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Hi guys, does ant one know what the 4X maximum possible data speeds are? Looking at the Optimus 4X phone over the Optimus G because it uses NVIDIA Tegra chip-set. From what I hear LTE is getting averages of 30-40mps and if the 4X can match that I see no reason not to get it. Does 4X support ATT or T-Mobile network?
Also how does the 4X compare to the G? Any one have any first hand experience with the two? Any recommendations between the two?
I don't know about network but in performance the optimus G is much faster . because its CPU support dual channels but tegra 3 has one channel .
And the optimus G has 2GB ram , but Optimus 4x has 1GB
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Well I noticed all Tegra chip-sets have a max of 1gb ram and I would imagine that has to do with the CPU architecture... Could be that the reserve power saving CPU can only support 1 channel so they made the entire CPU support 1 channel so when power saving is on people aren't pissed off that their only using half their ram lol. From what I can tell this phone run's games pretty well and that's what I like, also I hear Tegra does a few things better than Omap such as SHA decryption. Its a tough choice between 4x and One x +. I hear for some reason HTC doesn't have One X + set up to use HDMI as an alternate screen like the Optimus and Galaxy X3 witch is a little annoying... I'm not sure if custom ROM would solve this or if hardware is in-capable. Another thing between these phones is that the 4x still looke like a phone where as HTC decided to give One X + a very odd shape and look and refuses to switch to IPS display's. Though I noticed the One X + has a better camera I'm wondering why no android or window phone can top an iPhones camera... Thx for the info about 4x and G i will definitely take that into consideration.
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Hi guys, does ant one know what the 4X maximum possible data speeds are? Looking at the Optimus 4X phone over the Optimus G because it uses NVIDIA Tegra chip-set. From what I hear LTE is getting averages of 30-40mps and if the 4X can match that I see no reason not to get it. Does 4X support ATT or T-Mobile network?
Also how does the 4X compare to the G? Any one have any first hand experience with the two? Any recommendations between the two?
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G using S4 Pro APQ8064 28nm cpu, this is better than O4X Tegra 3 40nm cpu, and also G have 2G RAM, Corning Gorilla Glass 2.
bout 4G cant give u any suggest, cause my place not yet got this service.
if ur burget enough to get G, it's better for choice.
AW: [Q] Optimus G or Optimus 4X?
Advantage of 4X is the SD slot. And of course the much lower price...
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Everything the optimus G can do the 4x is capable of more less
Don't forget the camera too , I think Optimus G has better camera that don't have the low light problem of 4x 1
Optimus G has glass on back side also, which makes the device very stylish and attractive. However, that adds to the risk of the back glass cracking due to temperature changes as reported on the G forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021651). You won't have such a risk with 4X.
The battery of Optimus G is locked and not accessible, no SD card slot (as mentioned above) are other reasons against G.
That said, I am interested to buy a G when it becomes available in India (hopefully sometime this month).
guys i don't know what to do i've just seen the live presentation of moto g... and damn, 199usd for a quadcore s400 with 16gb...
should i have to wait for the (maybe) coming update, or is it better to sell the razr i for 250$ and get this new phone?
i know the lack of camera and body materials, or memory expandibility (actually have a 8gb microsd, so that's not a problem for me...)
so, please, tell me all of your opinion... with pros and cons in your opinion. thanks in advance!
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guys i don't know what to do i've just seen the live presentation of moto g... and damn, 199usd for a quadcore s400 with 16gb...
should i have to wait for the (maybe) coming update, or is it better to sell the razr i for 250$ and get this new phone?
i know the lack of camera and body materials, or memory expandibility (actually have a 8gb microsd, so that's not a problem for me...)
so, please, tell me all of your opinion... with pros and cons in your opinion. thanks in advance!
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g is bigger so razr i is my choice.
I still prefer my Razr I, G doesn't have NFC and I love my Intel CPU
Also the I is more edge2edge than the G and I like the material of the I
Razr i won't get kitkat, in my honest opinion. If that's the only thing keeping you from selling, I would go ahead and sell
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well... i also love the premium materials... and the compact size, but, i really would like to have 4.4 for the optimizations it brings... and the lack of custom roms cause of x86 arch... i'm praying for seeing that "it'll get 4.4 soon" on the official motorola page
AFAIK the camera is better on Razr over that of the G and whilst an update to the phone would be nice I'm ok with the features it has for what I bought it for. Overall the razr i is still a great phone for me and I would buy it over the G version.
