My z1.touch.doesn't work.under water and when i get it.out of water is doesn't work for.almost a minute
Does it have anything related with water temperature... Because it is really cold in Egypt nowadays
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3bdalr7man said:
My z1.touch.doesn't work.under water and when i get it.out of water is doesn't work for.almost a minute
Does it have anything related with water temperature... Because it is really cold in Egypt nowadays
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The touch screen simply can't work underwater, it's just the physics of how it works. Also when it's wet it can work improperly as well. I've found though that when it's wet, if you turn the screen off then on again, it seems to remember where all the water drops are and learns to ignore them, meaning it will work quite well despite the water.
And I'm sorry, but it is not and nor has it ever been cold in Egypt . It's negative 23 C where I am from right now. That is cold
Thank you
That was helpful
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3bdalr7man said:
My z1.touch.doesn't work.under water and when i get it.out of water is doesn't work for.almost a minute
Does it have anything related with water temperature... Because it is really cold in Egypt nowadays
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Is this even an issue, considering it has a physical hardware button ?
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Is this even an issue, considering it has a physical hardware button ?
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I don't think so. Mine under water, 2cm under clean water in a glass, do not working either. No signal, no touch screen, nothing. Probably it's meant to be like that, a kind of safety.
eclyptos said:
I don't think so. Mine under water, 2cm under clean water in a glass, do not working either. No signal, no touch screen, nothing. Probably it's meant to be like that, a kind of safety.
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It is a capacitive touch screen, which means that it senses your finger because it has a different conductivity than the air around it. So does water, so the water is detected across the entire touch screen and prevents the screen from differentiating your finger and all of the water.
Based on @301stSpartan's post it sounds like the touch screen has some capability to ignore inputs it thinks are invalid. I tested this a little bit and it seems to be true:
1) Lock the phone, turning the screen off.
2) Use your thumb to cover a large area of the screen.
3) Turn the screen back on, remove your thumb and quickly try to swipe where you placed your thumb. For about 0.5s, the screen will not respond to your finger. After that, it will work normally.
@xasbo, that why I said is not an issue. Even if there is some trick to make it work the touch screen I don't even try and is not the touch screen dead only under water, the signal too. We can just make pictures because maybe this is his reason.
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@xasbo, that why I said is not an issue. Even if there is some trick to make it work the touch screen I don't even try and is not the touch screen dead only under water, the signal too. We can just make pictures because maybe this is his reason.
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Sure, I was just pointing out it's not a safety thing - there's no risk of electrocution or anything like that.
xasbo said:
Sure, I was just pointing out it's not a safety thing - there's no risk of electrocution or anything like that.
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Of curse, you right, but who knows..
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Hey everyone.
A few months ago I dropped my phone for the first time. It turned out that the screen had gotten a large crack down through the middle, running all the way from the top to the bottom. I tried using it, and the touch capabilities didn't seem to be affected, so basically it was just cosmetic at first.
But this afternoon, after having used it lightly since morning without issues, the phone suddenly started responding weird to touch. Whenever I touch the screen, it registers touches all over the screen, and I'm not even able to dial in my pin code after rebooting.
Does anyone have an idea what might have happened, what is broken, and how much it will set me back to fix it?
BTW, the phone arrived with a red pixel, I noticed it once when booting up, but thought it was just a bug or something. Later I found out that is actually a fault with the phone, and most companies have dead pixel policies, I'm wondering, is it possible to return the phone for a new because of the red pixel?
Thank you for your time.
I think it will be a little hard to prove that dead pixel after being cracked. If you have some skills, you can change it yourself, its not very hard and you can find the screen on the internet.
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RuedasLocas said:
I think it will be a little hard to prove that dead pixel after being cracked. If you have some skills, you can change it yourself, its not very hard and you can find the screen on the internet.
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That does sound good, but aren't the glass (The outermost layer) and the touchscreen two different things entirely?
Thank you.
