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Little cracks in white surround of screen....

Hi All. My note had been in a case from day one. Over the last few weeks I noticed two tiny cracks in the plastic thin edge between the screen glass and the alloy edge strip!
It almost looks like the note he's flexed and cracked the plastic but it can't have done as I never put it in my trouser pocket, always my jacket.
It only seems to be on the power button edge side too.
The issue I have is I have the SuperNexus room on it so not sure about how the warranty goes.... theoretically software doesn't effect hardware cravings so I think it's OK to expect a warranty fix?
Advice appreciated.
Thanks.
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adamelphick said:
Hi All. My note had been in a case from day one. Over the last few weeks I noticed two tiny cracks in the plastic thin edge between the screen glass and the alloy edge strip!
It almost looks like the note he's flexed and cracked the plastic but it can't have done as I never put it in my trouser pocket, always my jacket.
It only seems to be on the power button edge side too.
The issue I have is I have the SuperNexus room on it so not sure about how the warranty goes.... theoretically software doesn't effect hardware cravings so I think it's OK to expect a warranty fix?
Advice appreciated.
Thanks.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
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Your Warranty might fix your phone (because in some countries the Warranty only covers Factory Mistakes or Issues). Doesnt matter what rom or kernel have in your note, because its a hardware problem, not soft. But you won't lose nothing if you call to Samsung (or your carrier) and tells what's your problem!
Good Luck! And sorry for my bad english. Greetings from Argentina!

adamelphick said:
Hi All. My note had been in a case from day one. Over the last few weeks I noticed two tiny cracks in the plastic thin edge between the screen glass and the alloy edge strip!
It almost looks like the note he's flexed and cracked the plastic but it can't have done as I never put it in my trouser pocket, always my jacket.
It only seems to be on the power button edge side too.
The issue I have is I have the SuperNexus room on it so not sure about how the warranty goes.... theoretically software doesn't effect hardware cravings so I think it's OK to expect a warranty fix?
Advice appreciated.
Thanks.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
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I noticed the same on my white Note... I never saw the cracks on my previous black Note though. I don't know if white's are prone to this defect or blacks simply camouflage the tiny cracks better.
I will take my Note for warranty and will see if I can exchange it for a black Note instead.
Cheers!
Rayan

Thanks for the replies. Will pop it in to an O2 store and see what they say!

Rayan said:
I noticed the same on my white Note... I never saw the cracks on my previous black Note though. I don't know if white's are prone to this defect or blacks simply camouflage the tiny cracks better.
I will take my Note for warranty and will see if I can exchange it for a black Note instead.
Cheers!
Rayan
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I am having the black note. But unfortunately even I have observed the cracks. I don't think they will exchange it under the warranty, since it can be considered as a physical damage.
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Black edging/ surround breaking away
My N7000 today shows black edging/ surround breaking away from glass and casing, almost breaking off completely..
See pic..
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Dust in screen?!?!

I seem to have a spec of something in the screen, I just noticed it yesterday. I'm 100% sure it was not there before as its on the white part of the gmail icon on my homescreen, so if it was there before I would have noticed it.
I'm also pretty certain it's not a dead pixel as it appears above the text on my screen. Also if I position some text so the corner or edge of a letter just touches it, it seems to shift if I look at it in different angles which would indicate its not a pixel but something above the actual LCD panel.
Not sure how to explain this better, but I have seen LCDs with dead pixels, something behind the LCD panel, and something between the LCD and glass, and this definitely looks like it something above the lcd.
The thing is, the Xperia Z LCD panel is meant to be bonded directly to the LCD, so there is no air gap, so theoretically nothing can get between the LCD and the glass.
Anyway, I just ordered a usb microscope (always wanted one anyway) which should arrive tomorrow so I can get a better look at this and figure out what is going on.
Just really bugging me at the moment, also heard that sony has been refusing repairs on Xperia Z with less than 3 faulty pixels, so also worried if it is indeed a pixel.

OK, it is definitely dust or something in my screen, I have tried shining a bright LED into the screen and I can see a speck with the screen off, exactly where the the black spec shows up on my screen is on.
I thought the whole lcd was meant to be bonded to the screen removing the whole of the air layer. as shown on sony's website.
Anyone have similar issue? or know about if there is indeed a gap between the lcd and the glass?

Well, no one seems interested in this thread, but here goes anyway. Just in case someone does have same issue later on:
usb microscope arrived today and here are the pictures:
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It clearly shows that its not a dead or stuck pixel. there is definitely something between the LCD and the glass. Which would mean that there is a gap between the LCD and the front glass. I thought that there isn't a gap as the LCD is bonded to the glass.
Have to find time to take it to sony and see what they say I guess.

The shatter layer is off on your phone?

You will get a replacement . :thumbup:
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Phantom3D said:
The shatter layer is off on your phone?
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No it's still on.

