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How many are happy or not happy.

Just wanna know how many people are happy with this phone and keeping it.
Vs
Returning it.
Besides the obvious bugs/screen etc.
I like it but I don't love it but not enough to return it.
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Love it. Keeping it.

Keeping it fersure... getting 10megabits down with 6/up. snappy and fast... rooted here.
came from a droid incredible with a dope rom from skyraider... I was running for 36 hours at a time with no kernel changes or undervolt... so my only complaint is the batt life sucks in comparison.

r4ph said:
Keeping it fersure... getting 10megabits down with 6/up. snappy and fast... rooted here.
came from a droid incredible with a dope rom from skyraider... I was running for 36 hours at a time with no kernel changes or undervolt... so my only complaint is the batt life sucks in comparison.
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Welcome to 4G. Its not the phone its 4G that sucks your battery. I will say this; The bionic is by FAR the best on battery life compared to all 4G phones on the market right now.

I adore it. I came from a Moto Droid that had a display that died on me, so I was waiting for this.
Yeah, the screen's pixels are a little annoying at times, but other than that its speeds are INCREDIBLE, the new motoblur or whatever it is called now isn't obtrusive (the phone is actually fast enough to run it where it is actually attractive), and best of all it feels great in the hand.
Also, the extended battery's replacement back for the phone doesn't add that much width to it, making it a really good purchase. Shame none of the cases they had in stock support the extended battery.
One thing that I think people ignore when writing about new phones is the sound quality, and many people I have called are astounded when I tell them that I'm on a cell phone. I was on the highway going 60 mph with the windows and roof open, trucks all around me, and my dad thought I was on a landline when I called him. However they made the microphone, they got it down perfectly.
Now, I *NEEDED* a phone because of work, so it isn't an option to wait for the Droid Prime or the iPhone 5. Am I happy with the Bionic? Absolutely. Would I have waited for an even better phone if I could have? Perhaps.
I feel like when phones come out, they are outdated within a few days unless it's an iPhone. Eventually you have to bite the bullet, and I think that the Bionic is the best bullet I've ever bitten into!

Feoen said:
I adore it. I came from a Moto Droid that had a display that died on me, so I was waiting for this.
Yeah, the screen's pixels are a little annoying at times, but other than that its speeds are INCREDIBLE, the new motoblur or whatever it is called now isn't obtrusive (the phone is actually fast enough to run it where it is actually attractive), and best of all it feels great in the hand.
Also, the extended battery's replacement back for the phone doesn't add that much width to it, making it a really good purchase. Shame none of the cases they had in stock support the extended battery.
One thing that I think people ignore when writing about new phones is the sound quality, and many people I have called are astounded when I tell them that I'm on a cell phone. I was on the highway going 60 mph with the windows and roof open, trucks all around me, and my dad thought I was on a landline when I called him. However they made the microphone, they got it down perfectly.
Now, I *NEEDED* a phone because of work, so it isn't an option to wait for the Droid Prime or the iPhone 5. Am I happy with the Bionic? Absolutely. Would I have waited for an even better phone if I could have? Perhaps.
I feel like when phones come out, they are outdated within a few days unless it's an iPhone. Eventually you have to bite the bullet, and I think that the Bionic is the best bullet I've ever bitten into!
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Yes the sound quality is superb. I don't sound like a robot coming from tb. My battery is awesome. From 630 to 12 only down 30% moderate use and that's alot. Glad that some peeps are happy.
Ill love it once I root this bad boy and get things going but man in so scared scratching this phone lol out of all th phones I've own this is the mother load of trying not to get it nik or so. It's so shiney and im ocd. About my phones lol. The case I got was from Verizon its that double layer case with ruber and hard screen and I like that.
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Case that i bought was already fitted for extended battery so i asked the rep how do i get extended battery and he said that he had one in the back bought it and been on battery since then phone is great keeping
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I also love my Bionic, having upgraded from the Droid I. The only thing which I think it's missing is a widget to turn on/off the 4g. Other then the already mentioned 4g battery woes it's awesome.

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I also love my Bionic, having upgraded from the Droid I. The only thing which I think it's missing is a widget to turn on/off the 4g. Other then the already mentioned 4g battery woes it's awesome.
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CM7 on the Tbolt has a toggle, but ya, I can see this as a pain on this phone. However, if you are using 4G - try juice defender. When the screen is off it will turn off data (and you can have your data turn on however often you wish to check for new data etc).
Highly recommend it.

