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i need your oppinion should i buy T or Tx? I am asking my uncle from the US to sent to me...i dont know which should i buy? comments are welcome
cxj1995 said:
i need your oppinion should i buy T or Tx? I am asking my uncle from the US to sent to me...i dont know which should i buy? comments are welcome
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I am having tough time deciding which one to get as there is no place here I can go and check out both. I like how TX has smaller chin and thinner build than T. But, I have a feeling T might have better build quality as it has non-removable battery.
But the time, I decide we might hear about a Xperia Nexus or I might jump the wall and get Lumia 920.
TX. Better build imo and specs are pretty much copy pasta. And removable battery if you care for that.
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TX is better than T but pretty mcuh same ... the specs are same but the design is diff.. so go for the tx
lokenok said:
TX is better than T but pretty mcuh same ... the specs are same but the design is diff.. so go for the tx
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Forgot to mention the xperia T has a slightly bigger battery (non removable) while the xperia TX has 100 mAh less battery (removable)
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yeah but removable batt - more batterylife cause ucan replace it! also the tx is thinner and lighter
well,for android,a removable battery is a necessary thing
niuzhd said:
well,for android,a removable battery is a necessary thing
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How so? This is my 2nd phone with non-removable battery and tbh I don't see any disadvantages.
Guys I have added a poll please remember to vote
Please remember to post a question only once and also ask your differences question here as it's the same subject. I've closed all your other threads.
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acro s or tx?? I am getting the acro s $100US cheaper.
Well, if you pay attention they could be totally different animals in one's eye.
T has LTE where TX is not.
Shape of both phone differs one from another. Even dimension despite being slight but is different.
Battery was mentioned that is different as in T there is a bigger battery but also its not removable and adds one millimeter to thickness of the phone compare to TX.
Just looking at TX's shape, I know which one I want.
Piiist, gut of both phones follows the same principle.
Nimche said:
Well, if you pay attention they could be totally different animals in one's eye.
T has LTE where TX is not.
Shape of both phone differs one from another. Even dimension despite being slight but is different.
Battery was mentioned that is different as in T there is a bigger battery but also its not removable and adds one millimeter to thickness of the phone compare to TX.
Just looking at TX's shape, I know which one I want.
Piiist, gut of both phones follows the same principle.
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T doesn't have LTE.
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I'll go for Xperia T. TX is hard to find or deliver to my country.
Also, T doesn't have LTE and my country is on the same page so no problems with that
They are both great phones, and you wont be disappointed with any of them.
The TX feels slightly lighter than the T.
The T has a more solid feel to it compared to the TX.
The T has a flap on the left side that covers the sim and sd slots. If you don't like flaps, try going for the TX.
They are not exactly the same phone even though they use the same chipset.
I have both, so if you have any further questions just ask away.
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which has better sound quality and battery life. I am not impressed with the Ts sound quality at all in terms of volume and bass and because i tried the phone in the shop i cant put power amp on it to see if that makes a difference.
I don't care about changing battery as I usually upgrade my phone in less than a year. But, I like the styling, power and volume button placements, and thinness of TX but I don't think it can be bought anywhere in USA with warranty. You can buy T from expansys-usa and get sony warranty but it involves sending the phone to expansys rather then sony directly.
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Nimche said:
Just looking at TX's shape, I know which one I want..
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Which one you want? I like the looks of TX but I am worried about US warranty and also how solid it feels due to removable battery cover compared to T which should feel more sturdy but I hate how the chin looks on T. Might be able to make it look better using a gelaskin to cover just the chin area. I saw Xperia S in sonystyle stores where only the chin part is covered with gelaskin and the phone looked sexier that it already is.
I hear stories that Xperia Z scratches and when you remove the screen protector infront the sony logo comes off. Its necessary that I get that Logo else its not worth it.
Also heard the back glass comes off when it gets hot etc.
Then there is the issue of non removable battery. What happens in 2 or 3 years when the battery goes bad?
These things are incredibly difficult to replace and where I live this Xperia Z will cost me $700 USD and I work for $3 USD an Hour.
What kind of battery does the Xperia Z use? and how many recharge cycles does it have?
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I don't care what you think about what I say.
I want the Xperia Z so am posting what I have heard the stories to see if perhaps I was misinformed and those stories came from early faulty units that might have been fixed by now.
Xperia Z is the best looking phone I ever seen but if the stories I read about are indeed true then it sure stinks IMO.
What I am wondering is the battery lifespan.
Can the battery in this phone last 5 years?