Well what do you know, it started working again! Well, atleast for now.
Thanks for the advice
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Does anyone have an idea what might have happened, what is broken,
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...I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's the huge crack down the middle of the screen? :good:
Seriously, though.. capacitive touch-screens measure changes in the resistance across a thin layer on top of the glass. So if you bend it somehow, or damage it (say, stretch it because the glass underneath cracks), then the resistance won't be picked up, or it will be registered inaccurately. So it might work for a while, or work reasonably well. Know a guy who smashed his iPhone.. sat on it, actually.. and it worked with "cracked" glass (that was held together by the layer on top of the glass, right) until he bought another iPhone. *shrug* He talked about it a lot, but it didn't seem to really make a difference on the actual phone.
Anyone is experiencing this tipe of problem?
When I press (very softly) the border of my phone I see a liquid crystal wave like when you press with a finger on a computer monitor.
This problem is localized only in one spot: on the left side about two centimeters from the bottom.
I.e. Put your finger just above the navigation bar or slightly higher and press to the right on the glass stripe of the side. Of course this is difficult to see on white background so maybe try on a coloured background.
Can this be eligible for a repair under warranty or this is not a real problem?
Thanks for your feedback!
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Not a real problem.
Everyone has that.
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R: Lcd 'wave' when pressing the border
Ok thanks, just bad construction i like very much this phone, just wanted to be sure it isn't only my problem
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So every computer monitor is badly constructed? Try dropping a computer monitor in the floor outside and see how well that works.
The Sony reportedly uses a softer glass so that it is more flexible and bends instead of simply breaking.
Have to say this is the most sturdy phone I've owned. Stop pressing the screen in lol.
also they dont use the technology the other LCD manufacturerers use thats the air gap between LCD and the glass , thats the reason u get precision
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So every computer monitor is badly constructed? Try dropping a computer monitor in the floor outside and see how well that works.
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I think you can catch the difference between the use u have with a phone and the use you have with a computer monitor, right? Or you keep pressing on your monitor hoping this will evolve to touchscreen?
The Sony reportedly uses a softer glass so that it is more flexible and bends instead of simply breaking.
Have to say this is the most sturdy phone I've owned. Stop pressing the screen in lol.
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I don't pass my time pressing that part of the screen i just noticed that playing angry birds
my last question is: this "waves" damage the screen/lcd or whatever else or i just don't have to worry about them?
My xperia Z has been exposed to tiny amount of fluid through the headphone jack, im using stock rom, but with doomkernel v9, after exposed to the little amount of fluid, it suddenly shut down and turn on again, but then the rom appear what it says at the bottom left "Safe Mode", at first i thought theres nothing to worry about, just reboot then everything back to normal... but when i done that, the LED indicator show Red color, vibrate once, few second later it vibrate 3 times and it begins to do that over and over again without even entering the boot screen... now i cant get the rom booted... Help me, what must i do?? Can i get it to work again by drying it up using a hair dryer???
It's dead, red LED, vibrate > 2 sec > 3x vibrate and reboot is an unrecoverable hardware fault.
Whatever you do, don't use heat. Put it in a bowl of dry rice with all flaps open for a day or two to absorb the liquid. If that doesn't help there is nothing to do.
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leave it in rice for a few weeks since its water resistant it will tak longer to absorb anything.
Copypasta from another thread I posted in:
Vacuum/hair-dryer are both bad ideas for electronics. The vacuum is bad because it creates a lot of static electricity, and the hair-dryer because, obviously, it heats the phone up to high temperatures.
What you should do immediately is to turn it off (hold Power and Volume up until it vibrates thrice), open all the flaps and put the phone in a bag of rice, letting the rice absorb the water for around a week or so (or at the very least 3-4 days), preferably with a drained/removed battery but this isn't really an option with Xperia Z. After this you need to make sure to get all the rice out before closing the flaps and starting it up.
Fingers crossed nothing has short circuited and/or corroded yet!