I had to charge my phone yesterday twice. I went about 1.6hrs on the original charge then fully charged it. With heavy use it needed a charge around bedtime(2130). Today I got it off the charger at 0530 and used it heavy for about 40 mins, then barely touched it and it's at 70%. I have juice defender and it set to CDMA only. I do not like the battery life so far but I has ATK on it. I took it off and will see how it goes. I think the task killer is more harm then good.

Does anyone know the battery life with 4G turned off?
No 4G at all in my state yet, but our area should be getting it this year.

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I had to charge my phone yesterday twice. I went about 1.6hrs on the original charge then fully charged it. With heavy use it needed a charge around bedtime(2130). Today I got it off the charger at 0530 and used it heavy for about 40 mins, then barely touched it and it's at 70%. I have juice defender and it set to CDMA only. I do not like the battery life so far but I has ATK on it. I took it off and will see how it goes. I think the task killer is more harm then good.
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Yeah and I would imagine there is a lot of bloat that can be removed with custom ROM's or tweaking CPU settings.
//oops.. double post.

I am so temped to say forget and go back to old faithful.... Ip4. I can go like two entire days on a single charge. I admit I have never used an android phone without the ATK. Maybe that's my problem.....

I like it coming from two Htc phones. Im only having an issue with the vibrate sounding really annoying like its broken and the battery only dropping by the 10's. It dropped from 100 to 90 then to 80%. Nothing in between. Im on an extended battery and seems to be doing okay so far.
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How bad is the thickness with the extended battery, VZW is selling them local for 25 bux

And the battery by 10s is normal for the new motorola phones

Keeping. Best 4g phone on Verizon
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Toss me in on a keeper.
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Toss me in on a keeper.
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Myself as well. My only complaint is that with the extended battery it makes it feel like I'm holding a brick when compared to regular battery, but that's a small complaint considering how well the battery performs... It's just how thin the device is when compared to other LTE devices with regular battery...

Rooted in seconds and im really happy with it now. Just make sure you update the bb binary once rooted. It makes a hell of a difference imo
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Bionic is great! But Droid Razr better?

I got the Bionic a couple weeks ago and it's been pretty awesome so far. But I saw the Razr pop up (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...l-core-processor-lte-support/?tag=epicStories) and kind of got bad a feeling that I shouldn't have been so hasty getting the Bionic.

I lost sleep over this too. Ultimately I resolved that I'd keep my Bionic. I can only imagine what the phones on the horizon with a 720p res display are going to do to the battery. Also, until we see more phones with the Ice Cream Sandwich O/S, I'm staying put.

Yeah, that RAZR is straight doinggggggggggggg

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I got the Bionic a couple weeks ago and it's been pretty awesome so far. But I saw the Razr pop up (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...l-core-processor-lte-support/?tag=epicStories) and kind of got bad a feeling that I shouldn't have been so hasty getting the Bionic.
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Honestly, this is how it's going to be for any piece of electronics you buy. "This is good but the next thing is better." If you keep waiting for the best thing ever you probably will never get anything. I say stick it out w the Bionic and when your upgrade comes up I'm sure the RAZR will look like Zach Morris' phone from Saved by the Bell (OK maybe not that bad).

I hear you
I get it no one wants to get a phone a 2 months later its replaced by a better one.however I love the bionic I have had one or two glitches unlike others I just got lucky. Its super fast I think the screen looks great and I watch Netflix. The pentile screen also uses a small amount o of battery compared to the other screens

id return my bionic if you guys updated from the charge or thunderbolt and wait for this droid razr, its going to be sick
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They won't post a release date until last minute. I think the Bionic was a placeholder at this point, they just wanted the name to make them money. This device will probably be leaps(maybe not bounds) better.

I don't think it will be a huge improvement.. Honestly as of right now I see no need to upgrade my phone I have yet to find anything that would slow down my phone. Never really experienced lag and flash runs smooth... After I installed DroidTh3ory's ROM my phone has had 100x better battery life as well...

