Hello,
I want to get a Moto X for Europe.
1. as a non-Sprint customer, can I unlock the phone for Europe usage?
2. if No, can I get a carrier-unlocked phone from moto maker?
3. if yes, can someone help me out with a code?
Notes:
It's urgent because I have to ship it in the next days to arrive in time.
I have a US address and CC.
Thanks a bunch!
I don't think you want a Sprint phone at all. What bands do your providers use for HSPA/UMTS/WCDMA and for LTE?
With that information we can suggest the best Moto X variant to purchase.
If your CC isn't issued in the US. You won't be able to purchase. Buying the model depends on which bands your carrier support for LTE if that is a concern for you. The T Mobile Moto X from their website comes carrier unlocked with no branding. And it's LTE bands are 2,4 & 17. AT&T model supports the most LTE bands. I don't recall all of them Wikipedia should help with that.
I'm assuming you're are buying from MotoMaker to get a customized one?
You can take the route of buying from eBay if the above is not the case, where sellers sell the unlocked AT&T variant which is the Mobile Nextel version? (I think), but no option to customize colors.
By the way why did you want the Sprint version?
Sent from my Moto X
RenSoAbrupt said:
If your CC isn't issued in the US. You won't be able to purchase. Buying the model depends on which bands your carrier support for LTE if that is a concern for you. The T Mobile Moto X from their website comes carrier unlocked with no branding. And it's LTE bands are 2,4 & 17. AT&T model supports the most LTE bands. I don't recall all of them Wikipedia should help with that.
I'm assuming you're are buying from MotoMaker to get a customized one?
You can take the route of buying from eBay if the above is not the case, where sellers sell the unlocked AT&T variant which is the Mobile Nextel version? (I think), but no option to customize colors.
By the way why did you want the Sprint version?
Sent from my Moto X
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I did take the ebay route, and after so much digging about several models, I just decided to get the Moto X, and found a good price for it. I also checked that it can be carrier unlocked, but didn't know it's not for all carriers. So I didn't check if you can unlock Sprint or not.
Sad thing is, I already won the bid for the phone. And now I don't know what to do, because if I pay for it, I will have an unusable phone in my country .
I'd order from the MotoMaker (friend of mine has US CC), but the price is a bit high for me there. That's why I asked if someone maybe has a $150 off code, I saw people offering.
What do you suggest?
Steve-x said:
I don't think you want a Sprint phone at all. What bands do your providers use for HSPA/UMTS/WCDMA and for LTE?
With that information we can suggest the best Moto X variant to purchase.
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Here are the bands, if the image is not showing for you: https://www.dropbox.com/s/41dapiaxppa5w72/Capture.PNG
If you have a friend in the US that would be the best route.
Mines were unable to buy mines for me because the thought it would of been to much of a hassle.
I live in The Bahamas and had to buy mines through a US parcel forwarding Personal shopper service. Which in turn still turned out better than buying from eBay or Swappa. Reason being is that I got to customize it to my liking of colors and I got more memory for the money.
As for a code, surely someone around here has one they will give you for free. Or you can go to AndroidCentral to try your luck there, but for the most part users of XDA have some at their disposal.
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Your best bet is to purchase a tmobile version of the phone, it will not be simlocked. The Sprint versions are simlocked and I only Sprint seems to be able to unlock them.
I don't think any version of the phone will get you LTE, you may get HSPA (3G) but it is tough to confirm without having any true band numbers to compare to as several bands are similar in the US and other countries but aren't quite the same.
If you do have a US friend who can and will order a phone with a US credit card I do have a code to share. I just want to make sure the code gets used.
Steve-x said:
Your best bet is to purchase a tmobile version of the phone, it will not be simlocked. The Sprint versions are simlocked and I only Sprint seems to be able to unlock them.
I don't think any version of the phone will get you LTE, you may get HSPA (3G) but it is tough to confirm without having any true band numbers to compare to as several bands are similar in the US and other countries but aren't quite the same.