Maybe the dust is just under the Shatter-film then?

Nope, as it only appeared there a couple days ago.
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i have dust at the right side of front camera (not in), need to take time to revert back to stock and take it back for replacement.
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Thankfully there are people who share their problems even when no one was intetested like in this thread I am curious how this issue end up for the dust owner Well, I have bought Z1 Compact and it seems I'm facing the same problem. Firstly, I thought that maybe dead pixel appeared after few days but can't be - that black spot is seen even when the screen is turned off. It's very small but for me makes huge difference.

Hello everyone!!
I need help quickly! I have the same problem with my XZ, i have dust under the digitizer (only visible on white and green light), if I send it on RMA, will they change the screen and digitizer (I heard somewhere that they need to do that because it's sticked together), or just clean the dust?
Thanks in advance

Insanes said:
Thankfully there are people who share their problems even when no one was intetested like in this thread I am curious how this issue end up for the dust owner Well, I have bought Z1 Compact and it seems I'm facing the same problem. Firstly, I thought that maybe dead pixel appeared after few days but can't be - that black spot is seen even when the screen is turned off. It's very small but for me makes huge difference.
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Sony took it in for repair, took them nearly 3 weeks but ended up giving me a new phone (different IMEI and newer manufacturing date). Not quite sure why I got a new phone but it was all good!
MARKOZD15 said:
Hello everyone!!
I need help quickly! I have the same problem with my XZ, i have dust under the digitizer (only visible on white and green light), if I send it on RMA, will they change the screen and digitizer (I heard somewhere that they need to do that because it's sticked together), or just clean the dust?
Thanks in advance
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They told me that the front of the phone with lcd and digitizer gets replaced as it's all one part.

Shame on ifixit!

ifixit undoubtedly has the best teardown guides, but when they said that the nexus 5 front panel is a "fused flustercluck" that really bugged me.
To be honest i think their style has changed from when they first started, now the teardown guides seem to make a few too many jokes and links to irrelevant stuff. I'm not a huge fan of this, but I'm holding that against them as everyone has their own style.
But saying that the N5 front panle is a fused flustercluck just bugged me when they are perfectly happy to try melting the glue on the ipads and ipod touches to get into them, but not try that on the nexus 5. They even specifically sell the "iOpener" (basically an overpriced microwave heatable beanbag thingy) for situations like this. Not trying is what annoyed me.
So I set out to try myself!
I bought a whole front panel assembly with screen.
Now i don't have one of their heated beanbags so i just stuck the whole thing in the oven at a low temperature. 40C pretty much did nothing (as expected) so then i set it at 70C and heated the whole thing until it was toasty (15 mins).
Using a suction cup on the glass did nothing, then i noticed that I could see the back of the screen through the slits which the rear cover clips onto. So i started pushing at it with a plastic spudger, (the ifixit one fits perfectly).
I saw that that glass was coming away from the case, and careful pushing gave me a big enough gap to slip a guitar pick in. pushing at the other slits and running the guitar pick around the screen came off relatively easily.
One thing about the gorilla glass 3, it was pretty flexible, i was seriously concerned that i was going to crack the glass! it seemed to flex more than the sgp glass protectors i used before.
The glue is only around the edge of the screen which made it easier, I was worried that the whole back of the screen would be glued as well, but its just a foam pad.
Popped the back off my nexus 5 and attached the ribbon cable for the now separated screen just to make sure its all working and it is!
So here we are, the front panel is not a "fused flustercluck" as ifixit says, but can be easily separated. Even easier if the screen is damaged so you don't need to worry about keeping the screen in one piece.
ifixit gave the nexus 5 a negative point on this:
The glass and LCD are fused to the display frame. Fixing broken glass will be either expensive or very difficult.
But in all honesty, since the difference for just the glass and screen and the whole front panel (including the screen) is so small, it makes no sense to take the hassle of replacing just the screen, and also since most failures are going to be physical damage resulting from dropping the bezel will likely be damaged too, and just makes more sense to replace the whole thing.
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Dude! Why? Can you please send me some of the cash you've got lying around?
sent from my hammerhead

Damn that looks really cool. Thanks for the information, it's actually very useful.

Pictures are down for me at this time.
But kudos for the effort. Maybe ifixit should see this and revise their teardown.

ldubs said:
Dude! Why? Can you please send me some of the cash you've got lying around?
sent from my hammerhead
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LOL
I am actually doing a custom mod on the nexus 5 which requires the screen and front assembly/bezel to be separate.
I managed to find the screen only without the front assembly/bezel but not just the assembly/bezel itself so I went this route of separating it myself.
squeeish said:
Pictures are down for me at this time.
But kudos for the effort. Maybe ifixit should see this and revise their teardown.
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I have updated the links for the photos now, hopefully this site is more reliable!
I wouldn't mind if someone linked this page to ifixit.

