dam bootloader - Galaxy S 4 Active Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Stupid question coming up.
1st of all I think this phone is Gggrrrreat its fast havent had any issues. . . But unfortunately it looks like we're stuck on stock roms or at least 4.2.2. Roms. Y is it so difficult to unlock our bootloader ?

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[Q] question

is a noob question,i been having my nexus one rooted ever since march of last year,my question is what's the difference if i unlock the bootloader, even though i'm rooted already running QND MIUI XPART 1.10.23...what are the +and -....thanks
ps: i don't care about voiding my warranty lol
The difference is that you have fastboot access which give you another method to flash stuff and it will stay if you go back to stock so you can root again even without an available exploit on the version.
ohh i see thanks bro ,yeah i had the idea but i wasn't to short about it ....thanks again...

[Q] Flashing ROM's on unlocked devices

Hey guys
so my friend has an Atrix HD, and he wants to flash KitKat on it.
but it was originally locked to AT&T so he unlocked it..
anyways, would flashing any ROM get rid of the unlock?
or would it possibly brick the device or anything?
thanks )
I bought my device already unlocked by the seller. I have flashed it at least 20 times and nothing has happened yet.
Mine was ATT and unlocked it and now i use it with tmo. I have flashed the phone over 1000 times on many different roms and betas i have done. Atrix HD is heavy duty i guess. Lol
It shouldn't ever mess up the unlock. Roms don't mess with the sim lock.
alright thanks so much guys i'll be trying KK on the phone later

[Q] Unlocking bootloader and CM11 installation

Hi! Im a little newbie but still trying . Sadly Sony abandoned us with a laggy compilation of happy thoughts. I my Sp have both root and recovery installed to delete bloatware. Im stuck with .205 stock and probably wont receive .207 anytime soon, so now that sony won't release kitkat its time for CUSTOM ROMS yeah!. I wanted to try the lastest release on nightly, the snapshot is like 2 months old (don't know if matters but for tweakers we have to test until we are happy )
Sadly for any rom, I need to unlock my bootloader but i can't. when i type the #*#*xxxx, says NO to unlockable bootloader, and when I use Flashtool doesn't work, still says that my device cannot be unlocked :S. Is there anyway to unlock the bootloader? Saw some solutions about flashing without unlocking but im afraid to brick the phone xd
I need some big help! will be appreciated ;D
johancamo1 said:
Hi! Im a little newbie but still trying . Sadly Sony abandoned us with a laggy compilation of happy thoughts. I my Sp have both root and recovery installed to delete bloatware. Im stuck with .205 stock and probably wont receive .207 anytime soon, so now that sony won't release kitkat its time for CUSTOM ROMS yeah!. I wanted to try the lastest release on nightly, the snapshot is like 2 months old (don't know if matters but for tweakers we have to test until we are happy )
Sadly for any rom, I need to unlock my bootloader but i can't. when i type the #*#*xxxx, says NO to unlockable bootloader, and when I use Flashtool doesn't work, still says that my device cannot be unlocked :S. Is there anyway to unlock the bootloader? Saw some solutions about flashing without unlocking but im afraid to brick the phone xd
I need some big help! will be appreciated ;D
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When It says NO you cant. It was so many times before. Just search.
When You cant unlock your BL, use CM11 for Locked BL. Simple.
smogf said:
When It says NO you cant. It was so many times before. Just search.
When You cant unlock your BL, use CM11 for Locked BL. Simple.
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But i saw that some of the LBL have many bugs on forums. What i need is that can run some demanding games like real racing 3 and Wi-fi Hotspot working. Is there anyone you can recommend based on cm11 m11?
johancamo1 said:
But i saw that some of the LBL have many bugs on forums. What i need is that can run some demanding games like real racing 3 and Wi-fi Hotspot working. Is there anyone you can recommend based on cm11 m11?
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You need to try them to believe them, bruh!
Fancy for the steps?

