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Let's develop for the Adam tablet!
One rule! No Questions in this development section!

Eggsellent....... Curious about what type of rooting protection it has built in. Rohan mentioned something about it the other day in an interview. Anyone have any ideas on what it might be? The company seems pretty bent on customer service, but at the same time, probably doesn't want too many people messing around with Eden.... Oh well. We shall see.

http://notioninkhacks.com/index.php/2010/12/22/questions-answer-with-rohan-of-notion-ink-part-2/
[ANDY] Why did you add protection against rooting?
[ROHAN] Its a tough call. Its not impossible to root Adam, but that would lead into cancellation of warranty. We are in talks with our partner to understand how we can resolve this.
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I already like this thread a lot...

I hope I get mine before I have to head back to school so I have time do something before spring. I dont wanna leave all the fun to you guys.

This is Andy from Notion Ink Hacks, I have sent a few emails to Rohan asking him to be different and allow for root access. At the end of the day if the root process is easy, the recovery tools are available, and good software is written for the device, I believe it will actually lower their return rates and promote growth, development, and excitement. You all think I am crazy for feeling this way?

zerofeel said:
This is Andy from Notion Ink Hacks, I have sent a few emails to Rohan asking him to be different and allow for root access. At the end of the day if the root process is easy, the recovery tools are available, and good software is written for the device, I believe it will actually lower their return rates and promote growth, development, and excitement. You all think I am crazy for feeling this way?
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The only reason I buy android devices is to be able to fully customize them. I like the option to remove factory apps, change color and modify the device to fit my needs. Also one thing is that if a devices is rooted and modified it can easily be undone if the device breaks. all companies are doing by making rooting void the warranty is making someone spend 2 extra minutes with the device before sending it in.
As for you point about return rate and growth and excitement is completely true. People follow developers and are excited when they release something. The reason I am on these forums right now is because I am always messing around with my phone. And it will defiantly lower return rates because if people dont like something it can be changed, there is a reason we waited a year to get the Adam and didnt setter for the iPad or another android device.

Not crazy at all! Thats great news. I'm looking forward to Jan 15 (ish). Happy New Year all.

Zooming
The one thing im a bit concerecned on is the zooming in the browser i think it looks laggy and slow. I either Notion Ink needs to fix this or someone from the community needs to helps out. I think the Adam with Honeycomb will be the best tablet out there. Imagine all the good things from honeycomb seen in heaps of videos today and then just swipe back up and there is eden. I can just see not only this tablet but the whole of Notion Ink grow and grow.

Yes, Honeycomb will be sweet on the Adam, unless the lack of apps makes it useless. I'm not sure what Notion Ink is thinking by not adding the Google Market. I had a Viewsonic G-tab for a few days (viewing angle was horrible) and before I rooted it and added the Market hack it was essentially a giant weather display/to-do list.
IMO the real Google Market will be my first reason to root the Adam.

I agree they do need the Google Market and I'm pretty sure that they will end up supporting it. Its just at the moment they are running 2.2/2.3 which is mobile phone software in which you need to be able to make phone calls or something for google to support them and give them the market. So once 3.0 comes out which is tablet optimised which will include android market for tablets, Notion Ink will be working there buts of to get the update out.

zerofeel said:
This is Andy from Notion Ink Hacks, I have sent a few emails to Rohan asking him to be different and allow for root access. At the end of the day if the root process is easy, the recovery tools are available, and good software is written for the device, I believe it will actually lower their return rates and promote growth, development, and excitement. You all think I am crazy for feeling this way?
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Thing is that it's always the wrong people rooting for the wrong reasons, messing things up... Quality Control is tough when you're dealing with stupid..
Not a flame or a bash on anyone, but you know those are out there and the first thing they will post is, I BRICKED.. blah NI Adams is the sucks.. and then the moron trains follows.
There was mention of "root protection", but I am sure those that know will get it done, hopefully there isn't some automated, script or 1click "no I really can mess my tablet up" process too soon after
-CC

lilmikz said:
I agree they do need the Google Market and I'm pretty sure that they will end up supporting it. Its just at the moment they are running 2.2/2.3 which is mobile phone software in which you need to be able to make phone calls or something for google to support them and give them the market. So once 3.0 comes out which is tablet optimised which will include android market for tablets, Notion Ink will be working there buts of to get the update out.
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As they said in an interview, they saw no need to pay to certify for market, when the market doesn't really have anything to offer tablets, but there will still be "sideloading"... until such time as it is worth it..
-CC