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Depending on how u use it.. May up to 10 years!! but if u use ur phone to online and play games then having a removable battery is best.. I suggested that u buy a xperia zr which have a removable battery. Thus all ur problem will disappear :angel: but then if u still insisting to buy the xperia z? Well train yourself to fit the phone limitations.
Sometimes littlest things makes the different..:good:
Didn't know the ZR had removable battery
Nice sounds like a good buy. I will check to see if its available locally and should be cheaper than the Z also
And with lower 720p the games should also run smoother thansame processor trying to run it in 1080p
The ZR looks like a real beauty.
One question is the SONY logo embedded into the display or is it on some sort of screen protector and comes off it the protector comes off?
john5220 said:
Didn't know the ZR had removable battery
Nice sounds like a good buy. I will check to see if its available locally and should be cheaper than the Z also
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Yup definitely cheaper.. If im not mistaken, the Sony logo is embedded on the glass. But I guess u should check out the zr forum if available.
Thanks me if I help in anyway possible
look how awesome the ad for the ZR looks WOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1a7KjdUqmA
Take a look the review and enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh0Xqzr1V8o
EDIT: I will be happy if I can put my hands on it :fingers-crossed:
i suggest you wait one more month..probably honami will be launched...Z has few defects...as you said...heating issue is the major concern...i had it...but apart from that, it is a beautiful device..too bad some jerk stole my Z...
The battery is replaceable but not user replaceable, you can head over to a Sony store to replace your battery, you will need to pay as well.
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The battery is replaceable but not user replaceable, you can head over to a Sony store to replace your battery, you will need to pay as well.
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But I saw a video of the Xperia ZR and the battery is just like any samsung phone
Can be replaced in 5 seconds by even a child.
Unless ur talking about the Z?
Yeah its a nightmare to replace the battery in that one.
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look how awesome the ad for the ZR looks WOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1a7KjdUqmA
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Sony ZR is a brilliant and practical phone.
The only thing I'm concerned about is zero development for ZR, i don't know why cos both Z and ZR are on the same chipset.
This was the same reason i didn't go for the S4 octa (lack of AOSP development).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2414
I can live with that
this ZR looks incredible. And I am happy its 720p and not 1080p since at these size the human eye cannot notice the difference.
Thats the best ad I ever seen
The screen coming off in heat thing must be crazy. I work outside and It's been 110 for the two weeks I've had the phone and I'm a heavy user. My screen on time hits 7 hours a day quite often. If I haven't had this problem then it's probably something you shouldn't worry about. It's a random defect in some phones out of millions it sounds like.
hi i bought X-SP from Flipkart.com .. but it have some hardware issue therefore they are refunding me the entire amount ... so now am confused weather to buy X-ZR/X-ZL/X-SP
please help..
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hi i bought X-SP from Flipkart.com .. but it have some hardware issue therefore they are refunding me the entire amount ... so now am confused weather to buy X-ZR/X-ZL/X-SP
please help..
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I'm already having problems with ZR (it's 10 days old) I have a friend with a Z and he hasn't got any problems, go for Z, or better buy an HTC or Samsung seems to me SONY are releasing a lot of faulty devices.
andes83 said:
I'm already having problems with ZR (it's 10 days old) I have a friend with a Z and he hasn't got any problems, go for Z, or better buy an HTC or Samsung seems to me SONY are releasing a lot of faulty devices.
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what's wrong with yours ?
I brought my ZR with my friend and he brought the SP together. SP is good for who want a cheaper price, not targeting for a better camera. For SP, you can set the notification LED colors for different apps but ZR cannot. If you think the prize for ZR is reasonable, and you want better battery experience, quad cpu, waterproof phone, replaceable battery, then ZR is a good choice. SP seems a little heavier as it uses metal case I think. One more major difference is that ZR has cover for micro usb and headset plug. It's a little inconvenient but some will take those covers as a plus as they can protect the phone from dust. Also ZR is obviously smoother in my point of view.
All in all, if you don't think price is a major problem and the function of the phone is important to you, then I think ZR is your choice.
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I brought my ZR with my friend and he brought the SP together. SP is good for who want a cheaper price, not targeting for a better camera. For SP, you can set the notification LED colors for different apps but ZR cannot. If you think the prize for ZR is reasonable, and you want better battery experience, quad cpu, waterproof phone, replaceable battery, then ZR is a good choice. SP seems a little heavier as it uses metal case I think. One more major difference is that ZR has cover for micro usb and headset plug. It's a little inconvenient but some will take those covers as a plus as they can protect the phone from dust. Also ZR is obviously smoother in my point of view.
All in all, if you don't think price is a major problem and the function of the phone is important to you, then I think ZR is your choice.
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yeah, the SP has aluminium parts, even the power button is made with alu.