If you do have a US friend who can and will order a phone with a US credit card I do have a code to share. I just want to make sure the code gets used.
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Thank you for the info, I already got a code. I hope it's a valid one, since I can't try it out now, only when my friend comes online.
TheSaw said:
Thank you for the info, I already got a code. I hope it's a valid one, since I can't try it out now, only when my friend comes online.
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how di you get it? it unlock it? i have the same problem more or less,i bought and sprint moto x in Ebay but i can't unlock it to gsm,i called sprint but they said i need to have an active account.
thecj said:
how di you get it? it unlock it? i have the same problem more or less,i bought and sprint moto x in Ebay but i can't unlock it to gsm,i called sprint but they said i need to have an active account.
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I bought the TMO version. I don't think you can unlock Sprint for GSM.
EDIT: Afaik, you need to been on Sprint fo 90 days to get it unlocked. Maybe you can talk to them, and ask the exact conditions. I couldn't do this, because I don't live in the US. My best option was to get the TMO version, even if it's more expensive. This is unlocked by default, and works in Europe. It's like the developer edition.
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I just received my XT883 (Chinese version) of the Droid 3 from an ebay seller in Hong Kong.
I am in USA.
I popped my T-Mobile USA sim card in but didn't get any network.
When I try to make a call, the phone dials and gives me a message welcome to Verizon, and they
will direct me to an operator to take a credit card for the phone charges.
Also weird is that there are Verizon logos on the front and back of this phone.
I didn't think they should be there since Verizon isn't in China.
When I remove the battery, the sticker inside says XT883.
The software details are as follows:
System version 5.6.890.XT862 Verizon.en.US
Android version 2.3.4
Baseband N_03.18.29P
Kernel version 2.6.35.7-g790a33c
[email protected] #1
build number 5.5.1_84_D3G-55
Besides for all this, the phone seems to be loaded with Verizon bloatware.
I can use wifi, but not gprs.
To make matters more confusing, there was a T-mobile outage in my area that they said could last
up to 72 hours, and they were having all kinds of network and computer issues today. There is a small chance that
this might account for my inability to get phone signal. Bad timing.
What do you guys make of this?
Did they flash the phone with the wrong rom?
If it has Verizon logos on it and the system version has XT862 in it, its a regular US Droid 3. The XT862 can be unlocked for Tmobile but won't work without modification. I assume you knew that already and thats why you wanted to get a XT883.
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If it has Verizon logos on it and the system version has XT862 in it, its a regular US Droid 3. The XT862 can be unlocked for Tmobile but won't work without modification. I assume you knew that already and thats why you wanted to get a XT883.
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Actually I had no idea it was a Verizon branded phone. The photo in the ebay ad and the ad itself didn't show or mention Verizon.
I assumed this was an XT883 Rom and radio that was fully unlocked for GSM and internet here in the USA. That's what the ad said.
Besides, this came from China, and the system sticker under the battery says it is an XT883. So how could it be a US 862?
Anyway, I am new to Android so can you give me some advise on how I can fix this-the easiest way?
Based on the details I listed, was it flashed wrong?
Thanks for your help.
Which keyboard does yours have?
This is the US Droid 3 XT862. Notice the orange symbol keys and the microphone key. Also notice the verizon logo, its possible the battery cover could have been swapped on yours, but the verizon logo on the front would only appear on a US model.
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This is the XT883, notice the blue lettering on the symbols and the character key where the microphone is on the XT862. Also notice the lack of Verizon logo.
If you were sold an XT862 when the listing shows a XT883 in the title and images then I would contact the seller.
spunker88 said:
Which keyboard does yours have?
This is the US Droid 3 XT862. Notice the orange symbol keys and the microphone key. Also notice the verizon logo, its possible the battery cover could have been swapped on yours, but the verizon logo on the front would only appear on a US model.
This is the XT883, notice the blue lettering on the symbols and the character key where the microphone is on the XT862. Also notice the lack of Verizon logo.
If you were sold an XT862 when the listing shows a XT883 in the title and images then I would contact the seller.