You should take a closer look to their specs. Bear in mind that I don't know how much Razr i costs in your country new or used...
Razr i / Moto G
CPU - Intel Atom Z2480 x86 2Ghz x1 (HyperThreading) / Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 1,2Ghz x4
GPU - Power VR SGX540 @ 400Mhz 6.2GFLOPS / Adreno 305 19.2GFLOPS
RAM - 1GB LPDDR2 @ 800Mhz / 1GB LPDDR2 @ 533Mhz (supposed)
ROM - 8GB / 8GB or 16GB
Battery - 2000mAh / 2070mAh
System - Android on x86 4.0.4 update to 4.1.2 / Android on ARM 4.3
Screen - 4.3" SuperAMOLED 540x960 256ppi GG2 / 4.5" LCD GorillaGlass3 720x1280 329ppi
Camera - 8mpx autofocus LED flash 1080p 30fps video / 5mpx autofocus LED flash 720p 30fps video
SecCam - 0.3mpx 640x480 30fps video / 1.3mpx unknown video recording resolution
Connect - NFC, Bluetooth 4.0, WiFi N, HSPA+, GPS / Bluetooth 4.0, WiFi N, GPS, HSPA+
SIze - H>122.43mm W>60.71mm D>8.38mm - 126 g / H>129.9mm W>65.9mm D>11.6 mm - 143 g
As you may see here, the Razr i is quite smaller and also features a better display, with a lower resolution. Whether this resolution changes anything or not is down to the use you will give to your phone. The Razr i should have a marginally better battery life due to the type of screen, lower resolution and same battery capacity. Also the Razr has better connectivity overall, supporting NFC and has a marginally better camera, that will appeal to some people. The last advantage for the Razr is the memory bandwith, being an x86 device with an Atom processor, I have seen that the ram speed is about 25% faster than the GS3 which had quite a good RAM. However, the Moto G wins hands down on the CPU and GPU departure. In contrast, it has to power up quite a few more pixels and this narrows down the advantage. You may then choose your phone based on this, and on your likings/kind of usage obviously.
1. Is micro SD support a must?
2. Do you care for Kitkat? Or lots of custom rom options? (pretty sure the G will get plenty of them)
3. Is nfc a big deal for you?
4. Do you care about screen resolution?
I'm deciding between these two phones now as well, and this was the best I could come up with for deciding. If you can answer them you'll know which one you want. Good luck!
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1. Is micro SD support a must?
2. Do you care for Kitkat? Or lots of custom rom options? (pretty sure the G will get plenty of them)
3. Is nfc a big deal for you?
4. Do you care about screen resolution?
I'm deciding between these two phones now as well, and this was the best I could come up with for deciding. If you can answer them you'll know which one you want. Good luck!
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I would add these:
5. Do you need more gaming performance? (buy the G)
6. Do you want a thinner device? (buy the Razr i)
7. Do you want a phone mid-high end design or a low-mid end(moto G)?
I should still advice you that if you are not are frequent user of demanding games, reading, or cpu intensive tasks on android, you will be more than satisfied with the Razr i. If you are more of a power user and dont care much about the features you should buy the Moto G. If you don't like any of the two buy the Nexus 5...
Thanks to all of you guys. I think to take with me the RAZR for the premium feels it gives to me even if less powerful. The only thing I could regret is the fact it will not get Kk.. but. I hope in you modders
Only advantage RazrI has to MotoG is quality and size, screen quality, camera, speaker should be equal, performance, devs and moto support should be better on MotoG.
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I have the same dilemma, I have a Moto G but not used yet as I'm waiting for a screen protector. I was about to get a Razr I but for £50 cheaper the Moto G made more sense. The Razr I i still £150 at the moment, maybe if it drops a little lower I will take one.
EDIT: I bought both a Moto G 8Gb and a Razr I, reason being my sister also wanted a new phone so whichever I didn't want she would take. The issue with Three stores in the UK is that the phone is locked into some protective casing in the shop so you can't hold them, and they don't allow opening one up unless you want to buy it, so it's difficult to compare them in the shops.
However, as soon as you hold both in your hand the Razr I has a much more premium feel, it's probably the nicest phone I have ever handled (and that includes an iPhone 5). IMO the iPhone 5 is a perfect size and weight and this is pretty much the same but without IOS (which is a benefit!).