Please note: leave the phone in the rice for at least a full week with all flaps open and removable components taken out.
Thanks for the reply guys, and yeah old tricks using a bag of rice... erm, does a silica gel helps, because im using it now... hopefully...
killgrozrism said:
Thanks for the reply guys, and yeah old tricks using a bag of rice... erm, does a silica gel helps, because im using it now... hopefully...
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The silica should work better than the rice.
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XperienceD said:
The silica should work better than the rice.
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Owh ****! I really hate this kinda situation... really got me down and depressing...
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Owh ****! I really hate this kinda situation... really got me down and depressing...
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Hope it's OK. And yeah, as he said, the silica will work even better that's what it's designed for after all.
Why is nobody putting forward the fact that the OP's phone might be permanently damaged? It was powered on with fluid inside it, which may have shorted out some critical components.
In that case, no amount of time in rice or silica will do any good.
Edit, I see Rekoil mentioned shorting/corrosion above. While getting the phone near absorbent material quickly may prevent corrosion, it's likely that any shorting out of components would have happened instantly. I hope the OP's phone isn't destroyed, but I wouldn't hold much hope for it as powering on a device with fluid inside it is pretty much the worst thing that you can do.
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kingvortex said:
Why is nobody putting forward the fact that the OP's phone might be permanently damaged? It was powered on with fluid inside it, which may have shorted out some critical components.
In that case, no amount of time in rice or silica will do any good.
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Because OP probably knows that and it would be of no use to discuss it?
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Because OP probably knows that and it would be of no use to discuss it?
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You'd think. But then you'd think that sense would dictate immediately powering off the device in the situation they were in.
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You'd think. But then you'd think that sense would dictate immediately powering off the device in the situation they were in.
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You gotta learn one way or another.
Rekoil said:
You gotta learn one way or another.
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The possible loss of a really expensive phone is a hard lesson to learn, but yes I agree that everyone learns somehow.
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Lesson learn, dont take for granted the water resistant features... Hope ill be able to get my phone to boot again by trying out the rice/silica method... Thanks y'all!
I've had exactly ther same problem with my Z.
The jack connector with the water sensor is really bad placed!
I've listened to music under the rain with an umbrella, i've just taken one drop directly on the sensor, so now i've the detector totally red but my phone works perfectly, when i've contacted Sony they said that not taking in charge of warranty :'(
Just be carefull with your phone if you're listening to music with this jack connector or use blutooth headset.
killgrozrism said:
Lesson learn, dont take for granted the water resistant features... Hope ill be able to get my phone to boot again by trying out the rice/silica method... Thanks y'all!
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Don't take them for granted, but that doesn't mean they are completely unreliable. Just really make sure the flaps are closed and you'll be fine.
QualQuek said:
I've had exactly ther same problem with my Z.
The jack connector with the water sensor is really bad placed!
I've listened to music under the rain with an umbrella, i've just taken one drop directly on the sensor, so now i've the detector totally red but my phone works perfectly, when i've contacted Sony they said that not taking in charge of warranty :'(
Just be carefull with your phone if you're listening to music with this jack connector or use blutooth headset.
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Getting a Bluetooth headset was a pretty obvious decision for me I must say.
QualQuek said:
I've had exactly ther same problem with my Z.
The jack connector with the water sensor is really bad placed!
I've listened to music under the rain with an umbrella, i've just taken one drop directly on the sensor, so now i've the detector totally red but my phone works perfectly, when i've contacted Sony they said that not taking in charge of warranty :'(
Just be carefull with your phone if you're listening to music with this jack connector or use blutooth headset.
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While I agree with the sentiment that you should indeed be careful with the phone, the water ingress tape is in exactly the right place. The water resistance is compromised with the flap open (even with headphones connected), therefore the tape is positioned to indicate that the flap was open when contact with water was made
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While I agree with the sentiment that you should indeed be careful with the phone, the water ingress tape is in exactly the right place. The water resistance is compromised with the flap open (even with headphones connected), therefore the tape is positioned to indicate that the flap was open when contact with water was made
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Which is why this is such a good idea for this reason as well.