I anticipate that rooting the adam will be equivalent to the method done on the G-tab. As open as Rohan would like the ADAM to be, his partners and/or investors would definitely demand some sort of protection especially if it ships pre loaded with premier apps from various partners. It would kick ass if it was shipped with Aldiko premium, but i'm pretty sure I've read about talks of Kobo and NI partnering up with a launch app. Nonetheless, rooting of the adam will happen most likely before the second batch of shipments are deployed.
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Prema999 said:
http://notioninkhacks.com/index.php/2010/12/22/questions-answer-with-rohan-of-notion-ink-part-2/
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It will surely be rooted. After all, it's no longer illegal in the United States... it's only a matter of time once it gets into the hands of enough motivated people.
Sad that this is the position Notion Ink takes, though.

Isn't it possible to download the apps from the market on your phone and transfer them to the adam????
But market of no market. 2th pre-order I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Notion Ink Hacks will be working on trying to get recovery, root, market, and swype. If your a hacker and want to help stop on by. As you see my team and I will be contributing here as well. Working together and getting this stuff done quickly will give the Adam a solid foothold in the market place.
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Can't really transfer licenses for paid apps.
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Meego On Adam
Just putting it out there. I think Meego would be pretty cool to see on the Notion Ink Adam. I seen a custom ui from evolve another hidden manufacture of tablets and they seem to have done a great job with the ui. Check there site out evolve. com. au and go to the meego slate under products and tell me what you think. The site takes a bit to load so dont be impatient. =]

Its killing me waiting for my order to come...I cannot wait to see the development on this!
I would love to see the xbox 360 controller work with the adam. There are alot of cool games that I believe would be awesome with the use of a usb/wireless controller.
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Netflix on android

So when is netflix comin to Android? I mean its been months since the dumb post that they put on there blog. Early next year they said. Well that time is now and I'm still waiting. Now I have read all the comments left on that blog. Many sayin how the dmr can't be the problem that that is to easy of a problem to be the reason Android is left in the dust with movie streaming. And then I read post sayin that that is a huge problem and will take a long time to get worked out. Now I don't know any thing about dmr and programming so I don't know who to take sides with. But my real beef now with netflix is that its early next year and thet can't give us not 1 update. Most of the comments on the blog where customers just asking for a update. All we want is to not be left in the dark. And if netflix can't take the time to give us a stupid little update to show us that you do care about the people that pay for your BMW. That's jacked up. And they say that only newer phones will be compatible but by the time the app comes out our new phones are going to be outdated. It just the fact that netflix can't take the time to inform and reassure it customers is retarded and I am strongly considering leaving for that reason. Shoot I can watch about anything I want on Justin tv.
But dose any one other than me care or feel bothered by this?
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that was one of the reasons i sold my android phone(there were other reasons too)

cwalton4077 said:
So when is netflix comin to Android? I mean its been months since the dumb post that they put on there blog. Early next year they said. Well that time is now and I'm still waiting. Now I have read all the comments left on that blog. Many sayin how the dmr can't be the problem that that is to easy of a problem to be the reason Android is left in the dust with movie streaming. And then I read post sayin that that is a huge problem and will take a long time to get worked out. Now I don't know any thing about dmr and programming so I don't know who to take sides with. But my real beef now with netflix is that its early next year and thet can't give us not 1 update. Most of the comments on the blog where customers just asking for a update. All we want is to not be left in the dark. And if netflix can't take the time to give us a stupid little update to show us that you do care about the people that pay for your BMW. That's jacked up. And they say that only newer phones will be compatible but by the time the app comes out our new phones are going to be outdated. It just the fact that netflix can't take the time to inform and reassure it customers is retarded and I am strongly considering leaving for that reason. Shoot I can watch about anything I want on Justin tv.
But dose any one other than me care or feel bothered by this?
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it's all about the security, or lack there of on android. Netflix has to appease the movie companies that they have agreements with.