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/xperia-sp/features/#design
Ilko said:
what's wrong with yours ?
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The screen became unresponsive and now it's gone for repairs. There are already 2-3 people with the same problem in the forum. Maybe it's just bad luck.
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The screen became unresponsive and now it's gone for repairs. There are already 2-3 people with the same problem in the forum. Maybe it's just bad luck.
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well 2 or 3 in the same forum, with a not too much popularity for that device, I won't call it bad luck. Let's wait and see
I am looking after an new device for playing around with (ROM / Kernel flashing) and the Xperia T / V caught my attention pretty well. But.. Which one should I get? What is the differences except screen and the SoC?
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I am looking after an new device for playing around with (ROM / Kernel flashing) and the Xperia T / V caught my attention pretty well. But.. Which one should I get? What is the differences except screen and the SoC?
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Xperia T has the biggher Screen (4,55 inch) vs 4,3 on Xperia V. Xperia V is water resistant. idk which one is better. I got the T and I'm happy with it. Roms for both are more or less the same
if you prefer something "nice" in your hand, and you like it a bit more heavy. you know, the feeling when a real "machine" is sliding in your hand. then take the Xperia T. The screensize-hardwaresize relation is better on the Xperia T. The XV has more device around the screen^^
i have an example for you: The T is the rough, more heavy spade, you know. a thing a man like to hold in his hand, when he work in the garden. good size, good feel.
the V is more a cheap and less heavy spade from the supermarket. it maybe feels too light in the hand. you feel worry about it and its size. (my opinion):silly:
but before i forget, the V is waterproof. so if you like to chat with your gf or bf under shower, better take the Xperia V.
if iam right, the V has changeable battery, if you have a focus on that feature, then you will not be happy with the XT, it has no removable battery. i mean if you have a bit knowledge, then you also can change battery on XT, but not officially.
oh i have one more thing: the xperia T will have official OmniRom support. and we have a supernice Miui v5, based on stock sony rom, with great batterylife.:angel:
dont get me wrong, the Xperia V isnt a bad phone, for me it just cannot compare with the Xperia T.
short answer, hold them, squeeze them, decide then, buy then.
if you liek to flash custom roms, then have an eye on the bootloader unlock allowed: yes or no!
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if you prefer something "nice" in your hand, and you like it a bit more heavy. you know, the feeling when a real "machine" is sliding in your hand. then take the Xperia T. The screensize-hardwaresize relation is better on the Xperia T. The XV has more device around the screen^^
i have an example for you: The T is the rough, more heavy spade, you know. a thing a man like to hold in his hand, when he work in the garden. good size, good feel.
the V is more a cheap and less heavy spade from the supermarket. it maybe feels too light in the hand. you feel worry about it and its size. (my opinion):silly:
but before i forget, the V is waterproof. so if you like to chat with your gf or bf under shower, better take the Xperia V.
if iam right, the V has changeable battery, if you have a focus on that feature, then you will not be happy with the XT, it has no removable battery. i mean if you have a bit knowledge, then you also can change battery on XT, but not officially.
oh i have one more thing: the xperia T will have official OmniRom support. and we have a supernice Miui v5, based on stock sony rom, with great batterylife.:angel:
dont get me wrong, the Xperia V isnt a bad phone, for me it just cannot compare with the Xperia T.
short answer, hold them, squeeze them, decide then, buy then.
if you liek to flash custom roms, then have an eye on the bootloader unlock allowed: yes or no!
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This kind of reply does help a lot. Thank you!
Well, I see that the Xperia T got it into Sweden, even though it was said to be the international model and the Xperia V the Scandinavia / Nordic countries focused one..
1) Which one gives better battery life?
2) Which is best custom ROM / kernel supported?
3) Which one offers the best camera performance?
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This kind of reply does help a lot. Thank you!
Well, I see that the Xperia T got it into Sweden, even though it was said to be the international model and the Xperia V the Scandinavia / Nordic countries focused one..
1) Which one gives better battery life?
2) Which is best custom ROM / kernel supported?
3) Which one offers the best camera performance?
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Xperia T has 13 mega pixels and the pictures are pretty good (at least at good light), also I think that T has a little better rom support, but theres no big difference as they're pretty similar. Can't tell about battery life though
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Xperia T has 13 mega pixels and the pictures are pretty good (at least at good light), also I think that T has a little better rom support, but theres no big difference as they're pretty similar. Can't tell about battery life though
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Will see which one I am laying my hands on..
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I want to add two points:
1. The removable battery is useful, when I mod my phone and it would hang. With no removable battery I'd need to wait until the battery is completely depleted. Or unscrew the phone. The phone hung already a number of times. Waiting for an empty battery can be up to 50 h.