It's announced today - coming early Nov to VZW
From PC World's review
There's a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, a 4.3-inch Super AMOLED qHD display (that's 960-pixel by 540-pixel resolution), an 8-megapixel rear-facing camera with 1080p video capture, an HD front-facing camera, and 32 GB of memory, split between internal storage and a microSD card. It's also a 4G LTE phone.
On the outside, the Droid Razr sports laser-cut woven Kevlar fiber and a Gorilla Glass display, highlighted by aluminum accents and wrapped around a stainless steel core. A splash guard is designed to protect the phone from flying liquids.
Motorola's stuffed a 1,780 mAh battery into the Droid Razr, and claims that will give a user 12.5 hours of 3G talk time or 8.9 hours of video playback
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It's announced today - coming early Nov to VZW
From PC World's review
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Yup, I've been tracking it all morning. So as of now, I'm on the fence about selling my Bionic for that bad boy. What to do, what to do?

Sure the material looks better in theory, same RAM 200 mhz more? Wonder how much extra performance you will see. Super Amoled with pentile subpixel display right? Not sure about this one team, I also feel kinda torn.

I currently have a partially working Thunderbolt and was going to switch out for a Bionic on Friday, until I saw the RAZR announcement this morning. I went over the specs and hardware/software wise there are no major differences whatsoever... The appeal of the RAZR seems to be it's design. It's "pretty" and built to take a beating. Looks like you could beat someone to death with it and it will still function 100%.
I am now debating if I should still get the Bionic or hold on to this Thunderbolt a bit longer and get the RAZR. What bothers me is they say they are taking pre-orders on the 27th but no one(not even Verizon) will say when the phone will actually be released.

In b4 we see an article "Nerd beat to death by RAZR smartphone... PZNERD"

2-3 months after the RAZR comes out, HTC or Samsung will release something you wish you would have waited for. I waited 10 months for the BIONIC, I'm going to enjoy this badboy for as long as I can. I've learned not to look forward to any more phones in the future. Unless you are willing to buy a new phone every 2-3 months, you will never have the best for long.
Maybe Verizon should consider leasing these phones as the technology is growing faster than most people's wallets can afford.
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How much you all want to bet the GSIII will be out by February? That'll be the phone of all phones.

While the Razr does look good it doesn't look like it will be leaps and abounds above the bionic, plus it has a locked bootloader also, so you would be in the same no custom kernal boat. With DroidTh3ory's Blurr3d and D3Blurr3ed ROMs i don't see the need to jump ship yet. Now maybe when the Nexus or another powerful phone with an unlocked bootloader comes out then i would consider it, but after investing the money in the Bionic i couldn't imagine paying full retail price, probably between $500-$600, for another phone so quickly.

There will ALWAYS be something better in the future! Get what you want and enjoy it. Don't beat yourself up for buying what you have because a new one is coming out soon. And those of you without a bionic, don't b*tch at people who have it by saying they should have waited.
The Bionic is a great piece of work.
Of course there will be better phones soon, but Android can always put out an update that makes the current devices even better.
~INB4 i smack somebody~

I think the Bionic will be a better phone because they will probably try and make the razor too sleek and have to sacrifice things such as battery life and hardware just my 2 cents

Non-removable battery yuck. Wonder if the prime will be the same?

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Non-removable battery yuck. Wonder if the prime will be the same?
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I like having an external battery so I can pop it out when needed...
And...internal battery means no Extended Battery...you're stuck with what ya got.

Switching to DROID 4

Just wondering if anyone else is thinking about going to the Droid 4 , and why? I am actually very happy with my Droid 3 but am still considering upgrading for the 4g.
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Just wondering if anyone else is thinking about going to the Droid 4 , and why? I am actually very happy with my Droid 3 but am still considering upgrading for the 4g.
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Not me. I'm sticking to my policy of never spending more than $50 which is why I just recently got ,my droid 3 brand new with my two year renewal. Got my wife's free with her renewal a week later. So in two more years will get a Droid 5 or 6 or whatever is the 6 month old but already EOL phone for $50 or less. By the way, the phones we upgraded from were Droid 1's that we got 2 for $99.
Droid 3 is good for me

Yep I got mine for a penny and the idea of spending 199 plus accessories just doesn't seem worth it. I'm not a power user and actually had a razr and turned it in to best buy because the battery life on 4g is terrible , and was having trouble dropping data when 3g 4g was switching. So far D3 has had no trouble. Probably just gonna buy a car dock and save the money. Thanks for the input.
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The Droid 4 isn't much of an upgrade.
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order d1 great d2 sucks d3 good d4 meh d5 well see
but for now i like having a removable battery
i own d1 and d3
next will hopefully be d5