Exactly, in fact - I will go a step further and say that it seems very unlikely that it'll happen any time in the foreseeable future. The fact is, movie studios are very picky about content security *and* they are hesitant about mobile devices in general. A very open mobile platform with a large development community is not something the movie studios are likely to be huge fans of.
The only exception I could see is certain phones that are heavily customized such as HTCs and Samsungs getting Netflix as part of their custom software. And that would be a ways down the road. Yay for platform fragmentation. It's the double-edged sword of such an open platform. Open platforms get fragmented. Look at Linux itself on the desktop - fragmented beyond all belief. Which isn't necessarily bad. It's both it's best trait and it's worst.

netflix on android
Does any one know any type of hack or backwards way to view instant watch movies?

Likely not going to happen with the poor security.

I for one being a netflix user would love to see this app come to android. It would be one more reason to upgrade to a 4G phone.

I want netflix now
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i go with the others, Netflix will never be on Android.. i would like it to be, but.. it won't. i think Verizon has something similar to it now? i may be mistaken though

That would be cool.
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Ys if iphone 4g can have it android should!
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I feel like since Netflix has a five or six device cap as it is they should be able to detect if your account is using an android device and only allow one or two of those to be designated devices.

Netflix on android would be awesome
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I like using netflix on my old iphone 2g, but my evo has a 4.3 inch screen that just seems wasted unless I watch some netflix on it...

yeh it might take awhile before android gets netfllex.

Rumours are going on that Netflix is coming for android soon

B&N Nook Color 2.2 Update?

So where is the promised January/mid-February NC 2.2 update from B&N??? Here's what I found recently:
"B&N plans to update the OS sometime in 2011. Regarding applications, we are committed to the NOOKdeveloper program and on track to add apps to our store in early 2011, but do not have plans enable Android Marketplace at this time."

It was never promised. Just rumoured. And then pretty much debunked:
http://nookappreview.com/2010/12/31/nook-apps-might-arrive-in-march-2011-developer-mode-in-jan-2011/

Still sounds promising seeing how i'ts March already. But it looks like it's more of a refined update as opposed to a general android OS update. The inclusion of flash would be nice. And if they are in charge of making flash available then maybe we'll get a decent working version of one a little easier.

The current build just feels sluggish. Especially the browser. Hopefully they can rectify that in whatever updates they have brewing.
In general I think BN just needs to get the app store out but maybe they are waiting on actual developers for this? At the very least...Facebook, Twitter, instant messaging, e-mail, Youtube, etc. would be nice. Support for more types of video codecs as well as allowing side loaded content to be added to the home screen would help make those features actually useful. I think they really are a few steps away from the stock, unrooted OS being decent enough where some of us less adventurous people will be dissuaded from going through the trouble of rooting.
Web browsing is a lot worse than on my iPhone 4 at the moment. The video quality on m.youtube is a horrendous pixelated mess. No difference at all between HQ and Normal.

To watch YouTube in HD, dig around for and install "signed_YouTube.apk". I believe this is the gingerbread version and plays YouTube vids in HD on the nook properly
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henhowc said:
The current build just feels sluggish. Especially the browser. Hopefully they can rectify that in whatever updates they have brewing.
In general I think BN just needs to get the app store out but maybe they are waiting on actual developers for this? At the very least...Facebook, Twitter, instant messaging, e-mail, Youtube, etc. would be nice. Support for more types of video codecs as well as allowing side loaded content to be added to the home screen would help make those features actually useful. I think they really are a few steps away from the stock, unrooted OS being decent enough where some of us less adventurous people will be dissuaded from going through the trouble of rooting.
Web browsing is a lot worse than on my iPhone 4 at the moment. The video quality on m.youtube is a horrendous pixelated mess. No difference at all between HQ and Normal.
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I could see them waiting for more apps... its also possible their riding the hype and waiting for it to die down before releasing it.
However as I + others have said... theres NO REASON for B&N to update the nook. At least from a android firmware standpoint

