I was curious to see how my new TF701 would stack up against some of the other Android devices in the stable.
Nothing scientific here, just installed Antutu on all the devices and ran it. 2 of the devices are rooted, 3 are running stock android.
The interesting thing is how well the new Dell Venue 8 stacks up, considering it is $150 less than the Note 8.
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Guess, I didn't realize how strong the Shield was until running this little experiment. The memory issues of the TF700t are noticeable, along with the contrast from Tegra 3 to 4
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Great marks!
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Great marks!
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You'd hope that NVidia would get it right with the Tegra 4 chip and a games console! Just shows the potential the TF701t should have, and maybe when Asus update it to 4.3 maybe it'll run that much better as 4.3 is much more optimised/debloated.
For now, I'm holding off getting a new tab but some great side-by-side data there. Would be interested to see the Note 10.1 2014 in direct comparison too
I dont have a Note 10.1 but if anyone has Antutu rating for that device, I can add it in.
I will also update my little list here in a few days when the 4.3 update rolls out in the US.
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I dont have a Note 10.1 but if anyone has Antutu rating for that device, I can add it in.
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Awesome! I will add it in
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Galaxy Note 10.1 stacks up well also.
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Galaxy Note 10.1 stacks up well also.
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Looks like it falls back on 2D and 3D graphics a bit, but still smooth enough for what I play on it so I'm happy anyway.
Very similar scores there.
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Looks like it falls back on 2D and 3D graphics a bit, but still smooth enough for what I play on it so I'm happy anyway.
Very similar scores there.
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Absolutely. Good marks for it as I had expected. In the same group as other high end android devices.
It will be interesting to see how they all perform once KitKat rolls out, or better yet, custom ROMs with 4.4. From what I have read, it is supposed to use less system resources and have a smaller footprint. Google is trying to eliminate all the legacy Gingerbread devices.
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Google is trying to eliminate all the legacy Gingerbread devices.
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No. Google is trying to stop manufacturers (particularly those in Asia) from shipping NEW devices with GB. Old devices are not being upgraded to KK.
Hi All,
Good marks.
Is there any update for the TF701 with last version of Android I mean 4.3 ?
Thanks in advance.
PhilippeF said:
Hi All,
Good marks.
Is there any update for the TF701 with last version of Android I mean 4.3 ?
Thanks in advance.
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there is for some regions such as TW and US but not jp and WW etc well none that i have seen proof off.
though i expect out pretty soon.
In fairness though this tab only came out about 3 weeks ago in jp where as in america i think it was about 4 or 5 weeks ago. though i may be wrong.
I don`t have any issues like the us users were reporting except just last night it randomly rebooted in a game.
so maybe we will have to wait longer and go directly to 2.4 who knows though, i don`t see any social media that asus use to tell of any planned releases but it would be nice if they did.
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there is for some regions such as TW and US but not jp and WW etc well none that i have seen proof off.
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Well proof enough in several topics that WW 4.3. was out as one of the first.
Just Asus has removed it from their website for unknown reasons, but it is still possible to update to it by Ota.
I think you should compare the TF701 and TF700 using stock ROM for both.
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I think you should compare the TF701 and TF700 using stock ROM for both.
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Marks for the stock ROM on the TF700 would be lower than with CROMi-X. I am just too lazy to flash a stock rom for benchmarking, as my TF700 is up or sale on ebay.
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Marks for the stock ROM on the TF700 would be lower than with CROMi-X. I am just too lazy to flash a stock rom for benchmarking, as my TF700 is up or sale on ebay.
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Not necessarily. Even if real-world performance is slower, benchmark scores could be higher.
Which I guess makes this whole thing pointless lol
Question:
I found out that at my current Tf701 the 4 main cores lowest frequency when idling are not lower than 306 MHz.
They are not switched off!!
Just checked my tf700 and there they are switched off when idling.
Already did a full reboot and a cold reboot.
Who can tell me if this is correct or not? Seems to me not.
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Snah001 said:
Question:
I found out that at my current Tf701 the 4 main cores lowest frequency when idling are not lower than 306 MHz.
They are not switched off!!
Just checked my tf700 and there they are switched off when idling.
Already did a full reboot and a cold reboot.
Who can tell me if this is correct or not? Seems to me not.
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Well the Tegra 3 has 5 cores doesn't it? 1 is for low power idle mode. Does the Tegra 4 have the same?
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Well the Tegra 3 has 5 cores doesn't it? 1 is for low power idle mode. Does the Tegra 4 have the same?
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Yes, it has the 5th companion core and 4 main cores.
But the main cores are when not used switched off.
On the tf700 that is the case but on my tf701 they idle at 306 Mhz.
So that is not good and uses extra power.
But since we are unrooted and fully stock you can't do anything about it.