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Hey Spunker,
Thanks for your quick reply.
I have the top one with orange lettering on the symbols.
They must have replaced the sticker on the inside of the unit
Stupid bastards-Vendor name is: cellphoneforever
Best to stay away from them.
Is there any easy way to change my unit to run on GSM?
Joe
I'd say you definitely have the XT862, both software and hardware confirm it. As far as the sticker it may have been placed there by the seller? Ive never done it since Im on Verizon but there is a way to unlock the XT862 for At&t/Tmobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406812
I've done it and it works good.
Sent from my XT883 using xda app-developers app
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I'd say you definitely have the XT862, both software and hardware confirm it. As far as the sticker it may have been placed there by the seller? Ive never done it since Im on Verizon but there is a way to unlock the XT862 for At&t/Tmobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406812
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Guys thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.
This method requires I buy an unlock code, which may or may not work.
I'm not sure I want to invest more money this way. Also, the link for rooting
says that method no longer works.
This Ebay seller really ripped me off. In fact they are still running auctions for unlocked
XT883, but in looking at their feedback I now see they have ripped off over 1,000 people
in the past year. surprised Ebay allows this to happen.
Mr. O, how did you unlock your XT862?
Again thanks for the assistance.
Joe_PDA said:
Guys thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.
This method requires I buy an unlock code, which may or may not work.
I'm not sure I want to invest more money this way. Also, the link for rooting
says that method no longer works.
This Ebay seller really ripped me off. In fact they are still running auctions for unlocked
XT883, but in looking at their feedback I now see they have ripped off over 1,000 people
in the past year. surprised Ebay allows this to happen.
Mr. O, how did you unlock your XT862?
Again thanks for the assistance.
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I purchased an unlock code from unlock4moto.com for $6 and it worked perfectly.
I payed some $5 for a unlock code fron cellunlockerpro. Worked perfectly.
Joe_PDA said:
Guys thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.
This method requires I buy an unlock code, which may or may not work.
I'm not sure I want to invest more money this way. Also, the link for rooting
says that method no longer works.
This Ebay seller really ripped me off. In fact they are still running auctions for unlocked
XT883, but in looking at their feedback I now see they have ripped off over 1,000 people
in the past year. surprised Ebay allows this to happen.
Mr. O, how did you unlock your XT862?
Again thanks for the assistance.
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Hey. If you purchased it recently, it sounds like you're protected under your bidding rights, especially as the phone itself seems a bit fixed. ;] I haven't looked into the seller just yet, but throwing this up in the off chance this is read before I have the time to look at the bidding items.
How did you pay for the item? If you used PayPal, that makes it a bit easier. Just contact them/eBay, there should be a link or I can try and scrounge one up if you need it. I usually call PayPal directly if I have issues because they're super friendly and usually point you in the right direction.
Definitely something very deceptive going on if the internal label says XT883.
Something does not sound right if you placed your T-Mobile SIM in the phone and it did not ask you for unlock code. It may already be unlocked or it could be permanently SIM locked if someone else attempted to unlock it too many times.
They may have sold you some used or refurbished Verizon model and placed a counterfeit label on it.
I would definitely file with ebay against this seller and just get your money back.
If you really want to try and use this Verizon XT862, I would recommend the unlock procedure using the newer radio and build.prop in post #196 of the unlock thread.
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to buy a Motorola Moto X phone from US through the official Moto Maker site.
At checkout, I would still need to choose a carrier. I'm planning to choose one of the GSM providers (AT&T or T-Mobile) with the ‘No contract’ option.
As far as I know, the phone would still be locked to the carrier chosen. So, does that mean that the phone will be unusable outside of the US?
I spoke to a couple of Motorola agents and I got contrasting views-
One of them said, the phone would be locked to the opted carrier in the US. But elsewhere the phone could be used with any GSM sim.
The other agent said, the phone will not be usable with any SIM apart from the opted carrier, till the phone is unlocked using an unlock subsidy code obtained from the carrier.