Rekoil said:
Don't take them for granted, but that doesn't mean they are completely unreliable. Just really make sure the flaps are closed and you'll be fine.
Getting a Bluetooth headset was a pretty obvious decision for me I must say.
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Indeed that a wise choice, sadly i've bought with my a Bose OE2 in same time as my Xperia Z...
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Indeed that a wise choice, sadly i've bought with my a Bose OE2 in same time as my Xperia Z...
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So buy a Sony SBH50 or something. That way you can use your regular headphones and still not have to open the flap for them.
How can you tell if the HTC One has water damage? My phone seems to be fine, but I had to put on the Xtremetech Screen protector and squiging the device led to a few droplets of soapy water to touch my dual speakers and sides. I don't think there is water damage, but I want to be sure about it. Thanks.
nviz22 said:
How can you tell if the HTC One has water damage? My phone seems to be fine, but I had to put on the Xtremetech Screen protector and squiging the device led to a few droplets of soapy water to touch my dual speakers and sides. I don't think there is water damage, but I want to be sure about it. Thanks.
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The camera flash should turn red.
The camera flash is normal. Nothing red like at all.
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nviz22 said:
The camera flash is normal. Nothing red like at all.
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Then the water sensor didn't trip. As long as your phone is working, I guess its okay. I usually stay away from wet install screen protectors.
Simple question.
Is the screen touchable underwater ?
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beni8978 said:
Simple question.
Is the screen touchable underwater ?
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No, it bounces all over the shop.
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I don't get it.
The Z's screen isn't touchable and the z1's?
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beni8978 said:
I don't get it.
The Z's screen isn't touchable and the z1's?
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The phone is waterproof upto 1.5 metres but the screen will not function fully submerged. In the shower or in the rain will be fine.
Corrected this post as I originally said water resistant.
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beni8978 said:
I don't get it.
The Z's screen isn't touchable and the z1's?
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Read up on how capacitive screens works.
None work under water!
Sorry to jump in like that, BUT actually the Z1 is promoted as being waterproof and not water-resistant... I would expect that to imply resistance to water submerge.
What do you think?
giophil said:
Sorry to jump in like that, BUT actually the Z1 is promoted as being waterproof and not water-resistant... I would expect that to imply resistance to water submerge.
What do you think?
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Ok so the phone is waterproof to 1.5 metres for 30 minutes but the screen is not meant to function under water. When I said shower and rain I was referring to the screen still functioning Ok.
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I believe the fact that the touchscreen doesn't work under water was also the reason why sony put the hardware camera button on it so you can take pics/video underwater
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Sorry to jump in like that, BUT actually the Z1 is promoted as being waterproof and not water-resistant... I would expect that to imply resistance to water submerge.
What do you think?
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The definition of Waterproof proves that you are wrong in your arguments.
The definition of waterproof is as follows(Oxford dictionary):
Impervious - Not permitting or allowing something to pass, in this case it's water - to water So basically waterproof means that yor device will not permit passage to water but nowhere does it say that the touchscreen should work because touchscreens demand direct contact with your finger. Try using a touch enabled phone when it's raining and you will quickly realize that some touches are not recognized
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The definition of Waterproof proves that you are wrong in your arguments.
The definition of waterproof is as follows(Oxford dictionary):
Impervious - Not permitting or allowing something to pass, in this case it's water - to water So basically waterproof means that yor device will not permit passage to water but nowhere does it say that the touchscreen should work because touchscreens demand direct contact with your finger. Try using a touch enabled phone when it's raining and you will quickly realize that some touches are not recognized
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I actually never implied that it does... i just said that waterproof means capable of water submerge...
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I actually never implied that it does... i just said that waterproof means capable of water submerge...
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Ohh read your comment again, didn't read it in context