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Hello Everybody..
I been itching to upgrade my phone and purchase an Android based phone since months and just when i was set to purchase Incredible S.. these dual cores start popping up.
I am not too much of a geek to fall for the dual cores straightaway, esp when the OS/Apps arent optimized for dual, still thought about considering Lg Optimus 2x as both are closely matched regarding the pricing in my area.
Preference:-
1) Battery
Need to have the battery lasting through the day on moderate/decent usage.
2) Camera
Cant ignore this aspect. Basically still photography. Videos shdnt be horrible either.
3) Ofc the sensible purchase Out of Incrdible S / 2x
Been reading lots of reviews and what not but still a little doubt remains.
Even though totally sold on the HTC Sensation.. the phone might not debut here for another month and a half and more importantly will open with a huge price difference (taking 2x/Incredible S in view)
Advice/Suggestions needed guys.
If you ask me, I will never buy LG phone.
I am HTC fan and I can tell you that Incredible S is one of the best HTC phones till now. My previous phone was Desire HD. Incredible S is much, much better.
Thanks greggy..
Oh and one more thing.. Camera is another thing which needs to be counted in.
Updating original post as well.
I have tried both. And send the LG back.
Camera, battery, software is crap.
I have bought an incredible now and it's absolutely cool.
Camera is quite good.
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Formel-LMS said:
I have tried both. And send the LG back.
Camera, battery, software is crap.
I have bought an incredible now and it's absolutely cool.
Camera is quite good.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
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Heyy I remember you from the Nexus One threads! Cool you're a Incredible S convert as well
I've just bought a new HTC Incredible S. Looks nice, however i realized that the phone signal drops 1 line if I grab the phone with my full hand sovering the top.
Anyway, what makes HTC better than the LG Optimus X2? I'm a fan of HTC.. but according to the features.. the X2 should be much better than our HTC
gregy74 said:
If you ask me, I will never buy LG phone.
I am HTC fan and I can tell you that Incredible S is one of the best HTC phones till now. My previous phone was Desire HD. Incredible S is much, much better.
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Same dilema here, but with the desire s instead of this!
Is dual core just overhyped?
also may i ask, why did you upgrade from a dhd to the incredible s?
Is it coz of battery?
emarcoss said:
.. but according to the features.. the X2 should be much better than our HTC
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i believe the answer lies with the combo of a better optimised s/w + RAM.
Thanks to 'Formel-LMS' we have a comment from a user who tried his hands on both the phones. Thanks to him.
I've just bought a new HTC Incredible S. Looks nice, however i realized that the phone signal drops 1 line if I grab the phone with my full hand sovering the top.
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That's due to the incorrect way of holding the phone.
Basically Phones are never meant to be held with fingers anywhere near the antenna as that interferes with the signal reception..and i think that is exactly what happened with you.
spacescreamer said:
Preference:-
1) Battery
Need to have the battery lasting through the day on moderate/decent usage.
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Don't count on the dual-core chips having better battery life until a process shrink.
Formel-LMS said:
I have tried both. And send the LG back.
Camera, battery, software is crap.
I have bought an incredible now and it's absolutely cool.
Camera is quite good.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
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Same here. HD filming is also very nice, but takes a lot of SD memory.
Device is very fast,
Also the speed of the serviceprovider is very important. Check with others.
From Nameit's HTC Incredible s using XDA app!
i dont like the LG
gregy74 said:
If you ask me, I will never buy LG phone.
I am HTC fan and I can tell you that Incredible S is one of the best HTC phones till now. My previous phone was Desire HD. Incredible S is much, much better.
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same here, my previous one was HD2, love the S
Gihanfx said:
same here, my previous one was HD2, love the S
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I was stupid to buy LG 2x seeing positive reviews, everything is crap, phone is getting switched off on its own, too much hassel, i wont go for LG again
only positive thing about lg is root freindly, but i believe incredible s will come around, but i thought same for legend & it never picked up
Hi ppl
I have read this tread and realised that there have been a lot of dislikes about the LG optimus 2x. I am actually a user for both the 2x and Incredible S. so i can tell you the pros and cons for each phones...
Yes i have to admit when the LG came out fresh from the box it does have its flaws but it is mainly due to LG programmers... It hangs lags and self restart but after a firmware upgrade (10A to 10B) all these problems are gone! Now it is fast and smooth and it has not given me any problem since then!
