Full screen use/LMT/Pie Solution - Nexus 5 General

Many people, including me, were trying to use pie control (LMT) with no soft keys. You can turn off the soft keys by putting this line at the bottom of your build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
But if you tried to use LMT the menu and back button did not work. BUT if you use the new faux kernel both will work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509655
Download for LMT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
Now you can enjoy full screen!
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JPOKeefe said:
Many people, including me, were trying to use pie control (LMT) with no soft keys. You can turn off the soft keys by putting this line at the bottom of your build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
But if you tried to use LMT the menu and back button did not work. BUT if you use the new faux kernel both will work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509655
Download for LMT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
Now you can enjoy full screen!
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Fyi: I also posted now a test version (v2.0 RC4) in the lmt thread which is compatible with Android 4.4/stock kernel.
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I guess I'm crazy but I like the onscreen navigation buttons. Glad to see there are solutions in the works for those that don't, though; gotta love Nexus.

Glad there is a way to get rid of the on screen buttons...I cant stand them taking up space on the screen.
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i think PIE controls are a lot more valuable in a tablet setting, in that you're not constantly receiving notifications for stuff and the extra real estate is nice. however, i don't know how much i'll actually be using it on the phone, especially given kit kat's new abilities to go full screen already in a lot of apps, and the often transparent menus anyway. also, the N5 is tall enough already, i don't feel like the navigation bar takes up all that much space, especially when compared to a tablet in landscape where it runs across the entire bottom

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i think PIE controls are a lot more valuable in a tablet setting, in that you're not constantly receiving notifications for stuff and the extra real estate is nice. however, i don't know how much i'll actually be using it on the phone, especially given kit kat's new abilities to go full screen already in a lot of apps, and the often transparent menus anyway. also, the N5 is tall enough already, i don't feel like the navigation bar takes up all that much space, especially when compared to a tablet in landscape where it runs across the entire bottom
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What apps can go full screen exactly ?

It won't go full screen in games as far as I know and that's when I need a full screen the most.
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jodvova said:
What apps can go full screen exactly ?
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not a lot yet, but i imagine a lot more apps will do something to similar to google now with the clear nav/notification bars allowing you to see content full screen
yahoo weather hides the notification bar, they could update to clear out the nav bar instead of black

lolcopter said:
i think PIE controls are a lot more valuable in a tablet setting, in that you're not constantly receiving notifications for stuff and the extra real estate is nice. however, i don't know how much i'll actually be using it on the phone, especially given kit kat's new abilities to go full screen already in a lot of apps, and the often transparent menus anyway. also, the N5 is tall enough already, i don't feel like the navigation bar takes up all that much space, especially when compared to a tablet in landscape where it runs across the entire bottom
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For me, I enjoy using Tab UI on my phone (coming from a N4). It gives a lot of screen real estate back while still retaining functionality and ease of use. I can't wait for a rom to have Tab UI. Honestly, I'm still using my N4 because of this. I have to agree though, I can't stand PIE on my phone either. There's too much going on and swipes often do something you don't want them to do. I always feel like I want to see time or batt % too. I might do PIE just so I can get rid of the stupid phone nav bar though. Almost an inch of vertical space is gone for no reason.

Thank you for sharing !
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lolcopter said:
i think PIE controls are a lot more valuable in a tablet setting, in that you're not constantly receiving notifications for stuff and the extra real estate is nice. however, i don't know how much i'll actually be using it on the phone, especially given kit kat's new abilities to go full screen already in a lot of apps, and the often transparent menus anyway. also, the N5 is tall enough already, i don't feel like the navigation bar takes up all that much space, especially when compared to a tablet in landscape where it runs across the entire bottom
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This is such a great solution, enjoying my true 1080p in full glory. I've been using this since getting Nexus 4. The new KitKat feature to go 'immersive' has to be supported by newer versions of apps. And even then it requires more swipes & taps to use. PIE LMT navigation is 1 swipe and system wide. I just reduce the activation area so it doesn't trigger on accidental edge swipes, and it has to be from edge towards center direction (an important feature other similar implementations miss). Here's a direct link to the post for the LMT Pie v2 that works on Nexus 5 KitKat.

