Anyone try KitKat with their S4 - Samsung Galaxy Gear

Im going to be picking up a Galaxy Gear tomorrow and want to know what roms work well. My favorite is AOKP 4.3.1 but im trying out kitkat and not sure what to have running to enjoy it.
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Phoneguy589 said:
Im going to be picking up a Galaxy Gear tomorrow and want to know what roms work well. My favorite is AOKP 4.3.1 but im trying out kitkat and not sure what to have running to enjoy it.
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If you want everything to work, you need Touchwiz. There's lots of threads here like this

Wasnt sure 100%. Im on Vision 4.3 right now as ive read 4.2.2 roms dont completely work fully. Thanks 4 the reply man!
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Why is ROM development so slow for HTC phones?

I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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richyrocket said:
I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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lol! Cyanogenmod ROM comes first before stock ROM? Ain't believing it buddy
useful ROM = Stock ROM
Nono, the evo 3d has unofficial cyanogenmod at least 3 months after the epic 4g receives official. Two, unofficial AOSP roms seem to be more stable (and released earlier) on galaxy s devices than htc devices why is that? Both being flagships, what leaves htc behind in custom AOSP roms?
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My galaxy s would be on. 2.3, it is now on 4.2. The evo would be on 4.0 with outdated sense, it is now on 4.1. Nexus 7, stock 4.2. I use stock until the phone ages, and stock isn't good enough. I plan to have my next phone for 2 years, I might as well choose a phone that will stay current throughout those two years.
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HTC supports the flagship in every way possible, look at the One X. Even the newly released One is getting OTA at a crazy rate. And for custom rom developers, my Desire HD has fully stable 4.2.2 CM, AOKP and even paranoid. I hope this was helpful
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I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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richyrocket said:
I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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I really think that the One is getting a huge developer community. Look at the android development thread. 4 ROMs already released (with tweaks) while only a few have got the device till now
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I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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richyrocket said:
I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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Some comparison videos on YouTube might help
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Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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richyrocket said:
Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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I've never owned a Samsung, but I've owned 2 HTCs, and my device is great in durability. I have this phone for about 2.5 years and I drop it around once every 3 days (obviously not intentionally) and it still runs good, no issues. For Samsung, you should read Samsung forums.
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Ohh ok I got it now. Unfortunately there's won't be any CM or AOSP ROMs until kernel source code is out. Thing is Stock kernel is not compatible with AOSP/CM ROMs and the other way around since both custom and stock has some functions added to the kernel for it to work.
And the thing here is samsung releases kernel source code earlier than HTC. So it really depends on the situation. And by the way samsung is not releasing opening up it's exynos to developers. And now that samsung implemented octa core & big little architecture on their new processors. I doubt they would be able to make a CM/AOSP ROM anytime soon on S4.
I know cm10.1 runs slow as heck on my wife's one x as a custom sense rom works smooth as butter. On my note 2 cm10.1 actually runs better than any touchwiz rom. My advice is to wait until there both out and go see them in person. Both phones will get a good bit of development.
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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richyrocket said:
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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You don't need s-off to run aosp. You just need to unlock on htc dev or buy the dev edition one that htc will offer. But yes I'm sure in time we will get s-off for everyone. Lol.. I remember the wire trick, I used to own a rezound, horrid phone. No I just did s-off on my wife's new one x and its just a command line hack and software.
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richyrocket said:
It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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I dunno as I've run aosp on a few htc's I've had and it ran fine.
Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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richyrocket said:
Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Good question and I have no answer. My hopes is it will get a 4.2.2 update soon after launch.
I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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Doubt that, it's not unusual for phones to ship a version behind. But with the s4 shipping with the latest I'd hope htc will push an update ASAP.

Returning to get S4?