I'm gonna get it because I can afford it.
Why? Because it is newer, better, cooler.
Most ppl can't afford to keep up with tech,
most ppl don't NEED the latest and greatest..
I do
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jellman said:
order d1 great d2 sucks d3 good d4 meh d5 well see
but for now i like having a removable battery
i own d1 and d3
next will hopefully be d5
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Yes, I also have D1 and D3. The D3 actually replaced the D1. I'm thinking about putting the D1 on ebay. Its rooted and overclocks easily and is running the latest CM7 release. I'm betting I can get back the $50 I spent on the Droid 3 from someone who wants a phone that is easy to tinker with.

ratman6161 said:
Yes, I also have D1 and D3. The D3 actually replaced the D1. I'm thinking about putting the D1 on ebay. Its rooted and overclocks easily and is running the latest CM7 release. I'm betting I can get back the $50 I spent on the Droid 3 from someone who wants a phone that is easy to tinker with.
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Let me check that its compatible with my network and il give you 40
Edit: it is apparently. It would be nice to have an easily moddable phone that has a bunch of dev on it
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jellman said:
order d1 great d2 sucks d3 good d4 meh d5 well see
but for now i like having a removable battery
i own d1 and d3
next will hopefully be d5
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I've had a D1,D2, and D3. My favorite is still the D2. I switched to the D3 for the keyboard. Performance wise, D2 on cm7 and D3 on debloated are about the same. I'm not a power user, so battery life doesn't matter to me too much as long as I can get a full day.
Also, My D2 is really a MS2, but its the same thing.

The Droid 4 is basically the Droid 3 without the "chin", plus 0.2ghz, which is going to be doable in a very short time (I hope =P) and more ram (ok, this is nice). Keyboard and camera are the same. Not quite a great upgrade.
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I've had a D1,D2, and D3. My favorite is still the D2. I switched to the D3 for the keyboard. Performance wise, D2 on cm7 and D3 on debloated are about the same. I'm not a power user, so battery life doesn't matter to me too much as long as I can get a full day.
Also, My D2 is really a MS2, but its the same thing.
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I too like the D2 or MS2 better than the D3, I think I was more used of it, but my MS2 found a wild toalette and died.
I really liked that phone =(

4g LTE, more ram, .2 ghz extra, no removable battery and no chin

mtva24 said:
4g LTE, more ram, .2 ghz extra, no removable battery and no chin
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Kevlar backing, water resistance...
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Endoroid said:
Let me check that its compatible with my network and il give you 40
Edit: it is apparently. It would be nice to have an easily moddable phone that has a bunch of dev on it
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Guess I'll think about it but will try ebay first.

Anyone call Verizon trying to get a free or discounted droid 4 yet because of the early release?

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Kevlar backing, water resistance...
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You mean plastic backing - right? And water repellent. Definitely won't survive submerging.
I also have all of them - D1 - (MS1 actually), Droid 2 (Global) and Droid 3 (XT860 4G to be precise). My favorite still seem to be the D2G. D3 was a disappointment mostly due to 1/2G ram and (for me) the pentile screen.
D4 seems well balanced phone - I like the look. They fixed the RAM issue, but left screen the same as on D3 (major let down!) At least they could have placed the screen from ATRIX2!
Verizon 4GLTE does nothing for me since I am not in US 99% of the time.
Judging from the reviews, phone seem to move quite smooth thanks to the expanded memory.
Bottomline - if they release HSPA/LTE variant that works with Canadian operators, I will consider it.

Just got the Droid 4. Came over from sprint. I had an epic 4g. Sprints service was not the best but from everyone i have talked to and everything that i have read, Verizon is the way to go.

I don't feel to ripped off TBH. After a DX and now a D3, I know I'll never go back to Moto. The DX was my learner phone that was kept stock, this one I've ROM'd and what not, but the locked bootloader issue annoys me beyond belief...I'm going to Samsung next. GNex or wait for Galaxy S 3 (potentially quad core)?
Also, for this reason...no ICS...no .
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Android 2.3.5 (Gingerbread) OS with Motorola Application Platform
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Got the Droid 4 today, love it. Very smooth and fast. For me it was worth it to get the 4G.
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Can any D4 owner tell m eif the D4 also supports GSM & 3G (UMTS) or HSPDA?
I'm looking to buy a D4 and use it in Europe.... (Netherlands)

redsox985 said:
I don't feel to ripped off TBH. After a DX and now a D3, I know I'll never go back to Moto. The DX was my learner phone that was kept stock, this one I've ROM'd and what not, but the locked bootloader issue annoys me beyond belief...I'm going to Samsung next. GNex or wait for Galaxy S 3 (potentially quad core)?
Also, for this reason...no ICS...no .
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lol dumped my d3 for the gnex.. i've had the d1 d2 d3 dx dx2.... etc Gnex Is EPIC
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Can any D4 owner tell m eif the D4 also supports GSM & 3G (UMTS) or HSPDA?
I'm looking to buy a D4 and use it in Europe.... (Netherlands)
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Probably, locked in the us... but in europe it shouldn't be... Hope theres a Chinese radio thing for the d4

