 is marginally better
and camera is 100 time better in Xperia P (have compared it personally).
I also have problem with KeyBoard not coming up many time in Chrome and other place.
THis is my personal review
Ive had no problems at all with any of the problems mentioned on here its a great device its super fast and stable and ive disabled apps i dont need like facebook maps etc etc so u can debloat on stock so far but obviously u can debloat more with root
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Posting from the xperia sp now!!
I haven't noticed any problems with stuttering yet but I notice there is already an update to the firmware. Maybe that fixed some of the issues. I'm on ten percent battery and it's only midday!!! But didn't charge before I turned out on from the box haha.
About 3 or 4 hours with screen on from 54% not terrible!
Maybe the keyboard issue is to do with the Sony keyboard? I'm using Google keyboard and it's all fine so far.
It's quantum leap. I must admit my P500 still charming, and works fine for last three years. Hope my Xperia SP can last even longer
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Did any of the users find the phone lag at any point of time? Please help me out with this. I have heard that the phone to lags, is it true? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Did any of the users find the phone lag at any point of time? Please help me out with this. I have heard that the phone to lags, is it true? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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oh god no, mine is fast as lightening, I am still amazed (after having it for more than one month) at how fast it is. Switching between apps is instant, browsing the gallery the same.
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oh god no, mine is fast as lightening, I am still amazed (after having it for more than one month) at how fast it is. Switching between apps is instant, browsing the gallery the same.
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I was reluctant to believe that it was laggy. Since it uses the same chipset as the nexus 4 or a better version. How is the heavy games performing? I know there plenty of videos regarding gaming reviews. But I just want a views from a user of xperia zr. Since its a little on the costly side for me and want to make sure it's worth it.
not so laggy . my zr is smooth when running apps . a little bit laggy when play heavy games ,but not so obvious . this is a great phone with a little cost :fingers-crossed:
hazimthat said:
not so laggy . my zr is smooth when running apps . a little bit laggy when play heavy games ,but not so obvious . this is a great phone with a little cost :fingers-crossed:
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You mean the Game lags are not much noticeable? I would be installing Asphalt 7, if I get this phone. How would xperia zr stand up to nexus 4 in performance section?
Mine is laggy, not all the time but if you keep screen on for about 10 minutes and launching apps after apps, it gets really laggy especially on Chrome. I even have display issues where black screen are displayed on certain apps for awhile before showing up. Not sure if it's because I have too many sync data and background apps going on but I don't understand how anyone can use a smartphone these days without a minimum of such things going on
grim_ripper said:
Mine is laggy, not all the time but if you keep screen on for about 10 minutes and launching apps after apps, it gets really laggy especially on Chrome. I even have display issues where black screen are displayed on certain apps for awhile before showing up. Not sure if it's because I have too many sync data and background apps going on but I don't understand how anyone can use a smartphone these days without a minimum of such things going on
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That sounds quite bad, mine definitely does not do that. However, I have to say Chrome is laggy on any kind of phone, I would never use it, especially because of that. I use Dolphin these days.
It will drop frames in heavy gaming because of overheat. it works well in gaming as long as you can keep it cool.
there is not lag in daily uses.
even Asphalt 8 can run smoothly on XZR
Well the phone is kinda brand new so.. in this price range its expected to be smooth and fast no doubt about it. The 2 gigs and 1.5 quad boy do the job.Have the phone from more than a month and I can tell you if u have the money go for it. the heating is abit ****ty when you play heavy games more than 30 min but every smatphone heats so..its not a big deal
ivanrvf said:
You mean the Game lags are not much noticeable? I would be installing Asphalt 7, if I get this phone. How would xperia zr stand up to nexus 4 in performance section?
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i think zr be able to play asphalt 7 with no lag .i already play asphalt 8 in my device ,no lag but overheat . dont play too long i think .
I have this Lags
imaix said:
I have this Lags
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Other than in the lockscreen, any lag in other area too?
I have been using my zr for about two months. Lag is virtually non existent. I am happy with the performance. Dead trigger plays very well. Only problems are heating during heavy gameplay like deadtrigger or using chrome and those flaps covering headphone jack and usb port. :thumbup:
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tudork said:
That sounds quite bad, mine definitely does not do that. However, I have to say Chrome is laggy on any kind of phone, I would never use it, especially because of that. I use Dolphin these days.
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I think it's just some games that just resource hogging and seems to cause those delay and black screens.
Sony roms are the most laggy roms ever (Specially if you have many background app running!) So expect some lag when connecting to internet
Not laggy. try factory reset.
Anyone who owns this device can tell me how this device handles tasks like browsing, Whatsapp, simple games like temple run, etc? Is there any lag while browsing? while moving between menus?
mazinya said:
Anyone who owns this device can tell me how this device handles tasks like browsing, Whatsapp, simple games like temple run, etc? Is there any lag while browsing? while moving between menus?
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This device is smooth. I don't find any lag while surfing internet, using social media sites or gaming.
It's not heating up while using. Display is bright and touch is smooth. Don't expect excellent performance from this phone. But this phone is damn good at a low price.
I dont need excellent flagship performance. Just a good device that wont lag while browsing, simple gaming or scrolling. good to know that its doing its job well. I was only concerned because of the 2gb of RAM which I thought might not be enough because MIUI is heavy skin and I was afraid the device will lag because of that
mazinya said:
Anyone who owns this device can tell me how this device handles tasks like browsing, Whatsapp, simple games like temple run, etc? Is there any lag while browsing? while moving between menus?
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Well i'm using this device for couple of months now & i'm yet to be disappointed. Sure, i was concerned about it's RAM but these devices are just great at RAM management but let me tell you, you'd get only around 900mb of the RAM to work around due to it's miui skin.
To sum up, it's a best buy for everyday tasks even for moderate gaming, like that of temple run & though miui is eating up a lot of resources… it's worth it.
If i was to purchase this, do i want the global one or the other one for north america?