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Whoa - T-Mobile wrong version!?

http://www.tmonews.com/2014/09/netw...-700mhz-spectrum-lte-goes-live-in-gardner-ma/
Read part about moto x. Is this right??? If so, are we getting ripped off?

Band 12 won't be an issue for 99% of the country for years.
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Thanks - what is the support for HD voice or VoLTE?

It's not clear which model Motorola will ship as the 'Pure Edition', but either way they are locking it down and limiting it to lte 2/4/17, which is not the full spectrum of at&t, t-mobile bands and it lacks international bands. There are two possible radio configurations http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/pure-edition-fcc-id-t2884649

I'm a holding a T-mobile PURE version, It's XT1095.

knitler said:
I'm a holding a T-mobile PURE version, It's XT1095.
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Do you know if you have HD Voice/VoLTE?

km8j said:
Do you know if you have HD Voice/VoLTE?
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How do I check? If I know how I will.

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How do I check? If I know how I will.
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HD Voice = On T-Mo branded devices, it says HD when in a call. If you call someone else on T-Mo with a modern device, you should have a noticeably clearer conversation. HD voice is phenomenal. Voices are richer, etc.
VoLTE = Only will know if in an area with that coverage. If you get on a voice call and still have LTE, you are on VoLTE. Can Google your location to see if it is there. You could also check phone settings, see if there is an option for it.

km8j said:
HD Voice = On T-Mo branded devices, it says HD when in a call. If you call someone else on T-Mo with a modern device, you should have a noticeably clearer conversation. HD voice is phenomenal. Voices are richer, etc.
VoLTE = Only will know if in an area with that coverage. If you get on a voice call and still have LTE, you are on VoLTE. Can Google your location to see if it is there. You could also check phone settings, see if there is an option for it.
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Would the fact I use Google Voice effect his?
I have a call for work later today I'll pay attention to if it keeps LTE or not. Where in settings would It be? I see nothing.
Just called my house, it goes to just 4G(HSPA+).

knitler said:
Would the fact I use Google Voice effect his?
I have a call for work later today I'll pay attention to if it keeps LTE or not. Where in settings would It be? I see nothing.
Just called my house, it goes to just 4G(HSPA+).
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Google Voice is interesting question. It is only further complicated by the new hangouts dialer which definitely woudlnt be HD. On my S5, I go to phone -> settings -> call -> VoLTE

km8j said:
Google Voice is interesting question. It is only further complicated by the new hangouts dialer which definitely woudlnt be HD. On my S5, I go to phone -> settings -> call -> VoLTE
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I have no Call under Settings in Phone.
I don't use the Hangouts Dialer.

chrisrozon said:
Band 12 won't be an issue for 99% of the country for years.
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Well, T-mo owns the Band 12 frequencies in the majority of the county I live in. It isn't active yet, but if I am buying a 2-year device, it had better support Band 12.

Seems like the XT1092 is the Sprint version that had all the Sprint & T-mobile LTE bands in preparation for a T-mobile/Sprint merger. Whether and where it shows up in the wild is anybody's guess.

Minneapolis
Does anyone know if T-Mo is currently using band 12 in MN?

aaronc_98 said:
Does anyone know if T-Mo is currently using band 12 in MN?
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http://www.tmonews.com/2014/09/netw...-700mhz-spectrum-lte-goes-live-in-gardner-ma/
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0.0 said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2014/09/netw...-700mhz-spectrum-lte-goes-live-in-gardner-ma/
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Doesn't that say they own spectrum? It gives no indication of whether or not it is in use, unless I missed it.
thanks,

aaronc_98 said:
Doesn't that say they own spectrum? It gives no indication of whether or not it is in use, unless I missed it.
thanks,
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It shows where T-Mobile has it, and it will be operating later
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Navigation (GPS) doesn't work

This might be a deal breaker for me, and I can't believe I haven't heard about it in reviews.
GPS doesn't work if you are on the phone? Is this a VZW only thing?
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Do you mean by calling ?

Faruko said:
Do you mean by calling ?
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Yes, as soon as I make a phone call my GPS stopped tracking my progress. When I hang up, tracking resumes.

I have not noticed this with the OG X. I do use GPS and have calls at times.
I wont get my new 2014 X till the 29th

Voice calls and data connection currently don't work together. There's an update planned for "this fall" that will fix it.

toddbecker said:
Yes, as soon as I make a phone call my GPS stopped tracking my progress. When I hang up, tracking resumes.
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Update - it seems like the GPS is still tracking, but my nav app begins searching for the data network to provide additional info (traffic, accidents, etc.).
So, not as big a deal as I thought, but still annoying and seems like a step back from my RAZR M.

not an issue on ATT.

toddbecker said:
This might be a deal breaker for me, and I can't believe I haven't heard about it in reviews.
GPS doesn't work if you are on the phone? Is this a VZW only thing?
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Yes its Verizon only. Never noticed you can't use data on the phone?

