Just wondering wich was the benefit on get SS on the phone if no one will be developing roms, or maybe im wrong and some ppl is developing already some CM, AOPK, Slim etc etc
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juancaperez2000 said:
Just wondering wich was the benefit on get SS on the phone if no one will be developing roms, or maybe im wrong and some ppl is developing already some CM, AOPK, Slim etc etc
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We need SS to have the ability to flash Roms. It doesn't do any good to have developed any Roms of there is no way for locked users to load them. Having SS is the first step in the right direction.
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SS allows me to run a rooted copy of the latest AT&T update (.54), and I can still flash back to the original firmware (.51) if I wanted to start over.
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AllDroid tweets @ 8:40am CST:
@mrweeeedbirdman boots alternate recovery on the DroidX. http://tiny.cc/BirdmanAltRecoveryOnDX Please RT.
I believe that deserves a **** YEAH!
jvward said:
I believe that deserves a **** YEAH!
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lol 10chars
At the risk of looking like a moron.. why is this exciting, exactly?
lowkee said:
At the risk of looking like a moron.. why is this exciting, exactly?
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It's all good man. Basically...with the encrypted bootloader, only "official" roms would allow the phone to boot. So if a custom rom was flashed, it would stay in recovery mode. With this, if everything goes right, the custom recovery will allow the flashing of roms and booting back into android. Hope that makes sense.
No risk. We're all here to help and learn.
The reason this is exciting is that it is the first step towards custom ROMs.
To explain further: Recovery is used on a stock phone to help you recover when you have screwed something up by taking you back to the same state the phone was in when you first unboxed it by loading the stock ROM. Loading a custom recovery, if 100% successful would then allow you to load custom ROMs. However, the X also has encryption that requires a signature on the ROM that is loaded before it will actually boot the phone with the custom ROM.
I think there is some stuff that I missed here but this is the general idea.
The one thing I'm not 100% certain of is if they're going need to work on the encryption still or if a custom recovery gets around that. In this case for some reason I'm getting the sense that the encryption isn't stopping birdman.
all i can say is gimmmmeeeeeeeeee
Great job, keep up the good work. Patiently waiting.
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Koush just tweeted a pic of clockwork recovery on the Dx
Clockwork recovery on droid x... http://yfrog.com/n2hiuj
via koush
Koush also deserves a **** YEAH!
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Koush also deserves a **** YEAH!
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This is huge. We should see custom ROMs shortly after we see a released CR.
Unfortunately, we'll only see custom roms with stock kernels, which isn't quite ideal. I'm still enthusiastic about this though.
True, but we will get a 2.2 kernel when Froyo is released for the X and that will make things just that much better.
I say we look at the fact that we're going to get custom ROMs on a device that is supposed to be totally locked down, even though we will not have custom kernels.
I realize we're not going to be able to truly load an overclocked our undervolted kernel. But the custom ROMs are going to rock.
Please pardon my noobiness here, but how does the kernel affect the roms we can load? Mainly can I load a CM 2.2 rom?
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Roms are in the future but kernels no
kernels not only help.you over clock but it effects the UI also but yea we can expect to see CM because of KOUSH
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Please pardon my noobiness here, but how does the kernel affect the roms we can load? Mainly can I load a CM 2.2 rom?
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Nspbass - the kernel is what talks to all of the hardware on your phone and we would have to have an unlocked bootloader to put custom kernels on the phone. To load a custom ROM without a custom kernel means someone has to port CM 2.2 over to the X by making it work on a 2.1 kernel and we won't have a true version of Froyo.
However, when we get the 2.2ota update our rockstar devs will very likely get under the covers and give us a full 2.2 version.
One the + side they do have a dev phone that has 2.2.1 on it so we may see it sooner than we think.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: Check this out - we MAY be able to load alternate kernels in the future without unlocking the bootloader: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aMPUcY71Yc
HUGE PROPS to Birdman and Alldroid!