Admiralvic said:
I could see them waiting for more apps... its also possible their riding the hype and waiting for it to die down before releasing it.
However as I + others have said... theres NO REASON for B&N to update the nook. At least from a android firmware standpoint
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According to a B&N employee, there will be an update to stock NC to Android 2.2 based firmware which will also support Flash, at the end of March.
Remember that this is third-hand, may be incorrect, and could be delayed even if it is correct.

I really wish there was going to 2.2 update.

ADude said:
According to a B&N employee, there will be an update to stock NC to Android 2.2 based firmware which will also support Flash, at the end of March.
Remember that this is third-hand, may be incorrect, and could be delayed even if it is correct.
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I heard the same thing from an employee except it was 2-3 weeks ago and the date they gave was the end of February.

Admiralvic said:
theres NO REASON for B&N to update the nook. At least from a android firmware standpoint
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That may not be true, it depends upon how "Enhanced NookBooks" will work, which according to their website are coming soon. Flash maybe?

I had not seen this thread and I just got back from BN. I showed the guy my rooted Nookand he was impressed.. although I dont think he liked my kindle app.
He did volunteer that there would be an update by the end of March. What was included .. he did not say.

Admiralvic said:
I could see them waiting for more apps... its also possible their riding the hype and waiting for it to die down before releasing it.
However as I + others have said... theres NO REASON for B&N to update the nook. At least from a android firmware standpoint
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We can hope and dream can we not?

If a B&N store employee is telling you when the update is coming they are talking out of their anus.
No company is going to give out any information like that to bottom level sales employees. When B&N settles on an official date they will at best give the employees a couple days warning.
Honestly we will probably know when its coming before the employees do.

notinterested said:
If a B&N store employee is telling you when the update is coming they are talking out of their anus.
No company is going to give out any information like that to bottom level sales employees. When B&N settles on an official date they will at best give the employees a couple days warning.
Honestly we will probably know when its coming before the employees do.
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I've seen some stores have specific Nook "experts" that just hang around the Nook kiosks all day long and they probably have more general knowledge about the product than say the cashiers or regular employees. I wouldn't say its impossible that an employee knows info that we don't. Or they could read forums like this too.

henhowc said:
I've seen some stores have specific Nook "experts" that just hang around the Nook kiosks all day long and they probably have more general knowledge about the product than say the cashiers or regular employees. I wouldn't say its impossible that an employee knows info that we don't. Or they could read forums like this too.
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Well you have to remember this wasnt the first time we went down this road. I remember when every employee was saying the app store + 2.2 would come out in January... then it was Feb, now its end of march... I wouldnt be shocked if these people are just relying on luck, and assuming things.
Not everyone, employees included know that theres android on the low... its always possible that they just think were on Nook firmware 2.1, and just say a date for the next update as its possible.
Logically speaking, if the nook was getting an upgrade... and the employees actually knew, and were telling it why wouldnt it get announced? With something like 2.2, its not like B&N is going to just release it without trying to nab sales.

A. Nonymous said:
I heard the same thing from an employee except it was 2-3 weeks ago and the date they gave was the end of February.
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I really respect delays in software releases.
This means that the managers are allowing the programmers to fix the bugs, instead of heeding the CEOs' usual call to "release it now regardless of whether it works right".
I am not referring to any particular company or CEO, but there is always pressure from above to release software before it is stable.
PS How do BN employees know ? Someone has to be doing Beta testing before a release to millions of customers. It is typical for large companies to have employees do Beta testing. It would not be unusual for those Beta testers to get an email with link to "release candidate for public release at the end of the month, so please confirm that you do not have problems with this release". Then when problems are confirmed, release slips to the following month, rinse and repeat.

