Can we run Sony Liveware on the Gear? - Samsung Galaxy Gear

Hi there,
While playing around with some apps and the Gear i noticed that the Sony Liveware app is able to connect with the Gear. To my surprise it connect without a hitch and the Gear is detected as a smartwatch by the app!
However, after that there isn't much to do with the Liveware app, probably because there is no corresponding app on the Gear to interact with.
This made me wonder: what if we could sideload the necessary apps on the Gear that communicates with the Liveware app?
In *theory* this could give the Gear a lot of extra things to play around with.
It's probably not a simple as it sounds but it's worth a try i guess. I'm afraid i can't test this out since i'm my knowledge of the advanced working of Android is nonexistent. Any developer around that would be so kind to test this :laugh: ?

Esparoba2 said:
Hi there,
While playing around with some apps and the Gear i noticed that the Sony Liveware app is able to connect with the Gear. To my surprise it connect without a hitch and the Gear is detected as a smartwatch by the app!
However, after that there isn't much to do with the Liveware app, probably because there is no corresponding app on the Gear to interact with.
This made me wonder: what if we could sideload the necessary apps on the Gear that communicates with the Liveware app?
In *theory* this could give the Gear a lot of extra things to play around with.
It's probably not a simple as it sounds but it's worth a try i guess. I'm afraid i can't test this out since i'm my knowledge of the advanced working of Android is nonexistent. Any developer around that would be so kind to test this :laugh: ?
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What is liveware exactly.. I'm intrigued.
Is it some sort of sony smartwatch manager of some sorts ?

fOmey said:
What is liveware exactly.. I'm intrigued.
Is it some sort of sony smartwatch manager of some sorts ?
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With the proper extensions (available via Sony or third party dev's in the Play Store) it is able to manage "smart devices" (as Sony calls them).
These include the Sony Smartwatch devices, wireless headphones and headsets.
Since i'm a new poster around here i'm not able to post links yet, but if you search for "Smart Connect (LiveWareâ„¢ Mgr)" in the Play Store you will find it.
In the related apps section are various extensions that add functionality to these smart devices.

I was just looking up all the apps for the smartwatch and there are plenty. Could we download these and push the apk with adb? This would add some nice functions for unrooted gears.

somebody should try it out
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is there Camera app to take photo with the phone from gear??

Hey is there any app that can take photos from the gear? I mean if u want a family pic and want to use the phones camera..
Like smartwatch had
lenti_db said:
Hey is there any app that can take photos from the gear? I mean if u want a family pic and want to use the phones camera..
Like smartwatch had
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On GEAR, you can take photo (camera app built-in), then it can transfer those photos from GEAR to your Paired mobile phone.
If you need more app, you can make installation from apk files (by the use of ADB or Wondershare GoMobile or Bluetooth File Transfer).
Yeah, but take a picture with the watches built in camera, and one with the phone. I tried taking pictures of my son trick-or-treating tonight and the watch doesn't do well in low lights or distances. I had the Sony Smartwatch 1 and it had apps to take pictures using the phones camera, record audio via the phone (So you could leave your phone in a room and record from your watch). On the remote camera app it even showed the viewfinder on the watch. Thats my chief complaint about the Galaxy Gear. The Sony Smartwatch came out over a year ago, and the apps it had are way more advanced than the Galaxy Gear which is $100 more than what I bought the Sony watch in 2012. I could read full GMail emails, facebook posts not just messages, same with twitter. It worked both ways the phone could control the watch and the watch could control the phone. The ONLY reason I'm putting up with the Galaxy Gear is because the ability to make/receive calls via bluetooth comes in handy for me. I just hope I didn't back the wrong horse by switching to Samsung..... I think Sony was more successful because they left apps to the Google Play store. Once the developer pack was out anyone could make an app for the Sony watch and put it in the market. I'm not very satisifed with the APP store being proprietary.
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Yeah, but take a picture with the watches built in camera, and one with the phone. I tried taking pictures of my son trick-or-treating tonight and the watch doesn't do well in low lights or distances. I had the Sony Smartwatch 1 and it had apps to take pictures using the phones camera, record audio via the phone (So you could leave your phone in a room and record from your watch). On the remote camera app it even showed the viewfinder on the watch. Thats my chief complaint about the Galaxy Gear. The Sony Smartwatch came out over a year ago, and the apps it had are way more advanced than the Galaxy Gear which is $100 more than what I bought the Sony watch in 2012. I could read full GMail emails, facebook posts not just messages, same with twitter. It worked both ways the phone could control the watch and the watch could control the phone. The ONLY reason I'm putting up with the Galaxy Gear is because the ability to make/receive calls via bluetooth comes in handy for me. I just hope I didn't back the wrong horse by switching to Samsung..... I think Sony was more successful because they left apps to the Google Play store. Once the developer pack was out anyone could make an app for the Sony watch and put it in the market. I'm not very satisifed with the APP store being proprietary.
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yea exacly what i need to.. something similair to smartwatch,, aremote for the phone camera, the one build in the watch isnt good in low light :/
what your looking for is a remote for the phone's camera like the "Media Controller".
might not exist yet :/
I would like to know if there is an app that will allow you to activate the gear camera from your phone...for example if you wanted to use it in another room.
Nice! Its interesting to have this Samsung gear watch. Mine is Samsung Galaxy mobile phone only.
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Just figured out how to use the gear as a trigger to take pictures with my phone
This is kinda limited but hadnt seen it on these forums yet so figured would share once I got this somewhat working. The app to use is camera remote, it is free on market, and needs to be installed on both the android device, mine is currently the verizon gs4, and to have it sideloaded to the gear, used wondershare no problem.Once both apps are installed, you lauch on the phone, and then select the option of camera, then you launch it on the gear, and select remote, its hard to see in the frames due to the adds but can be selected. Once both apps are running you can then on the phone select the bluetooth icon and select pair, assuming your gear is already connected to the phone through gear manager. Then select gear, then line up the phone to what you want to take a pic of, used my dog sleeping on the couch, and then on the watch app hit the camera icon and it will trigger the phone to take a pic. Im sure this can be expanded on but figured would share the initial fun.
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Cannot find Smart Remote TV app to download