I don't see much difference in the screen at all in terms of size and quality. The Razr I feels quicker though as you scroll through menus and open up apps etc. Plus the SD card slot is a nice addition (although not one of my requirements).
Is it worth an extra £50/33% premium on top of the Moto G? I guess that depends on what you will use it for. If you're not going to use much storage and are a light user then the Moto G is the one to go for, especially with a guaranteed 4.4 update to Android. If you can spend the extra then get the Razr I it's a bargain for what it is.
I have both at the moment and believe me it's a tough question for sure. I must say one handed use of RAZR i is a big plus.
Razr I advantages :
Better camera
Micro-sd support up to 64gb
One handed use
Premium quality
Better and faster internet experience
Moto G advantages
Better display
Better battery ( just a little )
Better front cam
Current Android version, update to Lollipop
Better gaming experience
I will wait for 4.4.2 on RAZR i to make a better judgement. btw moto g gets 17500 while razr i gets 17000 antutu points. ( the lower resolution on razr i helps to its inferiror gpu compared to Adreno 305 with 720p on moto g )
The million dollar question... Which phone is better and why?
Right now I have the chance to buy the Moto G. I don't know how much difference make a 1.5 dual core VS a 1.2 quad core because the GPU also takes part on this. I haven't had the chance to test the phone, so I don't know. Also the battery is better on the G, and that is important to me.
So.. What do you think?
I just got the Moto G but can't use it until I get it unlocked. Here's what I see as the pros and cons:
Moto G pros:
- quad core at 1.2 will be faster than 1.4 dual core when running an optimized ROM.
- nice IPS screen.
- official 4.3 support and 4.4 in the near future.
- cheap with no contract.
- unlock for bootloader direct from Motorola.
Moto G cons:
- only 8 GB or 16 GB of storage, but not all of it is available for user storage.
- no micro SD slot.
- no charger included in the box.
- only 8 GB carrier locked version is available in Canada.
- phone is only sold with a carrier lock, even when bought without a contract in Canada.
Atrix HD pros:
- beautiful screen and build quality
- expandable storage.
- great battery life with the right rom.
- works on all US and Canadian carriers;
- lots of custom ROMs.
Atrix HD cons:
- non-removable battery.
- no official ROMs after 4.1.2 in Canada.
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Atrix HD cons:
- non-removable battery.
- no official ROMs after 4.1.2 in Canada.
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Our Atrix HD's battery is easy enough to remove and replace if necessary, there are plenty of tutorials in the forums and youtube that show you how to do it with ease.
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Our Atrix HD's battery is easy enough to remove and replace if necessary, there are plenty of tutorials in the forums and youtube that show you how to do it with ease.
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Thanks for the information. My battery is working perfectly with holo but I am sure it will eventually need replacement.
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Hi all!!
A local website is offering Atrix HD MB886 and Moto G (16GB) for exactly the same price here. Both are BNIB with 7 days return policy and 2 years warranty.
So I am really confused which one to buy. If any of you have tested or bought both.. how do they compare and which one would you recommend?
For me.
Moto G +ve's:
NEW!
16GB internal mem
KK 4.4.2 out of box
great battery
IPS LCD
changeable covers
FM radio
USB host
GLONASS
Moto G -ve's:
No 4G (LTE)
only 5MP cam
battery is fixed
NO SD card
AHD +ve's:
4G LTE (future proof) - even though we don't have this yet but the contracts are sold and will get 4G rolling out next year in Pakistan
8MP cam
FHD video recording
HDMI
SD card (again.. future proof)
replaceable batt (so can get a bigger one)
AHD -ve's:
No GLONASS
TFT LCD (not IPS)
smaller batt
no FM radio (can i use an app like spirit FM?)
no USB host??? (does it have this?)
The place where I'm really really confused is the CPU/GPU.
How does MSM8960 (dual core Krait) stack up against the quad core MSM8226????
How much of a difference is there between Adreno 305 and Adreno 225?? (i'm a bit of a mobile gamer )
Those of you who have experience with these. How do they compare?? I heard people who got Moto G said they felt its faster than AHD ever performed. But I guess that could be down to stock Android on Moto G outperforming MotoBlur... or is the hardware on Moto G really better??
Which has the better and more durable hardware?