Hello,
just wanted to share that just the other day, must have been thursday, A Nook rep at my local B&N store and i got to talking and he said that he had been told that 2.2 will be out this month! and that he was told that in January. Looks like we might be getting luck! Just gotta be patient. Always fun... lol

henhowc said:
I've seen some stores have specific Nook "experts" that just hang around the Nook kiosks all day long and they probably have more general knowledge about the product than say the cashiers or regular employees. I wouldn't say its impossible that an employee knows info that we don't. Or they could read forums like this too.
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I am a digital lead at a BN and I love this forum...

tranquilchao5 said:
I am a digital lead at a BN and I love this forum...
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Right.
Although it would be nice to have a B&N rep. mulling around the forum. After all, I think communites like this are best at making products better for everyone else. And forum reading typically are strongly tied and loyal to their device. They also are more likely to spread good PR if they are happy with their product and the company attached to it. Read; OG Droid compared to the Droid X fiasco. Ever wonder why they finally allowed an unlockable bootloader on the Xoom? Something caused them to backtrack a bit...even if we only represent a small percent of the consumer base.
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tranquilchao5 said:
I am a digital lead at a BN and I love this forum...
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Spill the beans!

No more unlocks?

I guess its good its now 'legal' to unlock our phones but not the tablets?
Congress making laws of nothing they know about... sounds sorta familiar..
How will this effect the xda community if at all?
Under cover cops trolling xda? haha
How will it even be enforced?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...ed-phone-unlocks-will-be-a-thing-of-the-past/
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Reading that made my brain hurt and one more reason to add to my mile long list I made a while back of why I will never buy anything but a Nexus again. (The Galaxy Tab was my last foray into getting robbed)

Yeah, good luck with them catching anyone unlocking their tablets unless they are on a data plan.
And since I can make phone calls with my N7, is it technically a phone????
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Good luck policing this one unless they start shipping them from the factory unable to unlock. Seriously these lawmakers can go eat a d1ck, all this bs they are doing is just in the name of money.
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Also wtf, " For example, an ebook reading device might be considered a “tablet,” as might a handheld video game device or a laptop computer." Can you be more broad when it comes to description? I guess you can't because then you would be Apple. :silly:
If a tablet has a 3g modem is it a phone then or a tablet? Have fun trying to classify these things, especially when tablets are just blown up phones with or without the modem. Our government is morons.

Google allows the unlocking of their devices, so you have nothing to worry about as long as you buy nexus. Even if you don't buy a nexus device, I don't see how the law could be properly enforced. I wouldn't worry.

I'll do what I want.
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JohnnyHempseed said:
Google allows the unlocking of their devices, so you have nothing to worry about as long as you buy nexus. Even if you don't but a nexus device, I don't see how the law could be properly enforced. I wouldn't worry.
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doesn't even have to be a nexus device, any android device is safe since it's open source from Google.
Plus unlike Apple, don't see Google suing anyone for unlocking or rooting their os.

Google allows us to unlock...pretty darn easily actually.

What's gonna happen when root methods are provided outside the US?
IMO the whole thing is stupid. I have paid for ALL my apps, and I refuse to use ANY Android device without root access. So why am I being punished?
I HATE ADS, and have no problem paying for apps to not have ads. However if a paid version isn't available, then I still want my ads blocked...
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dilldoe said:
doesn't even have to be a nexus device, any android device is safe since it's open source from Google.
Plus unlike Apple, don't see Google suing anyone for unlocking or rooting their os.
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Google encourages us to play with at least their nexus devices. That was the entire point of having the USB port on the Nexus Q.
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So many bigger issues Congress needs to be worried about than what people are doing with their electronic devices.
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So iphones are allowed to be jailbroken and the main reason users jailbrake them is so they can use pirate apps. Yep this makes sense.....
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Much ado about nothing.
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ccrows said:
What's gonna happen when root methods are provided outside the US?
IMO the whole thing is stupid. I have paid for ALL my apps, and I refuse to use ANY Android device without root access. So why am I being punished?
I HATE ADS, and have no problem paying for apps to not have ads. However if a paid version isn't available, then I still want my ads blocked...
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What about apps by developers from countries that don't have the luck to be included in the merchant account list? Their only way to monetize their hard work is ads and using their apps with ads blockers is not fair at all. If you hate ads that much, please stop using the apps that are supported by them.
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ccrows said:
What's gonna happen when root methods are provided outside the US?
IMO the whole thing is stupid. I have paid for ALL my apps, and I refuse to use ANY Android device without root access. So why am I being punished?
I HATE ADS, and have no problem paying for apps to not have ads. However if a paid version isn't available, then I still want my ads blocked...
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I agree with this.
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dparrothead1 said:
Yeah, good luck with them catching anyone unlocking their tablets unless they are on a data plan.
And since I can make phone calls with my N7, is it technically a phone????
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Yeah, since my Nexus 7 is wifi only, how does unlocking it violate carrier rights? It's not a phone, it's a wifi tablet. Unlocking and rooting gives me access to all the hardware and features of the software, which I have rights to as the licensee. If they don't want you to have access to the full ability of the OS, they should remove it. If it's there, then it's mine to use per the license.

