Okay so a local Verizon authorized retailer is selling 16GB Moto X for $1 for new customers and for existing Verizon customers who are upgrade ready. I asked the guy if there were any catches, how it works with Verizon and all with future upgrades, he said there's no strings, they just upgrade through Verizon and I purchase the device from him instead of Verizon.
So... can someone tell me if this plan will NOT work?
1. Family member is eligible for upgrade, already has 2GB data plan. Go into store and upgrade to Moto X for $1 and extend Verizon contract for 2 years.
2. On Verizon account, swap family member's new Moto X and my device (Galaxy Nexus, unlimited data still).
3. Buy Developer Edition Moto X from Motorola off contract at $550
4. Active Developer Edition Moto X on my account.
5. Sell the $1 Moto X on Swappa or like
All of this so I could get a Dev Edition Moto X and keep unlimited data for only about $201 assuming I can sell the 16GB $1 Moto X for maybe $350. Family member gets upgraded from Droid X to my Galaxy Nexus. Come March of this year, move my upgrade to family member's account if they don't like my Galaxy Nexus.
I called Verizon, the rep assured me there's no difference in buying and renewing contract at retailer versus at Verizon.
It seems like a bargain... what am I missing?
If you are using a family member's upgrade to receive the Moto X for $1 through the retailer, then yes, this will work. It's exactly like doing a buddy upgrade swap directly through Verizon. It is suggested that you activate the Moto X on your family member's line first, before you swap the device over to your line though, just to make sure Verizon processes the device upgrade on their line.
Yes, on our family plan, one of the lines is eligible for a discounted upgrade. So I'd go with them to store, upgrade/active the $1 Moto X, then maybe a day later login to Verizon account, swap phones with that line so now I have the Moto X and they have my Galaxy Nexus. Then I'd buy a developer edition Moto X at full price. Once it arrives, active it on my line. Then sell the original $1 Moto X on Swappa or somewhere to recoup costs on the Developer Edition Moto X I purchased. Then, if needed, I could also give my upgrade (coming in March) to the other line I used to get the Moto X for $1 in case they aren't happy with my old Galaxy Nexus, but probably won't be an issue, they're coming from a Droid X on 3G.
So I should be safe and fair game right?
just make sure you activate the phone on the # you got the upgrade for BEFORE you put it on the unlimited plan. i just did it with verizon. used my dads upgrade, activated on his #, went to verizon and then moved it to my unlimited plan.
Mike7143 said:
Okay so a local Verizon authorized retailer is selling 16GB Moto X for $1 for new customers and for existing Verizon customers who are upgrade ready. I asked the guy if there were any catches, how it works with Verizon and all with future upgrades, he said there's no strings, they just upgrade through Verizon and I purchase the device from him instead of Verizon.
So... can someone tell me if this plan will NOT work?
1. Family member is eligible for upgrade, already has 2GB data plan. Go into store and upgrade to Moto X for $1 and extend Verizon contract for 2 years.
2. On Verizon account, swap family member's new Moto X and my device (Galaxy Nexus, unlimited data still).
3. Buy Developer Edition Moto X from Motorola off contract at $550
4. Active Developer Edition Moto X on my account.
5. Sell the $1 Moto X on Swappa or like
All of this so I could get a Dev Edition Moto X and keep unlimited data for only about $201 assuming I can sell the 16GB $1 Moto X for maybe $350. Family member gets upgraded from Droid X to my Galaxy Nexus. Come March of this year, move my upgrade to family member's account if they don't like my Galaxy Nexus.
I called Verizon, the rep assured me there's no difference in buying and renewing contract at retailer versus at Verizon.
It seems like a bargain... what am I missing?
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Make sure this retailer doesn't have "charge backs" meaning they charge your credit card the full retail price of the phone if you take it off your account. I used to work at a retailer and this was something I was in charge of doing, seeing where we lost commission.
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Make sure this retailer doesn't have "charge backs" meaning they charge your credit card the full retail price of the phone if you take it off your account. I used to work at a retailer and this was something I was in charge of doing, seeing where we lost commission.
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Ooh, okay, see that's good to know. So you're saying I'd probably be safe if after upgrading I swapped, but if I sell it and it shows up on another different Verizon account, there's a chance that they would then they bill you for the phone afterwards?