Many thanks in advance... Cheers!!
P.s. I have an HTC Desire Z with 4.4.2 at the moment.. so any of these will be a step up for me.. but I want the best of these as they fall exactly within my budget.
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Hi all!!
A local website is offering Atrix HD MB886 and Moto G (16GB) for exactly the same price here. Both are BNIB with 7 days return policy and 2 years warranty.
So I am really confused which one to buy. If any of you have tested or bought both.. how do they compare and which one would you recommend?
For me.
Moto G +ve's:
NEW!
16GB internal mem
KK 4.4.2 out of box
great battery
IPS LCD
changeable covers
FM radio
USB host
GLONASS
Moto G -ve's:
No 4G (LTE)
only 5MP cam
battery is fixed
NO SD card
AHD +ve's:
4G LTE (future proof) - even though we don't have this yet but the contracts are sold and will get 4G rolling out next year in Pakistan
8MP cam
FHD video recording
HDMI
SD card (again.. future proof)
replaceable batt (so can get a bigger one)
AHD -ve's:
No GLONASS
TFT LCD (not IPS)
smaller batt
no FM radio (can i use an app like spirit FM?)
no USB host??? (does it have this?)
The place where I'm really really confused is the CPU/GPU.
How does MSM8960 (dual core Krait) stack up against the quad core MSM8226????
How much of a difference is there between Adreno 305 and Adreno 225?? (i'm a bit of a mobile gamer )
Those of you who have experience with these. How do they compare?? I heard people who got Moto G said they felt its faster than AHD ever performed. But I guess that could be down to stock Android on Moto G outperforming MotoBlur... or is the hardware on Moto G really better??
Which has the better and more durable hardware?
Many thanks in advance... Cheers!!
P.s. I have an HTC Desire Z with 4.4.2 at the moment.. so any of these will be a step up for me.. but I want the best of these as they fall exactly within my budget.
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Atrix HD Screen is one of the best I have ever seen.
I can play games without lag on atrix HD.
What do you mean by GLONASS?
Yes I miss FM Radio.
We have hdmi along with usb.
Best part is the build quality. I have dropped it a hundred times but still its functional, If it would have been a samsung then I might have lost many phones till day.
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Atrix HD Screen is one of the best I have ever seen.
I can play games without lag on atrix HD.
What do you mean by GLONASS?
Yes I miss FM Radio.
We have hdmi along with usb.
Best part is the build quality. I have dropped it a hundred times but still its functional, If it would have been a samsung then I might have lost many phones till day.
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Thanks for the fast reply...
GLONASS is Russia's satellite nav system like GPS. Having GLONASS especially in EU and Asia is a huge advantage as it's more accurate and Moto G has both so combined you get pin-point accuracy.
Glad to read about the build quality.
Still.. how does it stack up against Moto G's CPU/GPU??
4G is not a biggie for me but its better to have it than not. Also 16GB is probably okay for me as I have 8GB now but you never know)))
You said it has USB.. does it have USB hosting? (the feature where you can connect other USB devices to the phone to transfer data directly like using pen drive with your computer)
Thanks again!!
EDIT: Ok... so I just read that you can make Atrix a USB host using a software fix and it does support GLONASS.. also read (on qualcomm's site) that Adreno 305 offer's upto 50% faster graphics than Adreno 220 (which I'm guessing is closer to Adreno 225 on Moto G).. so as a gamer I'm also decided on AHD.. plus there are rumours of AHD getting ota KK 4.4.2 soon... just need confirmation of how the dual core CPU performs vs Moto G's quad core... and I'll just get one
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Thanks for the fast reply...
GLONASS is Russia's satellite nav system like GPS. Having GLONASS especially in EU and Asia is a huge advantage as it's more accurate and Moto G has both so combined you get pin-point accuracy.
Glad to read about the build quality.
Still.. how does it stack up against Moto G's CPU/GPU??
4G is not a biggie for me but its better to have it than not. Also 16GB is probably okay for me as I have 8GB now but you never know)))
You said it has USB.. does it have USB hosting? (the feature where you can connect other USB devices to the phone to transfer data directly like using pen drive with your computer)
Thanks again!!