Ive been thinking about returning my one to get a s4 from sprint. My main reason is that I dont find any info that the one will ever get a 100% working aosp rom as im not a huge fan of sense or touchwiz and the s4 is already getting cm nightlies for some variants and shouldn't be long till all versions do. Also what phone do you think will get more dev support?
promackid said:
Ive been thinking about returning my one to get a s4 from sprint. My main reason is that I dont find any info that the one will ever get a 100% working aosp rom as im not a huge fan of sense or touchwiz and the s4 is already getting cm nightlies for some variants and shouldn't be long till all versions do. Also what phone do you think will get more dev support?
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Don't let the door split ya where the good Lord split ya!
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if you did a search before you started a useless thread. you would have seen this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40724019
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The S4 needs Cm10.1 cause its a pos with stock Touchwiz, the One on the other hand is tits right out of the box and only getting better
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Pretty sure that if you been "modding" devices alike for awhile you would know more about HTC devices and there source code and binaries arn't just a overnight process to port (not to say samsung are easier at times).
AOSP is very close to being done via the msm8960 group that is porting all the code daily. Daniel on the team posted this on his Google+ today Cm10.1 HTC ONE. By next week we will almost have a working AOSP build / kernel for this device, outside polishing its gonna be awesome and worth the wait. If you insist on a s4 go for it! its your money, your decision!
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The S4 needs Cm10.1 cause its a pos with stock Touchwiz, the One on the other hand is tits right out of the box and only getting better
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I agree, touchwiz is terrible imo. With the One you get sense 5 and aosp, the best of both worlds. Tons of people working on things daily, should only get better in the One forums.
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doakills said:
Pretty sure that if you been "modding" devices alike for awhile you would know more about HTC devices and there source code and binaries arn't just a overnight process to port (not to say samsung are easier at times).
AOSP is very close to being done via the msm8960 group that is porting all the code daily. Daniel on the team posted this on his Google+ today Cm10.1 HTC ONE. By next week we will almost have a working AOSP build / kernel for this device, outside polishing its gonna be awesome and worth the wait. If you insist on a s4 go for it! its your money, your decision!
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What about sprint versions you think we will see some aosp action?
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What about sprint versions you think we will see some aosp action?
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There are a few test builds out now.
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There are a few test builds out now.
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Yep. Right here. The team is working on all vsriants. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266048
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266048
CM 10.1.. Now if you have any other reasons to switch to the s4 you should consider them. From personal experience I gave up my evo 4g lte for a galaxy s3 and really missed my htc phone. Now I am back with the htc one.
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266048
CM 10.1.. Now if you have any other reasons to switch to the s4 you should consider them. From personal experience I gave up my evo 4g lte for a galaxy s3 and really missed my htc phone. Now I am back with the htc one.
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Agreed, I had the evo lte, then I got the S3 off ebay and used it for a week and went straight back to my evo lte, can't beat an HTC, gave the S3 to my wife
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I think all of these "one or s4, which.will have more dev" should be locked so they can sink and burn.

need s4 experience in s3 i9305....

hi i saw a saw a s4 like rom for s3 i9300.(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311671)...i would like a similar one for my s3 i9305....pl help
+1
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mervingeo said:
hi i saw a saw a s4 like rom for s3 i9300.(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311671)...i would like a similar one for my s3 i9305....pl help
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You can try to port it but ask the dev for permissions first, or you can wait for the dev to port it to our device.
+1 hope it will happen very soon! And maybe they could somehow take advantage of the extra gig of RAM!
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This is 4.2.2 touchwiz based rom so it can't be ported as for now. If you want your i9305 to look like s4, try Xposed/Jkay Framework or Lidroid/ripper Rom. These modifications can allow you to flash s4 themes. Not an perfect solution but still woth a try.
P.S. My suggestion, if you're off-contract, better get rid of this device and get a Note 3 in september.

Galaxy gear + s4. Need apps!! Please help

I am super stoked about getting ebay on the gear. Unfortunately I have a s4 and 4.2.2 can someone maybe upload it? Or is that even possible?
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No worry ... here are all the apps from Note3 which are mostly compatible with S4 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476319
But if you get S4 (i9505), so better upgrade to 4.3, then ... no more worry! :victory:
Thank you for feeding my lazy search habits. Lol
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how patient will I be?

Well, with many thanks to jfbs and ArtfulDodger, my phone is alive again, after my ham-handed abuse. I had it stock for about a day before the desire to get rid of the bloatware made me root it. Now, it's rooted with the stock rom. Am I a reformed flashaholic? I don't know if I'm going to go back to the jb rom i was trying to get back on the phone, or will i stay with stock until kit kat makes it to the exhibit? I would love me some slimkat - j/s. They sat patience is a virtue, but I'm a 21st Century Digital Boy with the attention span of a gnat....
We do have KitKat I'm running it now
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I know. I read that. I'm just running rooted stock, right now. Kit Kat is a serious temptation. Hey a good kernel, like we had with jb, and I will....
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Guys even on the S2 with official updates KitKat is very buggy. It's a very fast ROM but it has to be the buggiest android release ever! I know a new OS has problems at times but geez we're to 4.4.1 now and still there are issues and ART is not cooperating much. I'd really wait a while before trying it.
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Guys even on the S2 with official updates KitKat is very buggy. It's a very fast ROM but it has to be the buggiest android release ever! I know a new OS has problems at times but geez we're to 4.4.1 now and still there are issues and ART is not cooperating much. I'd really wait a while before trying it.
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Thanks for letting us know. I figured I would wait a bit, for the wrinkles to get ironed out. Still pretty early. I'm happy with the Exhibit right now, so I can afford to wait a bit.
I'm happy with KitKat every thing I use has worked fine
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I'm happy with KitKat every thing I use has worked fine
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That's good to know. I am sure AD is a serious power user, compared to me. I do know that when I read the OP there are still some things missing which I might use, but i will do some research. I might just hold my nose and put CM on my phone.... lol!

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