Well first of all i would like to say hello to this wonderful community, I've been following threads and news on XDA for many years, since I got my Galaxy Spica, and I wanted to learn a bit more and become more active, especially in this "new world" that Motorola means to me, since the Moto X is the first device I own that is different from the Galaxy series... but well, nowdays I own an Latinamerican variant of the X, the XT1058 that came with the America Movil 4.2.2 ROM, and yesterday I just spend like 5 hours trying to flash the AT&T 4.4 Kitkat variant into it... until I Succeded, but i just has TOO MANY BLOAT , so I was wondering if it is posible to flash through RSDLite the T-Mobile 4.4 without Bricking the X... I have seen ppl XT053 ROMS on their XT1058, but I dont know what path should I follow...
1) Go back to 4.2.2 downgrading the bootloader and flashing a 4.2.2 rom and then upgrade to 4.4
2) Just flash over the AT&T ROM the TMO 4.4 one though RSDLite ?
I'm sorry if im asking things that may sound a bit noobish, but in Samsung phones everything was way too easy compared to this... it just took me hours to discove how to use the emulator in order to get the ID for the locked bootloader...
btw... also sorry for my english
thanks and greetings from Chile !!
Option number 2 - flash over the AT&T 4.4 with the tmobile 4.4 and it will work fine.
Steve-x said:
Option number 2 - flash over the AT&T 4.4 with the tmobile 4.4 and it will work fine.
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Thanks a lot ! =)
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I've had my xt1060 developer edition for a week now and have taken the 4.4 update. Before I go any further with this thing I'm trying to get a solid handle on upgrading and downgrading firmware...
- What I have gathered to date is that no phones with unlocked bootloaders can be downgraded without potentially bricking the phone, with the exception of the VZ 4.4 to 4.2.2 camera fix due to bootloader revision. Is this true even for the developer edition? Common sense tells me a developer phone should be able to run any version of stock firmware for "developer" purposes.
- In my reading I'm thinking there may be bootloader free flashable updates, e.g. android update 4.3 for the GS3. Is this true? As I can't seem to locate what I believe to be a stock firmware for the VZ edition.
- At this point with the released firmwares being pretty bare there really isn't a reason to want to downgrade but who knows what the future may hold, again look what Samsung and VZ did to us GS3 owners with the 4.3 release.
I'm thinking many of the issues posted are from people cross flashing firmware, avoiding doing this makes sense to me especially for an incremental upgrade.
I have to say that I feel information is inconsistent and hard to follow due to all of the different carrier and bootloaders. I assumed this phone would be similar to my old GNex when it came to flashing but it apparently is not nearly as forgiving.
Finally, am I missing any critical "must know" information?
Thanks
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I've had my xt1060 developer edition for a week now and have taken the 4.4 update. Before I go any further with this thing I'm trying to get a solid handle on upgrading and downgrading firmware...
- What I have gathered to date is that no phones with unlocked bootloaders can be downgraded without potentially bricking the phone, with the exception of the VZ 4.4 to 4.2.2 camera fix due to bootloader revision. Is this true even for the developer edition? Common sense tells me a developer phone should be able to run any version of stock firmware for "developer" purposes.
- In my reading I'm thinking there may be bootloader free flashable updates, e.g. android update 4.3 for the GS3. Is this true? As I can't seem to locate what I believe to be a stock firmware for the VZ edition.
- At this point with the released firmwares being pretty bare there really isn't a reason to want to downgrade but who knows what the future may hold, again look what Samsung and VZ did to us GS3 owners with the 4.3 release.
I'm thinking many of the issues posted are from people cross flashing firmware, avoiding doing this makes sense to me especially for an incremental upgrade.
I have to say that I feel information is inconsistent and hard to follow due to all of the different carrier and bootloaders. I assumed this phone would be similar to my old GNex when it came to flashing but it apparently is not nearly as forgiving.
Finally, am I missing any critical "must know" information?
Thanks
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Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
All unlock boot loader motos are in the same boat, even DE variants
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flashallthetime said:
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
All unlock boot loader motos are in the same boat, even DE variants
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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How'd I miss that!?
IDK
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just bought a used lg g2 verizon version.
it says it is rooted on aokp 4.3 and has twrp installed.
Does that mean the bootloader is unlocked also?
Does that mean I can install any rom i want. 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4?
I'm coming from a SGS3.. so am very familiar with flashing roms on that device.
I'm trying to learn up on the lg g2. I see things mentioned like a work around for the bootloader? can anyone explain briefly to me the state of the lg g2 verizon version.
things like....
you have to root before ota or you can't get it. or if it is a fully unlocked bootloader or if work arounds allow us to achieve the same thing.
in the Q and A it seems more people are bricking devices than I'm used to seeing. Maybe its because the thread has all version of the lg g2 in it.
oh and the whole radio thing. 11a vs 12b. seems one needs to look at that before flashing some roms?
thanks!