Happy New Year!
As per title, there is a software that works with the Note 3 and S4 which functions as a Remote Control for TVs, stereos etc.. This software is called WatchON, is installed by default on Note 3 and uses irDA (infrared) to control the aforementioned equipment.
There is now another part of this software which works specifically with WatchON and is only for Samsung Galaxy Gear. It is made by Peel. It functions as a remote tv etc. control using the irDA of the phone. So you leave the phone on the sofa looking the TV and can change channels using the Galaxy Gear..
More info here:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/22...control-through-ir-sensor-on-galaxy-note-3s4/
Well I cannot find this specific app for my Galaxy Gear to install it! If anyone has it could you please upload it?
Thanx.
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Mickey_80 said:
Happy New Year!
As per title, there is a software that works with the Note 3 and S4 which functions as a Remote Control for TVs, stereos etc.. This software is called WatchON, is installed by default on Note 3 and uses irDA (infrared) to control the aforementioned equipment.
There is now another part of this software which works specifically with WatchON and is only for Samsung Galaxy Gear. It is made by Peel. It functions as a remote tv etc. control using the irDA of the phone. So you leave the phone on the sofa looking the TV and can change channels using the Galaxy Gear..
More info here:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/22...control-through-ir-sensor-on-galaxy-note-3s4/
Well I cannot find this specific app for my Galaxy Gear to install it! If anyone has it could you please upload it?
Thanx.
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The Gear has no IR emitter. There's no hardware to support it, it's impossible.
fbueller said:
The Gear has no IR emitter. There's no hardware to support it, it's impossible.
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Yes I know that it has no IR hardware.
The Gear uses via bluetooth the WatchON app and the IR hardware of Note 3 to send commands to TVs etc.
In other words the Gear is used as a companion to WatchON app which is installed on the phone and sends the commands via BT to the phone which are then transmitted via the IR emitter of the phone to the TV set.
I am trying to find and download the Remote Control app which allows the Galaxy Gear to function as mentioned above.
Mickey_80 said:
Yes I know that it has no IR hardware.
The Gear uses via bluetooth the WatchON app and the IR hardware of Note 3 to send commands to TVs etc.
In other words the Gear is used as a companion to WatchON app which is installed on the phone and sends the commands via BT to the phone which are then transmitted via the IR emitter of the phone to the TV set.
I am trying to find and download the Remote Control app which allows the Galaxy Gear to function as mentioned above.
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I'm all for doing tech because you can do it, but that'd be a total waste that I can tell. You'd have to get your phone out, make sure it was pointed at the TV, then use the BT on your watch to control the phone to control the TV?
fbueller said:
I'm all for doing tech because you can do it, but that'd be a total waste that I can tell. You'd have to get your phone out, make sure it was pointed at the TV, then use the BT on your watch to control the phone to control the TV?
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Haven't seen it, but it sounds like a cool idea to me. If you never have to touch a remote while watching a program, I get that this may seem a bit much. However, when you have multiple interruptions (think kids) and the remote has gotten lost between the pillows, the value of this idea becomes obvious.
I'll see if I can't find it.
That app hit the gear store awhile ago and was subsequently pulled within a few days-no idea why-did try it and it was more trouble than it was worth-after a few minutes I ended up uninstalling
shamrock505 said:
That app hit the gear store awhile ago and was subsequently pulled within a few days-no idea why-did try it and it was more trouble than it was worth-after a few minutes I ended up uninstalling
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it sounds rather usefull to me. i have my note 3 connected to TV/projector sometimes, and it's usually pointed at the screen anyway so having the ability to pause/change volume etc from my wrist would be more than cool.
Did anyone ever find this app?
Gear 1 Peal App
Mr.Hatchet said:
Did anyone ever find this app?
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I had the app when I first got my gear.