Doesn't seem right, if they're selling the device for $1.... Do retailers have the ability to track MEID numbers for this? Or do they just hit up Verizon all the time to check if phones have changed accounts?
How would I find out if they have charge backs?
After some reading, it sounds like you'd only get a chargeback if the line you upgraded on is cancelled, as in you sign up with Verizon, 2 years later you're eligible for upgrade, walk into retailer, upgrade line, then close VZW account and run off with device. Which is dumb anyway cause you'd have to pay the ETF, unless I guess you're planning to sell your contract and port your number over to a different service. So if I'm just upgrading the line, swapping phones, activating a new device on my line, upgraded line is still active, and sell the $1 moto x....
I assume I'd be fine then? as long as whoever I sell the moto X to doesn't cancel their contract??? Or as long as the line that was upgraded is still "on" then it wouldn't matter?
I found a post on HowardForums, google search howard forums chargebacks and it's the first link from about 2010, can't post links yet that talks about this.
Anything else someone can think of? I'm kinda out of ideas.
Just one note: If the upgrade line that you have coming up in March is the unlimited data line, you CANNOT ever use that upgrade, including transferring it to another line, AND keep unlimited data. When you transfer the upgrade you are effectively renewing the contract and they won't do that with the grandfathered unlimited data lines.
So if your friend/family member is not happy with the Nex, you won't be able to get a new phone for them with that upgrade. That is what I've been told at Verizon and read on this forum. If someone else has different info, please post, I'd love to be wrong!
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TwinsMom said:
Just one note: If the upgrade line that you have coming up in March is the unlimited data line, you CANNOT ever use that upgrade, including transferring it to another line, AND keep unlimited data. When you transfer the upgrade you are effectively renewing the contract and they won't do that with the grandfathered unlimited data lines.
So if your friend/family member is not happy with the Nex, you won't be able to get a new phone for them with that upgrade. That is what I've been told at Verizon and read on this forum. If someone else has different info, please post, I'd love to be wrong!
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you can transfer upgrade to and from an unlimited line without loosing unlimited. you just cannot upgrade on the unlimited line.
Ooh, that's good to know, or at least something to watch out for. So come March when I'm eligible, it sounds like if I want to transfer my upgrade to the line I used to get the moto x, there's a change I'd lose unlimited data? Doesn't seem like I should, but maybe. I'd think it'd just renew my account for another 2, give them the upgrade, but... then how does that work? If line 1 just upgraded to moto x therefore renewing for another 2, what happens when I transfer my upgrade in march? can they just not use it for 2 years still? or is it a "free pass" to get two discounted devices in a row on that line?
Just make sure he doesn't do a straight cross upgrade. He needs to do a regular upgrade on the line with 2 gigs then an equipment change to put it onto your line. An alternate/cross upgrade will kill your unlimited data and Verizon will not give it back
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Just make sure he doesn't do a straight cross upgrade. He needs to do a regular upgrade on the line with 2 gigs then an equipment change to put it onto your line. An alternate/cross upgrade will kill your unlimited data and Verizon will not give it back.
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Thanks! I plan to just do a regular upgrade with the one line that already has a 2GB/mo plan. Activate it there in the store and then leave. I'll do the swapping myself via the Verizon page where you enter the MEID numbers and junk, that way Best Buy doesn't mess anything up. That should work right?
Then simply purchase the dev edition, activate it on my account, then sell off the Best Buy moto x to recoupe costs.
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I just had to call Verizon to unlock my account and happened to ask the guy about swapping phones on the website after upgrading the one line, he said not to do that because it treats swapping phones like that as somehow upgrading both? So instead the guy told me to call Verizon back after just upgrading the one line to swap devices and they'd guarantee I don't lose unlimited data. Hmm...
Mike7143 said:
Thanks! I plan to just do a regular upgrade with the one line that already has a 2GB/mo plan. Activate it there in the store and then leave. I'll do the swapping myself via the Verizon page where you enter the MEID numbers and junk, that way Best Buy doesn't mess anything up. That should work right?
Then simply purchase the dev edition, activate it on my account, then sell off the Best Buy moto x to recoupe costs.
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You will need to buy another nano Sim then. When you deactivate it then put it on your line it will burn the nanosim in the phone itself and won't be able to be used again.