Of course it is still not perfect! there are atill some flaws i will get back to that later...
Now to the HTC
firstly i have to admit the HTC sense do really make life easier! especially if you upgrade from 1 HTC to another HTC!
Apart from the usual Gmail sync that you get for all android phone, HTC sense actually automatically sync everything! settings, ringtones and including your SMS! This is a big plus point actually! Also sense makes contact management a breeze as you can link each contact to their email, face book, whatsapp...
This really help you see your things about your friends easily without the need of switching from one programme to another...
To sum up the pros and cons...
Pros for 2x
Camera both is 8mp but LG is much sharper and also in dark situation, LG actually uses its LED Flash to auto focus first so you will get sharp picture even in dark situation.
As compared to the HTC it does not perform well in dark situations and it does not use its LED to help focus the objects.
Also the flash on 2x is actually brighter then the dual LED on the HTC.
2x has full HD video recording while HTC is only 720p... 2x is really nice when it comes to video recording.
2x has built in 8GB of memory and it can still be further increased Via micro SD while HTC only has 1gb for programs...
LG has direct HDMI output and it really output to my TV at Full HD
LG has better sound quality speaker, it rings and sound much louder!
LG has better screen picture quality.
LG has better battery life compared to HTC. HTC can't last more then 10 hours without charging but LG can... Usually when my HTC die my LG still has about 20 percent.
Lg somehow has better signal level compared to HTC... this could be due to the fact that HTC tried to cut cost and put the Signal antenna to the battery cover so if you cover with your hands you will get a drastic signal drop.
cons for LG
Facebook integration is not as good as htc
thicker and heavier then htc.
Pros for HTC
HTC Sense! it is a really big plus point! it is really useful.
Better user experience... Examples are that you do not have to do screen unlock to skip the next music track when you are listening to music wherelse LG have to unlock the screen and go to the music menu to go to the next track!
Email SMS inbox can be seen on the screen without going into the program itself (again thanks to HTC sense widgets).
Cons
Sorry some of the cons are actually mention on the LG's pro for comparision.
examples are the camera and video recording are not as good as the LG.
Battery life is considerable less.
sometimes it is really sluggish (could be also due to the fact that htc sense is a resource eater!)
for now i can only report till here...
all i can say is HTC is really way ahead from all the competitor in android for its programming!
and also i prefer the build quality on the LG itself! it feels more solid!
PS. For all the people who has LG 2x and expericeing hanging please just do a simple upgrade of firmware as it really improve and solve all the problems.
I hope this helps!
Optimus 2X has a Tegra dual core, HDMI, 1080p HD recording, gyroscope,
however, it only has 512MB RAM, it's a big disadvantage
BTW: I don't trust LG phone's quality, i'd prefer Incredible S ...
At carphone warehouse in the uk, the incredible s cost more than the lg! Then the wildfire s cost only £50 less than the lg. So ppl in uk have already negative views of it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEeulajPlkk#
Show's that dual core and quadrant score don' mean jack in day to day stuff.
Don't fall into the more is better trap that people fell for with their PC processors. It took folks about two years to realise (unless you spend your life gaming) it was total ****.
coolnil said:
Hi ppl
I have read this tread and realised that there have been a lot of dislikes about the LG optimus 2x. I am actually a user for both the 2x and Incredible S. so i can tell you the pros and cons for each phones...
Yes i have to admit when the LG came out fresh from the box it does have its flaws but it is mainly due to LG programmers... It hangs lags and self restart but after a firmware upgrade (10A to 10B) all these problems are gone! Now it is fast and smooth and it has not given me any problem since then!
Of course it is still not perfect! there are atill some flaws i will get back to that later...
Now to the HTC
firstly i have to admit the HTC sense do really make life easier! especially if you upgrade from 1 HTC to another HTC!
Apart from the usual Gmail sync that you get for all android phone, HTC sense actually automatically sync everything! settings, ringtones and including your SMS! This is a big plus point actually! Also sense makes contact management a breeze as you can link each contact to their email, face book, whatsapp...
This really help you see your things about your friends easily without the need of switching from one programme to another...
To sum up the pros and cons...
Pros for 2x
Camera both is 8mp but LG is much sharper and also in dark situation, LG actually uses its LED Flash to auto focus first so you will get sharp picture even in dark situation.
As compared to the HTC it does not perform well in dark situations and it does not use its LED to help focus the objects.