But..I use System tuner to monitor the cpu freq and maybe it isn't properly monitoring it because you can't see the companion core. All 4 cores are jumping up and down under load equally.
Tomorrow I will swap this one for a new one (hopefully a 2013.11 build) so then I can compare it doing a clean install.
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Dont get me wrong. The O2X community has grown considerably from the first time I got the phone 6 months ago. There's CM7, MIUI and leaked GB roms around which are all close to 100% functional.
However, I know for a fact the battery life in most if not all Android phones are average at best. That's the case with the O2X too. Even below average I should say. I still have no idea how you guys can have it last more that a day. Even with all the battery-saving tips, the most I can make it last is around 12 hours.
Another problem is LG itself. Official GB is yet to land after all these months. Hopes of an official ICS by LG is all but gone.
My point is, has anyone jumped ships to iOS? Going back to iOS after almost a full year with the Dell Streak and the O2X.
no i would NEVER get a ****ty iphone not even if it was free
Na, never purchased a apple product and never will.
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I got my O2X for the price of a 3GS not a 4S! I'd agree it's hardly the best phone if money is no object, but it's a hell of a lot better than the 3GS for the money.
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I got the o2x just to have an android device to play with and it was dirt cheap. I've never had the problems people speak of. Even though it isn't the smoothest I will never buy an apple device simply because their design is against upgrading/modding it yourself.
I plan to never buy an apple product unless their whole philosophy changes.
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3.5 Inch screen size are you kidding, no way. If you want to change ur device go for Nexus Prime, you will no longer need to wait six months for update.
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12 hours?
I have CM nightly #171 and it goes for 2 days on regular usage...
Here we talk about Smartphones.
Not about toys.
dude I dont know how you use your phone, are you playing games on it alot?? if not, how is it that you only last for 12 hours??
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dude I dont know how you use your phone, are you playing games on it alot?? if not, how is it that you only last for 12 hours??
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I don't game at all. I only have one home screen. But 3G is always on cos I use whatsapp alot. I'm also considering galaxy nexus and galaxy note. If they arrive here soon.
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Never Going for an apple product...Anyway i bought my o2x for custom roms..and we have cm7 and miui...soon we get cm9...so m not that worried really.
I dont know why but when i surf on the net with wifi my phone battery drops very fast. In on topogigi 2.0 with HP rc4 with -50 undervolt on alla clocks and no overclock, BB 823 and matching ril, retroillumination is set to 20%. I unplugged the phone at 7 o'clock, used google nav for 30 minuts, and surfed for 3 hours, and now the battery is 20%. I can't understand why :-(
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I don't game at all. I only have one home screen. But 3G is always on cos I use whatsapp alot. I'm also considering galaxy nexus and galaxy note. If they arrive here soon.
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ohh I see the problem there, you cant find a phone these days with 3g always on and lasting any longer than that... 3g/mobile data is a battery hog, we all know that sadly even if you try other droids, you wont get any higher battery than that
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ohh I see the problem there, you cant find a phone these days with 3g always on and lasting any longer than that... 3g/mobile data is a battery hog, we all know that sadly even if you try other droids, you wont get any higher battery than that
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yes you can get better battery then 12 hours, i have minimum 24 hours on my phone with nomal-heavy use
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Here we talk about Smartphones.
Not about toys.
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So what are you doing with your smartphone? Toying?
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Except LG Update issues and battery I'm really satisfied with 2x It;'s cost-effective. As we always talks negetive which is true let's take a look at positive aspects.
First of all display yep it does has bleeding issue but IPS display is adorable in compare to AMOLED plus.
And sooner or later they'll release kernel sources of GB and that will massively progress development and Soon we can taste ICS from CM
And battery first of all 1500mAH is not sufficient evenif S2 with 1600 has battery probs but you could always buy a battery >2400mAh battery cant be a good reason to change a device.
As per the price we've got more than enough.
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Except LG Update issues and battery I'm really satisfied with 2x It;'s cost-effective. As we always talks negetive which is true let's take a look at positive aspects.
First of all display yep it does has bleeding issue but IPS display is adorable in compare to AMOLED plus.
And sooner or later they'll release kernel sources of GB and that will massively progress development and Soon we can taste ICS from CM
And battery first of all 1500mAH is not sufficient evenif S2 with 1600 has battery probs but you could always buy a battery >2400mAh battery cant be a good reason to change a device.
As per the price we've got more than enough.
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Completely agree
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Sick of LG for sure but never a iphone. Samsung our HTC again after this
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For me, it was a mistake to purchase the P990, but the move from iOS to Android was eye-opening. I will never go back to iOS again.
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For me, it was a mistake to purchase the P990, but the move from iOS to Android was eye-opening. I will never go back to iOS again.