EDIT: Ok... so I just read that you can make Atrix a USB host using a software fix and it does support GLONASS.. also read (on qualcomm's site) that Adreno 305 offer's upto 50% faster graphics than Adreno 220 (which I'm guessing is closer to Adreno 225 on Moto G).. so as a gamer I'm also decided on AHD.. plus there are rumours of AHD getting ota KK 4.4.2 soon... just need confirmation of how the dual core CPU performs vs Moto G's quad core... and I'll just get one
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I have usb OTG (or host) out of the box with cyanogenmod 11, at least i've tried a wireless keyboard and mice. Haven't tried it with stock roms.
The HDMI is pretty nice too 1280x720, connect to your tv, plug some controller via USB OTG and you got mobile gaming rig lol. 16GB (with maybe 12 available to user?) i find that to be not quite enough at all, specially for me that i use google play music and cache my music on the external sd.
Check out the battery mod thread, super easy not too expensive and you'll get very nice battery life (2+ days on with moderate usage and no battery eating ****ty apps).
AHD SHOULD be getting official KK according to "official" sources, tho not too soon maybe.
Oh and the AHD camera is crap tho, only way to get decent pics is plain daylight or very bright ilumination during the night.
Shouldn't there be cheaper used AHDs out there by now? Could probably get a cheap used AHD in good condition, put CM11 on it, do the battery mod and boom!
Where can I find a link for Glonass apk?
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Where can I find a link for Glonass apk?
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I don't think you need an apk to turn it on.. just look in settings...
http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/technologies/glonass/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smartphones_using_GLONASS_Navigation#Motorola
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gB9pXInwh3k
I think you can get an app to test the A-GPS and GLONASS performance...
There are a few options
This app: http://droid-games.com/en/Motorola_ATRIX_HD/android_programs/navigation/88-gps-test-plus-121.html
Or maybe this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cochibo.gpsstatus
Hope this helps! :highfive:
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I have usb OTG (or host) out of the box with cyanogenmod 11, at least i've tried a wireless keyboard and mice. Haven't tried it with stock roms.
The HDMI is pretty nice too 1280x720, connect to your tv, plug some controller via USB OTG and you got mobile gaming rig lol. 16GB (with maybe 12 available to user?) i find that to be not quite enough at all, specially for me that i use google play music and cache my music on the external sd.
Check out the battery mod thread, super easy not too expensive and you'll get very nice battery life (2+ days on with moderate usage and no battery eating ****ty apps).
AHD SHOULD be getting official KK according to "official" sources, tho not too soon maybe.
Oh and the AHD camera is crap tho, only way to get decent pics is plain daylight or very bright ilumination during the night.
Shouldn't there be cheaper used AHDs out there by now? Could probably get a cheap used AHD in good condition, put CM11 on it, do the battery mod and boom!
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I'm more or less set on Atrix HD over Moto G.. I read several reviews and benchmark/test reports.. in most of mobile reviews Moto G is rated higher than AHD.. but in benchmarks the story is opposite.. Moto G's MSM8226 is slower than AHD's MSM8960 (notebookcheck.net).. also Adreno 225 on AHD is better and faster than Moto G's Adreno 305 (notebookcheck and wikipedia).. I wonder why Moto G is rated better than? Price, battery and stock 4.4.2??
You said the cam is cr**? its not a biggie for me personally as I use the came occasionally but maybe I'll have to download a cam app to see if it improves the quality.. I think most of the features in Moto G's cam like touch focus, hdr and panorama are due to stock kitkat.. I think they can be easily added.. but I could be wrong
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I don't think you need an apk to turn it on.. just look in settings...
http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/technologies/glonass/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smartphones_using_GLONASS_Navigation#Motorola
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gB9pXInwh3k
I think you can get an app to test the A-GPS and GLONASS performance...
There are a few options
This app: http://droid-games.com/en/Motorola_ATRIX_HD/android_programs/navigation/88-gps-test-plus-121.html
Or maybe this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cochibo.gpsstatus
Hope this helps! :highfive:
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I'm more or less set on Atrix HD over Moto G.. I read several reviews and benchmark/test reports.. in most of mobile reviews Moto G is rated higher than AHD.. but in benchmarks the story is opposite.. Moto G's MSM8226 is slower than AHD's MSM8960 (notebookcheck.net).. also Adreno 225 on AHD is better and faster than Moto G's Adreno 305 (notebookcheck and wikipedia).. I wonder why Moto G is rated better than? Price, battery and stock 4.4.2??