Marshmallow MCG24 unlock bootloader root etc?

So I bought the phone just now. Paid quite a lot because they don't exist in my country , but I've wanted it since it got out, and it's in like brand new condition so ehhh, why not I said..
Just checked and phone is on Marshmallow 24.81.5quark_verzion.verzion.enUS
Tried Kingroot and sunshine to at least achieve temproot , they both failed.
What are my options right now here?
Thanks!
No unlock options right now if you are on stock 6.0.1 with a locked bootloader.
ChazzMatt said:
No unlock options right now if you are on stock 6.0.1 with a locked bootloader.
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Thanks for reply! I guess I'll just live with it. Iphone in motorola's body lol. But for discussions sake, any way to downgrade? I know flashing bootloader triggers the "fuse" but I was succesfull with some weird bootloader downgrades in the past wtih 201M (Japanese softbank version of Razr M) and IS12M (JP KDDI version of Droid Razr).
Only problem is, this phone is way to expensive for me to experiment..
Ej?iSixo said:
Thanks for reply! I guess I'll just live with it. Iphone in motorola's body lol. But for discussions sake, any way to downgrade? I know flashing bootloader triggers the "fuse" but I was successful with some weird bootloader downgrades in the past wtih 201M (Japanese softbank version of Razr M) and IS12M (JP KDDI version of Droid Razr).
Only problem is, this phone is way to expensive for me to experiment..
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Hmmmm... then you were very lucky because gospel around here is you can never downgrade the Motorola bootloader. If you could downgrade bootloader, then everyone would go back to version where Sunshine worked! First Sunshine worked on Lollipop SU4TL-44 (November 2015), then everyone who procrastinated rushed to take SU4TL-49 (May 2016), hoping it was Marshmallow. Nope, it was just a Verizon "security" update to stop Sunshine from working. They had SIX MONTHS to unlock their bootloader and they didn't do it! Then everyone complained and said if only Sunshine worked on "49", they wouldn't procrastinate anymore. BOOM. A few months later (july 2016) Sunshine found another exploit and it works also on Lollipop "49".
But we are STILL seeing people now taking the Marshmallow OTA (November 2016) without unlocking bootloader first. Not you, you said you bought it with it already installed...
One of the Sunshine team members said he briefly glanced at the 6.0.1 OTA and it might not be impossible to unlock the bootloader. But no promises and no ETA. I don't think this phone is a high priority anymore. This is now a 2-year old phone. Still GREAT, but other newer phones get attention. There's been Sunshine for it since November 2015 and most everyone who wants it has had a chance to get it.
ChazzMatt said:
Hmmmm... then you were very lucky because gospel around here is you can never downgrade the Motorola bootloader. If you could downgrade bootloader, then everyone would go back to version where Sunshine worked! First Sunshine worked on Lollipop SU4TL-44 (November 2015), then everyone who procrastinated rushed to take SU4TL-49 (May 2016), hoping it was Marshmallow. Nope, it was just a Verizon "security" update to stop Sunshine from working. They had SIX MONTHS to unlock their bootloader and they didn't do it! Then everyone complained and said if only Sunshine worked on "49", they wouldn't procrastinate anymore. BOOM. A few months later (july 2016) Sunshine found another exploit and it works also on Lollipop "49".
But we are STILL seeing people now taking the Marshmallow OTA (November 2016) without unlocking bootloader first. Not you, you said you bought it with it already installed...
One of the Sunshine team members said he briefly glanced at the 6.0.1 OTA and it might not be impossible to unlock the bootloader. But no promises and no ETA. I don't think this phone is a high priority anymore. This is now a 2-year old phone. Still GREAT, but other newer phones get attention. There's been Sunshine for it since November 2015 and most everyone who wants it has had a chance to get it.
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Yeah I read whole how to unlock bootloader thread, from 1st to last page but havent' seen anything marshmallow specific so I opened this topic..
Yeah , I was also surprised, but I spent around 1 month working on it , and it was only working with specific firmwares (fastboot files).