Also the flash on 2x is actually brighter then the dual LED on the HTC.
2x has full HD video recording while HTC is only 720p... 2x is really nice when it comes to video recording.
2x has built in 8GB of memory and it can still be further increased Via micro SD while HTC only has 1gb for programs...
LG has direct HDMI output and it really output to my TV at Full HD
LG has better sound quality speaker, it rings and sound much louder!
LG has better screen picture quality.
LG has better battery life compared to HTC. HTC can't last more then 10 hours without charging but LG can... Usually when my HTC die my LG still has about 20 percent.
Lg somehow has better signal level compared to HTC... this could be due to the fact that HTC tried to cut cost and put the Signal antenna to the battery cover so if you cover with your hands you will get a drastic signal drop.
cons for LG
Facebook integration is not as good as htc
thicker and heavier then htc.
Pros for HTC
HTC Sense! it is a really big plus point! it is really useful.
Better user experience... Examples are that you do not have to do screen unlock to skip the next music track when you are listening to music wherelse LG have to unlock the screen and go to the music menu to go to the next track!
Email SMS inbox can be seen on the screen without going into the program itself (again thanks to HTC sense widgets).
Cons
Sorry some of the cons are actually mention on the LG's pro for comparision.
examples are the camera and video recording are not as good as the LG.
Battery life is considerable less.
sometimes it is really sluggish (could be also due to the fact that htc sense is a resource eater!)
for now i can only report till here...
all i can say is HTC is really way ahead from all the competitor in android for its programming!
and also i prefer the build quality on the LG itself! it feels more solid!
PS. For all the people who has LG 2x and expericeing hanging please just do a simple upgrade of firmware as it really improve and solve all the problems.
I hope this helps!
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Can someone comment about the battery? cuz reviews say it can last 1-2 days easily with light to moderate use
mazinya said:
Can someone comment about the battery? cuz reviews say it can last 1-2 days easily with light to moderate use
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I am very happy with Iicredible s battery, i dont know about lg as the phone i had was playing freeze game with me, whenever i left the phone on its own it would freeze and will only respond to pulling battery!!
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Can someone comment about the battery? cuz reviews say it can last 1-2 days easily with light to moderate use
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Yes, I am rarely below 40% after 24 hours. Usage typically consists of Exchange and gmail updates every 15 minutes, light browsing and periodic widget updates. The screen brightness will affect this though.
And this is without having to resort to a task killer.
I am stuck between Incredible S and Xperia Neo cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Wave and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but HDMI and camera is good on Neo.
Kindly suggest me which one should i get ?
It's got to be the IS, Sony phones feel so plastic and cheap when you use them, even the screens feel like they're made of plastic, i know the back of the IS is plastic but that's it, at least it feels solid when you hold it.
You can customise the UI to almost anything, it never lags, it's very fast for browsing and it's light, it's a freaking awesome phone
Thanks for the reply, can you use LED Flash with video on IS ?
Yes you can!
Thanks a lot for the replies, am sure getting IS.
Xperia Neo is S-OFF with unlocked bootloader. IS isn't.
If I were you, I will get SE Xperia Neo instead. HTC is crab with this bootloader locked. You can't do much with this crab.
I regret getting this IS which I am not able to change ROM. Furthermore, you will get bored with this HTC Sense crab. Nothing much.
Also, IS phone signal is very weak. I always have signal drop till no network. I have Moto Milestone compare side by side, MM never has this problem. Same provider, network but this IS is ****.
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't you do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Neo so I can't compare the two two, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the arc is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing oi would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
The IS is a great phone definitely get a case for it I have an OtterBox for mine works awesome. As l0st.prophet said you should have done the research before buying it I work at Virgin Mobile and I knew before buying it with my 30% discount that it couldn't be rooted yet but that time will come. The xperia neo i wont think will have a big following go for the arc or play if u want a sony device.
Otherwise stick with the IS great phone takes amazing pictures and is pretty damn fast specially compared to my Blackberry 9780. Only issue i have is the radio seems week and I don't get as good as a signal with it as I did with my Blackberry 9780.
l0st.prophet said:
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
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Because some people are only happy when they're complaining, if they could install another ROM they only come on here to ***** about how their wifi don't work, they can't take pictures properly, etc, etc, etc ,etc
Is this ROMs/Bootloader thing really necessary to have ? I mean the factory ROMS arnt worth it or what, does it have bugs ? Does it Lags ?