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Well, I did the deed. Went into the store and upgraded the other line to the moto x for $1, had the guy activate it and that was it. About an hour and a half later, I called Verizon and we spent about half hour on the phone swapping phones. Moto x is now on my line with its warranty and Gnex is transferred to the just updated line, 2GB data plan and I'm still on unlimited data. No new sims, no fuss, just a half hour conversation with a nice lady telling me about her warm fur coat while waiting for the phones to swap... Purchased my dev edition moto x already... all that's left is to activate it once it's here, then sell off the 16gb moto x as well as this old Droid X that was left behind in the process.
Best part was when they told me the device was $49.99 and the $1 sale was over and I told them well the sign says $1... they had forgotten to take down a sign at a dedicated Moto X display... win.
So far I'm loving my Developer Edition Moto X! Ordered it and it arrived 2 days later. Successfully have transferred all the phones around and still have my unlimited data plan. Now I just need to sell off the non-developer moto x as well as an old Droid X to recoup costs! Thanks for the input from everyone!
Thanks everyone for the help. I'm a few weeks in now and everything worked out great. Much appreciated! Hopefully this helps others in the same boat unless Verizon changes their policies.
Did you sell the Dev edition?
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Once moto maker becomes available for Verizon (hopefully next week), is it possible to keep unlimited data and get the on contract price and do moto maker? I have a family share plan with 2 lines with unlimited data and 1 line that's a feature phone (no data). I know if I go to the store I can simply transfer an upgrade from one of my unlimited lines to the feature phone line, upgrade it and add a data plan temporarily. Then activate it on that line and get them to then switch it to my unlimited line and cancel the data plan I put on the feature phone line. While that works in store, does anyone know of any way to accomplish that and do moto maker as well? Thanks in advance.
If Vzw goes the Moto Maker pin method, I don't see why not.
Does anyone know the Moto Maker Verizon variant bootloader status?
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yawdapaah said:
If Vzw goes the Moto Maker pin method, I don't see why not.
Does anyone know the Moto Maker Verizon variant bootloader status?
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any carrier branded device will have a locked bootlaoder for VZW. Only way to get an unlocked one is buy a Dev edition at full retail, problem is no access to MotoMaker if oyu buy Dev edition
will2live said:
any carrier branded device will have a locked bootlaoder for VZW. Only way to get an unlocked one is buy a Dev edition at full retail, problem is no access to MotoMaker if oyu buy Dev edition
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I honestly don't care about Moto Maker. I remember reading that all phones purchased via Moto Maker could be boatloader unlocked.
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I honestly don't care about Moto Maker. I remember reading that all phones purchased via Moto Maker could be boatloader unlocked.
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Unfortunately that's not true. Maybe they meant SIM unlocked.
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I honestly don't care about Moto Maker. I remember reading that all phones purchased via Moto Maker could be boatloader unlocked.
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Maybe SIM card unlocked but not bootloader. Honestly that ( bootloader unlock) would make no sense seeing as AT&T is the only company using MotoMaker still and all there devices are locked. That said I dont care either, I buy retail and buy Dev edition anyways. no contract for me & i want my unlimited data still.
Thanks guys. Ordered the Dev Ed for Vzw. :good:
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If Vzw goes the Moto Maker pin method, I don't see why not.
Does anyone know the Moto Maker Verizon variant bootloader status?
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Thanks! How would that work? I don't really know how the moto maker pin works. Would I be able to transfer the upgrade to my non smart phone and then get the moto maker pin, then have the Verizon store rep switch the moto x line to my unlimited data line?
jimmyn89 said:
Thanks! How would that work? I don't really know how the moto maker pin works. Would I be able to transfer the upgrade to my non smart phone and then get the moto maker pin, then have the Verizon store rep switch the moto x line to my unlimited data line?
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AFAIK, you go to the store just like any other upgrade but you don't walk out with the handset. Instead, you get a Pin # that you enter at the Moto Maker website and the phone is shipped to you.
I haven't done an upgrade transfer (one line only) but numerous people on xda and droid-life seem to have done it; you may need to find a rep that knows the procedure though.