The pics with the detached screen still working are priceless.

electric0ant said:
LOL
I am actually doing a custom mod on the nexus 5 which requires the screen and front assembly/bezel to be separate.
I managed to find the screen only without the front assembly/bezel but not just the assembly/bezel itself so I went this route of separating it myself.
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When you finish modification share with us the result.

electric0ant said:
LOL
I am actually doing a custom mod on the nexus 5 which requires the screen and front assembly/bezel to be separate.
I managed to find the screen only without the front assembly/bezel but not just the assembly/bezel itself so I went this route of separating it myself.
I have updated the links for the photos now, hopefully this site is more reliable!
I wouldn't mind if someone linked this page to ifixit.
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Wait...what mod?:what:

davwman said:
Wait...what mod?:what:
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+1
What is this custom mod that you speak of?
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All I can say is that it's quite an ambitious mod (for me anyway).
I will definitely let you guys know once I complete it, but it all depended on me being able to separate the screen from the bezel and that worked, so all lights are green!
I just need to source equipment and parts, but with the holidays coming up It likely won;t be until mid-late jan until I will finish this.

[Q] Broken back glass : manufacturing problem or bad luck ?

Dear XDA users,
I bought my Mi 9 early April and after less than a month I have found the back glass broken like this when taking the phone out of my jeans pocket :
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The phone never fell (it has absolutely no marks on the outer metal), I did not perform any special/unusual move with the phone in my pocket, and there was no other items in that pocket (I am used to carry all my phones that way for years).
But this time I just found the mobile like that when I took it out. Note that I am not using any kind of protection.
So I wonder if I just had extreme bad luck or if more devices may have a fragility on their back glass ?

Maybe there was some keys or coins in you pocket and sitting with jeans make some pressure on phones

emprazol said:
Maybe there was some keys or coins in you pocket and sitting with jeans make some pressure on phones
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No as I wrote above there was nothing else in my pocket. I am used to live and travel with all my phones like that for a dozen years, and I never put anything else in the same pocket to avoid damaging the screen. It worked fine until now...

I wonder if it accidentally got hit or something, I know you said no but it looks like that section near the usbc port is took a hit of some sort.
I had my oneplus back crack, only a few weeks old, never dropped etc but I chalked it up to it must have inadvertently got hit somehow/someway without be knowing as I didn't find others with the same issue.

Ducter said:
I wonder if it accidentally got hit or something, I know you said no but it looks like that section near the usbc port is took a hit of some sort.
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The cracks in the glass seem to start from the bottom indeed, but I can assure you that the metal all around the usbc is totally clean (there is a small white reflection there on the picture which may be seen as a damage, but it's not).
I cannot exclude that I missed a "hit" on my pocket during the hour which elapsed since the previous phone usage, but it would still be extremely weak for a gorilla glass 5 to break with a "hit" that I wouldn't have felt or noticed :/

kalhimeo said:
The cracks in the glass seem to start from the bottom indeed, but I can assure you that the metal all around the usbc is totally clean (there is a small white reflection there on the picture which may be seen as a damage, but it's not).
I cannot exclude that I missed a "hit" on my pocket during the hour which elapsed since the previous phone usage, but it would still be extremely weak for a gorilla glass 5 to break with a "hit" that I wouldn't have felt or noticed :/
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Just looking around, can order a new back glass for $10 and it looks simple to replace. That's good at least.
Back removal
https://youtu.be/Pj-6LN53RbE
Replacement back here

It's 3D glass. NEVER leave it unprotected.
2.5D glass on iPhones are much weaker as well (like the front of the Mi 9 which is very close).
3D glass or Edge-Glass (think Samsung Galaxy S7/8/9/10) is also amongst the worst.
No one should go without, AT LEAST, the included case, just because the camera glass isn't sapphire-crystal (9H) but sapphire-glass (5.5H) - like JerryRigEverything test has shown.

Ducter said:
Just looking around, can order a new back glass for $10 and it looks simple to replace. That's good at least.
Back removal
https://youtu.be/Pj-6LN53RbE
Replacement back here
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Thank you very much for the links. I don't have the tool to heat the back but I may try to get it done in a repair shop.
RedWave31 said:
It's 3D glass. NEVER leave it unprotected.
2.5D glass on iPhones are much weaker as well (like the front of the Mi 9 which is very close).
3D glass or Edge-Glass (think Samsung Galaxy S7/8/9/10) is also amongst the worst.
No one should go without, AT LEAST, the included case, just because the camera glass isn't sapphire-crystal (9H) but sapphire-glass (5.5H) - like JerryRigEverything test has shown.
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I had a Galaxy S7 before the Mi 9, two years in my pocket exactly the same way with no protections, never had a scratch on the screen or back

Same issue repeated with the rear glass on Mi9
My phone is in a robust case and the rear glass has been broken 3 times now! I have never broken any screen before and I have had phones for over 25 years.