Latest from koush:
"koush: Nandroid worked on the Droid X. Trying to figure out why I don't have adb in "recovery" now though."
Seriously, nandroid backups are priceless. Great to see that koush is working this!
Its been like 6 days since they loaded clockworkmod recovery and nothing has come out yet...there may be major issues, at this rate official group will be out sooner.
Just wish motorola would have left it stock android like they did the d1
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I am rooted on 4.1.1
Can I install safestrap and install custom ROMs?
If yes does the ROM have to use the same kernel that is on my phone already?
I have done standard recovery ROMs on my prior phones but have zero experience with locked boot loaders and custom ROMs. I was under the impression that with root I can modify system files but can't change the kernel???? Or am I way off?
Any guidance would be appreciated.
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Looks in the development section man.
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miketravis said:
I am rooted on 4.1.1
Can I install safestrap and install custom ROMs?
If yes does the ROM have to use the same kernel that is on my phone already?
I have done standard recovery ROMs on my prior phones but have zero experience with locked boot loaders and custom ROMs. I was under the impression that with root I can modify system files but can't change the kernel???? Or am I way off?
Any guidance would be appreciated.
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Yea but there are custom roms build from your stock rom. There are also CM builds but without kexec or an unlocked bootloader there is stuff broken. Dont forget to donate for unlocked bootloaders, we need it bad!
SirHoover2010 said:
Yea but there are custom roms build from your stock rom. There are also CM builds but without kexec or an unlocked bootloader there is stuff broken. Dont forget to donate for unlocked bootloaders, we need it bad!
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That's what I was thinking I just wanted to make sure before bricking my phone.
So I can install safestrap and then install.... say the joker ROM ...... or any other ROM built on the stock one but my mileage may vary.
And if I'm reading about safestrap right it doesn't overwrite stock it merely boots along side it.... kind of like a dual boot PC but using the same kernel? And if I want to OTA I can because stock is still intact?
Oh, and I was first to donate on the bounty
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miketravis said:
That's what I was thinking I just wanted to make sure before bricking my phone.
So I can install safestrap and then install.... say the joker ROM ...... or any other ROM built on the stock one but my mileage may vary.
And if I'm reading about safestrap right it doesn't overwrite stock it merely boots along side it.... kind of like a dual boot PC but using the same kernel? And if I want to OTA I can because stock is still intact?
Oh, and I was first to donate on the bounty
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Right on man. Create a rom slot and it never touches stock partition. Joker is good, but the rom I am working on now. It will be amazing
Installed safestrap, check.
Downloaded JokerROM and gApps, check.
Backup of stock, check.
New ROM slot, check.
Flashed JokerROM, check.
Doubling my bounty offer for BL unlock, check.
Loving my much faster Atrix, to be continued.
Thanks to all who contributed to at least having this ability so far!
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I'm sure someone will be able to answer this super easily.
I'm new to rooting and ROMs, I just rooted my 4x hd yesterday and after being blown away at how easy it was, I'm now considering flashing a rom.
I've read around that you can get things that let you select the rom you want on boot. I was wondering if I could do this with the stock rom and cyanogenmod?
Do I have to partition the internal storage or something?
Also I'm pretty sure when you flash a new rom you loose apps and other data but can someone confirm this for me please?
And one final question. What's your favourite stable rom for the 4x hd? If I am able to switch between ROMs like that, I might add another I want to get close to vanilla if I can.
I am on version 20a stock rom android 4.2
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I'm sure someone will be able to answer this super easily.
I'm new to rooting and ROMs, I just rooted my 4x hd yesterday and after being blown away at how easy it was, I'm now considering flashing a rom.
I've read around that you can get things that let you select the rom you want on boot. I was wondering if I could do this with the stock rom and cyanogenmod?
Do I have to partition the internal storage or something?
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No and no, we don't have multi-boot for our device.