SGSII was my first choice but it is very expensive and isnt durable at all plastic body and very thin, i like SLCD on IS much better screen, speed, camera, battery, durability, games, thats all i want on a phone and i guess IS has it all, doesnt matter to me if it is locked on unlocked as it will be my first time with Android i dont have any idea about these things.
Arc is also expensive, IS and Neo are the only mobile phones (i guess) in this price range which are rich in features.
I will be getting the Neo. Camera and esspecially video is much better and of course HDMI out port is awesome. I dont like capacitive buttons (esspecially if their lightning is crappy).
xperia is way better
neo is just awesome i have it !!!!!!!!
my dad has the is its good but neo nails the **** out of it
l0st.prophet said:
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't you do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Neo so I can't compare the two two, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the arc is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing oi would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
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I agree with you but consider this - MOST of us want to help, but don't have the skills to actually provide any help. We all are impatiently waiting to get ROOT, flash ROMs and KERNELs, that we forget that it's not easy to find exploits, especially when a company like HTC spent so much money on creating the flag in the first place. (PS - What's the status on the exploit???)
Now, about the phones - the bootloader is the ONLY ONE FEATURE IN NEO, and that doesn't mean squat unless you wanna root, which I'm pretty sure you won't be doing, whereas the IS has a gr8 body, HTC Sense(which beats the crap outta sony's UI), and loads of other stuff. GET THAT FOR SURE !!!!!!!!
What about the samsung infuse
I would personally stay away from all Sony Xperia series phones. I own an Arc and can't stand the way it handles memory. They all look good spec wise. Unfortunately they don't live up to expectations (at least in my opinion). I have 2 Incredible S and they perform way better. If you don't like SenseUI, you can just use a custom rom.
Hi guys,
i am thinking to buy optimus 2x or desire s. (they both cost almost the same, minor diff), i dont even dare call optimus 2x a phone anymore
desire s:
cool looking, metal body, great size,
BUT sucky camera, non rootable without xtc clip, no devs working on it, and some battery cover problems (squeaky)
optimus 2x:
LOTS of devs (which im hoping will fix the reboot issue), CM (yeaa!), great camera, hardware etc...
BUT its rebooting, getting very hot (for many), screen backlight bleeding and generaly unstable phone... my only gripes with it.
im so lost. any advice is VERY appreciated
The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.
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The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.
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and if i may ask, for how long have you had your o2x ?
Looolll.
Is like comparing a Toyota with a Ferrari....
Ofcourse LG O2X.
I have mine since day one of release.
Some times (once a week or in 2 weeks) BSOD.
Phone never gets warm or what so ever.
Kept it stock for a long time. Rooted my phone like 2 weeks ago.
Just for Adfree, nothing else.
Had mine for a week. Stabile as rock! Not one reboot. No heat issues.
I have frozen antivirus and drivemehome (perhaps those who make the device reboot??)
My battery is good for 2 days with moderate use on 2G network. Have disabled 3G...
The backlight bleeding is a problem with all LCD screen more or less. I dont know why you want to stare at the screen while its pitch black in a room without light... I have some bleeding, but never bothers me. It is usually something to see in the screen
and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option
xilw3r said:
and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option
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Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.
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Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.
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I would do the opposite actually. Using the phone will give you no issues, it's only when left alone that the problems occur.
I seriously wouldn't risk this phone to be honest. You're guaranteed to have issues in one way or another, and you shouldn't have to root and void your warranty to get a reliable phone.
IMHO, if you can wait, I would suggest waiting 6 weeks to 2 months to see how the dual-core phone scene pans out. I think gingerbread would likely be on LG2X by then, as would improved stability on other dual-core phones as well. Also, like all electronic products, the longer you wait to buy - the cheaper they become.
keep in mind that some people had the O2X for 3 weeks before they started getting reboots/ freezes and BSOD. Just saying
Just you wait a little more while. CM7 will be as stable as a rock soon enough.
IMO. The Desire S should be around 2/3 the price of O2X to make it any worthy compared to O2X. It's just an upgraded version of the original Desire with a high pricetag.
The desire and incredible s work out of the box though. Without random reboots and freezes. If you just want a phone that works, I would go with the desire.
The 2x is great hardware for the money, but hardware isn't everything. I'm saying if you were concerned about problems, this really isn't the handset for you. Because you are 99% guaranteed to have issues.