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Yes its Verizon only. Never noticed you can't use data on the phone?
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I didn't have the same behavior on my RAZR M that I have with the Moto X. On the X, my navigation app, Waze, begins searching for a connection (though the GPS tracking continues). In addition, a box pops up to warn about the lack of data.

Verizon's CMDA/LTE can't do voice and data at the same time (with the exception of the Rezound and the Thunderbolt), it's a problem with CDMA. GSM networks like AT&T and T-Mobile have no problem with this.

brando56894 said:
Verizon's CMDA/LTE can't do voice and data at the same time (with the exception of the Rezound and the Thunderbolt), it's a problem with CDMA. GSM networks like AT&T and T-Mobile have no problem with this.
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Uh, what? Simultaneous voice and data has been a staple on nearly every VZW LTE phone SINCE the Thunderbolt, not just two phones.

Mean Bro Greene said:
Uh, what? Simultaneous voice and data has been a staple on nearly every VZW LTE phone SINCE the Thunderbolt, not just two phones.
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I haven't had a Verizon phone since the galaxy nexus or Rezound came out so excuse me. I hoped over to t-mobile.

HD voice?

Is it possible to enable HD voice support on Nexus 6?

I'm pretty sure it works for me already. On Rogers.

Thanks for your reply.
I'm on Telenor network in Norway and I don't think it's working for me. It worked with my Note 3 before.
Is it any way to check if it is activated?

its all dependent on your provider. if it is available in your area, and both the caller and receiver have it included(in their phone), it will automatically use the hd calling. if only one person has it available, then it will not be used.

HD Voice generally works with two conditions
1. Phones have to support HD voice. I think newer iphones and some new androids like N6.
2. The two callers have to be on the same carrier. tmobile to tmobile. ATT to ATT, Verizon to Verizon.
Wait, I think there needs to be a third point. Data needs to be also on?

8Fishes said:
HD Voice generally works with two conditions
1. Phones have to support HD voice. I think newer iphones and some new androids like N6.
2. The two callers have to be on the same carrier. tmobile to tmobile. ATT to ATT, Verizon to Verizon.
Wait, I think there needs to be a third point. Data needs to be also on?
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3rd.. both sides of the call have to have the feature.

Excited to try video calling...

I'm hoping this advanced calling video works well on the S6. I hope it works as good as Facetime.

Works very well. Better than facetime since it works with iPhones as well. Doesn't work on all phones yet but works well on the compatible devices

Sweet!!! So it's currently able to be used on devices with Verizon prior to S6? I have never seen the option.

le0.br4zuc4 said:
Works very well. Better than facetime since it works with iPhones as well. Doesn't work on all phones yet but works well on the compatible devices
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Definitely doesn't work with iPhones. Only between Verizon branded Android devices, while on Verizon LTE network.

milan03 said:
Definitely doesn't work with iPhones. Only between Verizon branded Android devices, while on Verizon LTE network.
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I don't think I am. I'm almost certain that a Verizon note about VoLTE being so great was HD voice and Video regardless of phone you're using. I'll double check on that and post if I'm either right or wrong.
However, I'm 1000000% sure HD voice works fine because my business partner has an iPhone 6+ and I a GS6 Edge and we just hung up a call that was VoLTE.

le0.br4zuc4 said:
I don't think I am. I'm almost certain that a Verizon note about VoLTE being so great was HD voice and Video regardless of phone you're using. I'll double check on that and post if I'm either right or wrong.
However, I'm 1000000% sure HD voice works fine because my business partner has an iPhone 6+ and I a GS6 Edge and we just hung up a call that was VoLTE.
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- VoLTE will work on your side if you have a capable phone, regardless of whether the other party has a VoLTE device or not.
- HD Voice however will only happen within VoLTE-to-VoLTE calls within Verizon's LTE network.
- LTE Video calling, which is what we're talking about in this thread, will only work when calling another Verizon's LTE Video Calling enabled device, while on Verizon's LTE network.
- No iOS devices support Verizon's LTE Video Calling at this time, including iPhone 6.

Works great with my edge and wife's S5! Goodbye Skype!

I tried all weekend to video chat with my mother and her iPhone6 and it would absolutely not work. HD voice worked amazingly. iPhone's just don't have the ability to do it yet.

Does video calling use data?

Yes it uses data.