The bootloader is not unlocked but they made a Loki patch like the s4 ... You can flash ROMs and kernels with it just the same so no worries ... Update your twrp if its out dated and flash away!! .. Just make sure to flash the right device ... These threads are not like the s3 threads but all combined ... Just read and you'll be alright
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Please excuse if this has been beaten to death. I've spent the last hour reading and reading an I've just gotten confused. I was heavily into the Android world for quite a while but have been out of it for a couple years. I bought my son a Droid Mini which from what I understand is pretty much the same thing as a Moto X. In the settings menu it says Android Version 4.4 Kernal Version 3.4.42-gfae57e0. I just need to root it. I'm not concerned about flashing ROMs, just need root for an app that requires it. Is it possible or do I need to get a different phone? I must have a root. Again please excuse the noob question but I've gotten a headache trying to make heads or tales of it.
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Please excuse if this has been beaten to death. I've spent the last hour reading and reading an I've just gotten confused. I was heavily into the Android world for quite a while but have been out of it for a couple years. I bought my son a Droid Mini which from what I understand is pretty much the same thing as a Moto X. In the settings menu it says Android Version 4.4 Kernal Version 3.4.42-gfae57e0. I just need to root it. I'm not concerned about flashing ROMs, just need root for an app that requires it. Is it possible or do I need to get a different phone? I must have a root. Again please excuse the noob question but I've gotten a headache trying to make heads or tales of it.
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No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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I guess I'll go that route then. I bought my second hand so returning isn't an option. Can you link me to a thread?
I feel so lost. My last Android two Androids were an EVO and a Droid OG, I feel so lost now. Had a ton of ROMs on those but wow things have changed.
boomhower said:
I guess I'll go that route then. I bought my second hand so returning isn't an option. Can you link me to a thread?
I feel so lost. My last Android two Androids were an EVO and a Droid OG, I feel so lost now. Had a ton of ROMs on those but wow things have changed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-x-vzw-bootloader-t2659234/page66
bigv5150 said:
No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
nhizzat said:
What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
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Under Android version it says 4.4. But is also says no software updates are available.... Kernal version says 3.4.42 that makes a difference. Guess the question is do I have 4.4 or 4.4.2. If .2 is the latest it should show under updates correct? Or maybe not since it's a Mini and not an X?
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What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
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Don't give this guy false hope without reading the OP. He does not have a moto x, He has a droid mini. The droid line cannot be downgraded from 4.4 to 4.2.2, thus his only option is to use the shady Chinese unlockers.
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boomhower said:
Under Android version it says 4.4. But is also says no software updates are available.... Kernal version says 3.4.42 that makes a difference. Guess the question is do I have 4.4 or 4.4.2. If .2 is the latest it should show under updates correct? Or maybe not since it's a Mini and not an X?
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You should get your rooting advice from this area of the forums, it will more closly resemble the options you have available to your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-ultra
VZW droid mini ,ultra, and maxx are all still on 4.4. They cannot be downgraded due to verizon locking the bootloader. You will get confused answers from the moto x owners, as they could downgrade from 4.4 to 4.2.2 and then keep root using some trickery.
While it is true that this trickery would work to on your droid mini if you hadnt yet updated to 4.4, there is no way to revert to 4.2.2 on your device. your best option getting an unlock code from a 3rd party (this voids your warranty)
consider if it is worth it to you
Good luck,
You can't root 4.4 the droid line doesn't have 4.4.2 yet so your on 4.4.
As for the guys being shady selling the code that is absolutely false. Many have bought the code they are very accommodating and helpful. As a matter of fact a few were not able to get the code for what ever reason and were refunded the money. As far as I'm concerned if you want root unlock the boot loader it ain't coming anytime soon.
And further questions should be asked in the ultra section the ultra maxx and mini are the same. The moto x is 99.9% the same but as you can see there are a few differences like they can downgrade 4.4.
As a matter of fact I'm typing this on my maxx running 4.4.2 ported from a moto x. That is what you can do with an unlocked boot loader.
It is possible! I am now the owner of a fully rooted Droid Mini XT1030 running stock 4.4. It took buying a code from the Chinese tab site and a whole lot of help from NWKENT. He should be nominated for some kind of an award. He took the time on a Sunday morning to talk me through it on the phone. He's a saint in my book.
I have an unlocked MOTO x and im on 4.4.2?? isnt 4.4.4 out now?
No, the last version is 4.4.3 and if you really need to update (there is no reason to do) first install a retail version firmware for your X model. (If there)
Here's the complete firmware list.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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Joseluize said:
No, the last version is 4.4.3 and if you really need to update (there is no reason to do) first install a retail version firmware for your X model. (If there)
Here's the complete firmware list.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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4.4.3 isnt there no, will it come soon?
idonttakedrugs said:
4.4.3 isnt there no, will it come soon?
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First, the person who answered you should have asked which device you are using (model number), and who your carrier is.