If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
It still hasn't been fully determined if anyone running stock, no root, no changes haven't had issues. Checking the various threads, I can't see anyone using stock that doesn't have issues. Most have either rooted and frozen apps, or put a complete new rom on.
If there are people running stock and don't have issues, they are a minority at best.
The op is saying a return isn't really an option to them. If so, then look elsewhere.
I hacked the **** out of it. And I love it. I could get an sgs2 but I didnt and thats saying a lot.
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Go for the o2x really great phone, had mine since day 1 and its never let me down, really glad i choose this over both desire s and sgs2
Hope this helps u decide, and let us know what u get.
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thanks guys. idk, i think im more leaning towards optimus 2x now, cuz of CM mostly, but then again, the size is kinda huge especially for a 4 inch screen.
and 1 more question, hows the audio quality through headphones ? i read in gsmarena that stereo crosstalk is pretty awful, what do you people think ? its kind of important cuz i always use my phone as a music player
Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
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Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)
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lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
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You're not the only one!
xilw3r said:
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)
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I've found the call quality to be fine - in quiet situations, it's excellent, in noise situations it's fine. I've not used the handsfree, so don't know how calls are through headphones, but music is aok .
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but music is aok .
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thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?
Np - I use my own - Goldring NS1000.
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thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?
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Ok so right now am looking for a phone to buy.
And had the droid x
And droid charge.
So my question is would anybody recommend the d3?
And how is the development for the d3 look in the future?
I heard about motorola unlocking the bootloader but when the day comes, will they only provide it with the new phones? Or would it be like an update?
Absolutely would recommend!
I wholeheartedly recommend the D3 - especially if you are looking for a physical keyboard.
Development is well under way and there are now at least 2 full working ROMs. I've tried both Steel Droid and Monster and both are great - i find monster to be faster and thats my preference.
When I first got the phone, I was pretty bummed that the locked bootloader had put a huge damper on development. Ever since root has been acheived, however, things have been much better and you could not pry my D3 from my cold dead hands.
I hear that Blur is much better than previous iterations, but I use launcher pro so I don't use blur at all.
heres a link to the ROM, Mods and Themes thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289611
As much as I like my D3, I would not recommend it to anyone looking to get a new phone. unless you absolutely need a keyboard, I would wait for either the Droid Razr or Galaxy Nexus. Both will have better hardware and FAR better screens and will be LTE.
I got a D3 yesterday, after having the D1 the last two years. After about 20 hours using it, I love it. I really dig how fast it is, and the larger screen is nice too.
As soon as I got it home, I rooted it and ran the scripts to remove the VZW apps. I really don't see a need to flash a ROM since this D3 runs so smoothly already. I'd like to edit some PNG files here and there, and that will probably be about it for me. I remember the constant flashing of ROM's, SBF files, and themes on my D1. This time around, I'm really not looking forward to that. It feels to me like VZW and Motorola did a great job with the device as is once you skim off the bloatware.
Like SrulDog, I switched to LP immediately. I've been using LP since about the time it was released, so I am very comfortable with it. It runs great on the D3 too.
I say go for it. I don't know how it compares to the Droids you have owned, but I know it is much better than the D1.
-Mike
kishin14 said:
As much as I like my D3, I would not recommend it to anyone looking to get a new phone. unless you absolutely need a keyboard, I would wait for either the Droid Razr or Galaxy Nexus. Both will have better hardware and FAR better screens and will be LTE.
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Sure the screen looks crap sometimes. But I'm standing in direct sunlight in 100 degree weather right now and I can see every detail on it. Try that on an AMOLED.
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I have had this phone for a couple weeks and I am enjoying it. I had an OG Droid that the screen crapped out on me so this was nice because it works! I am used to the hardware keyboard on a Blackberry Tour/Bold 9650 but that's personal preference. I am getting used to this one though and I can fly on it so I guess it's pretty good for a keyboard.
A couple things I have done are root, freeze a few apps like VCast and run Autokiller at Strict, and the phone is as smooth as butter now. It has the same hardware as the Bionic really so I mean it's as high end as you can get. If you want 4G then as mentioned you should wait, but I have been getting great 3G speeds and yes I have to wait for the Market apps to download a little but it's a lot faster than it has been in the past with my OG Droid.
Well 4g isent really a biggy for me.
More like.batterry life and great rom features really
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Sure the screen looks crap sometimes. But I'm standing in direct sunlight in 100 degree weather right now and I can see every detail on it. Try that on an AMOLED.