WiFi?
Does it only work on LTE? I can't seem to figure out how to do it. I'm on WiFi currently.

redneck_jedi said:
Does it only work on LTE? I can't seem to figure out how to do it. I'm on WiFi currently.
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What I have found is you need to make a regular call. When the person connects and you're talking....hit the camera button on you your phone. It will say it's requesting video call.

You can't have video calling between Android and iPhone. Both different platforms. I kept on trying and trying and I found that out on HD video Q&A on Verizon site.

trikotret said:
You can't have video calling between Android and iPhone. Both different platforms. I kept on trying and trying and I found that out on HD video Q&A on Verizon site.
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What you guys use for video calling? Hangouts?

What phones does this work with?
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I use hangouts on all my phones to call my wife's gs4 for video

I have tried to call with my s6 edge but i did not get any respons out of it.. (wifi/cellular)
what software is used to make the video connection? ( by default in the s6 edge )

Does the unlocked version FULLY work on Verizon?

I was looking to get the new HTC u11 which for Verizon can only be done unlocked but there are a ton of people having a ton of issues on Verizon with the unlocked model: IMEI not accepted on Verizon, missing bands, no cdma (so no 3g or 1x), missing visual voicemail, no immediate HD calling, no Wi-Fi calling, notification issues and Verizon essentially saying the phone was never qualified on their Network so support is limited and so will future updates to the phone like getting Wi-Fi calling working. So that option is dead to me as getting an unlocked phone without carrier bloat is great but not great if it's having this many issues.
So... I'm curious if the same thing happens with the unlocked version of the S8 on Verizon? Or is it 100% functioning just minus the carrier bloat?

Answer = no
No CDMA radio so no 3G or 1x in remote or spotty places. A tech told me.

Lock-N-Load said:
Answer = no
No CDMA radio so no 3G or 1x in remote or spotty places. A tech told me.
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According to Samsung.com it will work on Verizon. However, I haven't found if it fully works.

Works fine on VZW all s8's are using the same hardware, only difference is the customized carrier software.

txaggies07 said:
According to Samsung.com it will work on Verizon. However, I haven't found if it fully works.
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Just like HTC - it will work to a limited degree. No 3g no 1x as no cdma radio. I need that ability so I passed.

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Just like HTC - it will work to a limited degree. No 3g no 1x as no cdma radio. I need that ability so I passed.
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The S8 has a CDMA radio. It is the same hardware that Verizon and Sprint use for the carrier model.

I'M on the unlocked model, notice my phone was using 3g so yes it can. For some reason my father in law was not able to add a line to our plan because my phone was marked on the account as incompatible. Was told to go get a new sim card and everything was working before and after so I'm not sure? The tech wasn't sure why I had to get a new SIM. I had popped it out of my iPhone 7 and it worked immediately on my s8. I have not found the wifi calling feature though.

Does UDP native tethering work our of the box on the unlocked model on Verizon? How about HD voice? Both of these work on my Moto X Pure, even though is is not Verizon certified.

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Does UDP native tethering work our of the box on the unlocked model on Verizon? How about HD voice? Both of these work on my Moto X Pure, even though is is not Verizon certified.
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Yes works great. I found a Cspire s8 plus that was Google locked. I unlocked it then sim unlocked it and flashed the U firmware. Only thing is no option for video calling and I haven't tried wifi calling but everything else works. I'm now using it on Verizon. Had the phone a month now.
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Does UDP native tethering work our of the box on the unlocked model on Verizon? How about HD voice? Both of these work on my Moto X Pure, even though is is not Verizon certified.
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The S8 has a CDMA radio. It is the same hardware that Verizon and Sprint use for the carrier model.
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Thank you for bringing him into 2017 lol

txaggies07 said:
The S8 has a CDMA radio. It is the same hardware that Verizon and Sprint use for the carrier model.
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Works fine with 3g...my office sux and my unlocked works in 3g on verizon just fine.
Best part about unlocked - no tether subscription check, so I can keep tethering my old unlimited data plan without paying the tether fee
From what I can tell, only visual voicemail is not working on verizon, but google voice forwarding is just as good. Plus it was like this on the 6p until it upgraded to 7.1 at which time it worked natively, so the S8 might eventually get the same treatment.
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Does UDP native tethering work our of the box on the unlocked model on Verizon? How about HD voice? Both of these work on my Moto X Pure, even though is is not Verizon certified.
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Yes and Yes...just like my 6p

gs05 said:
Works fine with 3g...my office sux and my unlocked works in 3g on verizon just fine.
Best part about unlocked - no tether subscription check, so I can keep tethering my old unlimited data plan without paying the tether fee
From what I can tell, only visual voicemail is not working on verizon, but google voice forwarding is just as good. Plus it was like this on the 6p until it upgraded to 7.1 at which time it worked natively, so the S8 might eventually get the same treatment.
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Yes and Yes...just like my 6p
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How do you properly set up Google Voice so that you can use it as Visual Voicemail. I tried setting it up via the old Legacy Google Voice link through PC browser. Thought I had everything working, but not sure. I may have enabled an extra step, as everytime I dial out, it hangs up and auto redials really quickly. Like it routes all outgoing calls through GV too. Sometimes it redials the same number, sometimes it's a completely random number.