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CM7 w/TabTweaks is....HOLY AWESOMENESS DROIDMAN!

Here's the story of how a once forgotten Nook Color got it's mojo back.
I pretty much gave up on my NC as a useable device a couple months ago. I need a back button always available. I tried softkeys but it never really worked right. It was just too cumbersome. I did the dual boot and actually liked the Honeycomb solution of always having the status bar on the bottom. But it was still just a hack job dual boot bleah...and HC doesn't really have that much app support.
I have a Windows 7 64bit box so creating those bootable SD cards was pretty much impossible...so I was stuck.
I purchased a woo-Tab (a woot G-Tablet). ROMing it was really easy and I plowed around for a couple days until I discovered CM7 with tablet tweaks. Holly Schmolly...what a revolution! froyo-like app support, and the conveniences of always having the back and menu buttons available .... right there...at the bottom ....where it belongs.
I stumbled across this thread in the NC development forum while looking for another CM7TabTweaker ROM for my gTab. hmmmm ... tablet tweaks...on the NC...I had a mission...and my NC will self destruct in 7 seconds.
So I went on a mission to get CM7TabTweaks on my NC. tried the bootable SDcard crap again like 5 times...no joy...then I found a thread that gives 5 (or so) easy ADB steps to get the new CWMod with the proper ext-4 stuff......so I tried it....and it worked.....
ALMOST HOME!
I can't tell you how excited I was....my hands were shaking...I was having the flop sweats, as those beautiful words came across my screen
CM tablet tweaks [tt.RC2] 07.04.2011#2 is installing
it seemed like and hour....then it booted...and that beautiful skateboarding blue boy came across my screen....being a pretty long toothed ROMer, I was patient, first boots always take some time...but 20 minutes! CRAP! I'm bootloopy!
back into recovery I go..."DOCTOR, DATA WIPE! STAT!.....and get me 200 cc's of Delv cache wipe..."
"The patient is wide open doc....should we just replace the heart?"
"It couldn't hurt nurse....RE-INSTALL!"
"but doctor....we didn't backup!"
"SCOTTIE! I NEED MORE POWER!"
ok now i'm mixing my movie/daytime drama metaphors....but you get the point....
so I reinstalled the ROM again....the skateboarding blue beauty came up...and.....the wife walks in and starts yammering on about something. Now all you ROMers know, that our wives pretty much think we love our devices more than them. I now try to put the device down when my better half walks in the room.
So when the Beautiful Janny is came in and started telling me a story...I put down the NC with the blue skateboarding Andy. I listened intently, trying VERY hard not to look down at the device.
When I looked down....it was like I could hear angles singing. A soft glow, was emanating from my Nook Color....there it was....a home screen....with that beautiful Tablet Tweak status bar on the bottom.
I mean...holy usefulness DroidMan ...
The moral of this story.
EVERYONE.........GET YOUR TABLET TWEAKS NOW!
It's worth any pain and suffering and wifey stories you have to endure.
Thanks for listening. Just had to share.
sudermatt said:
Here's the story of how a once forgotten Nook Color got it's mojo back.
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Thanks for listening. Just had to share.
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thanks for the narrative lol, but how about more stepbystep of the actual install process dude? im thinkin about getting a NC to overclock and load up honeycomb, but it just seems laggy even oc'd...
i love how responsive my phone is.. so even with a bigger screen, lots of lag would just piss me off. so how well does it work with the tabtweaks?
I'll add step by steps in a while...gotta get some work done
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thanks for the narrative lol, but how about more stepbystep of the actual install process dude? im thinkin about getting a NC to overclock and load up honeycomb, but it just seems laggy even oc'd...
i love how responsive my phone is.. so even with a bigger screen, lots of lag would just piss me off. so how well does it work with the tabtweaks?
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Here's what I did. Works like a charm. Next to no lag. I love it.
I don't mean any disrespect, but I guess i never got all the hype about the "Tablet Tweaks" mod. I am running it right now, and yes, it adds some nice buttons, but certainly doesn't revolutionize the device. I mean, it does nothing more than put button savior into the toolbar, and allow you to hide it in some cases.
That said, i guess i can't complain about any good dev effort on the nook; the community here is great, and I will take whatever we can get..
I think it's really just more the principle that it makes it one more step closer to being a full fledged tablet. Is it 100% need? Not really, but it does help keep the device looking cleaner and in some cases running smoother.
I like it a lot and feel like it's a very good alternative to Honeycomb.
Divine_Madcat said:
I don't mean any disrespect, but I guess i never got all the hype about the "Tablet Tweaks" mod. I am running it right now, and yes, it adds some nice buttons, but certainly doesn't revolutionize the device. I mean, it does nothing more than put button savior into the toolbar, and allow you to hide it in some cases.
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Personally I wasn't a fan of Button Savior or Softkeys. They never worked quite right on my NC and I was constantly calling up the buttons by accident when I meant to hit something on the edge of the screen.
CM7 initially having the extra buttons at the top was a godsend for me; all the other CM7 goodies were just frosting on the cake. Mad-Murdock's implementation of the buttons and moving them to the bottom pretty much ensured CM7 will be the only ROM I need until Honeycomb officially shows up.