So, what is this about Locked and No Contract phones? Also I read in the AT&T's and T-Mo's site that they would provide a unlock code after 60 and 40 days respectively.
And, any processes to be followed before taking it out of US to use with a local carrier in other countries? Like Activation etc.,
Any suggestions or thoughts would be of great help. Thanks!
sriv.droid said:
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to buy a Motorola Moto X phone from US through the official Moto Maker site.
At checkout, I would still need to choose a carrier. I'm planning to choose one of the GSM providers (AT&T or T-Mobile) with the ‘No contract’ option.
As far as I know, the phone would still be locked to the carrier chosen. So, does that mean that the phone will be unusable outside of the US?
I spoke to a couple of Motorola agents and I got contrasting views-
One of them said, the phone would be locked to the opted carrier in the US. But elsewhere the phone could be used with any GSM sim.
The other agent said, the phone will not be usable with any SIM apart from the opted carrier, till the phone is unlocked using an unlock subsidy code obtained from the carrier.
So, what is this about Locked and No Contract phones? Also I read in the AT&T's and T-Mo's site that they would provide a unlock code after 60 and 40 days respectively.
And, any processes to be followed before taking it out of US to use with a local carrier in other countries? Like Activation etc.,
Any suggestions or thoughts would be of great help. Thanks!
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ok... so this is the deal with an AT&T Motox X off contract. It will still be carrier locked out of the box. I talked to AT&T and they said that in order to unlock it there has to be a least 60 days of AT&T service on the phone.... i think its ridiculous...!!
was planning to buy it and bring it to Germany... but wont work out of the box...
I think TMobile version is carrier unlocked.
jzsax1 said:
ok... so this is the deal with an AT&T Motox X off contract. It will still be carrier locked out of the box. I talked to AT&T and they said that in order to unlock it there has to be a least 60 days of AT&T service on the phone.... i think its ridiculous...!!
was planning to buy it and bring it to Germany... but wont work out of the box...
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Hmm.. Seems so! I too feel it is ridiculous. What if someone from US buys it and ends up going abroad for a vacation more than 40 days. How do they keep the service active?
sriv.droid said:
Hmm.. Seems so! I too feel it is ridiculous. What if someone from US buys it and ends up going abroad for a vacation more than 40 days. How do they keep the service active?
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The T-Mobile version is carrier unlocked. I may be getting the Moto X from the US but primarily will use it in India for the immediate future.
DrZen said:
The T-Mobile version is carrier unlocked. I may be getting the Moto X from the US but primarily will use it in India for the immediate future.
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Thanks for the info.
Is any activation required with the T-Mo sim before it can be used elsewhere? Or can the phone be directly used out of the box?
sriv.droid said:
Thanks for the info.
Is any activation required with the T-Mo sim before it can be used elsewhere? Or can the phone be directly used out of the box?
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No activation, straight up unlocked.
EDIT: In the event that I'm wrong, it's easy enough to unlock via a code for not much cash.
DrZen said:
No activation, straight up unlocked.
EDIT: In the event that I'm wrong, it's easy enough to unlock via a code for not much cash.
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Thanks! Hope it works that way
Help!!
I have received my MotoX with a T-Mo SIM.
The device indicated that a an OS update is available. But 'm not able to update it over WiFi.
Should the device be ACTIVATED with T-Mo SIM?
Repair/Service in India
sriv.droid said:
Thanks! Hope it works that way
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
Do you know if I take an unlocked Moto X bought from the US (via the Motorola Maker Website) to India, will I be able to get service in India, or do I need to bring it back to the US if I have any issues?
I'm worried about such things as broken screen, repairs, battery replacement, etc...
Any help you or anyone could give regarding this would be greatly appreciated.
Moto X help needed
Hey guys.. I'm planning to get a Moto X, but in India we dont have the option for the 32 Gb variant and neither do we get the Moto Maker... Does anyone have any info regarding whther these features would be available in the future, and that i could wait for it? Or is it better to get it shipped from the US via a friend/cousin??