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How do you properly set up Google Voice so that you can use it as Visual Voicemail. I tried setting it up via the old Legacy Google Voice link through PC browser. Thought I had everything working, but not sure. I may have enabled an extra step, as everytime I dial out, it hangs up and auto redials really quickly. Like it routes all outgoing calls through GV too. Sometimes it redials the same number, sometimes it's a completely random number.
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They had me put in some crazy string into the phone. But make sure google chat is unchecked on the legacy site. Then click the little link for voicemail forwarding. Go through the prompts and it works fine. I had to put do not disturb so it doesnt ring through to my voice number, but it seems to working just fine. Make sure the setting on the non legacy site are all unchecked too

So far the only thing that doesn't appear to work is WiFi calling. VoLTE works but there is no indication of HD Voice on the handset.
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I'M on the unlocked model, notice my phone was using 3g so yes it can. For some reason my father in law was not able to add a line to our plan because my phone was marked on the account as incompatible. Was told to go get a new sim card and everything was working before and after so I'm not sure? The tech wasn't sure why I had to get a new SIM. I had popped it out of my iPhone 7 and it worked immediately on my s8. I have not found the wifi calling feature though.
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Yes, this is because the IMEI is not "in the system" so you cannot use the phone to activate a new SIM unless you have the IMEI added to the VZW database. The solution to this is to active the SIM in a VZW handset and then put that SIM into the S8.

vincey2kr1 said:
I'M on the unlocked model, notice my phone was using 3g so yes it can. For some reason my father in law was not able to add a line to our plan because my phone was marked on the account as incompatible. Was told to go get a new sim card and everything was working before and after so I'm not sure? The tech wasn't sure why I had to get a new SIM. I had popped it out of my iPhone 7 and it worked immediately on my s8. I have not found the wifi calling feature though.
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Do you see verizon wifi callin gone sm-g950u1

verizon wifi calling is only available in the VZW specific firmware for the device. i purchased an unlocked S8 and because i needed wifi calling, i had to flash the VZW specific firmware.

knightsfury said:
verizon wifi calling is only available in the VZW specific firmware for the device. i purchased an unlocked S8 and because i needed wifi calling, i had to flash the VZW specific firmware.
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Hi knightsfury - Were you able to pull off getting the VZW firmware on your unlocked s8? I need the wifi calling/video calling, as well. have been trying to find a thread which explains this. Would you be able point in the right direction? Thanks!

What is the model number for the unlocked variant that works on Verizon? Can anyone link me to where to buy one?

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Hi knightsfury - Were you able to pull off getting the VZW firmware on your unlocked s8? I need the wifi calling/video calling, as well. have been trying to find a thread which explains this. Would you be able point in the right direction? Thanks!
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yes i had no problems. in fact, i did this with 2 different new unlocked S8's (mine and my wife's). i followed the threads for flashing firmware in the guides section: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to

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yes i had no problems. in fact, i did this with 2 different new unlocked S8's (mine and my wife's). i followed the threads for flashing firmware in the guides section: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to
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Great! Thanks for letting me know. I got it to work as well - I have HD & Wireless calling working, but still waiting on video calling because it is blocked as a service on our account from when we activated the phones unlocked. However, a CS rep told me they would work with higher tier tech support to see if the block can be removed. We will see...
Thanks again!

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Answer = no
No CDMA radio so no 3G or 1x in remote or spotty places. A tech told me.
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Confirmed... when I am out of LTE coverage areas there is no 2x or 3x , only 1x voice. In practice this means no MMS (2x), or any other data. No group texts, fun. You can still make and receive phone calls and SMS. This kinda sucks.
Purchased at : B&H Photo Video
Settings -> About Phone :
Model: SM-G950U1
Baseband : G950U1EU1AQG2
Build: NRD90M.G950U1UEU1AQG2
If you look at available firmware for the SM-G950U1 : http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?q=SM-G950U1&exact=1&r=&v=&rpp=50 there are Verizon-specific ones. I'm going to go give one of those a try.
(https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/official-stock-firmware-update-odin-t3598172) (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817) and report back. Unfortunately this means wiping the phone and dealing with Verizon bloatware... but that seems to be the cost for getting 3G back.
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