sudermatt said:
Now all you ROMers know, that our wives pretty much think we love our devices more than them.
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Ain't that the truth.
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I guess there's a debate about how useful TabTweaks is....
I'll tell you this...I never would have handed my NC to The Beautiful Janny for her to use. She would have been soooooo frustrated after about 10 seconds. The Beautiful Janny is a techno phobe...it's takes all of my "head of household" power to keep her from going *choke* *cough* *gag* *apple*.
But I still want her to enjoy this amazing device.
Now, I just have to point to the back button, the home button and the menu key and say.
- Press that to go Back,
- That one to go to the main page,
- This one to get options where-ever you are.
Now I can hand her the device, give her those three simple instructions, and let her explore.
I'm very excited for The Beautiful Janny...and for me....and everyone else who TabTweaks their NC.
LONG LIVE CM7TabTweaks!
Anyone who thinks the CM7 tablet tweaks is just Button Savior on the status bar should delete their xda account.
RoboRay said:
Anyone who thinks the CM7 tablet tweaks is just Button Savior on the status bar should delete their xda account.
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Obviously directed at me, so i will respond. Aside from adding perm soft buttons (like button savior), the ability to hide/show soft buttons on top of full screen apps (like button savior), the only new functionality is the ability to move the bar to the bottom (ok, but not earth shattering). The softkeys being added to the power menu is worthless to me, but i guess also worth a mention.
I am not trying to be rude to the dev, but people making this out to be earth shattering are crazy to me. Button Savior has been doing this for me for months, so i just don't get the excitement. Yes, i use RC2 of TT, simply because its the newest in code, and i like to keep up. But CM7 felt great before, and this really didn't rock my world... sorry.
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Anyone who thinks the CM7 tablet tweaks is just Button Savior ...
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Yeah, tbh, I don't get it either. I hated using both button savior and softkeys.
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It always felt like a burden, even if only a slight one, to have to pop-out the softkeys and then finally press the button I want. I could never place the pop out button where I wanted it and I was constantly accidentally hitting it. Since this really was one of the few things that constantly reminded me that I wasn't using a device meant to be a tablet (sounds silly, perhaps but still true) I was extraordinarily excited to have all those issues fixed in one fell swoop.
These mods fit like a glove. By comparison, Button Savior and Softkeys fit like a cloth tied around your hand (no disrespect to their authors).
Divine_Madcat said:
Obviously directed at me, so i will respond. Aside from adding perm soft buttons (like button savior), the ability to hide/show soft buttons on top of full screen apps (like button savior), the only new functionality is the ability to move the bar to the bottom (ok, but not earth shattering). The softkeys being added to the power menu is worthless to me, but i guess also worth a mention.
I am not trying to be rude to the dev, but people making this out to be earth shattering are crazy to me. Button Savior has been doing this for me for months, so i just don't get the excitement. Yes, i use RC2 of TT, simply because its the newest in code, and i like to keep up. But CM7 felt great before, and this really didn't rock my world... sorry.
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I feel the same way but perhaps I'm a little biased
dalingrin said:
I feel the same way but perhaps I'm a little biased
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I ditched button savior for the tweaks. Was kinda confused. BS was closed-source, but based on softkeys which is GPL'd? Or am I smokin' crack?
I will agree with the OP (great narrative by the way, you must be in sales).
CM7TT makes the Nook feel like a turn key tablet for me. I was using softkeys on rooted stock and it felt cumbersome to operate.
AdamT.
What's battery life on it?
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awtenterprise said:
I will agree with the OP (great narrative by the way, you must be in sales).
CM7TT makes the Nook feel like a turn key tablet for me. I was using softkeys on rooted stock and it felt cumbersome to operate.
AdamT.
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I'm a geek...project manager...and you, sir, are clearly brilliant because
CM7TabTweaks Rock the House!
I've always hated SoftKeys. Button Savior was a relatively clean workaround, but pressing two buttons to get the one I wanted gets to be a little more bothersome than I like. Tablet Tweaks just feels natural, as if that's how it was supposed to be the whole time.
Further, there's more to TT than just the softkeys. The long-press hardware button mapping is great. I can't wait 'til the Volume Button mapping comes back since it was just plain handy in a variety of situations that you wouldn't think of until they came up.
the best part for me is that now everything is completely under my control.
i can have lots of buttons or none, have a status bar at all times or toggle it on and off while in full screen apps. it completely replaces a third party solution and i don't even have to map my volume keys... although if i want to map them the option will be right there without having to install anything.
not to mention all of this was done quickly and with user input. i'm also sure that this is just the beginning of something much bigger
thanks again to MM and all the people here making the nook better.