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Once moto maker becomes available for Verizon (hopefully next week), is it possible to keep unlimited data and get the on contract price and do moto maker? I have a family share plan with 2 lines with unlimited data and 1 line that's a feature phone (no data). I know if I go to the store I can simply transfer an upgrade from one of my unlimited lines to the feature phone line, upgrade it and add a data plan temporarily. Then activate it on that line and get them to then switch it to my unlimited line and cancel the data plan I put on the feature phone line. While that works in store, does anyone know of any way to accomplish that and do moto maker as well? Thanks in advance.
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Any word on this? I'm also trying to do the same thing, but can't seem to use a transferred upgrade online.
ice20978 said:
Any word on this? I'm also trying to do the same thing, but can't seem to use a transferred upgrade online.
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I'm in the same boat. My rep couldn't do it because of having to leave vzw site to finalize the order. Same on my end. I did ask her about the pin situation and I will report back if she figures anything out. I would just buy the dev edition buy not a big fan of the white and black look.
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I'm in the same boat. My rep couldn't do it because of having to leave vzw site to finalize the order. Same on my end. I did ask her about the pin situation and I will report back if she figures anything out. I would just buy the dev edition buy not a big fan of the white and black look.
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Sounds good - I was thinking about going in to a verizon store to ask about the PIN deal and see if I can get one from a transferred upgrade there. Probably won't be able to get there until Thursday, but I'll report back here with what I find if nothing else comes up first.
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Actually made it in this afternoon, and the reps seemed adamant that even transferring an upgrade would cause the unlimited data to be taken off the original line. So I didn't do anything else at the store.
ice20978 said:
Sounds good - I was thinking about going in to a verizon store to ask about the PIN deal and see if I can get one from a transferred upgrade there. Probably won't be able to get there until Thursday, but I'll report back here with what I find if nothing else comes up first.
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Actually made it in this afternoon, and the reps seemed adamant that even transferring an upgrade would cause the unlimited data to be taken off the original line. So I didn't do anything else at the store.
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I was not able to do it online either. I'm going to try the transfer at a store on Monday to see if I have any better luck.
i've done two moto x upgrades and have unlimited on both lines.
see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2525268
Success (I think)!
I went into my local Verizon store yesterday and had success! The key was using an upgrade from a line without an unlimited data package. I talked with customer care online and they confirmed that if I were to transfer an upgrade to OR from the line with unlimited data, I would lose it. So, in effect, I will have an available upgrade on my unlimited data line (as of next February- see below) that I can never use with a subsidized phone. I also talked to multiple sales reps at the store to confirm they'd be willing to the post-delivery swap for me before pulling the trigger. Here's my situation:
Nationwide Family Share Plan (700 minutes FWIW, but that shouldn't matter)
1) Line 1- Galaxy Nexus w/ unlimited data, upgrade eligible in 2/2014
2) Line 2- Feature phone, upgrade eligible now
Here's what happened:
1) Used the Line 2 upgrade to order a new Moto X with a Motomaker PIN and add (temporarily) to a minimum 2GB plan on that line
2) Went home and completed the order via Moto Maker
Here's what is supposed to happen next:
3) When the phone arrives, activate it on Line 2
4) Re-activate the old Line 2 feature phone, thus deactivating the new Moto X and cancelling the 2GB plan.
5) Put the SIM card from the Line 1 GNex into the Moto X and activate the phone.
Talking to customer care and to the in-store sales reps, it was advised to do steps 3-5 in person at the Verizon store, to make sure it all goes well. I archived my on-line conversation with customer care, so I have a record that indicates I should be able to keep unlimited data, just in case. Doing this will reset the upgrade date on the Line 2 to 11/2015 and not touch Line 1. Of course, as I mentioned above, the Line 1 upgrade is unusable (if I use a subsidized phone), or I will lose my unlimited data on that line.
Phone should arrive next Saturday, 11/23. Can't wait!
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Actually made it in this afternoon, and the reps seemed adamant that even transferring an upgrade would cause the unlimited data to be taken off the original line. So I didn't do anything else at the store.
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Don't believe them. I recently switched the upgrade from my unlimited vzw S4 to another line on my contract through the website and ordered a moto x on that line. I could've then switched the phone over to replace my S4 but it was for my wife so I kept it there. Nothing changed with my unlimited. I too was told several times that doing this exact thing would surrender my unlimited. It didn't.
people who are going in to the stores, asking what's this and how to do this to keep unlimited... STOP!
there's lots of help, including some previous posts (as well as a few helpful reps trolling the interwebz) on the how to... if you're going into a store to purchase a moto maker pin, ONLY tell them that you want to purchase a PIN with an alternate upgrade. all of that other stuff/details/etc. just confuses them and they have to put in their two cents. just go in to do what you need to do and get out.