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EPIC !!
The Nexus 7 was my very first tablet and in spite of Apple's obnoxious claims it is a great device and I certainly don't understand what advantages a thin aluminum back has over plastic. While I truly admire the openness of the stock android experience, I was completely underwhelmed by the display's washed out color and overall sharpness/clarity. I gave the device an honest try and rooted it as well as tried a few ROMs. While I was completely happy with the amount of development and amazing ROMs that are available I just couldn't get over the color issue. So I returned it and exchanged it for the new Kindle fire HD.
Immediately I could tell the difference... the display, unbelievably, was perfectly calibrated based on a slew of websites that I used to calibrate my monitors at home. I realize that I lost the openness of android and the ability to flash custom ROMs, but I have happy with what the device is capable of out of the box. I mainly got the device to watch movies and play games while I'm on the road which is a lot and it does that very well. To make up for the loss of openness I saved $50 and put it towards the 3rd party 2-year warranty which was actually cheaper than the N7's due to the Kindle being considered an E-Reader which was pretty convenient.
Interesting you say this, because I only experience washed out colours after video playback. I think this is due to a software issue on nVidias end and am hoping it gets fixed with 4.2. I'm happy you like your Kindle but seriously, why post this in a N7 forum? You're just going to get a load of hate as to how the N7 is better. I for one agree with those haters. I. Buy an android over a iOS device because it is open and customisable, the Kindle is neither customisable or open.
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Other way for me.. picked up the KFHD and couldn't cope with it's half gimped android system that I went to the N7 and been happy since. Don't get me wrong, the KFHD has awesome hardware and better color calibration, I could notice the difference, especially since I had both in hand but since I returned it, I haven't missed anything from the KFHD.
The locked Amazon ecosystem was a real turn off for me, but if it works for you, great. Everyone has different needs and wants.
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Believe me I did my research on the issue. I wanted to keep the device and it wasn't an easy decision. But for what it's worth, the specs of the Kindle are better, the color quality is certainly better, and the Kindle UI isn't all that bad. I was able to root it and put Google Play on it so really all I lost was complete customization even though I can use a different launcher.
I posted it here as a reference to anyone else looking to get the device... Again, the N7 is great and would have preferred to keep it, but it just didn't work for me and honestly I expected more from Asus/nVidia because an issue such as this is hard not to notice and should have been fixed before release.
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the specs of the Kindle are better.
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you're gonna get hammered on this one... :silly:
Kindle is heavier... only has dual core 1.2.... half the battery life... no NFC... no true android OS... missing out on tegra gaming
Not argueing with your opinion of "liking" the kindle ... but it doesn't have better specs
Only thing they snuck in there was the nice dual band dual antenna wifi setup... that's a better spec
And the washed out color thing is just opinion... I don't even see it... but I'm not that picky about that I guess...
I messed around with the KFHD the other day and there's no way I would give up the nexus 7 specs for marginally better color rendering... nope
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you're gonna get hammered on this one... :silly:
Kindle is heavier... only has dual core 1.2.... half the battery life... no NFC... no true android OS... missing out on tegra gaming
Not argueing with your opinion of "liking" the kindle ... but it doesn't have better specs
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No GPS, no fast updates,... no GAPPs
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b00mb00mchuck said:
you're gonna get hammered on this one... :silly:
Kindle is heavier... only has dual core 1.2.... half the battery life... no NFC... no true android OS... missing out on tegra gaming
Not argueing with your opinion of "liking" the kindle ... but it doesn't have better specs
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It is heavier yes, but the processor is at the very least the same if not better based on several sources, Amazon claims to have 1 more hour over the N7 (Though that could change with different ROM's and Kernels), sound is better, and the wireless is better. NFC/GPS is about the only thing (hardware-wise) that the N7 has over it.
Most of the Gapps can be installed and I have heard of several users getting pretty accurate locations using wireless and google maps.
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It is heavier yes, but the processor is at the very least the same if not better based on several sources, Amazon claims to have 1 more hour over the N7 (Though that could change with different ROM's and Kernels), sound is better, and the wireless is better. NFC/GPS is about the only thing (hardware-wise) that the N7 has over it.
Most of the Gapps can be installed and I have heard of several users getting pretty accurate locations using wireless and google maps.
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Do you have the Kindle Fire 7 HD or 8.9HD?
The processor in the 7 sucks compared to Tegra 3,with the larger Fire have a comparable one.
And for what it's worth, all colors issues seemed solved with the new 4.1.2 update. Though have fun with your Kindle.
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Do you have the Kindle Fire 7 HD or 8.9HD?
The processor in the 7 sucks compared to Tegra 3,with the larger Fire have a comparable one.
And for what it's worth, all colors issues seemed solved with the new 4.1.2 update. Though have fun with your Kindle.