Hello everyone,
As you all know there was a sale just for one day on Moto X over in US, I ordered the 32gb version for myself. As I am in India and will be using this phone here, on the choose a carrier page i selected: GSM Unlocked (includes T-Mobile Sim) option.
My question is: Will this phone support the Indian Sim? Also does this phone support LTE? And which version (AT&T or T-Mobile) will I get as below GSM Unlocked, it`s written AT&T and T-Mobile 4G LTE with Global HSPA?
Which one is better in terms of future software updates?
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Iam about o buy a MOTO X with GSM Unlocked provided by NET10 Carrier in US. will this mobile work with my vodafone carrier in INDIA.
Expected answers in a day
thanks in Advance
From what I've been reading, the X from net10 is the XT1053 GSM Unlocked version,. It is SIM unlocked and should be bootloader unlockable.
If that is true, then similar to the GSM Unlocked XT1053 and Developer Edition XT1053, the Net10 X will support the following frequencies...
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ : 850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
LTE: 700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2)
If your carrier uses those, then the phone will work. If you've seen threads talking about the USA Dev Edition, or GSM Unlocked Edition being used in India, then it will work.
This thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/moto-x-indian-thread-pricing-t2662264 seems to indicate the XT1052 is being sold/used in India... Based on Wikipedia, the XT1052 supports different LTE bands, and there is a slight difference in the UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ support.
KidJoe said:
From what I've been reading, the X from net10 is the XT1053 GSM Unlocked version,. It is SIM unlocked and should be bootloader unlockable.
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Not doubting you, but do you have source for this? Everything I've been reading has left the model number out. If it is an XT1053, that would be awesome, but I don't want to buy the phone and find out it has Net10 firmware on it.
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Not doubting you, but do you have source for this? Everything I've been reading has left the model number out. If it is an XT1053, that would be awesome, but I don't want to buy the phone and find out it has Net10 firmware on it.
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Sorry, I thought this AndroidPolice article said the model -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/07/09/deal-alert-moto-x-on-net-10-is-299-100-off-until-july-16th/
but apparently it was discussion in the comments... does not appear confirmed.
THe Moto Maker web site calls it GSM Unlocked includes Net10 Wireless SIM... hence the speculation its the same XT1053 GSM Unlocked but includes a Net10 sim rather than T-Mobile.
I may just take a chance on ordering it, and if it isn't an XT1053 i'll just return it for a refund.
Any update on this? Want to get one for tmobile.
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I ordered one and will let you all know. I live in Colorado so hopefully it comes quick from Texas.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404256
Questions go in the Q&A section.
For what its worth... Found this just now on Motorolas Twitter.
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Got my moto today, Confirmed that it's a xt1053.
Came with 4.4.3. If I unlock the boot loader is there a root method available for 4.4.3?
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dobbs3x said:
Came with 4.4.3. If I unlock the boot loader is there a root method available for 4.4.3?
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Only towel root as far as i know....and don't think it works right without pie.
I might be wrong, never needed any of it. Lol
And you can't downgrade....but you probably know that. ?
I was able to flash twrp via fastboot and then install supersu no problem and now rooted.
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Only towel root as far as i know....and don't think it works right without pie.
I might be wrong, never needed any of it. Lol
And you can't downgrade....but you probably know that. ?
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I was able to flash twrp via fastboot and then install supersu no problem and now rooted.
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So you were able to get the unlock code from the official moto website? If so, that is great news!
Some of us were wondering if net10 would allow moto to give the codes out for phones purchased as 'net10' phones, since most of domestic carriers don't allow it (exception being t-mobile).
samwathegreat said:
So you were able to get the unlock code from the official moto website? If so, that is great news!
Some of us were wondering if net10 would allow moto to give the codes out for phones purchased as 'net10' phones, since most of domestic carriers don't allow it (exception being t-mobile).
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Yes I was able to get the unlock code. Also of interesting note is the first pamphlet inside the moto x box was a quick instruction on how to activate the phone and it had tmobile information and numbers to call haha.
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I was able to flash twrp via fastboot and then install supersu no problem and now rooted.