Worth it?

I want to hear from yall who trade the s3 or 1x for to get the atrix hd. I work at a place that has it and playing around with it is smooth. I have the one x and the screen on the ahd looks a little better with detailed video and all that. Is it worth trading my one x for or selling to get the phone?
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I will let you know over the weekend
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I would take the Atrix HD over the One X
But I'd take the SGS3 over both.
A lot of the people who got the One X traded down to an Atrix HD
Battery life sucked the first two days I had it. I started using SmartActions and the battery extender that comes with it plus juice defender. I used my phone all day yesterday, I left it off the charger and still had 53% on my battery at noon the next day.
Thats about the same life span as an Iphone.
Hardware performance is great out of the SGS3 and the One X the Atrix HD is just as fast, or faster. Once it's rooted and some changes can be made to the build.prop I see the Atrix HD beating the SGS3 easy in performance. The LTE performance is worth it, and the Atrix HD keeps up with it well.
The phone feels solid, no loose parts that rattle, and the construction feels solid with no feeling of plastic flexing when holding the phone. The Kevlar weave pattern on the back look modern and the rubberish feel makes it secure in your hand for calls.
People complain about the Camera, but it could be a lot worse. For the most part its an improvement over the Atrix 2 which it replaced.
I use the Facial recognition and the front 1.3mp camera hasn't had any problems picking up my face in sunlight or indoor low light.
All of the camera issues can be solved if you know how to setup your shots instead of relying on software to auto focus & auto iso.
The One X just felt like a toy in my hand, and I couldnt stand the UI. The SGS3 is nice, but for the price I expected far better build quality, and the touchwiz launcher is downright ugly and belongs on the Iphone. With the Atrix HD everything is as close to stock as you can get except for the launcher and Circles widget.

Thanks for replying we have it at Wal-Mart wireless where I work and it cool just can't rely test it as much as I would like without getting caught playing with it all day. I had the s3 for about 3 days and didn't like it because of touchwiz. I like how the ui is basically stock android with Motorola's icons. It runs smooth without it being plugged in to these horrible chargers here at Wal-Mart which ruin these phones. I don't mind the little lose in the screen size since its not a big difference. Screen to me seems more detail than one x and colors pop more to me mabe not to someone else's eyes the only thing that I'm questioning is battery life since some say it's not good but if the smart actions work and the battery saver part does well then maybe I'll like it
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Thanks for replying we have it at Wal-Mart wireless where I work and it cool just can't rely test it as much as I would like without getting caught playing with it all day. I had the s3 for about 3 days and didn't like it because of touchwiz. I like how the ui is basically stock android with Motorola's icons. It runs smooth without it being plugged in to these horrible chargers here at Wal-Mart which ruin these phones. I don't mind the little lose in the screen size since its not a big difference. Screen to me seems more detail than one x and colors pop more to me mabe not to someone else's eyes the only thing that I'm questioning is battery life since some say it's not good but if the smart actions work and the battery saver part does well then maybe I'll like it
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If you didnt like the S3 and you dont like the One X, then you'll really like the Atrix HD.
At least I did and I know a few others who traded down from the SGS3 and love the HD
I got my Motorola Atrix HD in the black color cause I didnt see the white one, but they both look really sexy.
Edit: I hated touchwiz. I had it on my Captivate before I switched to Cyanogen. I miss my Captivate.