Soft buttons major issue

I'm amazed that when in landscape the buttons don't stick to the right hand side like they do on the GNex, it's a terrible waste of real estate.
Do you guys have any ideas if a hack will be possible to achieve this? (Given it's the case with the GNex it can't be that hard I guess?)
Should be renamed to "Soft buttons minor annoyance"
Well you say that, I think I'm going to be DSR'ing the tablet due to it.
Eventually developers will make the Nav bar hideable and most likely moveable and smaller via dpi changes like on the Galaxy Nexus. You might want to give custom ROMs a chance to mature before returning the N7.
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straxusii said:
Well you say that, I think I'm going to be DSR'ing the tablet due to it.
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Do it, you obviously did not buy this to customize it to your liking. Get an ipad
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xopher.hunter said:
Get an ipad
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ROFL, is that the ultimate insult on these forums
I don't want an iPad, just an option to anchor the soft button area.
straxusii said:
ROFL, is that the ultimate insult on these forums
I don't want an iPad, just an option to anchor the soft button area.
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It's coming!
I believe modacos rom will be putting it like that real soon
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its done for a reason.
the majority of newer phones are launching with the 1280x720 resolution with hard keys, and as a result, app devs are designing apps for 1280x720 resolution. our resolution is 1280x800, so what google does is rotate the keys so it uses the bottom 80 rows of pixels, leaving the rendering area at 1280x720 for games and apps. this way, we still get games and apps at full resolution, whereas with devices that keep the soft keys in the same place, the resolution gets cut down to 1196x720, and then games get shrunk to either 1196x720 or 1196x672 with black bars.
i personally have no problem with it at the moment, but ive only had my device for a few hours of play time. ideally, i'd like it relocated to the top so i dont hit it when im playing games, but tis a minor gripe.
BrianDigital said:
I believe modacos rom will be putting it like that real soon
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Yes indeed
Great stuff, thanks for the heads up on the rom, I'll check it out
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ROFL, is that the ultimate insult on these forums
I don't want an iPad, just an option to anchor the soft button area.
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Haha I guess it is. Well it looks like modaco has you covered.
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Souai said:
its done for a reason.
the majority of newer phones are launching with the 1280x720 resolution with hard keys, and as a result, app devs are designing apps for 1280x720 resolution. our resolution is 1280x800, so what google does is rotate the keys so it uses the bottom 80 rows of pixels, leaving the rendering area at 1280x720 for games and apps. this way, we still get games and apps at full resolution, whereas with devices that keep the soft keys in the same place, the resolution gets cut down to 1196x720, and then games get shrunk to either 1196x720 or 1196x672 with black bars.
i personally have no problem with it at the moment, but ive only had my device for a few hours of play time. ideally, i'd like it relocated to the top so i dont hit it when im playing games, but tis a minor gripe.
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Android doesn't work like that. Games do not have a fixed aspect ratio.
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xopher.hunter said:
Haha I guess it is. Well it looks like modaco has you covered.
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Yep, one of many reasons why I wouldn't buy an iPad, I felt a custom mod would fix this and indeed it did
So both the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 have dynamic capacitive buttons instead of actual physical buttons. I was actually under the impression that this black bar was a separate capacitive display from the main display. Now that I actually see a Nexus 7 in person, this black bar appears to be just a part of the screen.
So am I actually getting 1280 pixels?
If you have root, you can try GMD HideBar XDA.
And GMD GestureControl also supports Nexus7.
These are just root apps, not system mods.
So part of the 7" 1280x800 screen is being used by the controls... I guess except for videos and pictures.
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So part of the 7" 1280x800 screen is being used by the controls... I guess except for videos and pictures.