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Great responses here! This is why I love XDA! To answer the question…yes, I would definitely recommend getting a DVD for all the reasons given above. Dev work is going well, CM7 is on the way, and we MAY have an AOSP rom by the weekend (permissions to port pending). The physical keyboard is outstanding, and the screen is good. Even though colors are a bit washed out, being able to view the screen in direct sunlight, with no issues, is a massive bonus. If you don't need the keyboard, and can wait a little while, I would jump all over the Nexus Prime/ galaxy Nexus/ whatever they're calling that 4.65" piece of sexiness! Either way, you'll end up satisfied imo.
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The biggest bugger for me is the lack of RAM. Phone would have been a whole lot better if it had 1GB ram instead 512MB only. The screen is a letdown IMO, but indeed is great in the sun and also better on the battery.
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Aside from the occasional issues from being in Australia, I must say I recommend the Droid 3. It's excellent!
I still fail to see what the lack of ram is holding us back from. But I've already convinced pne person to buy this phone, and they text me damn near everyday to thank me.
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Two years ago the Milestone was an awesome terminal for its time.
Nice design, perfect size, one of the best display ever seen, incredibly good audio quality and decent CPU power.
The only drawbacks were the horrible battery life, the cheap keyboard and the crap camera.
The D3, although can't be considered a bad phone, is the shadow of what the MS1 was.
The performances (I mean the real ones, not the benchmarks) aren't on par with one years old phones, the crap camera and the poor battery life are still there, the keyboard is improved but is still built like a toy, while the phone grown more than the display, the display went from the best available to the worst ever seen, the signal sensitivity went from the top to the "below the average". The audio quality, while better than the HTC phones is not on par with the motorola ancestors.
As I already said, my Desire Z (aka G2) was a better phone in any area, excluding the audio level and the lack of the numeric ROW.
From my point of view was a boring phone, everything worked from the beginning, good battery life, great photos, super stable system, good keyboard, and fantastic tethering capabilities.
The display was also good, not as the one on the Milestone 1, but light years better than the Droid 3's one.
All in all I suggest to buy the D3 only if you can get a very good deal.
If you like a ready to go smartphone, a DZ/G2 is still a way better choice, especially considering its today average price.
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I still fail to see what the lack of ram is holding us back from.
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i think people come from older phones and get hung up on the numbers when with a better processor and other amenities a 'low' RAM really isn't a factor and can actually make the phone faster with everything cached and saved to the system memory. I don't even check the RAM since i've never had an issue with slow or choppy speed.
Also i go a whole day with my phone and end with 30% battery at the end of the day. i use it heavy while im out, not as much when home from work but even then i come home with 50-40% battery. I'm not sure what you guys are doing to get poor battery life.
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I'm not sure what you guys are doing to get poor battery life.
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Usually just using it on modern networks.
The motorola basebands are usually poor (especially on the erly releases), and the power drain has a lot of variation depending on the generation and the make of the BTS/node-b, whatever.
Just for example when I got the milestone 1, with the initial firmware tha battery lasted less than six hour with a vodafone SIM, and almost a day with a three SIM.
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Usually just using it on modern networks.
The motorola basebands are usually poor (especially on the erly releases), and the power drain has a lot of variation depending on the generation and the make of the BTS/node-b, whatever.
Just for example when I got the milestone 1, with the initial firmware tha battery lasted less than six hour with a vodafone SIM, and almost a day with a three SIM.
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Idk I hear people on Verizon say the same thing and we get pretty good service just about everywhere. sure at my old job where I was tucked in the basement my phone would die quickly but I couldnt blame that on the phone or the software, like you said it's the radio trying to get signal. I think it more depends on the user and how they use the phone/what services they run.
I had installed Juice Defender originally because i thought it would increase battery life, but i turn my screen on and off so much that it actually drained more battery from turning data off and on all the time, so now i only use it to automatically enable wifi when i'm home and turn off data while i'm asleep. maybe something like that could help you out?
All in all I think the D3 is one of the best Android options out. Plus i'm petty and like the fact that not everyone around here has one since it didn't seem to get a bunch of publicity...people still ask me 'What phone is that???"
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I had installed Juice Defender originally because i thought it would increase battery life, but i turn my screen on and off so much that it actually drained more battery from turning data off and on all the time, so now i only use it to automatically enable wifi when i'm home and turn off data while i'm asleep. maybe something like that could help you out?