2. I think the property to withstand water should not be underestimated. No needing to worry about the weather protection, for example when I go out for cycling, on the motorbike. Or taking pictures of my kid when at the pool I don't need to worry dropping into the water. Immersing it into the pool water and watching the screen on is a bit eery first. I personally do not think the USB flap will hold up that test very long, but I do think it still withstand splashes and rain well, even with a "worn" flap.
As the others above said, both are pretty similar, and I personally don't really see the point for Sony having two products in their range which differ so little. It seems not useful to decide on basis of technical specifications. I would entirely decide on basis of your personal preferences in terms of battery flexibility, screen size and water resistance.
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I want to add two points:
1. The removable battery is useful, when I mod my phone and it would hang. With no removable battery I'd need to wait until the battery is completely depleted. Or unscrew the phone. The phone hung already a number of times. Waiting for an empty battery can be up to 50 h.
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ehm, no...thats not true. if you end in freeze or whatever, you can power+volume up some seconds, hard reset.
short: you not need to wait till battery empty, use key-combination...this cannot be a pro argument for XV :angel:
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ehm, no...thats not true. if you end in freeze or whatever, you can power+volume up some seconds, hard reset.
short: you not need to wait till battery empty, use key-combination...this cannot be a pro argument for XV :angel:
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I stand corrected. I did not know this also works on freeze.
Hard reset "boots" you up were to? To a CWM which is hopefully there?
no automatic boot in recovery.
honestly im not sure how it works exactly, because my last freezes/bootloops are some time agoooooo
look, i found the thread for 2012 modells
{RECOVER SOFT-brick}[2012 XPERIA's]Recover ALL 2012 XPERIAs from SOFT-brick
but to come back ontopic:
i would say the XT has more to offer regarding custom roms. at least the XT has the better running custom roms.
we can look forward the newly omnirom, the T will be officially supported
then we have the awesome MIUI v5
we have different themed and tweaked stock based sony roms, a honami rom, and we have AOKP
there are also some Cyaniogenmods, ChameleonOS, PAC (support for that stopped if iam right)
good roms for locked and unlocked bootloaders.
Last time I've checked the T does not have an LTE support. If the gsmarena specifications are correct (http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4958&idPhone2=4899), the T screen supports only 4 finger multitouch and the V - 10. Although I don't know what you'll be doing with 10 fingers on a 4.3" screen . And yes, the battery is removable on the V model.
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Last time I've checked the T does not have an LTE support. If the gsmarena specifications are correct (http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4958&idPhone2=4899), the T screen supports only 4 finger multitouch and the V - 10. Although I don't know what you'll be doing with 10 fingers on a 4.3" screen . And yes, the battery is removable on the V model.
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The rear cover has a rubber around the battery area for water resistance. It's quite clever.
What I trust lesser are the flaps for the two ports. The one for USB is used on daily basis. A free dock should be supplied with the phone (which actually applies to all this phones with contemporary abysmal battery life, IMO).
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The rear cover has a rubber around the battery area for water resistance. It's quite clever.
What I trust lesser are the flaps for the two ports. The one for USB is used on daily basis. A free dock should be supplied with the phone (which actually applies to all this phones with contemporary abysmal battery life, IMO).
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That's the reason I got the dock from the shop
Apart from that, after 6 months of use those flaps are still waterproof. It's very enjoyable to watch your colleagues' faces while washing the phone
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no automatic boot in recovery.
honestly im not sure how it works exactly, because my last freezes/bootloops are some time agoooooo
look, i found the thread for 2012 modells
{RECOVER SOFT-brick}[2012 XPERIA's]Recover ALL 2012 XPERIAs from SOFT-brick
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I checked. I learned hard reset is when booting up the phone, not when UI is frozen. Therefore: No phone without removable battery for me.
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I checked. I learned hard reset is when booting up the phone, not when UI is frozen. Therefore: No phone without removable battery for me.
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AGAIN. if the UI is freezing OR if you fazing bootloop, you can shutdown the phone with power button+volum up. its a FACT.
No need to wait till battery empty. i not understand how you can think you have to wait till battery is empty. NOT true.
you seem to misread
SOFT RESET = 1 vibration then let go of buttons (hold about 3 seconds); Like hitting REBOOT.
HARD RESET = 3 vibrations then let go (about 10 seconds); Like taking out the battery.
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And as a XT user i can confirm this, i never ever waited till my battery is empty.
The removable battery argument isnt that necessary, like many people in the internet make it. but whatever, personal taste and so on ...