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Correct, apps can go full screen, like the default video player, but most don't which is very annoying playing games in landscape mode.
Just to follow up I've now enabled tablet UI (160 DPI) on the N7 and I think that deals with my issues with the softkeys, I will try a mod to anchor them to the right in landscape mod when a free one comes out.
We need a mod. A mod like the CM7 tablet settings, where you have the option to select "Softkeys Left, Right, etc". CM7 also options which softkeys you want, and in what order. Without changing dpi. That would be tits

Are you happy with 4.2? (poll)

I'm debating switching over just to try it, just want to have a better idea if people like 4.2 or not. Thanks.
Not really. Its not polished at all and is laggy. I also prefer cm over stock and hate chrome.
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Love it.
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I was getting serious lag earlier, I'm hoping it settles down before I start rooting around where I shouldn't
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Not really. Its not polished at all and is laggy. I also prefer cm over stock and hate chrome.
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You know you can install another browser, right?
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Other than lockscreen, l like it
Nah, I quite like the dual notif box's, one for quick settings etc.
But hate how it keeps scrolling down, off screen etc.
Also, MY NEXUS IS SO SLOW AND LAGGY NOW, FEELS LIKE THERES 100GB of data on a 16GB tablet its that rudy slow.
Some app won't work.
1.I love MX Player but not supported android 4.2
2.I can't see TWRP backup folder when connect with PC
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I think it's a good update.
My favorite new feature is definitely the keyboard
S'ok
Like = Gesture Typing, new settings drop down - Epic!
Not Sure = WIDI - This could be cool as no MHL on my Nexus 7 but not tried yet and possibly expensive
Don't Like = New lockscreen - Just looks nasty and feels slow and pointless
Love it! It the best Android experience yet! IMO
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If I don't go away this weekend I will have a chance to install it. I almost did it yesterday but was so tired. I definitely want to try it though. I know I'll miss AOKP.
The only thing I like is the gesture typing. My nexus 7 has seemed much slower since the update and I hate the dual drop down menus.
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Swipe typing is really nice, animations on the app switcher look pretty cool. But does feel a touch sluggish on general use. Plus Bluetooth audio is screwed up, audio keeps stuttering really badly. Notifications seems half a step backward to me, but not something I'm overly bothered about
It's ok besides these issues that are really getting me frustrated. Can't get old pics to show in Gallery, even though they are there and are in the same file location that pics taken with 4.2 are. Pics taken on 4.2 show in Gallery show in Gallery...? Can't find the newest TWRP backup in file explorer, but it shows in TWRP. Total opposite for old backups.....they show in file explorer, but not in TWRP?
Oh...the USB-debugging hidden thing had me mad at first, but now think it was kinda funny.
It is a SMALL update, very small.
I don't care about the keyboard, since I don't use dictionary (not possible with slavic languages, and I use TWO).
I don;t particulary like new notifications/settings pulldown. It is ugly and extends over the edge f the screen, even if empty.
I don't like new lock screen. I prefer to have weather icon on it than stupid widgets which might provide private data before UNLOCK
I have a feeling it is slower, only slightly, though, than 4.1.2
Several apps don't work, including my favorite TSF Shell
"Blink to logon" is a good idea, but I have glasses and it doesn't work very well for me
So, all in all, a HUGE FAIL.
Thanx god it is a small update, who knows what Google would manage to f*ck up in MAJOR update....
My only issue is that the quick settings notification area aren't actual toggles as opposed to shortcuts to settings. But overall happy.
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4.2 is just preparing us for 5.0 and you could tell in the new clock app.I think they are going to change the color scheme to red. The camera icon is also different and in 5.0 there will be more changes. For now we are basically beta testers of an early build of 5.0
4.2 is very smooth though
4.2 seems to work pretty well. Smooth and relatively trouble free so far.
Went all the way back to stock/unrooted/locked
Updated ota to 4.1.2
Flashed 4.2
Unlocked/rooted applied 720p video patch
All is smooth
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Nexus 5/Kit Kat disappointments