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When I bought the MS1 "wi sync plus" was the program that saved the ms1 form a jump out of the window.
Btw i never tried any wi sync+ clone, like juice defender.
I'm about to purchased D3 today. Too bad it's hard to find one here. Already ask the seller to check with the supplier if there is any. I only found Motorola Atrix at one single shop here.
This is definitely my choice right now. In my opinion, 512MB RAM is enough for a dual core 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 SoC processor. PowerVR SGX540 is just nice, too bad that it only support OpenGL 2.0 and not DirectX as in Playstation Vita with PowerVR SGX543.
QWERTY keyboard has improved a lot this time. It had HDMI Type-D, Physical Button for Camera & Sound Volume & Micro-USB. I really hope it will get ICS update when it release and capable of USB Host. Another thing is that Motorola had been bought by Google, I believe Motorola will have latest update every time new Android version released. I hope so
One thing that make me stay away from Samsung Galaxy S2 is that it had one single port Micro USB for everything(HDMI through MHL, USB data, USB Charging, USB Host)
If i use HDMI output, then I cannot use USB Host at the same time. I wonder if the USB Host adapter connected to USB Hub, can it handle and recognize multiple device such as keyboard, mouse,game controller,USB Pendrive etc?
Yeah, but the way I understand it, even the phones that have 1gb of RAM right now (Atrix, Bionic) dont really have 1gb because 512mb is locked to be used with Webtop. And so far as I have been able to find, no other phone has more than 512mb right now. Can anyone confirm?
This mattered to me because I have an Atrix right now on AT&T and I absolutely love the phone, but can't take the ****ty service everywhere anymore, have to switch to Verizon. I had basically three phones I was looking at in the Amazon penny sale, D3, Bionic and the new Samsung qwerty, Supernova or something. So, if the above is right, the D3 I'm getting is essentially the same phone as my Atrix now without Webtop (don't care) or 4g (not here for years, boucou wifi) but with a physical kb, which actually makes it way better. I actually really, really like Gingerblur, and if it's slow I dig Launcherpro, so I should be good, yeah?
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This. Coming from an Atrix getting HDMI mirroring will be a big deal to me; I didn't buy any docks and haven't rooted or reflashed other than official 2.3 update, so the only thing I ever get over HDMI is the media player interface. Which is cool, but I want something else.
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Hi guys,
It's very simple question. I want to buy again i9000 (for my gf, uses Xperia J currently) and my question is: does it work well and smooth?
I have checked some videos, but I would like to know your thoughts as videos are not reliable.
Thanks!
Yes it is .Not only cm11 , almost all kitkat roms are smooth. The only problem,for me at least, is the battery and the incoming call lag...2 sec delay.
Two weeks ago it wasn't smooth enough for me while using some apps. But now it's really fast. But do not use the latest nightlies as there is a bug with vídeo playback, which is broken.
Taranis said:
Hi guys,
It's very simple question. I want to buy again i9000 (for my gf, uses Xperia J currently) and my question is: does it work well and smooth?
I have checked some videos, but I would like to know your thoughts as videos are not reliable.
Thanks!
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I think that SGS 2 is so much better choice.It is really faster with 2 cores processor,really better camera,good cpu and ram.
And it is not to expensive.
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I think that SGS 2 is so much better choice.It is really faster with 2 cores processor,really better camera,good cpu and ram.
And it is not to expensive.
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I would not buy s1 you should upgrade and buy the cheap moto g or x dont know which one is cheaper.
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Hi guys,
I understand it is weird to do such "upgrade", but me and my gf does not really have money for new phone. We don't want to spend more than about 50 USD more. SGS costs about 80 USD in Poland, used. SGS2 is much too expensive. I'll try to find a bit more expensive dual-core phone.
Our device is 4 years old. SGS is not a bad phone and I will keep using mine until it dies.
I would still recommend getting something better. Remember that if you buy used phone you might need to buy new battery($10-15) and the headphone jack might be worn. Also some (early?) SGS phones have hardware GPS flaw(Mine has it). It can be fixed at home with some effort(search XDA for the final fix). The AMOLED screen is also a little worn(4 years...). In gray backgrounds you can see how the different subpixel colours have worn at different rate. It doesn't affect anything though just cosmetic stuff.
Galaxy S Advance bought! CM11 should be rock-solid and fast. Thanks!