640k said:
people who are going in to the stores, asking what's this and how to do this to keep unlimited... STOP!
there's lots of help, including some previous posts (as well as a few helpful reps trolling the interwebz) on the how to... if you're going into a store to purchase a moto maker pin, ONLY tell them that you want to purchase a PIN with an alternate upgrade. all of that other stuff/details/etc. just confuses them and they have to put in their two cents. just go in to do what you need to do and get out.
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The problem was that they were not going to let me transfer the upgrade for an in store purchase - they said the "proper" way to do this was to order the upgrade on the line that had it, and then transfer the phone to the alternate line afterwards (which definitely would remove the unlimited data). I dont think I could have convinced them to transfer the upgrade and then give me a PIN at the store I was at...
I ended up just doing it online (non-motomaker), which worked fine, but I'm a little disappointed I couldn't upgrade the storage.
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The problem was that they were not going to let me transfer the upgrade for an in store purchase - they said the "proper" way to do this was to order the upgrade on the line that had it, and then transfer the phone to the alternate line afterwards (which definitely would remove the unlimited data). I dont think I could have convinced them to transfer the upgrade and then give me a PIN at the store I was at...
I ended up just doing it online (non-motomaker), which worked fine, but I'm a little disappointed I couldn't upgrade the storage.
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stores do alternate upgrades all of the time. if you're still in your 14 days, i say go to a different store.
Just left a Verizon store. Was told I wouldnt be able to keep Unlimited by transferring the upgrade from my line to the non unlimited line, told him I wanted to try and see if it would work anyway. He goes through the process And it keeps our plan the same but he remained adamant that a soon as I activated it, it would change the plan. So it looks like I'll be seeing what happens, hoping for the best.
Hi Folks,
So have a question regarding the motomaker option going live for Verizon. I had bought my moto x about a month n half ago from amazon (verizon). Now that the motomaker for verizon is live, is there a way I can get this and return my current phone / get money back...etc???
Really don't wanna shell out $600 twice
iamthebest235 said:
Hi Folks,
So have a question regarding the motomaker option going live for Verizon. I had bought my moto x about a month n half ago from amazon (verizon). Now that the motomaker for verizon is live, is there a way I can get this and return my current phone / get money back...etc???
Really don't wanna shell out $600 twice
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You may have to sell it through Swappa/EBay/Craigslist and use what you get toward the Moto Maker version you want.
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You can't return a device that old As stated, you're only real option is to sell your current one. If it's in excellent condition you could squeeze out a little bit over 400. If you can stick to selling locally to avoid any sellers fees.
I remember when the moto x came out there was talk about being able to send your phone in and get new colors. Maybe it's still coming, but it would be a nice option. Personally I want the development edition, but I don't like the black. I chatted on moto maker and they said it's not possible. I think it's sad that they've put so many artificial restrictions on it.
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iamthebest235 said:
Hi Folks,
So have a question regarding the motomaker option going live for Verizon. I had bought my moto x about a month n half ago from amazon (verizon). Now that the motomaker for verizon is live, is there a way I can get this and return my current phone / get money back...etc???
Really don't wanna shell out $600 twice
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Potentially good news! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522884
Hello, I hardbricked my previous Moto X and Motorola is exchanging it. They gave me a redemption code so I can customize a new Moto X and get it for free. My previous one was with Verizon with a 2 year contract. I haven't paid Verizon anything and haven't activated the previous Moto X for them neither. Should I get the Unlocked GSM Moto X from Moto Maker? Or should I get Verizon again since I did get the previous one with a 2 year contract? I'm asking because I dont want Verizon to charge me the $350 for leaving contract. Or will they?
I do plan on rooting
If you're on Verizon, your only choice is either the Verizon one or the Verizon Developer Edition.
Since I never activated the phone before return/exchange, will I still be paying monthly for Verizon? They don't have my phone's IMEI or ESN or anything.
If you have an active plan with them right now, yeah. They don't care if your phone is working or not. They're still gonna charge you. If you're a new customer and you don't want to use their service, call and cancel and tell them you're returning the phone to Motorola (or listen for their instructions).