You said the cam is cr**? its not a biggie for me personally as I use the came occasionally but maybe I'll have to download a cam app to see if it improves the quality.. I think most of the features in Moto G's cam like touch focus, hdr and panorama are due to stock kitkat.. I think they can be easily added.. but I could be wrong
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I've tried focal, google camera, other razr cameras, you name it. The camera hardware is just not so good, and prety bad off-stock.
jaweinre said:
I've tried focal, google camera, other razr cameras, you name it. The camera hardware is just not so good, and prety bad off-stock.
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Placed an order for AHD on ebay yesterday... hopefully I'll have it soon :victory:
I read Moto G's cam is even worse but maybe it was a personal opinion but some say so.... also there are a lot of 8MP cams which are even worse like on Lumia's.. plus I have a 5MP cam on my HTC DZ right now so I think 8MP will be a step up either way.. I won't get a EB40 for the time being.. will see if EB20 is enough for how I use the phone.. If I feel the need.. I'll get the EB40..
Thanks everyone...
audit13 said:
Atrix HD pros:
- great battery life with the right rom.
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So which rom do you recommend for the best battery life with eb20 stock phone battery? Sorry for bumping up an old thread
Outlaw92 said:
So which rom do you recommend for the best battery life with eb20 stock phone battery? Sorry for bumping up an old thread
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Everyone runs different apps and services so it's hard to tell without testing yourself. IMO, you should try a "slim" ROM. One that doesn't have a ton of features and advertises being light on resources. Also avoid using a custom kernel to overclock your processor (duh).
The next option you should consider the eb40 battery upgrade so you won't have to worry about your battery as much. I swapped mine as soon as I bought this phone and I've been very happy with the battery life (it should have been standard with this phone). Happy flashing![emoji4]
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Everyone runs different apps and services so it's hard to tell without testing yourself. IMO, you should try a "slim" ROM. One that doesn't have a ton of features and advertises being light on resources. Also avoid using a custom kernel to overclock your processor (duh).
The next option you should consider the eb40 battery upgrade so you won't have to worry about your battery as much. I swapped mine as soon as I bought this phone and I've been very happy with the battery life (it should have been standard with this phone). Happy flashing![emoji4]
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Thanks for ur reply. And dude, where I come from, if I put in couple of more bucks into this phone by buying another battery and then taking into account all the money I spent on this device which includes the price of the phone itself, I could easily get a nexus 4 or LG optimus G in that whole price. So I just bought this phone for time pass. I'll upgrade sooner so I want to have short and quality time with this device.
Use holoblur (jb rom) for the best battery life. Load the pure performance x on it and it should be running much smoother.
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pijes said:
Use holoblur (jb rom) for the best battery life. Load the pure performance x on it and it should be running much smoother.
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Thanks, but its not compatible with Philz recovery. I tried to flash it but it gives status 7 error.
Outlaw92 said:
Thanks, but its not compatible with Philz recovery. I tried to flash it but it gives status 7 error.
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Uncheck the option about allowing old update binary. Then try again. I just flashed it and am posting from it.
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bmatney said:
Uncheck the option about allowing old update binary. Then try again. I just flashed it and am posting from it.
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Thanks, that worked.
OK so an update I finally got my AHD a while back and after unlocking, rooting and all the usual stuff I am shocked to see that there is NO way I can transfer app data to SD card...
My 4 years old HTC Desire Z gave me that option natively with ANY AND ALL ROM's I used... even the ones based on JB and KK.. I am now using the official CM 10.1.3 ROM on my AHD.. I used the Andromadus nightly build based on the same CM 10.1.3 and while that nightly supported moving app data to SD through settings->apps.. the official CM10.1.3 on AHD does not... why???
Is there a ROM that supports this natively so I can install as many apps as I want without worrying about this serious limitation.
Do you think motorola will upgrade the present X8 chip with 2 krait 300 cores to a new X8 chip with krait 400 cores? Snapdragon 800 already has a low power always listening core in it right? wonder whats in store for summer
eeshlikhith said:
Do you think motorola will upgrade the present X8 chip with 2 krait 300 cores to a new X8 chip with krait 400 cores? Snapdragon 800 already has a low power always listening core in it right? wonder whats in store for summer
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Who knows, but we should definitely see the core upgrade.