icytrey said:
So many bigger issues Congress needs to be worried about than what people are doing with their electronic devices.
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Once those in power are ready to take over the world, they'll need more than just gun control laws to round up the masses for reeducation. Phone and tab modification should give them the reason to round up several more million citizens for reeducation.
Worry when the next Android release is called "Soma".
Now were did I place my tinfoil hat again?....

murray68w said:
I guess its good its now 'legal' to unlock our phones but not the tablets?
Congress making laws of nothing they know about... sounds sorta familiar..
How will this effect the xda community if at all?
Under cover cops trolling xda? haha
How will it even be enforced?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...ed-phone-unlocks-will-be-a-thing-of-the-past/
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I read thru all the below comments.. This new law does not make it legal to unlock your device. It puts the control into the hands of your devices carrier as to rather you can unlock it or not. Now the carriers all just need to do like at&t has been firm on.Just say NO unlocked devices allowed on there Network.. This is a step back word in my opinion. I hear about people all the time jail breaking there i phone or ipad to side load pirated apps. They say i tunes charge to much for them. But the android community STRONGLY screams to everyone to pay the developers for the apps. Android apps are reasonable priced as well. This is due to the developer having more control and giving less money to google.. I think this will be the way into the future.To make devices and phones even more disposable.. I so hope google stands up and puts this crap away.
If xda follows this new law. They will have to take down every hack for every tablet and get permission from phone carriers to post the ability to unlock and root phones on there networks.. NEXUS Phones tied to a carrier follows the same laws .
if i read incorrectly please explain to me..

erica_renee said:
I read thru all the below comments.. This new law does not make it legal to unlock your device. It puts the control into the hands of your devices carrier as to rather you can unlock it or not. Now the carriers all just need to do like at&t has been firm on.Just say NO unlocked devices allowed on there Network.. This is a step back word in my opinion. I hear about people all the time jail breaking there i phone or ipad to side load pirated apps. They say i tunes charge to much for them. But the android community STRONGLY screams to everyone to pay the developers for the apps. Android apps are reasonable priced as well. This is due to the developer having more control and giving less money to google.. I think this will be the way into the future.To make devices and phones even more disposable.. I so hope google stands up and puts this crap away.
If xda follows this new law. They will have to take down every hack for every tablet and get permission from phone carriers to post the ability to unlock and root phones on there networks.. NEXUS Phones tied to a carrier follows the same laws .
if i read incorrectly please explain to me..
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Not quite correct. This just means that carrier unlocking is no longer exempted from the DMCA. In other words, OEMs can sue folks that post a narrow scope of exploits. This pretty much is a moot point considering that the only OEM that was doing this was Apple and the Jesus Phone is no longer exclusive to big blue. As there never was an exemption specific to tablets, nothing there has changed. DMCA exemptions are reviewed and revised every three years.
There's a lot of hystronics and FUD going on about this, driven partly by a desire to generate traffic to certain sites I'm sure. In the end, it is just as I said before... much ado about nothing. The sky is not any closer to falling than it was twelve months ago.
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najaboy said:
Not quite correct. This just means that carrier unlocking is no longer exempted from the DMCA. In other words, OEMs can sue folks that post a narrow scope of exploits. This pretty much is a moot point considering that the only OEM that was doing this was Apple and the Jesus Phone is no longer exclusive to big blue. As there never was an exemption specific to tablets, nothing there has changed. DMCA exemptions are reviewed and revised every three years.
There's a lot of hystronics and FUD going on about this, driven partly by a desire to generate traffic to certain sites I'm sure. In the end, it is just as I said before... much ado about nothing. The sky is not any closer to falling than it was twelve months ago.
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Amen to that. The panic in threads like this...along with the unfounded rage... is astounding.