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Also I'm pretty sure when you flash a new rom you loose apps and other data but can someone confirm this for me please?
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Yes
prodigydoo said:
And one final question. What's your favourite stable rom for the 4x hd? If I am able to switch between ROMs like that, I might add another I want to get close to vanilla if I can.
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'Favourite' ROM questions aren't allowed on XDA as you will get 12 different answers from 10 different people.
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I am on version 20a stock rom android 4.2
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No, you're on v4.1.2 if you're running stock ROM. But you could have found all those answers by searching first.
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No and no, we don't have multi-boot for our device.
Yes
'Favourite' ROM questions aren't allowed on XDA as you will get 12 different answers from 10 different people.
No, you're on v4.1.2 if you're running stock ROM. But you could have found all those answers by searching first.
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Thanks for your help
I had been searching around but I just wasn't sure about all of this.
Its a pity we can't multi boot
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I prefer werewolfJB rom.. Its so stable and Nice and it has a kernel too!
I can't find a single Sprint ROM in this forum except stock...
Verizon even uses CDMA and their bootloader I thought was more difficult to unlock as well..
I'm sitting here all rooted and bootloader unlocked on Sprint and can't flash anything except stock.
Any reason why/any devs working on Sprint ROMs?
Or are there any Sprint ROMs that I've just missed/are there any compatible (they all say VZW/GSM)?
-If not, please consider this a formal request :cyclops:
Thanks in advance!
***If there are any that are currently compatible please reply/list here for myself and others
Vonsk said:
I can't find a single Sprint ROM in this forum except stock...
Verizon even uses CDMA and their bootloader I thought was more difficult to unlock as well..
I'm sitting here all rooted and bootloader unlocked on Sprint and can't flash anything except stock.
Any reason why/any devs working on Sprint ROMs?
Or are there any Sprint ROMs that I've just missed/are there any compatible (they all say VZW/GSM)?
-If not, please consider this a formal request :cyclops:
Thanks in advance!
***If there are any that are currently compatible please reply/list here for myself and others
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Have you tried a Verizon rom on Sprint? I am sure a few things need tweaked but might be something to look at..
I've asked the same about US Cellular...it's just that no developer has surfaced on those carriers much for some reason... :what: (at least sprints still got more Dev going on then US Cellular) I'm unlocked as well. (Seems for no reason, though root is nice)
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Have you tried a Verizon rom on Sprint?
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I have not because all of the ROMs say GSM variants or name Verizon specifically, as well as asking a few other sprint xda users and they all say the same thing- "I don't think there are any for Sprint right now except stock."
If you are recommending this, can you name one that would be the safest bet?
Thanks
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Why don't you flash a vzw ROM? I have the gsm version and I can flash all Roms for the gsm variant, T-Mobile,at&t and rogers Roms without issue
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Request in the developement thread ...really . -1
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Why don't you flash a vzw ROM? I have the gsm version and I can flash all Roms for the gsm variant, T-Mobile,at&t and rogers Roms without issue
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I tried that one once, no go.
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I tried that one once, no go.
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Which ROM? Just to make you feel better, all the custom ROMs are not daily drivers cm11 has camera,sound and some her minor issues, gummy ROM has the same issues, so the stock ROM is by far the best ROM and xposed only makes it that much better
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Honestly this phone is a stock style phone. If you want a more mods try using the Xposed framework and modules if you haven't already. Look for the Gravity box module and install. It allows for modification to your lockscreen, nav bar, status bar, reboot menu, quick tiles, clock, battery mods, pie controls, etc. I went back to stock rooted on my Nexus 7 as well because of Xposed much better experience than running cm or other variants. Hope this helps your phone experience. I included a link to the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
[FRAMEWORK ONLY!] Xposed - ROM modding without modifying APKs (2.4.1)(02.12.2013)
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flashallthetime said:
Which ROM? Just to make you feel better, all the custom ROMs are not daily drivers cm11 has camera,sound and some her minor issues, gummy ROM has the same issues, so the stock ROM is by far the best ROM and xposed only makes it that much better
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Out of curiosity I had tried one of the stock modded Verizon roms. To be honest I really don't see the need so much for a custom ROM on this phone either, especially with xposed, however the one thing I would like to see is a good custom kernel or two. I would like to try some CPU and GPU overclocking just to see what kind of results we could get.