I love the one x but I've always like Motorola I had the photon on sprint I liked it a lot but I'm just one to go from one phone to the next. I put my sim in it and it picked up better signal and data speed than my one x where I'm at. Constantly. I'm in hspa+ and got average of 5 mps while the one x is 2-4
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I dont get 4g in my house, but my 4g LTE coverage is awesome around here. I Constantly see 20-25Mbs Download and 15Mbs upload from my Atrix HD
It has a better Upload speed than my cable internet.

should I buy the D4

Everyone here owns one I assume.
Should I buy a droid 4?
And what are the pros and cons?
Online video reviews are way to biased

It's all up to you. If you MUST have a physical QWERTY keyboard, then it's probably one of the best choices, but here's my own list of pros and cons:
Pros:
-Decent dual core processor, can be overclocked up to 1.4 GHz using myfishbear's scripts
-One of the best hardware keyboards you can find on a phone
-Build quality is good, feels sturdy
-Call quality is clear, haven't had any dropped calls
-Screen is pretty bright when you need it to be
-Loudspeaker is... loud.
-4G speeds are supposed to be good, but I haven't tried
-8MP camera with 1080p video
-Docks available (I use a Motorola Atrix 4G dock that I bought for a cheap price, modified it a bit and works fine)
-Global use possible due with GSM
Cons:
-Screen's Pentile - nowhere near as clear as a non-pentile screen, e.g. HTC One X, it's not HD, and black levels aren't low enough at high screen brightness
-Camera's photos may be slightly washed out, definitely doesn't beat an iPhone 4S (as much as I hate to admit it)
-Limited ROM activity, like most Motorola phones (but there are good ones available)
-Accessories limited, as with all hardware keyboard phones (few choices in cases, etc.)
-Interface lags behind slightly at times, but very little
-Internals are outdated as of 2013, since quad-cores are the rage now
-Battery life won't last with heavy use
At present, the Droid 4 is close to the best you can get with a hardware keyboard, but don't expect the screen to astound you like the newer models' would. If you want a hardware keyboard and can wait, I'd suggest waiting for a successor, maybe a Droid 5.

Droid 5? Somehow I doubt that will ever come out. :-/

nicholaslimck said:
It's all up to you. If you MUST have a physical QWERTY keyboard, then it's probably one of the best choices, but here's my own list of pros and cons:
Pros:
-Decent dual core processor, can be overclocked up to 1.4 GHz using myfishbear's scripts
-One of the best hardware keyboards you can find on a phone
-Build quality is good, feels sturdy
-Call quality is clear, haven't had any dropped calls
-Screen is pretty bright when you need it to be
-Loudspeaker is... loud.
-4G speeds are supposed to be good, but I haven't tried
-8MP camera with 1080p video
-Docks available (I use a Motorola Atrix 4G dock that I bought for a cheap price, modified it a bit and works fine)
-Global use possible due with GSM
Cons:
-Screen's Pentile - nowhere near as clear as a non-pentile screen, e.g. HTC One X, it's not HD, and black levels aren't low enough at high screen brightness
-Camera's photos may be slightly washed out, definitely doesn't beat an iPhone 4S (as much as I hate to admit it)
-Limited ROM activity, like most Motorola phones (but there are good ones available)
-Accessories limited, as with all hardware keyboard phones (few choices in cases, etc.)
-Interface lags behind slightly at times, but very little
-Internals are outdated as of 2013, since quad-cores are the rage now
-Battery life won't last with heavy use
At present, the Droid 4 is close to the best you can get with a hardware keyboard, but don't expect the screen to astound you like the newer models' would. If you want a hardware keyboard and can wait, I'd suggest waiting for a successor, maybe a Droid 5.
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Ya right now I have the razr hd and I realized I really want a full keyboard.
My main concern is battery, I am a texter and thsts about all I do....will it last me a day?

harecurtis said:
Ya right now I have the razr hd and I realized I really want a full keyboard.
My main concern is battery, I am a texter and thsts about all I do....will it last me a day?
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If you're mainly going to text, I can't see why it shouldn't last a day - as long as the screen brightness is kept low, and the Wi-fi off. You should try one out if you can first, to see if the screen's not a bother for you.

nicholaslimck said:
If you're mainly going to text, I can't see why it shouldn't last a day - as long as the screen brightness is kept low, and the Wi-fi off. You should try one out if you can first, to see if the screen's not a bother for you.
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Ya I met a guy on craigslist, and didnt like the build quality
to me it seemed like a bionic with a keyboard and like a brick
Ill just wait til the droid 5 (IF there is one)
but the D4 is a decent phone im sure

Droid 5? Feel like 30/70 it wont happen. How much did the guy want for the phone?