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I called Verizon and they said that there's no account in their system because I never activated service. They still will charge?
HeresOtis said:
I called Verizon and they said that there's no account in their system because I never activated service. They still will charge?
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I'm so confused. You bought the phone but didn't sign a contract? Then you have nothing to worry about. If you don't want to use Verizon, return it to Motorola and call it a day. After that you can order any model you want (if they let you).
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I did sign for 2 year contract but didn't activate service.
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I did sign for 2 year contract but didn't activate service.
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If you're a new customer or just signed a new contract, it sounds like you're within the period to return the phone and cancel. Just ask them what they need.
I'm on a family More Everything plan with shared data on Verizon and I finally became eligible for an upgrade. I'd like to know how I could use the upgrade to get a N6. What I've heard is that some people are upgrading to an iPhone 6+ and then selling it, then buying a N6 at full price. But I don't understand the details of that. Wouldn't the iPhone be activated/used at that point? How would I sell it at a new phone price? Also, I heard that Verizon charges a fee if the new phone isn't activated within a certain period after purchase. Would that be a problem if I bought the iPhone first (and didn't activate/open it), resold it, then waited for a N6 to become available to buy?
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I'm on a family More Everything plan with shared data on Verizon and I finally became eligible for an upgrade. I'd like to know how I could use the upgrade to get a N6. What I've heard is that some people are upgrading to an iPhone 6+ and then selling it, then buying a N6 at full price. But I don't understand the details of that. Wouldn't the iPhone be activated/used at that point? How would I sell it at a new phone price? Also, I heard that Verizon charges a fee if the new phone isn't activated within a certain period after purchase. Would that be a problem if I bought the iPhone first (and didn't activate/open it), resold it, then waited for a N6 to become available to buy?
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There is no problem buying a phone on contract, activating it, then giving it to someone else or selling it. The buyer takes a risk that you cancel your contract and skip out on the Etf, in which case Verizon will blacklist the phone. But they will not prevent you from selling the phone or someone else activating it. The buyer simply brings the phone to Verizon to obtain a SIM card.
So if I went into my VZW account online and ordered an iPhone 6+ with my upgrade, would it arrive in a retail box unactivated or does VZW activate it for you with the SIM installed?
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So if I went into my VZW account online and ordered an iPhone 6+ with my upgrade, would it arrive in a retail box unactivated or does VZW activate it for you with the SIM installed?
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It arrives unactivated with a SIM tied to your account. If your intent is to sell, then I would activate it, then switch back to your old phone. You could just sell it unactivated, but your account might get stuck with a pending activation..which might eventually fall off.
Will my old sim remain activated after I activate the new one? I'm upgrading from a DNA which uses a micro sim. If it takes a while to sell the iPhone I'd like to keep using my old phone. I've never sold a phone before.
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Will my old sim remain activated after I activate the new one? I'm upgrading from a DNA which uses a micro sim. If it takes a while to sell the iPhone I'd like to keep using my old phone. I've never sold a phone before.
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It will not. Just go to a Verizon store and they will switch you back for free. Might be able to call and do it.
Hm, so would it make more sense in that case to buy the N6 first (whenever it becomes available), then use my upgrade to get an iPhone and resell it? That way I could immediately activate the sim in the N6 and not even touch the iPhone. Or does the sim have to first be activated with the iPhone because that's what VZW is expecting to see on the account?
Hi,
I have read several threads about this, so I have a basic idea of what will happen, but I just want some specific answers to a few things. Sorry if these particular questions have been addressed already.
I am a long time verizon subscriber. I am on a Nationwide Talk & Text plan with my family. I am not the primary line on the account. I still have unlimited data that I would like to hold on to. My Moto X (1st Gen DE) just took a swim in the washing machine so it's time to upgrade. I would ideally like to get the 64GB N6 from google or moto, but I would settle for the official VZW version if the non-VZW complicates things too much.
So here are my questions:
I know that if I buy from Google/Moto, then the phone will be listed as a non-verizon device. I have seen people talk about how this will make it difficult to change plan options. Is this only the case if my line were the primary line (it isn't)? Or will this cause issues for my family members too if they decide to change things?