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The 7 is the only one that's out. The 8.9 comes out next month. I'm no expert, but if you google the comparisons and look at the CPU discussions you'll find that what I said is true. The Fire's CPU is on par or better... not worse. I also had 4.1.2 on the Nexus I had.
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It is heavier yes, but the processor is at the very least the same if not better based on several sources, Amazon claims to have 1 more hour over the N7
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If you're thinking that 1.2GHz dual core OMAP is as good as 1.3GHz quad core TEGRA 3... you're reading the wrong reviews... look at a non biased site like CNET... they do their own testing and show half the battery life playing video
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I googled like you said but I keep seeing the same stories
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The 7 is the only one that's out. The 8.9 comes out next month. I'm no expert, but if you google the comparisons and look at the CPU discussions you'll find that what I said is true. The Fire's CPU is on par or better... not worse. I also had 4.1.2 on the Nexus I had.
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THe Kindle HD 7 uses the OMAP4460 SoC, which is the same one found on the Galaxy Nexus. It's an cortex A9 dual core with a GPU that is also found in the original Samsung Galaxy and Nexus S, but overclocked. Tegra with is a cortex A9 quad core with a more advanced GPU. The OMAP4470 found in the 8.9" Kindle is another story. It does have a better GPU than the older OMAP 4460 but how it compares to the Tegra 3 GPU I am not sure.
Also, according to Displaymate, the Nexus 7 LCD panel is actually pretty decent. It is just hindered by bad software calibration which can be corrected with an update.
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THe Kindle HD 7 uses the OMAP4460 SoC, which is the same one found on the Galaxy Nexus. It's an cortex A9 dual core with a GPU that is also found in the original Samsung Galaxy and Nexus S, but overclocked. Tegra with is a cortex A9 quad core with a more advanced GPU. The OMAP4470 found in the 8.9" Kindle is another story. It does have a better GPU than the older OMAP 4460 but how it compares to the Tegra 3 GPU I am not sure.
Also, according to Displaymate, the Nexus 7 LCD panel is actually pretty decent. It is just hindered by bad software calibration which can be corrected with an update.
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I agree with you 100% that the 4460 is behind the Tegra in raw specs. But having both of them my Galaxy Nexus out performs my N7 in daily use, it'll run circles. Both are running the same nightly on CM10. I think it has more to do with a slow EMMC, but that may be why the OP feels the 4460 is better.
I do wish Asus built better products though
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In all fairness I may just take this Kindle back on Monday and pick up the 32GB Nexus if they have it and hope that it doesn't have the same issues since it's newer. The ads on the KF are a bit obtrusive and annoying to say the least.
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In all fairness I may just take this Kindle back on Monday and pick up the 32GB Nexus if they have it and hope that it doesn't have the same issues since it's newer. The ads on the KF are a bit obtrusive and annoying to say the least.
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Don't let people change your mind, Like I said in my first post. This is what you get for posting the fact you have a KFHD in the N7 forum, people will rip you for it. If you like your KF keep it.
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Don't let people change your mind, Like I said in my first post. This is what you get for posting the fact you have a KFHD in the N7 forum, people will rip you for it. If you like your KF keep it.
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+1
Don't succumb to peer pressure, keep what you want and works for you.
Like mentioned above, you're in the N7 section, people here will favor that device.
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tkoreaper said:
In all fairness I may just take this Kindle back on Monday and pick up the 32GB Nexus if they have it and hope that it doesn't have the same issues since it's newer. The ads on the KF are a bit obtrusive and annoying to say the least.
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The fact that you paid good money for it and they splash ads on it is the dealbreaker for me. If they subsidized it maybe I could understand.
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tkoreaper said:
In all fairness I may just take this Kindle back on Monday and pick up the 32GB Nexus if they have it and hope that it doesn't have the same issues since it's newer. The ads on the KF are a bit obtrusive and annoying to say the least.
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I have a 32gb Nexus from Office Depot and the screen is exactly the same as the 16gb I had.
The Nexus is a better unit hardware wise but its whatever you like. The screen is something you spend a lot of time looking at. So make sure you are happy with it. Trinity kernels come pre-color calibrated to give that pop. Still might not be enough for your tastes though.
On the other hand you can flash custom roms on the Fire.
In my experience though, roms on those kinds of devices are far from perfect. May not be bad now but with newer Android versions, things will be missing and/or not 100%. Nexus devices really have longevity in this regards. Even in a few years, we'll still have the latest and greatest updates.
Updates and support won me over. Else I'd look at the Galaxy Tab 7 2. Walmart had them on sale for $249. Samsung would give you a true tablet experience and a nice screen... but updates from Samsung are sparse too.