SideloadVR for Gear VR

Anyone here familiar with this? It's pretty cool, sort of a sideloading market for people to put up their creations, doesn't post the programs in Oculus VR, but the programs work within the Gear VR headset.
http://sideloadvr.com/
Pretty cool. I got Quake VR from there, plus a not half bad Youtube theater app.
JoeyDVDZ said:
Anyone here familiar with this? It's pretty cool, sort of a sideloading market for people to put up their creations, doesn't post the programs in Oculus VR, but the programs work within the Gear VR headset.
http://sideloadvr.com/
Pretty cool. I got Quake VR from there, plus a not half bad Youtube theater app.
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Yeah I use it too. I also use it to turn on developer mode for gear to eliminate the bluriness [emoji4]
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Yeah I use it too. I also use it to turn on developer mode for gear to eliminate the bluriness [emoji4]
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How does that work?
I also have started using this sideload vr ,quake is great but made me a bit sick
I wanted it for the youtube but it does not support 3d videos etc but does 360 ones.
some cool free games
saint_cow said:
How does that work?
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Have a read of this and see what you make from it [emoji4]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63981197
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samsung vr apps on generic vr system (like vr box??)
hello guys.
my idea is try samsung gear vr system and apps with a generic vr box (that i will buy).
i have an s6 edge.
it is possible?
for now i doing some test.
i jave already installed oculus home and gear vr apps on my smartphone (thanks to sideloadvr) and setting devoloper mode.
gear vr apps are started and worked.
the problem is accelometer that dont work...
i cant move image....why???
Has anyone tried the Virtualex Reader, if there are no books I get to see the bookshelf but the minute I add epubs to the folder the app crashes. I would like to y this out, any suggestions?
shanksv said:
Has anyone tried the Virtualex Reader, if there are no books I get to see the bookshelf but the minute I add epubs to the folder the app crashes. I would like to y this out, any suggestions?
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I had the same problem. The epub you are loading is likely still drm protected. If you can remove the drm protection ( not for pirating-must own the book) it does work. However the book I loaded now works perfectly in all other epub readers and in Virtualex Reader does not display pictures (just text) and the text is in a courier like font (blech). I uninstalled once I got it working. ?
developweb said:
I had the same problem. The epub you are loading is likely still drm protected. If you can remove the drm protection ( not for pirating-must own the book) it does work. However the book I loaded now works perfectly in all other epub readers and in Virtualex Reader does not display pictures (just text) and the text is in a courier like font (blech). I uninstalled once I got it working.
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No luck here. I will keep trying, but considering that you can't control the font it might not be worth it anyways.
kayo90 said:
hello guys.
my idea is try samsung gear vr system and apps with a generic vr box (that i will buy).
i have an s6 edge.
it is possible?
for now i doing some test.
i jave already installed oculus home and gear vr apps on my smartphone (thanks to sideloadvr) and setting devoloper mode.
gear vr apps are started and worked.
the problem is accelometer that dont work...
i cant move image....why???
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what do you mean? you were able to install oculus home store on an none gear vr device ? if yes HOW ????? pls
patrickdenis said:
what do you mean? you were able to install oculus home store on an none gear vr device ? if yes HOW ????? pls
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When you install SideLoad VR, it takes you through the process of generating an Oculus key which in turn enables you to install the Oculus home store. Unfortunately, anything you launch from the store still asks that you plug in GearVR... Wish there was a way around this. Surely whatever info OpenGear is sending to phones to emulate GearVR should be able to be run as a server on your PC over the same USB cord instead?
shanksv said:
No luck here. I will keep trying, but considering that you can't control the font it might not be worth it anyways.
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Was it DRM? It took me all day to find which removal system would work with mine.
developweb said:
Was it DRM? It took me all day to find which removal system would work with mine.
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Nope, it is not a DRM protected.
Hmm, for some reason i have a 18 digit ID, which causes all sorts of trouble as the oculus page will just accept 16 digits :/ Anyone know how to get around this?
hi, i use it with my samsung S6 edge gear
sideloadvr and download steam teather
then connect stream teather with nvidia shield ...goes ok
but i wonder if i can use it with team viewer or something like that so i can use the gear vr with all my desktop

Gear VR app repo, downloading apps outisde the oculus store?

Is there a way to get a hold of the apps before we buy them? Reason I ask is that sometimes apps are under developed or somehow don't work great with the phones. And the issue is that there isn't a refund option just in case the app is bad or whatever. So trying before buying would be the best option. I've done it with play store apps and sometimes PC games too. Can't seem to find anything on the gear VR though.

Alternative for NON VR App simulation

I have heard of Native SBS for the usage of non VR apps but it requires a rooted phone which I can't do because of company policy. Is there any alternatives that basically splits the screen and adjust focus to work on the Gear? Would be awesome to be able to have a full screen view of some non VR games and Apps.
I'm actually wondering the same thing. Figure I would bump this instead of making a new thread.
Been googling for a while now....
Edit:
Ah ok I see now after finally receiving my Gear VR a couple days ago.
The app must support "Stereoscopic view" before you can even use Gear VR in it. It is possible to mount the phone in the gear VR without it plugging so it doesn't go to the app. So you will see whatever you want on your screen, however it won't realistically be usable. For 3rd party apps such as PPSSPP, you can turn on "Google Cardboard view" and use your VR and I must say it works pretty damn well.

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