Coming from the Nexus 4, which I loved and Jelly Bean, I just received my Nexus 5 yesterday and have some disappointments. Let me know if you guys agree and if I'm overlooking anything and can fix.
1 FIXED - Ok, Google sucks at making home screen launchers, apparently. I have to use an aftermarket app for my home screen) I LOVE Google Now. I used it quite a bit on my Nexus 4 by holding the home button and swiping up. Now they made it so Google Now is locked on the left side. WTF? I loved having my "home" screen in the middle, with two screens on the left and two on the right. I had a Trip It widget and Keep widget on the left, each on their own screen. I had some other often used apps on the right and my Calendar widget each on their own on the right. No screen was more than two swipes away. Now I have to swipe 4 screens to the right to get to my last one. That sucks. I can turn Google Now off to get my screens back, but then I don't have Google Now at all. This sucks, Google. What are you thinking?
2) I thought it made total sense to have the Play Store link right above the apps in the app drawer. When someone would ask, "do you have XXXX app?" I'd look and if I didn't, I could touch right there to enter the Play Store and download. Now, I have to scroll to find the Play Store app icon. Or put it on one of my screens. This seems like they're going backward here. Why remove that? To make it prettier? Aesthetics over functionality.
3 FIXED!) I love talking to my phone and used voice to text quite often. Now when I go to text someone, I can't see the mic anywhere on the keyboard. Really? Why did they rearrange the keyboard and remove this? Oh, now I get all these cute smiley faces and crap I'll NEVER use, but the mic is gone. Why?
4) Speaking of rearranged keyboard layouts, why change it up? I was pretty used to my Jelly Bean keyboard. Now they rearranged the exclamation point to the other side. And maybe others. I can't recall exactly until I start texting and hit a wrong key, pressing something which used to be another symbol. I'll eventually get used to that, but why change it? It was fine as it was.
5) HUGE icons. Why? To look my iPhone(ish)? Jelly Bean had 5 rows of 5. Now we get huge icons and 5 rows of 4. Not a huge deal, but if you have a bunch of apps, it takes longer to scroll through them all and you can't fit as many of your most used on one screen.
6) I love the home screen rotate on my Nexus 7. Google never thought to add this to the Nexus 4. And now it's not on the Nexus 5 either. I've used an app called "Rotate" to perform this and loved it, but now that Kit Kat extends the background to show behind the toolbars (which I love the look of, by the way), when I use "Rotate" to flip the home screen when I hold the phone horizontally, that black bar shows on the right. Again, not a huge problem here and maybe Rotate will update to a Kit Kat compatible version, but why doesn't Google add this functionality out of the box for its Nexus phones when they do it for the Nexus 7?
7) The notification sounds seem even quieter than the Nexus 4, which wasn't the loudest ever. I always turn vibrate on text OFF so when I'm texting back and forth, it's not unnecessarily wasting battery. But in doing so, I could most times hear my Nexus 4 chime when in my pocket. Not with the 5. I find myself pulling it out of my pocket every 15 mins to see if I missed any calls, emails or texts. I guess I'll have to turn on the notification vibration and sacrifice battery life, but that's lame.
If I'm overlooking anything which fixes any of these, please advise!
Oh well.
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I have similar disappointments. Mainly the lack of the store in the top of the app drawer.
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3) I love talking to my phone and used voice to text quite often. Now when I go to text someone, I can't see the mic anywhere on the keyboard. Really? Why did they rearrange the keyboard and remove this? Oh, now I get all these cute smiley faces and crap I'll NEVER use, but the mic is gone. Why?
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The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
It seems like people are just trying to find things to complain about now.
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That's what I was hoping I did by accident, but I can't see where I would have. In settings > language & input > google keyboard settings, I have the
"voice input key" checked. I assumed that's what I need. I unchecked it, looked and the mic wasn't there. I re-checked it, looked and the mic isn't there. What am I overlooking?
jodvova said:
The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
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jodvova said:
The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
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Yep, it's there. Make sure "Google voice typing" is checked under language and input
EDIT: Don't click on Google keyboard, look down a few and check Google voice typing