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I agree with you 100% that the 4460 is behind the Tegra in raw specs. But having both of them my Galaxy Nexus out performs my N7 in daily use, it'll run circles. Both are running the same nightly on CM10. I think it has more to do with a slow EMMC, but that may be why the OP feels the 4460 is better.
I do wish Asus built better products though
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Not sure what I'm doing wrong or you're doing wrong but my nexus 7 runs circles around my Galaxy Nexus. Both running cm10 also. If there is an app updating in the background my gnex is frustratingly slow, the 7 just flies.
Either way the Kindle is probably the better consumption device, but less capable overall and for most of us a non starter due to the os.
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Good glad to see you didn't get sucked into Apple and their bs !
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To see how it stacks up against the competition, I booted up my benchmark test and hit go. On the Geekbench test, it returned a frankly astonishing score of 1,975, putting it just below the powerhouse Galaxy Note 2 and far above the S3. It did similarly well on the CF-Bench test, where it managed to achieve 13,207, again well clear of the S3.
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Processor and battery: Though the Nexus 4's data speeds might not be blazingly fast, the 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core CPU makes its internal speed swift and smooth. Graphics-intense games like Riptide GP and Asphalt 7 played extremely well, launching and running with no stalls or hiccups. The games both displayed high frame rates with high-resolution graphics.
Because of the phone's ultrafast CPU, gameplay was crisp, smooth, and fast.
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In addition, average start time for the handset was about 23 seconds, and it took about 1.82 seconds to launch the camera. Browsing on Chrome was a lot smoother on this device than on the Optimus G for some reason. For instance, scrolling down Web pages was executed much more swiftly.
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The GLbenchmarks scores look promising as you would expect. Quallcomm also has a record of drastically improving 3D performance over time with driver updates, let's hope they do the same with the Adreno 320.
Antutu however doesn't seem like it's a good way to measure the Performance of highend smartphones anymore.
The 3D and 2D scores are totally useless as the test are completely Vsync limited meaning that all new Smartphones score the same.
I also doesn't seem right that the Tegra 3 has a higher CPU score at the same clockspeed.
It's about time someone develops a decent benchmark suite for android.
This shouldn't be a surprise since the power of the Adreno 320 is mainly the SGX 543MP2 and SGX543MP4. So it has half the (GPU)power of the iPad 3, though it's sorta close to the iPhone 5(SGX543MP3). I'm actually surprised that Android phones haven't been using the SGX solution--would've been epic if the Nexus 4 had the SGX Rogue.
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This shouldn't be a surprise since the power of the Adreno 320 is mainly the SGX 543MP2 and SGX543MP4. So it has half the (GPU)power of the iPad 3, though it's sorta close to the iPhone 5(SGX543MP3). I'm actually surprised that Android phones haven't been using the SGX solution--would've been epic if the Nexus 4 had the SGX Rogue.
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HMM Nexus 4 beat Ipad 3 in most of the tests
but in low level benchmark ipad win not sure why
Any quadrant scores please?
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This shouldn't be a surprise since the power of the Adreno 320 is mainly the SGX 543MP2 and SGX543MP4. So it has half the (GPU)power of the iPad 3, though it's sorta close to the iPhone 5(SGX543MP3). I'm actually surprised that Android phones haven't been using the SGX solution--would've been epic if the Nexus 4 had the SGX Rogue.
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Im pretty sure the Gnex and NexusS had SGX's cards
Anyone have the sunspider scores compared to the iphone5? thanks!
yahyoh said:
HMM Nexus 4 beat Ipad 3 in most of the tests
but in low level benchmark ipad win not sure why
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You have to take into account that iPhone has a higher resolution screen than the Nexus 4...
Pertaining hentrite
rkantos said:
You have to take into account that iPhone has a higher resolution screen than the Nexus 4...
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No it doesn't?
EDIT: Oh, you probably meant iPad 3
BatteryCro said:
No it doesn't?
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Im certain he was referring to the iPad 3 that was referenced for comparison.
yahyoh said:
HMM Nexus 4 beat Ipad 3 in most of the tests
but in low level benchmark ipad win not sure why
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If we could normalize the iPad3's ridiculous resolution then it would win in every tests--Andantech showed that the Nexus 4 is between the iPad 2 & iPad 3 in terms of power(GPU).
BennyJr said:
Im pretty sure the Gnex and NexusS had SGX's cards
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Yes that's correct(including every Galaxy S1 phone aka Hummingbird chips). Though I meant to say that no Android phone has a *modern* SGX model like the 544/543.
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You have to take into account that iPhone has a higher resolution screen than the Nexus 4...
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Yeah if the iPad has a logical resolution then the scores would be different.