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My bad... I was distracted when I replied....missed the unlocked bootloader part. Lol
Don't mind me. [emoji43]
I also had to make a trip to T-Mobile to get a nano Sim card since my note 3 used micro Sim card and wouldn't fit obviously. Anyone wanna by a brand new unopened net 10 Sim lol.
dobbs3x said:
I also had to make a trip to T-Mobile to get a nano Sim card since my note 3 used micro Sim card and wouldn't fit obviously. Anyone wanna by a brand new unopened net 10 Sim lol.
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Just FYI, you can use scissors to cut any size SIM down to micro or nano (I've done it successfully multiple times). There is a lady at the mall kiosk that does exactly that (doesn't even use one of the SIM-Cutting machines that you can get on Amazon for only a few bucks...) LOL! And she charges $10 to do it!! haha
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Just FYI, you can use scissors to cut any size SIM down to micro or nano (I've done it successfully multiple times). There is a lady at the mall kiosk that does exactly that (doesn't even use one of the SIM-Cutting machines that you can get on Amazon for only a few bucks...) LOL! And she charges $10 to do it!! haha
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Hmm, never even crossed my mind to try that. I paid 9.99 for it at the T-Mobile store so not too bad, but yes, free is better.
I didn't see this answer when I searched so I hope this helps the next guy.
Bought a Verizon moto x 2nd Gen on Craigslist and not only is it working great on T-Mobile, but lte worked out of the box too. What a nice surprise.
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Which model ?
chrisrozon said:
Which model ?
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Verizon Moto X 2014 = XT1096
Cool. Are voice and SMS/MMS working too?
chrisrozon said:
Cool. Are voice and SMS/MMS working too?
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Yes, everything works perfect.
every verizon "LTE" phones work for att tmobile out of the box...they're all unlocked bc they need the gsm radio for their lte network...no matter which phone ( lg, moto, htc, if its verizon lte itll work for att nd tmobile
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Yes, everything works perfect.
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im abroad and used local carrier on xt1096, all working perfect, except wifi thetering
actually wifi theter working and can be conected with another devices but there's no internet data
how bout yours?
crazy4android said:
every verizon "LTE" phones work for att tmobile out of the box...they're all unlocked bc they need the gsm radio for their lte network...no matter which phone ( lg, moto, htc, if its verizon lte itll work for att nd tmobile
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This is true but not all do lte. It seems to be hit and miss by device.
It seems to depend on the area you're in and the band that your specific carrier uses there.
For example I used to get LTE in a certain area of the city but only H+ when I was at home.
Has anyone used the Verizon version on at&t to confirm if lte works?
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Has anyone used the Verizon version on at&t to confirm if lte works?
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Just wondering if your Verizon Moto X (2014) is able to get software updates? Also, what about certain features like Wi-Fi calling? I am thinking about a factory refurbished Verizon Moto X (2014) for $259, but wanted to hear a bit more about your experience. Thanks so much!
Dan
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Just wondering if your Verizon Moto X (2014) is able to get software updates? Also, what about certain features like Wi-Fi calling? I am thinking about a factory refurbished Verizon Moto X (2014) for $259, but wanted to hear a bit more about your experience. Thanks so much!
Dan
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Wifi calling was a negative. No idea about software updates. Was fully updated when I got it. I no longer have it, sold it and got a pure edition since I switched to cricket and wanted lte.
I just tried the same model Verizon Moto X 2nd gen on ATT Straight talk and can confirm I get edge, H+ and Lte Bands all working perfect. No need to even mess with apn for MMS. Love this phone.
Is the bootloader still locked down?
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Software updates
d11dog11 said:
Wifi calling was a negative. No idea about software updates. Was fully updated when I got it. I no longer have it, sold it and got a pure edition since I switched to cricket and wanted lte.
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Based on this thread, I snagged a refurbished Motorola 1096 on ebay. With a T-Mobile SIM card, I get flawless voice, SMS texting, and 4G LTE data. Out of the box, it came with Android 4.4.4 but automatically started downloading lollipop as soon as I turned it on - this was before I put the SIM card in. I did update it fully before inserting the T-Mobile SIM card, and so I don't know if it'll continue to automatically update if it has a non-Verizon SIM card in.