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Droid 5? Feel like 30/70 it wont happen. How much did the guy want for the phone?
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We agreed on a trade;
My razr hd for his droid 4 plus $100
We met and I felt the droid 4 was too bulky and not and style at all, so i said no

I don't know about the 100$ with it... just my opinion.. good thing you didn't get it...
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dbreezy187 said:
I don't know about the 100$ with it... just my opinion.. good thing you didn't get it...
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I gave in, the same guy met with me today (he works at verizon)
he gave me $50 and a brand new droid 4
and I gotta say, im impressed
I just hope theres a droid 5, but from what i read it looks slim:/
but hey if there is a droid 5 someday and its anything like the droid 4 (just better) ill buy it
and i know this isnt the right place to ask but.......jellybean soon?

How much is the Razr HD? You can get the D4 on ebay for $140 - 190, any day of the week.

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I gave in, the same guy met with me today (he works at verizon)
he gave me $50 and a brand new droid 4
and I gotta say, im impressed
I just hope theres a droid 5, but from what i read it looks slim:/
but hey if there is a droid 5 someday and its anything like the droid 4 (just better) ill buy it
and i know this isnt the right place to ask but.......jellybean soon?
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JB was announced, but unlikely before summer imo. You got shafted my friend. People who are having problems, ie broken droid 4s are being given droid razr hds. I only use keyboards, thus only the droid line....put your phone in 3g and be happy. Batter life isn't bad per se, it is small however at 1785mah. Other than that, the phone is excellent. Screen is too bright for me, but that can be fixed.

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JB was announced, but unlikely before summer imo. You got shafted my friend. People who are having problems, ie broken droid 4s are being given droid razr hds. I only use keyboards, thus only the droid line....put your phone in 3g and be happy. Batter life isn't bad per se, it is small however at 1785mah. Other than that, the phone is excellent. Screen is too bright for me, but that can be fixed.
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I didnt do too bad though....I payed $199 at verizon...send a $50 rebate (so I only payed $149) and the guy gave me $50
so I essentially payed $100 for a sealed Droid 4
and im much happier as of right now
I do miss the HD screen and the big screen BUT i love the keyboard and to me its worth it

I miss read what you said... I thought you had to pay him the 100... I just sat mine on my stove... bye bye warranty... hello root...
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dbreezy187 said:
I miss read what you said... I thought you had to pay him the 100... I just sat mine on my stove... bye bye warranty... hello root...
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NO NO haha ide never do such a thing
i went to verizon and got my upgrade to razr HD (payed $199)
then verizon has a rebate for $50 (so take of $50 from that and now I only payed $150 for razr HD)
then met guy from CL, he gave me $50 plus a new droid 4
so in all actuality I only spent $100 to get this phone (with contract)
and I just bought the droid bionic lapdock (i read reviews and all says it works, even with ICS)
Im excited for that to come in the mail in a few days!

harecurtis said:
Everyone here owns one I assume.
Should I buy a droid 4?
And what are the pros and cons?
Online video reviews are way to biased
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well let me put it this way. i dont know if moto is gonna realease a D5, and im all for the fingerprint lock.. that is hot. but im going to buy a 2nd D4 and maybe even a 3rd to make sure i got a kickass qwerty to suit my needs. the d4 is great.. it's more like a computer with phone functionality than a phone.
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well let me put it this way. i dont know if moto is gonna realease a D5, and im all for the fingerprint lock.. that is hot. but im going to buy a 2nd D4 and maybe even a 3rd to make sure i got a kickass qwerty to suit my needs. the d4 is great.. it's more like a computer with phone functionality than a phone.
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Ya ive had it a few days and overall love it
I just bought a lapdock for it as well
The only issues I have with it are the lag it seems to have once in a while and the battery is pretty bad.
But besides that I have to say I love this phone
Now I think droid 5 is possible...moto recently released that keyboard phone for at&t or sprint photon q or atrix q or something like that
So we will find out soon enough

i would recommend trying to freeze unnecessary apps. and uninstalling the bloatware. sped mine right up to 400mb free memory. now i can run any number of my apps and the multitasking works great too on ics. even after a reboot. didnt want to run a custom rom so i sorta cleaned up the stock to suit my needs with the root script and link2sd.
JB is supposed to be released soon. within the next 8 weeks i think, so will be looking forward to that. and we'll know if a droid 5 is on the way by the end of february.
would love a 13/16mp camera, 2 or more gigs of ram droid 5 with the new flexible unbreakable screens. that would pwn.
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