Second, the majority of us here don't recommend that you flash another carrier's firmware to your phone. Many things can go wrong, and if you ever revert back to the correct firmware, you have to use extreme caution to make sure you don't flash an OLDER firmware version to the phone, which can brick it!!! If you choose to flash a different firmware to your phone, do it at your own risk. You could end up with a paperweight.
Third, both the 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 updates are very MINOR updates. It isn't worth bricking just because you aren't patient, simply to (possibly) get another hour or two of battery life or a few small bug fixes.
I highly recommend that you simply be patient. Your carrier WILL release 4.4.4 eventually, and at that time you can simply take the over-the-air update assuming you haven't modified your /system or flashed custom recovery.
the update won't be noticeable to the users. it is bug fixes and a few tweaks. better to wait for 5.0 to come out
Joseluize said:
Here's the complete firmware list.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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Slight correction... that is NOT the complete firmware list.
That site contains a copy of any SBF found or leaked... Sometimes it takes weeks after an OTA is pushed before a leaked SBF of that version is found and posted (think ATT 4.4.2)
They are "leaks" in the fact that they are not meant to be released to the public. As for how they "make it out" to end up on that site, well that is a different discussion that I don't want to get into.
That site is neither owned, operated, nor supported by Motorola.
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I have an unlocked MOTO x and im on 4.4.2?? isnt 4.4.4 out now?
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also if you have had a locked phone PREVIOUSLY but unlocked it later, and you are using a carrier thats not the orginal one, I think that could also factor in as to why you are not getting updates. For example, if you had a moto x for ATT and you unlocked it to use for TMOBILE, you might have a delayed update or in some cases no update at all. Just my 2 cents.
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also if you have had a locked phone PREVIOUSLY but unlocked it later, and you are using a carrier thats not the orginal one, I think that could also factor in as to why you are not getting updates. For example, if you had a moto x for ATT and you unlocked it to use for TMOBILE, you might have a delayed update or in some cases no update at all. Just my 2 cents.
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bought it unlocked mate,
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First, the person who answered you should have asked which device you are using (model number), and who your carrier is.
Second, the majority of us here don't recommend that you flash another carrier's firmware to your phone. Many things can go wrong, and if you ever revert back to the correct firmware, you have to use extreme caution to make sure you don't flash an OLDER firmware version to the phone, which can brick it!!! If you choose to flash a different firmware to your phone, do it at your own risk. You could end up with a paperweight.
Third, both the 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 updates are very MINOR updates. It isn't worth bricking just because you aren't patient, simply to (possibly) get another hour or two of battery life or a few small bug fixes.
I highly recommend that you simply be patient. Your carrier WILL release 4.4.4 eventually, and at that time you can simply take the over-the-air update assuming you haven't modified your /system or flashed custom recovery.
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my phones unlocked, so shouldnt i have the latest from motorola?? i will wait, but im just baffled on how i havent got it
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my phones unlocked, so shouldnt i have the latest from motorola?? i will wait, but im just baffled on how i havent got it
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It does not matter that your phone is unlocked. This is totally unrelated to receiving updates. Just FYI, NO ONE with a Moto X has received 4.4.4 yet (except MAYBE soak-testers). Only a handful of carriers are on 4.4.3.
The 4.4.3 upgrade was CANCELLED do to a bug being found, and instead, all the variants that hadn't released 4.4.3 are going to be upgraded STRAIGHT to 4.4.4 (skipping 4.4.3 entirely).
I don't think you understand just how much testing has to go into these upgrades before they are released.
Here is an EXCELLENT article that should explain it for you. The part you are interested in is called "The Big Hold-Up"
http://gizmodo.com/5987508/why-android-updates-are-so-slow
so this question got me escalate to moto level 3 support - i have a 1053 dev edition unlocked/rooted that was used on tmo for about 8 months, got the ota 4.4.3 from them no prob. now switched carriers and the sim swap went fine and the coverage in my area is much better, but i'm afraid that the upgrade path is muddled.
i can't get the 4.4.4 ota from att, and cant find the zip anywhere. i reinstalled stock recovery, still no go. my hypothesis is that the att won't see my phone as eligible for ota since it is not a version 4.4.2 that it's designed to upgrade. or, maybe i'm a total noob and don't know wtf i'm saying. a lil help? ideas? things to try? i'm at a loss....
The xt1053 does not have 4.4.4 yet. You're fine, you just need to keep waiting.
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OTAs aren't released by the carrier, they are specific to the phone model. In your case, the XT1053. As AGISCI said, 4.4.4 isn't available for the 1053 yet. Also, the difference between 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 is very small, mostly just a good for a bug.
i have no problem waiting as a former gnex/vzw person...
...but i just wanted to make sure i didn't paint myself in a corner and be forever on 4.4.3 - i'll keep looking to moto for the eventual update. Thanks for the reply
Nope, you're up to date. We'll see if they even bother with the 4.4.4 update, or whether they just skip it when android L is released with the new nexus (also reported to be made by moto).