I seriously don't want to man. I loved the Nexus 4 and was SO excited with this. But when you're used to things and they change for the worse (my opinion, things that are USEFUL to me), it's more than annoying, it's a real issue. 1, 2, 3 and 7 are all big deals to me. 1 - It makes the phone less simple. Most actions needed to get to what I use. 2 - same as 1, more steps needed to get to the Play Store. 3 - hopefully I'm overlooking something, but speaking my texts to my phone saved me A LOT of texting time. 7 - a ****ty speaker means I can't hear maps directions and have to look down at my phone more. That's not something I'm just trying to find an issue with, it's a real issue.
mrro82 said:
It seems like people are just trying to find things to complain about now.
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Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
P.S. - This 5 minute between posts thing for new users blows. Verify me, mods.
Synyster06Gates said:
Yep, it's there. Make sure "Google voice typing" is checked under language and input
EDIT: Don't click on Google keyboard, look down a few and check Google voice typing
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torranceeric said:
Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
P.S. - This 5 minute between posts thing for new users blows. Verify me, mods.
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As for the speaker - I'm not sure what the complaints are about. It blows away my S3's and every other phone I've had...
Another one of these threads....#2 really? This is something to complain about.
I don't use Samsung products because I hate Touch Wiz and all the other bloatware on it. Yeah, I know it can be unlocked and modded, but I don't get into all of that. I came from an EVO 4G and liked it a lot, but once I got my Nexus 4, I could never go back to a phone with HTC Sense. The speaker was far better on the EVO though than the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 5, to me, seems even quieter.
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As for the speaker - I'm not sure what the complaints are about. It blows away my S3's and every other phone I've had...
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torranceeric said:
Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
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I kinda do agree with you on 1). I felt uncomfortable when first started to use Nexus 5 because I had a similar screens setup to yours on S4.
But I've changed my habits pretty quickly. Although I'm only using Calendar widget that occupies whole screen and one more screen (apart from home) for apps.
Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else. If you don't like the keyboard, use another one!
Yep. It's going backward in features. That was useful as hell. If you never used it, ok, but give me something to make things easier, I get used to it and dig it. Take it away and I'm annoyed. Why take it away? It reminds me of the "new" Google Maps. They took away a few features that I LOVED.
I'm tied into Google. I use a lot of their offerings. But I'm not going to blindly defend everything they throw out, I'm going to honestly say what I like and dislike.
brianfields33 said:
Another one of these threads....#2 really? This is something to complain about.
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[email protected] said:
Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else. If you don't like the keyboard, use another one!
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This. FFS stop complaining. Before long people are gonna start saying you're apple fan boys posting to start drama.
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Can I have your Nexus 5 then?
Cool, suggest something for me, please. I don't like screwing with things too much, I like vanilla Android as Google intended. But I liked Jelly Bean Android. Kit Kat feels less intuitive. I know Android is all about the ability to be free and have different choices, but the reason I got rid of my HTC EVO was because I hate skins and crap on my Android. I just want it plain and yummy. If there's an alternative launcher that looks just like Jelly Bean, sweet, I'm all in. I just don't want it to give completely different functionality in other ways.
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Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else.
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torranceeric said:
Cool, suggest something for me, please. I don't like screwing with things too much, I like vanilla Android as Google intended. But I liked Jelly Bean Android. Kit Kat feels less intuitive. I know Android is all about the ability to be free and have different choices, but the reason I got rid of my HTC EVO was because I hate skins and crap on my Android. I just want it plain and yummy. If there's an alternative launcher that looks just like Jelly Bean, sweet, I'm all in. I just don't want it to give completely different functionality in other ways.
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Nova Launcher
I'm actually considering going back to my Nexus 4 and selling this. Obviously, I won't be jumping to Kit Kat when it's available on the N4.
But this is why I post - maybe there are fixes.
And guys, aren't these forums about helping? No, I don't use Apple products. Nothing against 'em, but I'm tied into Google and don't care to switch. I just loved most everything about my Nexus 4 and was hoping to love the 5 even more.
M4dRefluX said:
Can I have your Nexus 5 then?
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Avoiding Burn In