Damn that total disappoint benchmarks compared to Exynos 4412 in note 2
my old s2 get 1350ms in sunspider with stock cpu speed + cm10
Edit : WTF my s2 get 1500 point in vellamo
I guess I'm slow. Can someone explain to me how it is that the Nexus 4 and Optimus g are getting such different scores? The only thing I can figure is the kernel needs refining on the Nexus.
estallings15 said:
I guess I'm slow. Can someone explain to me how it is that the Nexus 4 and Optimus g are getting such different scores? The only thing I can figure is the kernel needs refining on the Nexus.
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Only thing that can explain it is the hardware is throttled back.
yahyoh said:
Damn that total disappoint benchmarks compared to Exynos 4412 in note 2
my old s2 get 1350ms in sunspider with stock cpu speed + cm10
Edit : WTF my s2 get 1500 point in vellamo
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My Galaxy S2 got 1960 in Vellamo
and 1200ms in Sunspider running CM10 and Siyah Kernel,
but I wouldn't be too concerned we already know that the S4 pro is a beast, and what's more important is real world performance,
I guess there will be Android 4.2.1 when the device arrives that will improve Javascript perfomance.
Venekor said:
Only thing that can explain it is the hardware is throttled back.
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or maybe stock kernel is piece of crap :silly:
yahyoh said:
or maybe stock kernel is piece of crap :silly:
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This
yahyoh said:
or maybe stock kernel is piece of crap :silly:
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Yeah, that's actually what I was thinking. Bring on that source code!
i remember something when i first saw gnex benchmarks i said WTF this crap then after i bought it and flashed CM9 then CM10 or AOKP with Franco or trinty kernel and damn , u feel the phone then worked with full power
Most likely overheating (thermal throttling). Google should have stayed with dual core.
I had the HTC One S before, but wanted the Google Nexus experience (vanilla Android, latest updates (and on this phone compared to the One S quad core, 2GB RAM, etc..) and the price was too good to pass up. I mean, the value for money with this phone is amazing, I don't think I have ever seen, or will ever see better, but...
Coming from the One S, it seems like a huge step down. The phone seems a lot bigger in comparison (mainly width and especially depth), yet when taking into consideration the on screen back/home buttons, the screen is pretty much the same size, but a little wider (maybe 5mm)
Also, when doing a Quadrant test, the One S looks much smoother on the video parts, and the overall score is miles better (score of 6452 vs 4798) on everything
One S v Nexus 4
CPU: 9211 v 10402
RAM: 12383 v 7020
I/O: 7408 v 4149
2D: 1014 v 247
3D: 2245 v 2173
The One S also has HTC Sense which I like (but can live without)
Maybe I will get used to this phone, or just appreciate it more when the next update comes out, but in the mean time I don't really see a huge improvement in speed/responsiveness or the screen over the One S
I can imagine it being a huge improvement over plenty of other phones however, but I think the One S is unbelievably underrated and actually more powerful than I thought it was before. I feel like the Nexus 4 is a downgrade for me right now. I understand the Nexus is thicker because of the wireless charging plate? Well, this is something I would give up for a slimmer phone, especially considering the phone doesn't come with a wireless charging unit.
I don't wanna sound like I'm just bashing the phone, is there anything I should try out on the Nexus 4 that I would be missing on other phones (already tried Photosphere which is great btw)
There is already a nexus 4 vs any other phone thread present as a sticky in which this should have been posted. Didn't need a whole new thread dedicated to this
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Honestly, noone cares...
I think I regret reading your thread
ingenious247 said:
I think I regret reading your thread
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Awe man you beat me to it:good:
Eh, if anything, I'm sure you could probably trade back for a One S.
Both are great phones, but at least you can say you gave the Nexus 4 a try.
I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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badboy47 said:
I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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This. Quadrant is a random number generator at best.
naripsta said:
Eh, if anything, I'm sure you could probably trade back for a One S.
Both are great phones, but at least you can say you gave the Nexus 4 a try.
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I like the Nexus 4, but I really like the One S too
In fact one thing I just noticed (found in another Google search) is if you put them side by side on a table they're the same depth (of course the One S is slimmer in the middle)
Maybe I need to get used to the feel of it...
I'm gonna use the Nexus 4 for one full week instead of the One S and see how it goes
Anything you recommend me trying out on the N4?
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I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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Nah I don't care about the Quadrant score, but the scores just really surprised me. I think the RAM comes down to LPDDR2 (low power DDR2 instead of DDR2) and I don't know about the I/O (thought it was all flash storage)
The GPU results surprised me though (the video looks smoother) as I thought the N4 had a dedicated GPU chip?
One of the problems I think is everybody compares phones to the One X, nobody has really done any great One S v Nexus 4 comparisons
The nexus 4 runs fast, is a great phone to use, has sufficient battery life for me, and cost half of the HTC phone you mentioned.