Moto X successor is still slated for late summer release. So it could be as late as August. By that time we will have Snapdragon 610 and 615 in market and those make perfect sense for new Moto X. Still not the high end for that time, but plenty of oomph while consuming less power and significant upgrade over current MSM8960DT.
Haven't heard of the 610 and 615. Thanks
The new Moto X should improve very nicely over the current.
I'm curious to see what new clever way Motorola will use the new tech.
I'm always for 'smarter' technology over more 'powerful' technology
roweboat56 said:
I'm curious to see what new clever way Motorola will use the new tech.
I'm always for 'smarter' technology over more 'powerful' technology
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I remember Dennis Woodside saying the next generation Touchless control wont require you to speak the command phrase first.
Current phrase is too long. With the android wear, we will be saying "OK Google" all the time. Then to say "OK Google now" for phone will be little odd. They can simply go for "Moto" or " Hey Moto". No phrase is not ideal. You don't want your phone to trigger touches control all the time.
From my Moto X, in your face!
If they keep with the theme of last year the x8 will be quietly upgraded and they will add new one useful features. Maybe slightly faster but still dual core. I would love for some upgrades on the rest of the phone. 1080p but still 4.7" display, better camera, wireless charging, more customizations?
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Better yet, a personalized command of your choice
For android wear you don't always have to say okay google now. In the video the guy in the train simply says "Reply" which is cool. I'd love to see that translated to the X. I wish Motorola has an X series which would keep the 4.7 size and some other series for other sizes all while maintaining the same specs in all series except the G.
The problem with a 1080p screen is eats more battery without much if any real increase in picture screen is to small.
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If they keep with the theme of last year the x8 will be quietly upgraded and they will add new one useful features. Maybe slightly faster but still dual core. I would love for some upgrades on the rest of the phone. 1080p but still 4.7" display, better camera, wireless charging, more customizations?
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The problem with a 1080p screen is eats more battery without much if any real increase in picture screen is to small.
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while 1080p does eat some battery up, there have now been advancements made in the newer 801 chipsets in regards to battery life. it would be great if MotoX 2 could get a dualcore variant of that, while also beefing the battery up to maybe 2600maH while retaining the same 4.7" screen. i'd also like to see a better camera for low light shots. if these were the upgrades, while also adding more useful features to the phone, i'd be sold day1.
i feel fairly confident that the screen size of the device will stay small. to most, that's one of the selling points of the MotoX.
I would also like an improved battery. Maybe next phone for me will be back to the Maxx. My fiancee is using my old RAZR maxx and I miss the crazy battery life she gets. The new maxx was just priced out of my reach so hopefully moto x 2 can bridge nicely.
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I am not really interested in tegra stuff but the 64bit dual core Denver might be a beast. I really hope more OEM's pull their heads out of their asses and go back to beefier dual cores rather than forcing quad on us. Heck, there's very few games that take full advantage of quad and I bet it's mostly tegea optimized games. Other benefits of going back to dual core besides pure power draw of cores themselves are using the spacing for bigger channels, faster ram, more ultra low voltage co processors, or dsp's/multi dsp's which ios and android still aren't taking full advantage of. What would be really awesome is if motorola comes out with something to compete with note3. Large screen with stylus, swappable battery, 64bit dual core, Kepler k1 or adreno 420, micro SD, heck two micro SD slots while I am dreaming, wireless charging, software nav buttons and Moto's legendary reception.
sent from my sm-9005.
I don't care what processors they use, like the Nexus devices need to do, put a BIGGER battery.
but I'm willing to bet some kind of S800 dual core variant.
I'm guessing it'll be a 5 inch FHD screen, quad core, and improved camera. The Moto X was crucified for its mid-range specs, despite calling itself a flagship phone, thus it won't be able to withstand another such release.
While many of the thoughts in this thread are correct, you have to keep in mind that the general consumer is a slave to the specs marketing game and that Motorola is struggling just to survive.
I'm not sure if I agree with that. The average techy may be obsessed with specs, but the average consumer probably buys based on price and marketing. They want a phone from a name they trust and something they can relate to. Samsung has this down. Motorola did step up their marketing, but they missed the mark. They should have played up their history.
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I'm not sure if I agree with that. The average techy may be obsessed with specs, but the average consumer probably buys based on price and marketing. They want a phone from a name they trust and something they can relate to. Samsung has this down. Motorola did step up their marketing, but they missed the mark. They should have played up their history.