Chromecast would probably not be indie developer friendly

Koushik just posted this on his g+ page:
Heads up. Google's latest Chromecast update*intentionallybreaks AllCast. They disabled 'video_playback' support from the ChromeCast application.Given that this is the second time they've purposefully removed/disabled[1] the ability to play media from external sources, it confirms some of my suspicions that I have had about the Chromecast developer program:The policy seems to be a heavy handed approach, where only approved content will be played through the device. The Chromecast will probably not be indie developer friendly. The Google TV team is only prepared with media companies.I'd strongly suggest holding off on buying a Chromecast until we can see how Google chooses to move forward on third party applications. There are also other (open) platforms and stacks that one could buy/support as well. (LeapCast, NodeCast, etc)
Link: https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/ZeHgRXS6AZs
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That's really sad, but I'm happy I didn't bought my Chromecast yet.
I'll buy a Raspberry Pi, Roku or a good android usb stick instead.
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I have one. Back to Roku.
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We've known this from the beginning. And btw, it isn't that it is not indie developer friendly, it is that is not going to be hackable friendly. Google has to keep the device locked down if they want to big media companies to bring their content to it. That doesn't mean smaller companies can't develop for it. I don't see any reason Google will not approve of indie developer apps. It's just they aren't going to kill the product by making it completely open. Netflix and every other media company would leave in about a second if they did that.

bozzykid said:
We've known this from the beginning. And btw, it isn't that it is not indie developer friendly, it is that is not going to be hackable friendly. Google has to keep the device locked down if they want to big media companies to bring their content to it. That doesn't mean smaller companies can't develop for it. I don't see any reason Google will not approve of indie developer apps. It's just they aren't going to kill the product by making it completely open. Netflix and every other media company would leave in about a second if they did that.
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Why are you talking about hackable friendly?
Koushik didn't hack the device, he just released an app for the device. And he did it without using Chromecast SDK. So if what Koushik said is true then yes, it is not indie developer friendly.
If Google decide to don't make it open in order to keep big media companies supporting the device, I'm sure that lot of potential customers will decide to not buy the Chromecast.
Let's see what happens.
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titooo7 said:
Why are you talking about hackable friendly?
Koushik didn't hack the device, he just released an app for the device.
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That isn't true. He used a hack to get around the whitelist app restrictions. He wasn't using the API in a standard way. He's making a lot of assumptions based on Google closing 2 holes in the latest update. I see no reason Google will disallow apps that work using the official API when it is final.
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titooo7 said:
If Google decide to don't make it open in order to keep big media companies supporting the device, I'm sure that lot of potential customers will decide to not buy the Chromecast.
Let's see what happens.
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I doubt that is true. Maybe some geeks around here. But not the general public. They will buy it to stream Netflix, Pandora, etc from their phone. There aren't many people actually wanting to stream downloaded movies from their phone/tablet. That is not the target audience buying it at Best Buy.

bozzykid said:
I doubt that is true. Maybe some geeks around here. But not the general public. They will buy it to stream Netflix, Pandora, etc from their phone. There aren't many people actually wanting to stream downloaded movies from their phone/tablet. That is not the target audience buying it at Best Buy.
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This is definitely one of the reasons i bought it. At least for a future possibility anyway.
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