I really don't see the point in running benchmarks all day and not worrying about real usage and real cost. If you want to be a benchmark jockey you will always be running after the latest and greatest phone and lusting after every new phone ever 2 months.
The nexus 4 is a great phone and a solid purchase. If you regret buying it, sell it and get something else. But if your nexus 4 isn't defective in some way realize that the problem is with you and your inability to be happy with anything, and not with the phone that is a great performer and great value. I can already see that you're the kind of guy who will never be happy with anything, as you owned an HTC One S and then bought a phone that came out 6 months later. You won't be happy with anything as long as you see something shinier. You are the perfect customer.
Quadrant gets weird scores on Nexus 4, no one really 100% sure why.
Try Antutu, with a bionic optimised rom (most roms have this now) you get 21000+ scores; Antutu had to be updated when Nexus 4 (with 4.2.1) came out because of weird low scores, quadrant was never updated.
Also get your full screen by removing the nav bar and using something else like pie controls from LMT.
edit.. also '3dmark' test will show you the adreno320 in the nexus4 blowing everything else away.
You're incredibly stupid to base your phone choice over some benchmarks.
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Quadrant gets weird scores on Nexus 4, no one really 100% sure why.
Try Antutu, with a bionic optimised rom (most roms have this now) you get 21000+ scores; Antutu had to be updated when Nexus 4 (with 4.2.1) came out because of weird low scores, quadrant was never updated.
Also get your full screen by removing the nav bar and using something else like pie controls from LMT.
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Yeah, I have seen some people posting Quadrant scores of like 7500+ on the Nexus 4
I'm still running stock everything (unrooted) - maybe I need to just root it and try some different ROMs, etc..
Pie Control looks sweet too, will check it out
bsaidmalta said:
You're incredibly stupid to base your phone choice over some benchmarks.
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leave it out
Quadrant doesnt like 4.2. Antutu and 3Dmark are better guages of performance.
LooieENG said:
Anything you recommend me trying out on the N4?
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Hmm, not sure really. The Nexus 4 is pretty much that, a Nexus device with pure Android. I can see why it may (not saying that it does for you) be boring or not as flashy. But there's not much to try out for the Nexus 4. Everything is pretty basic and minimalistic, and that's why some go for the Nexus I suppose.
With the N4, you get a decent device that can run with the best of them. If you're into flashing ROMs, pretty much almost every ROM posted here will work with very very minimal bugs, if any bugs at that. Although the One S isn't a bad device at all, so it's really up to you. :good:
My Nexus 4 absolutely fly's.. it speeds through everything.
It's all well and good having a number on a screen but I owned a HTC ONE briefly and many apps on that lagged yet run fine on my Nexus 4?
Oh great another one of these threads. IB4L
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Can you please give your phone to me? I will pay you 50 $ because its so not good and you can go back to your wonderfull htc one s... :banghead:
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LooieENG said:
Yeah, I have seen some people posting Quadrant scores of like 7500+ on the Nexus 4
I'm still running stock everything (unrooted) - maybe I need to just root it and try some different ROMs, etc..
Pie Control looks sweet too, will check it out
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yea, if you are running your device at 1.8ghz+ and have other things optimized(custom rom/custom kernel), itll score high. at stock speeds and the stock rom/kernel it will never get close.
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Hi everyone, i want to share something that most of u dont know...
Quadrant can be manipulated in order to get higher scores. Just download this and share your scores before and after using this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.doomlord.quadrantbooster
Whit the hack installed and activated you cant get up to 2k+ to your usual score. Thats why i dont trust Quadrant, just Antutu.
Note: This app doesnt increase your device performance, just manipulate the scores.
The app was developed by DoomLord, is a recognized dev, so dont be scared to try. Needs root.
Have a nice day ^^
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Haha
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Why would someone want to spoof their benchmarks? So that they matter even less than they already do?
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Samsung never cheated, merely took the cap off the HW and let it fly. I do not particularly care about benchmarks, but if I did, I'd like to see the absolute HW maximum, cause that's the whole point.
I do check benchmarks of new SoCs though, to get a rought estimate what they can do.
No. They cheated.
BoneXDA said:
Samsung never cheated, merely took the cap off the HW and let it fly. I do not particularly care about benchmarks, but if I did, I'd like to see the absolute HW maximum, cause that's the whole point.
I do check benchmarks of new SoCs though, to get a rought estimate what they can do.
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Yes they did, letting the device overclocl itself when a benchmark app is open is cheating because you get scores you normally won't have...
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You are a fu##ing legend
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I'm fairly sure this hack hasn't worked for a long time.. it boosts your I/O scores by putting data in working memory.. would only help if running older hardware
I haven't actually tried it though
failly said:
Yes they did, letting the device overclocl itself when a benchmark app is open is cheating because you get scores you normally won't have...