Coming from a Galaxy Nexus and Note 3 I'm pretty familiar with burn in and with this screen being as gorgeous as it is I'd like to avoid burn in to keep it looking superb!
Is there any apps to run occasionally to help with this? Any tip would be appreciated and hopefully we can save more gorgeous screens.
EvoRocker said:
Coming from a Galaxy Nexus and Note 3 I'm pretty familiar with burn in and with this screen being as gorgeous as it is I'd like to avoid burn in to keep it looking superb!
Is there any apps to run occasionally to help with this? Any tip would be appreciated and hopefully we can save more gorgeous screens.
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There is an app someone wrote that inverts colors in the app section. It actually is a standard option in LP. You can just do that once in a while. I use an app to hide navigation keys since these are mostly what will end up burning in. The status bar is less likely since the introduction of matching app colors.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.immersive
I've had my Nexus 6 since 11/17 and I have 0 burn in. I think it varies on how you use the phone. I never use 100% brightness and always use auto brightness.
I use GMD Immersive too, ok I get the point burn in maybe a minimum risk but the navigation buttons are not required too be always on, and I find then at times distracting and sometimes get in the way.
Pet peeve about GMD Immersive is you need to turn on the navigation buttons to enter text; this is a minor thing and the developer is still working on the app.
EvoRocker said:
Any tip would be appreciated and hopefully we can save more gorgeous screens.
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Here's my tip: don't give your money to companies choosing AMOLED panels. It just encourages them.
Like you I had a Galaxy Nexus, and burn-in was my constant daily companion. I'll never buy an AMOLED phone again, even if it means getting a non-Nexus device.
jefferai said:
Here's my tip: don't give your money to companies choosing AMOLED panels. It just encourages them.
Like you I had a Galaxy Nexus, and burn-in was my constant daily companion. I'll never buy an AMOLED phone again, even if it means getting a non-Nexus device.
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Not going to lie, it was nice having a G3 and not worrying about AMOLED burn in.
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Not going to lie, it was nice having a G3 and not worrying about AMOLED burn in.
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Any LED or LCD display can have permanence. Any. All it takes is a long enough period of the same static image. Your G3 is not magically immune.
OP use landscape mode as well as portrait, in combination with PIE controls.
Pie controls ?

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