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Just wondering if your Verizon Moto X (2014) is able to get software updates? Also, what about certain features like Wi-Fi calling? I am thinking about a factory refurbished Verizon Moto X (2014) for $259, but wanted to hear a bit more about your experience. Thanks so much!
Dan
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Software updates has nothing to do with the carrier sim card you are using in it. The phone itself will get it respective software update depending on its model number/variant and imei/serial number. For example, I'm using a at&t variant, and I unlocked it by purchasing an unlocked code so that I can use it on my local carrier. I was still able to get the lollipop update.
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I can also confirm that this works. I just left a TMo store, and my Verizon 2gen MotoX works perfectly!!! Calling, text, data, GPS...perfect!!
another great reason TMo > VZ
Great to know. It is now $200 on eBay, ordered it just now and hopefully would get it in hand by this weekend.
http://slickdeals.net/f/7980321-mot...6-verizon-gsm-unlocked-refurbished-199-99?v=1
Hate to necro this thread, but I'm wondering if anybody here is still running T-Mobile on their XT1096 (Verizon). I just went in to the T-Mobile store today and tried out a test SIM card, and while both voice and data seemed to work fine, I had hiccups with SMS. Based on some testing, I was able to send texts but was unable to receive them. We played with some APN settings and rebooted the phone but to no avail.
One unique thing about my setup is that my bootloader is unlocked and I'm running a custom debloated version of the stock ROM (which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/img-xt1096-victara-mofo-image-root-t3100145). Is it possible that this could be causing the issue, should I go back into the store running pure stock and try again?
Anybody got any ideas?
I paid full price for Verizon note9 from Samsung dot com, to my surprise I pop in freedompop simcard which is GSM and use att network and i'm getting 4G LTE
Verizon apparently hasn't switched to locking their phones yet. That is good news.
Because it was purchased thru Samsung direct, although it's a carrier branded phone, is the reason why it's unlocked.
princeasi said:
Because it was purchased thru Samsung direct, although it's a carrier branded phone, is the reason why it's unlocked.
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Aren't all VZW LTE Phones SIM unlocked,regardless of where you buy it,financed.or,paid in full?
https://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy
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Not sure, could be so. I do know for certain, well according to what Samsung told me previously, that Samsung direct currently sell their phones unlocked whether branded or unbranded.
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Not sure, could be so. I do know for certain, well according to what Samsung told me previously, that Samsung direct currently sell their phones unlocked whether branded or unbranded.
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Yeah,there's no reason for any phone purchased direct from Samsung,or any mfg for that matter,to have a SIM Lock.
The carriers are totally out of the loop on the transaction,less having their bloatware pre-installed......
Starting with the HTC Thunderbolt, Verizon branded LTE smart phones have been SIM Unlocked "out of the box" ... I'm not aware of any recent Verizon branded LTE smart phones that are SIM locked. My verizon branded S6, Note 5, S6 Edge+, S7, S8, Note 8, S9 and Note 9 are all SIM unlocked out of the box.
That being said, they may still be restricted on what non-Verizon LTE bands they support (i.e. their software supports all LTE bands Verizon uses, but don't necessarily support all LTE bands T-Mobile and ATT use too.).. And they may not support other carrier features (like VoLTE on ATT, etc) when running the Verizon branded software.
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Yeah,there's no reason for any phone purchased direct from Samsung,or any mfg for that matter,to have a SIM Lock.
The carriers are totally out of the loop on the transaction,less having their bloatware pre-installed......
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Yes agreed
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Because it was purchased thru Samsung direct, although it's a carrier branded phone, is the reason why it's unlocked.
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Yeah, that's not true. Verizon phones are sold unlocked due to their deal with the US government back when LTE was starting out. They've since decided to cancel that policy, but haven't put that in effect yet.
Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile phones sold through Samsung are all sold carrier locked.