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AGAIN. if the UI is freezing OR if you fazing bootloop, you can shutdown the phone with power button+volum up. its a FACT.
No need to wait till battery empty. i not understand how you can think you have to wait till battery is empty. NOT true.
you seem to misread
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I understand it works on a working phone and on a bootlooping phone. But it did not work on my frozen V. Otherwise I would not have needed to take the battery out. But I understand it works on your frozen T. So the case is cleared. :good:
Tell me about bugs, pros, cons, size, all about your user experience with ZR, i am considering buy this device, is it really good?
Tnx in advance
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Tell me about bugs, pros, cons, size, all about your user experience with ZR, i am considering buy this device, is it really good?
Tnx in advance
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my only, and i mean only slight disapointment at this device is the screen, it washes out when viewing from large angles, which is negligble most of the times, unless you're for somereason trying to watch what someone else is doing on your phone while he's far from you.
other than that it's absolutly perfect, water resistent, very fast and snappy, battery lasts a day and sometimes two, volume is descent and camera is great once you figure out how to take goodnight shots.
i don't find the 8GB internal to be too small, i have a lot of apps installed including a few big games, for multimedia i just have my 16GB sd card.
Never get lags
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Low headphone volume is very annoying.
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Tell me about bugs, pros, cons, size, all about your user experience with ZR, i am considering buy this device, is it really good?
Tnx in advance
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For me the main problem is not to be able to use the Sd card for application storage.
Otherwise I m very happy with it.
Big screen but not too big.
Fast fast fast...
The front camera is not so good but do you use it often? Me once in 2 months...
The usb cover can get tricky sometimes but after a few week it become easier.
But why don't you wait a little more and buy a Z1s....
Not good at all
Because of:
1.Very little to No developer support for our device
2.Volume is very low
3.Probably no KitKat for our wonderful device
4.Camera is not nice,in any condition its just too grainy and zooming on a picture is pointless as it gets very bad
5.Shortage of accessories
6.Sony's service is very poor
7.No warranty on water proof.....
Etc.
Other than this the experience is great
Not on device but on android and a nicely designed phone.
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Not good at all
Because of:
1.Very little to No developer support for our device
2.Volume is very low
3.Probably no KitKat for our wonderful device
4.Camera is not nice,in any condition its just too grainy and zooming on a picture is pointless as it gets very bad
5.Shortage of accessories
6.Sony's service is very poor
7.No warranty on water proof.....
Etc.
Other than this the experience is great
Not on device but on android and a nicely designed phone.
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lol kraken, go for a reading trip around the forum, most of what you wrote here is already discussed a solved...
1. almost every xz rom works on ZR with a little tweaking, you have miui and CM also, kikat will have to get to ZR if it gets to Z it's practicly the same, mybe a month later.
the camera is defenetly one of the better ones, night shots require to use manual mode to get better resaults, someone did comparison with galaxy s4 in the pictures thread and when done right quiality is the same.
shortage of accessories is also wrong, you have original sony dock and cheaper excellet docks on ebay, plenty of covers and screen procetors...
and about water warrenty?? no waterproff phone has a waterproofing warrenty, non from sony or the samsung galaxy active devices...
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lol kraken, go for a reading trip around the forum, most of what you wrote here is already discussed a solved...
1. almost every xz rom works on ZR with a little tweaking, you have miui and CM also, kikat will have to get to ZR if it gets to Z it's practicly the same, mybe a month later.
the camera is defenetly one of the better ones, night shots require to use manual mode to get better resaults, someone did comparison with galaxy s4 in the pictures thread and when done right quiality is the same.
shortage of accessories is also wrong, you have original sony dock and cheaper excellet docks on ebay, plenty of covers and screen procetors...
and about water warrenty?? no waterproff phone has a waterproofing warrenty, non from sony or the samsung galaxy active devices...
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I don't totally agree with you shteren
But if you know how to modify ROMs from Z or ZL to ZR
Please mod this one and upload it here cuz it's amazing
http:// http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495576
And also tell me an ultra noob friendly way to mod Z roms for Zr
For future use....
+ Great size
+ Good battery life
+ Software (lightly skinned, no TouchWiz crap here)
+ Build quality
+ Fast and snappy with no lag
+ Sony media apps are nice
+ STAMINA mode
+ Can use with a dock
+ IP58 certified waterproof and dust proof
+ Excellent camera with proper camera button
- Notification light is too dim and colour can't be changed
- Lack of accessories (can't even get a proper leather case)
- Port covers likely to get damaged with constant open and close action
- Soft keys (prefer Samsung home button)
- Screen is washed out and looks rubbish compared to AMOLED but it's not as bad as the reviews