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In the world of android, you need specs and/ price on your site to effectively market the phone.
If your phone is proceed like a high end phone, it better have high end specifications. Otherwise no matter how cool the phone is, how well it performs, it is difficult to market it.
See how many dumb @$$ reviews are there on popular shopping portals complaining about dual core CPU of Moto X.
Moto G is on the other hand received overwhelmingly positive reviews on same sites due to it's price and praises for its quad core CPU.
Hell there are multiple people complaining about moto x not being value for money when compared to "Quad core" Moto G..
Lot of techies who understood the potential of Moto X got it. Not masses.
When it comes to android, sadly average consumer does care about the specs.
Bit that mentality does mean that moto x owners have rather exclusive phone
From my Moto X, in your face!
I don't know. Most non-techy people I talk to never mention specs. They just want a "deal" on the newest Samsung phones. Because they don't want an apple phone and Samsung has marketed themselves as the anti-iphone. Just like the original Droid which had much success.
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Funkym0nkey said:
In the world of android, you need specs and/ price on your site to effectively market the phone.
If your phone is proceed like a high end phone, it better have high end specifications. Otherwise no matter how cool the phone is, how well it performs, it is difficult to market it.
See how many dumb @$$ reviews are there on popular shopping portals complaining about dual core CPU of Moto X.
Moto G is on the other hand received overwhelmingly positive reviews on same sites due to it's price and praises for its quad core CPU.
Hell there are multiple people complaining about moto x not being value for money when compared to "Quad core" Moto G..
Lot of techies who understood the potential of Moto X got it. Not masses.
When it comes to android, sadly average consumer does care about the specs.
Bit that mentality does mean that moto x owners have rather exclusive phone
From my Moto X, in your face!
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I love the X as I do my favorite shaving razor the Bic Metal. These are still available in Europe & on Amazon. They lossed market share for the same reason-humble appearance.
Hi
am looking to change out my Razri which is showing some wear and tear for a moto G 3rd gen
Have been waiting for Motorola to release a compact phone (4.5 inch) successor to the Razri but nothing appears in the pipeline as yet
'Androidinsanity' had a thread last year comparing the Razri to the moto G 2nd gen and the consensus appeared to be that the Razri still edged it
Does the same hold against the 3rd gen Moto G?
any thoughts appreciated
the Moto G is Bigger, has slower cores, but 4 of them, same 1gb RAM, thicker, not as nice to look at (IMHO) - I'm sticking to the Razr I for now, as long as "new" battery settles down - or I can score a good deal on a Z3 Compact - which is certainly better
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the Moto G is Bigger, has slower cores, but 4 of them, same 1gb RAM, thicker, not as nice to look at (IMHO) - I'm sticking to the Razr I for now, as long as "new" battery settles down - or I can score a good deal on a Z3 Compact - which is certainly better
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Thanks for comments - i agree the look and smaller form factor are better with the Razri
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Thanks for comments - i agree the look and smaller form factor are better with the Razri
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Moto G 3° Gen.. is a very great phone...always updated...very smooth,battery good, nice shots on camera
Moto G 3th Gen is superior. It has Android 5.0+ and maybe will have 6.0.
The problem I see on Razr I is the fact that the architecture is x86. With ART, the program have to be prepared to be converted to ART, making the upgrade for Lollipop difficult. The phone is great, specially if you are using Hazou's CM11. It runs smooth, but if you have too much processes at time, it will stuck, unlike MotoG.
Hope this explanation help you in your decision.
And sorry for mistakes in english.
You can see the Zenfone 2 32GB, with 4GB RAM. I have it, and the performance is overkill (I use the Atom Z3580 2.3GHz processor @1.25GHz to save some battery with no lags). It have stock Android 5.0 and CM12.1 (Android 5.1.1) under development, and has Android M upgrade confirmed.
Moto G 3rd Gen is powered by a Snapdragon 410 (four Cortex A53) clocked at 1.4GHz. I have a smiliar phone, Moto E 2015. The UI is snappy, but when I need more power, the Snapdragon suffer. AND, before all, most Moto G 3rd Gen versions have only 1GB RAM, and even with ZRAM, only a Facebook app can slow down the phone so much. I think Moto X 2nd Gen (Snapdragon 801 @2.5GHz) or Moto X Play could be better alternatives.