I have a nano-sim already from my MotoX. Would activation be easiest if I just popped that into my N6? I know people have had to fight with activating new SIM cards, I just want to know if I have anything in store for me with using my existing SIM card.
Thanks!
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I know that if I buy from Google/Moto, then the phone will be listed as a non-verizon device. I have seen people talk about how this will make it difficult to change plan options. Is this only the case if my line were the primary line (it isn't)? Or will this cause issues for my family members too if they decide to change things?
I have a nano-sim already from my MotoX. Would activation be easiest if I just popped that into my N6? I know people have had to fight with activating new SIM cards, I just want to know if I have anything in store for me with using my existing SIM card.
Thanks!
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1st question: I'm not sure.
2nd question: No activation required. Just put your MotoX SIM in your N6.
3rd answer to unasked question: Be aware that only the IMEI for VZW devices are white listed. This means you won't receive a BYOD discount if you activate a non VZW version.
dcoryh192 said:
Hi,
I have read several threads about this, so I have a basic idea of what will happen, but I just want some specific answers to a few things. Sorry if these particular questions have been addressed already.
I am a long time verizon subscriber. I am on a Nationwide Talk & Text plan with my family. I am not the primary line on the account. I still have unlimited data that I would like to hold on to. My Moto X (1st Gen DE) just took a swim in the washing machine so it's time to upgrade. I would ideally like to get the 64GB N6 from google or moto, but I would settle for the official VZW version if the non-VZW complicates things too much.
So here are my questions:
I know that if I buy from Google/Moto, then the phone will be listed as a non-verizon device. I have seen people talk about how this will make it difficult to change plan options. Is this only the case if my line were the primary line (it isn't)? Or will this cause issues for my family members too if they decide to change things?
I have a nano-sim already from my MotoX. Would activation be easiest if I just popped that into my N6? I know people have had to fight with activating new SIM cards, I just want to know if I have anything in store for me with using my existing SIM card.
Thanks!
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Technically VZW reserves the right to give you trouble anytime it's not a VZW device. Interestingly enough the new legal precendence requires carriers to allow their devices to be carrier unlocked, but does not require them to accept devices on to their network whenever they see fit. Its sort of hit and miss. There are a lot of folks who have the GPE version and no issues, others that have had a lot of issue. The "safest" bet is to get a VZW N6 at retail and roll with it.
SIMs are typically swappable, so long as they are the same form factor. I just got my N6 Friday and took the SIM out of my old phone, put it right in my N6. The switch over was without issue.
Thanks for the guidance!
cam30era said:
3rd answer to unasked question: Be aware that only the IMEI for VZW devices are white listed. This means you won't receive a BYOD discount if you activate a non VZW version.
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Apparently the BYOD discount (technically just "out-of-contract" discount, apparently) doesn't apply on my old NationWide plan, so this isn't really an issue unless we upgrade to MoreEverything. I don't remember whether it is possible to upgrade the plan and keep unlimited data.
NetworkingPro said:
There are a lot of folks who have the GPE version and no issues, others that have had a lot of issue. The "safest" bet is to get a VZW N6 at retail and roll with it.
SIMs are typically swappable, so long as they are the same form factor. I just got my N6 Friday and took the SIM out of my old phone, put it right in my N6. The switch over was without issue.
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Both the MotoX and N6 have nano-sims, so no cutting required. Just out of curiosity, are you running the VZW or GPE?
dcoryh192 said:
Thanks for the guidance!
Apparently the BYOD discount (technically just "out-of-contract" discount, apparently) doesn't apply on my old NationWide plan, so this isn't really an issue unless we upgrade to MoreEverything. I don't remember whether it is possible to upgrade the plan and keep unlimited data.
Both the MotoX and N6 have nano-sims, so no cutting required. Just out of curiosity, are you running the VZW or GPE?
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dcoryh192 said:
Thanks for the guidance!
Apparently the BYOD discount (technically just "out-of-contract" discount, apparently) doesn't apply on my old NationWide plan, so this isn't really an issue unless we upgrade to MoreEverything. I don't remember whether it is possible to upgrade the plan and keep unlimited data.
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No, you'll loose unlimited data if you change to the Edge plan.
Welcome. And BTW; there's a button for that.
Thanks again for the help!
I think I will go with the unlocked version from Moto. If I have issues with Verizon, then I can return it within 14 days and go back to the VZW Edition.