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I agree with the post above I just picked this phone up yesterday rooted installed exposed and use gravity box for all my customizing and V4A works so I'm happy. A custom kernel would be nice with faux sound just to give the headset a slight boost when listening to music on headphones the speaker sounds just as good as the Htc one so called boom sound
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After installing xposed frame work and gravity box don't see any need for custom ROM. Kind of reminds me of MOAR ROM on GS3.
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It would be sweet to have theme chooser that all I miss .
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It would be sweet to have theme chooser that all I miss .
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Yea theme chooser would be nice but with 4.4 and the faded nav bar and status bar is pretty sweet though
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I could probably live without Theme Chooser thanks to the Closed Framework. But I'd kill for some inverted 4.4 gapps. It does kinda suck not having some Sprint ROMs to flash and try out, though.
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I could probably live without Theme Chooser thanks to the Closed Framework. But I'd kill for some inverted 4.4 gapps. It does kinda suck not having some Sprint ROMs to flash and try out, though.
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I've been using inverted gmail, Google now, play store, calendar, dropbox, play music and drive since I got the phone, use teamblacks gapps and manually push them to system apps folder
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What's needed to be able to install a vzw based rom for sprint? I'd like to dual boot stock and cm11 but it is only for vzw and gsm.
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i would have figured some moto devs from the photon/photon q woulda have made it over here by now :/
i applied for moto financing and if im approved i plan on getting the gsm one, but if i get it i can at least fork out and get some aosp roms going for sprint/usc for whatever ones i do build.
shabbypenguin said:
i would have figured some moto devs from the photon/photon q woulda have made it over here by now :/
i applied for moto financing and if im approved i plan on getting the gsm one, but if i get it i can at least fork out and get some aosp roms going for sprint/usc for whatever ones i do build.
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Well well looky who we got here. Long time no see Shabby lol. I think last time I saw you was on the SGS II forums. Sure would love a few roms for the Sprint Moto X
Hey all,
Does anyone think when lollipop is released for our devices that maybe a talented dev would build a stock lollipop rom with bloatware removed and maybe some custom tweaks like built in wifi tether?
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Nybs31 said:
Hey all,
Does anyone think when lollipop is released for our devices that maybe a talented dev would build a stock lollipop rom with bloatware removed and maybe some custom tweaks like built in wifi tether?
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We first need to get our device tree situated and bring it up for Lollipop and idk if our recoveries will work on Lollipop but don't worry soon we will have custom roms
we can only hope
No custom development or our device?
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Murshad007 said:
No custom development or our device?
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Actually i have begun work and i am making progress but i need to remove that loki tools bs from our sources. I wish i had more help from other devs as i have compiled AOSPA 4.6 successfully but it wont flash . tried several things like removing getprop crap from updater script and removing recovery folder which its kind of useless since it compiled for use for loki i just need to figure out which files i need to remove or modify.
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Actually i have begun work and i am making progress but i need to remove that loki tools bs from our sources. I wish i had more help from other devs as i have compiled AOSPA 4.6 successfully but it wont flash . tried several things like removing getprop crap from updater script and removing recovery folder which its kind of useless since it compiled for use for loki i just need to figure out which files i need to remove or modify.
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Glad your making progress but will this be a universal rom or for a particular model of the flex and cant you post a dev post to see if other devs can poke around ans see if they can point you in the right direction
I have the update on my phone but i havent updated since i like root, if i can, do yiu want the update files? (Sprint)