You are a fu##ing legend
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There is no such thing as "normal operation", clocks change all the time so our battery doesn't die by 11AM. Some Sammy apps get access to more performance, others hit nowhere near maximum for efficiency, which is why benchmarking doesn't tell the everyday story. It tells developers how far the HW can go, and the Note 3 shows the SD800 raw capabilities better than say the benchmarks of the Nexus 5.
For everyday performance like Chrome, Flipboard etc., use Chrome, Flipboard etc. for testing.
meangreenie said:
I'm fairly sure this hack hasn't worked for a long time.. it boosts your I/O scores by putting data in working memory.. would only help if running older hardware
I haven't actually tried it though
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Yeah a lot of the reviews on the Play store are saying it actually lowers their overall score
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There is no such thing as "normal operation", clocks change all the time so our battery doesn't die by 11AM. Some Sammy apps get access to more performance, others hit nowhere near maximum for efficiency, which is why benchmarking doesn't tell the everyday story. It tells developers how far the HW can go, and the Note 3 shows the SD800 raw capabilities better than say the benchmarks of the Nexus 5.
For everyday performance like Chrome, Flipboard etc., use Chrome, Flipboard etc. for testing.
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IMO, it's like doping.
The athletes(Samsung's phone) can run fast but without this doping(benchmark booster file of Samsung) they run slower.
There indeed isn't such thing as a 'normal clock', but there is such thing as a maximum clock frequency, pushing this frequency means overclocking.
In some way it isn't cheating because overclocking is a known term.
On the other side it makes it cheating since 'normal' that doesn't know sh#t about overclocking, will have their phone getting overclocked without even knowing it.
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meangreenie said:
I'm fairly sure this hack hasn't worked for a long time.. it boosts your I/O scores by putting data in working memory.. would only help if running older hardware
I haven't actually tried it though
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I can confirm is still working, gonna upload some screenshots later.
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AlderCass said:
Why would someone want to spoof their benchmarks? So that they matter even less than they already do?
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Why would someone run a benchmark? Because they care about the scores.
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ChavitoArg said:
Why would someone run a benchmark? Because they care about the scores.
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To check the performance of their device, and to compare it with others. To check performance differences before and after flashing roms etc. But definitely not so that they can lie about how powerful their device is, when it really isn't.
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Why would someone run a benchmark? Because they care about the scores.
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If they care about the scores, why would they intentionally use an app to make those scores completely inaccurate?
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If they care about the scores, why would they intentionally use an app to make those scores completely inaccurate?
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Dont take me wrong.
There is people that care about the score just to show off, because of it the app exist and because of this there is people using and rating the app. I wanted to show that quadrant doesnt show real performance, it can easily be manipulated.
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confirmed, it does work on 4.4.2 using motox dalvik
but it's fairly obvious if you have used it lol.. on my nexus 5 I got 15000 plus io score
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There is no such thing as "normal operation", clocks change all the time so our battery doesn't die by 11AM. Some Sammy apps get access to more performance, others hit nowhere near maximum for efficiency, which is why benchmarking doesn't tell the everyday story. It tells developers how far the HW can go, and the Note 3 shows the SD800 raw capabilities better than say the benchmarks of the Nexus 5.
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Yes there is such a thing as normal operation.
They cheated. They were the only ones that overclocked the gpu for any apps on its white list. Nothing else could ever use that gpu clock period. It detected a app and gave the system a higher clock than the device would otherwise be able to hit. It's pure cheating.
They also basically turned off the thermal throttle. Another pure cheat.
They aren't doing this for developers. What a crock. They're doing it to cheat and inflate benchmark scores so their devices look better on a chart or in some clueless YouTube reviewers video.
The app just puts everything to max frequency. Not much of a hack..
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Yes there is such a thing as normal operation.
They cheated. They were the only ones that overclocked the gpu for any apps on its white list. Nothing else could ever use that gpu clock period. It detected a app and gave the system a higher clock than the device would otherwise be able to hit. It's pure cheating.
They also basically turned off the thermal throttle. Another pure cheat.
They aren't doing this for developers. What a crock. They're doing it to cheat and inflate benchmark scores so their devices look better on a chart or in some clueless YouTube reviewers video.
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Supercars are speed capped for street use, and you know you'll never run them at full speed; yet watching a car show I bet you wanna see them pushed to the limit, don't ya?
The point you are missing is that if Samsung can make the Note 3 blow the roof over your head, then you can too if you are a talented developer, otherwise why even bother with benchmarks, you don't need such power for your everyday apps. Quite the contrary: Samsung & others cheat every other app setting lower clock policies for longer battery life. Now tell me how many happy Note users are complaining that their alarm clock or live wallpaper doesn't run at full clock?
If they don't, why do you?