Hi,
I just realize that I forgot to provide feedback here.
So I bought this back cover on Aliexpress : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33009357325.html
An this heat gun : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32966891985.html
I replaced the back cover myself and it was quite easy. Have a look at video like this one before : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta_vYqOfK0Q
Since then, I am enjoying my Mi 9 and never had any problem with broken back or front glass anymore (although I still don't use any cover and hold the phone in my pocket...).
I think that the original back cover that I had was faulty, although Xiaomi never accepted that and refused to repair under warranty.
Good luck with yours !
Laurent

Thanks I will give it a try.
I have purchased all of the replacement screens do far from eBay..

Looks like bad luck. I don't use a case on my Mi 9 with no issues. The back is all scratched up, but no cracks.

Camera protector

So I bought display glass protectors that included protectors for the camera aswell.
Before applying the screen protector I noticed the factory installed screen protector. It was just barely visible and I had to google if this was a protector and that I do not break anything by removing it
So back to the camera protector. I can't really tell if there is a camera protector installed already. I couldn't find anything regarding this.
Does anybody know? I don't wanna break anything by trying to remove something that isn't there.
Thanks in advance

No, buddy, there's no camera protector. Apply it soon. I can't purchase it locally due to crappy market and already dinted. It's so tiny but i know its there. Drives me nuts.

There is indeed a factory installed cam protector just like the Note 10+
Just use a case with a raised guard around it and it will do fine.
After over 1 year there's zero damage to my 10+'s.
You may need to remove the back panel if you need to replace it but so what?
The add on cam protector isn't needed but a good case is for these Notes. They are corner hit happy and one unprotected drop is all it takes.

I too bought a 4 pack of screen protectors that came with 3 camera protectors as well figured why not right? WRONG once installed they make the flash useless as the flash hits the glass and glares out the photo horribly. No matter how perfect you get the cutout for the flash this issues still happens. I had mine on perfectly even used a lighted magnifying inspection glass to verify when I was installing it.

Same issue here. It causes too much glare when using flash

guys, really put something protective on there! loads of people reported that their camera glass broke without any big impact, including me. Samsung only offers a lenghty repair service instead of admitting their mistake. it's annoying and makes my telezoom lense almost unausable in certain light situations.

Frau Son said:
guys, really put something protective on there! loads of people reported that their camera glass broke without any big impact, including me. Samsung only offers a lenghty repair service instead of admitting their mistake. it's annoying and makes my telezoom lense almost unausable in certain light situations.
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Get a good case with a raised cam assembly guard. Jeeeesze.

blackhawk said:
Get a good case with a raised cam assembly guard. Jeeeesze.
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I had one on the day I got the phone. Didn't make a difference. Camera cracked in two places, people on Samsung Members are complaining about the same thing. Not one drop, not one time set on the table roughly. Broken just 3 days after it arrived.

Frau Son said:
I had one on the day I got the phone. Didn't make a difference. Camera cracked in two places, people on Samsung Members are complaining about the same thing. Not one drop, not one time set on the table roughly. Broken just 3 days after it arrived.
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That's not a good case! Finding a good one tough. You absolutely need a raised guard for the cam and screen.
I use the Zizo Bolt on my 10+, while I don't intentionally test it, it's survive around half a dozen drops onto concrete from 2-3 feet with zero damage.

Nillkin makes a case for the S20FE which has a sliding panel to protect the lens.
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I've purchased this on Ali express on HM lucky store.it was not easy to find with the cut out model so you won't get any blurred pictures.

blackhawk said:
Get a good case with a raised cam assembly guard.
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+1, why you would want to use a £500 phone with no case?
archipelago said:
Nillkin makes a case for the S20FE which has a sliding panel to protect the lens.
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This looks quite cool, but looks bulky -
Don1003 said:
I've purchased this on Ali express on HM lucky store.it was not easy to find with the cut out model so you won't get any blurred pictures.
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However I like the idea of adding this even with a case, Do you have a direct link to the product page..?

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b1k3rdude said:
+1, why you would want to use a £500 phone with no case?
This looks quite cool, but looks bulky -
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However I like the idea of adding this even with a case, Do you have a direct link to the product page..?
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https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKxjXJj
You still have to open and a drop while you take pictures with that case won't prevent you could drop it on a small rock with that big size glass. That's why I still prefer a protector strait on the camera. Tomorrow I have to pick up from post office and post picture afterwards with a case.

Ah so I see its just tempered glass with a film to outline the camera lens and flash, clever.

Received today. It's a aluminum Matt Finnish protector. The black is a spigen case and it's still inside the cover.

Nice, doesn't look half bad