Yeah I wish I checked little more about that issue , I would check phones OS and probably not buy when I see it's MM.. Oh well, no going back now.. Thought that verzion's control freak behavior stopped by the time of droid turbo( used some verzion motorola phones in the past) especially when google bought motorola.
I hope people don't see this phone as outdated, because there is no way it can be called that. Many people including myself figured it like a replacement for nexus , and I think it deserves at least root exploit..
Also asked in Sunshines thread about support for marshmallow , got rather unclear response:
Me:Will there be support for droid turbo on marshmallow? Just purchased the phone, didn't know unlocking bl was possible only on lolli... Thanks
jcase: Known at this point,
EDIT: damn I write yeah a lot lol. P.s if mods want to delete topic because it's useless, feel free. Thanks!
EDIT 2: By checking system updates looks like phone was updates 3 days ago so 1 day before I bought it .. Arrrghhhh!!!
BTW I just remembered, "old" Droid 's ( xt910 ,xt912 etc) bootloader was never ever unlocked , but there was a way around it. Safestrap recovery by Hashcode , which I'm sure you all know about. The project is scraped because dev is busy , but I really wonder if anything like that is possible on droid turbo. I also wonder how does it work exactly and what gets bypassed.
From users standpoint: you installed apk which then installed recovery that "bypassed" locked bootloader and allowed you to install /load custom roms, kernels , radios , root etc.. You could even install more OS's at same time like on another "partitions".
hm...
EjđiSixo said:
BTW I just remembered, "old" Droid 's ( xt910 ,xt912 etc) bootloader was never ever unlocked , but there was a way around it. Safestrap recovery by Hashcode , which I'm sure you all know about. The project is scraped because dev is busy , but I really wonder if anything like that is possible on droid turbo. I also wonder how does it work exactly and what gets bypassed.
From users standpoint: you installed apk which then installed recovery that "bypassed" locked bootloader and allowed you to install /load custom roms, kernels , radios , root etc.. You could even install more OS's at same time like on another "partitions".
hm...
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sorry for keeping this post alive, but i really really miss Safestrap when i had the Moto Droid Razr, you could have up to 4 different ROMs installed and it took minutes to swap between them. Man those were the good ole days haha
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weaver11b said:
sorry for keeping this post alive, but i really really miss Safestrap when i had the Moto Razr, you could have up to 4 different ROMs installed and it took minutes to swap between them. Man those were the good ole days haha
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I remember being frustrated about never-unlockable bootloader while using safestrap at same tame and then realised, hey wait! What do I need unlocked bootloader anyway , everything works perfect and functionality is even better than on most modded phones (at the time).
Having something like this on droid turbo would make it a perfect phone in my opinion, and for years to come.. Wonder whats the dev's view on droid turbo on that..
Anyway I was playing a little, all within "safe zones" regarding the downgrading . With litlle modding I could flash bootloader.img from QUARK_VERIZON_5.1_SU4TL-49_cid2_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip and most of partitions related to bootloader I collected from various locations,all from SU4TL but it's obviously not important..
So basically what I can't flash to downgrade is :
gpt.bin
boot.img
system files (system,img_sparsechunk.0 , 1 , 2 etc).. I will investigate more.
Started finally actually using phone , all bloatware can be disabled, so it's actually pretty ok for now. Phone feels awesome ..
Mods , please delete this topic in purpose of cleaning, I'm gonna open 2 topics regarding downgrading experiment and making SBF of new Marshmallow OTA

Any qbility for services like Sampwnd to be able to unlock bootloader rev 5 soon?

I had got the SM-G973U used a couple weeks back and have relentlessly been trying to find a way to install havoc os on this but the bootloader seems to be a big pain in the a*s I understand all the problems with it is anyone close to unlocking bootloader v5 though?
Man I was hoping for one response

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