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Yeah, that's not true. Verizon phones are sold unlocked due to their deal with the US government back when LTE was starting out. They've since decided to cancel that policy, but haven't put that in effect yet.
Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile phones sold through Samsung are all sold carrier locked.
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State exactly what I error'd in saying? you may not have read the OP or my statements carefully.
You stated that carrier branded phones purchased through Samsung are unlocked. That's not correct. Only Verizon ones are.
You said it was unlocked because it was purchased from Samsung. Even if we were ONLY discussing Verizon phones, that's incorrect. ALL Verizon phones are sold unlocked due to their deal with the government.
I read the question, and the response. Not sure what to tell you.
How can I tell if our verizon phones are unlocked? Best buy lowered the trade in value of our old phone saying it was only for unlocked phones. If all verizon phones are unlocked, they owe us a refund!
EDIT: I just googled and checked, and our verizon note 9 phones are NOT unlocked.
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I paid full price for Verizon note9 from Samsung dot com, to my surprise I pop in freedompop simcard which is GSM and use att network and i'm getting 4G LTE
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Verizon doesn't lock LTE phones
Gareee said:
How can I tell if our verizon phones are unlocked? Best buy lowered the trade in value of our old phone saying it was only for unlocked phones. If all verizon phones are unlocked, they owe us a refund!
EDIT: I just googled and checked, and our verizon note 9 phones are NOT unlocked.
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There might be some terminology confusion here. The device Samsung sells as UNLOCKED ships SIM Unlocked so you can put any carrier SIM in it, will support all the maximum cellular radio bands, and has no carrier bloat or customization on it (aka unbranded).
While LTE phones from Verizon are SIM unlocked out of the box, they often support only the cellular bands that Verizon uses or feels the need to include, and will have carrier bloat on them. The other carrier variants like ATT or SPRINT sell their devices as SIM LOCKED, with cellular bands they want to support, and their bloat. While you do have the option of getting these phones SIM unlocked it wont impact the cellular bands supported by the carrier's software.
In other words, technically while the Verizon phones are SIM Unlocked (this includes the Note 9), and you can stick the SIM in from another carrier... their software restricts what cellular bands the phone is compatible, and it has the Verizon bloat on it. And therefore they are not the same as the UNLOCKED variant that Samsung sells.
So in my case, since the Verizon Note 9 is SIM unlocked out of the box, I can put my ATT SIM into it and it will get LTE coverage and work (see my screen shot)... As you can see the Verizon software also notifies me that its a non-Verizon sim. The Verizon branded software is missing support for certain GSM/UMTS/LTE bands that ATT has, so if I go to an area where ATT uses a particular band which is absent from the Verizon phone, my phone can't use it, and therefore wont perform as well as a phone that does support all the bands ATT uses.
To understand what I mean... take a look at this page -> https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g960-g965-model-number-differences/ for the Galaxy S9/S9+ which lists bands the different models support. You'll see there are some bands listed on the ATT variant that are not listed for the Verizon variant and vice versa. And compare those with the "Snapdragon 845 Unlocked US" listing which has support for many more bands than either the Verizon or ATT models... (sorry I couldn't find a similar chart for the Note 9)
So if I use my ATT SIM in my Verizon GS8/Note8/GS9/Note9, there is the real potential I wont see the same wireless performance that I would using an ATT variant or "Unlocked" (aka Unbranded) variant of that same phone.
This is why an Unlocked (aka unbranded) phone will have a better trade in or resell value.
That being said, through a series of steps, I could flash the unbranded software to my Verizon phone and convert it to the "Unlocked" (aka unbranded) variant and gain access to those bands (I did so with my Verizon GS8, converting it to the XAA or Unlocked variant). This also likely voids the warranty. Unfortunately if Best Buy, Samsung, a carrier, etc. looks up the IMEI of the phone (for activation, warranty status, etc) they would see its the Verizon model not the unlocked.
They sell them unlocked, right, but I think some have put nag toast notifications about non Verizon SIM cards.