Hi iam new here
I have s advance with android 4.1.2 stock rom and with cocore e 6.2 kernal
The problem is I like playing games on my phone like asphalt 8 but sometimes it lags and
Crash because of low free ram , the used ram is about 515 . So I heard about a method to increase
Ram capacity by swap partion . So I was wondring if this method works on my phone ? and will it
Make Games run faster and wont make any problems to the phone ?
Please respond
Thanx
AFAIK those things are for phones with only 512 MB (or less) RAM.. I also heard that using your external SD card as ram for long time can damage it. But I don't know if that's true...
Like many other latest games, Asphalt 8 is a very "heavy" game.. so it requires newer and better hardware.. our phone's GPU can't handle this game with ease so that's why it lags... so its not only because of RAM, its also because of the GPU and CPU.. so I don't think it will make any drastic increase in performance or fps..
Take a look at CoCore's thread.. I think Cocafe mentioned how to use zRam and Swap using init.d scripts..
PS: Use a good Custom ROM with the latest version of CoCore kernel.. version 6.2 is quite old.. or use CM ROMs...
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Sami Kabir said:
AFAIK those things are for phones with only 512 MB (or less) RAM.. I also heard that using your external SD card as ram for long time can damage it. But I don't know if that's true...
Like many other latest games, Asphalt 8 is a very "heavy" game.. so it requires newer and better hardware.. our phone's GPU can't handle this game with ease so that's why it lags... so its not only because of RAM, its also because of the GPU and CPU.. so I don't think it will make any drastic increase in performance or fps..
Take a look at CoCore's thread.. I think Cocafe mentioned how to use zRam and Swap using init.d scripts..
PS: Use a good Custom ROM with the latest version of CoCore kernel.. version 6.2 is quite old.. or use CM ROMs...
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Thanks for replaying . not only asphalt 8 lags but also some other games like sonic dash and temple run ..etc
And I downloaded and installed cocore e 8 it made my battry runs out fast so installed cocore 6.2 which saves battry .
And idont know alot about custom roms but you may tell me the best one and has no bugs .
CM 10.2 latest build is very good. Extremely stable. Battery is decent, still less than satisfactory. No bugs AFAIK . No random reboots. No force closes. Games that work very smoothly - temple run (all versions),subway surfers, dead trigger 1 & 2 ,GTA vice city.
Asphalt 8 lags when started but settles down afterwards and works decently.
P.S. - Don't judge your phone performance on basis of used RAM. Jelly bean is supposed to use more RAM.
Hope I helped.
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Hello guys my problem today is heavy games like mass effects and asphalt 6
Problem is my phone runs those games slowly very slowly and I think it should be faster than this but why heavy games are slowly if we compare it with iPhone 4 (has same processor speed)iPhone runs them very fast so should I do something to run them vary fastwithout hangs thnx
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Try closing some background apps. Performance also depends on what android version you run (but I don't think you use Froyo, gingerbread is way better )
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GPU in Black is not first class. Actually it's rather old and even if CPU speed is the same than in Apple then GPU is much way weaker.
Can I use chainfire???!!!!
chainfire will make only things worse - it will emulate another GPU...
Sorry I mislead you - GPU in IPhone4 is comparable with that in Black - IPhone4S
just crashes Black's...
I don't have those games so I can't check how it run at my config. But Real Racing 2 runs fine on Black.
thats wierd cause, if my mind doesn't trick me, I remember when first using my OB for first time, a year ago or something, it had froyo and asphalt6HD and I spend hours playing it without problem before I even know about this forum...
now with the big wave of new roms, you can play almost anything you want
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chainfire will make only things worse - it will emulate another GPU...
Sorry I mislead you - GPU in IPhone4 is comparable with that in Black - IPhone4S
just crashes Black's...
I don't have those games so I can't check how it run at my config. But Real Racing 2 runs fine on Black.
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Sorry but I tried it with chainfire it's faster
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But also chainfire make graphics very very bad!!!!
no another solution (I'm using cm7)
I'm closing all apps before starting but it also hangs
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GPU in Black is not first class. Actually it's rather old and even if CPU speed is the same than in Apple then GPU is much way weaker.
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that is absolutely not true!!!!....the GPU of black is still on par with most mid range droids rolling over adreno 200/205.
and of the Iphone, i feel u r comparing OB with iPhone 4 and not 4S, since they are on par. iPhone 4's GPU is as much powerful as OB's. the optimization is of the light (read "flash" free )OS
my OB plays most games seriously well... i feel it's a seriously well balanced device for the price range.
@hemo ali: try and use a task manager before your game start to clear off and release RAM. and avoid intensive apps like browsing, streaming etc while playing.
or better yet, get zeus/marvel
thnx for advice I hope to use zeus or marvel but my problem is in rtl support
is Zeus or Marvel supports rtl???
also what about graphics can I use chainfire without getting worse graphics??
okay another big problem after installing chainfire drivers And i noticed it goes well
but now another big problem(priority is very high)phone full hangs and stopped 4time/1day And I should release battery then put it again why is it related with chinfire???!!
I use cm7.2 rc3 with heux 4.0 kernerl, with chain fire 3d with smartass2 governer.
I play asphalt6, st iv and ShadowGun.
I dont find any perofrmance issues.
The games some time lag, and I see in CPU spy the CPU is stuck at 300 Mhz, killing the game and relaunching it fixes it. I see in CPU spy that CPU is scalled at 1 Ghz
I use Zeus 6.28n and i play both games + front line commando.. and i have no lag and works fine. i didn't change any frequency.. i use RARELY the memory booster when i switch from game to game..
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Now don't get me wrong, it's still quite playable, but I'm comparing the performance on CM10 to the performance when I was on CM7.
Back when I was on CM7.2, I still played on the lowest graphics settings possible for Dead Trigger. This was because I was after the buttery smooth, close to 60FPS frame rate; on medium or high settings, Im guessing I'd only get about 35-40.
After I updated to CM10 nightly official, I never experienced a single second of the pure smoothness on the LOWEST graphics setting.
It'd be like playing on medium or high settings, except for the fact that it was actually on low...
What do you guys think could be the problem? One of my main concerns is the low RAM; on CM 7.2, on average I had 180-210 MB free. Now on CM10, on average its 120-150. I don't use any particularly RAM consuming apps apart from Viber perhaps, but that didn't affect my RAM on CM7 much at all.
I assume it's the RAM.
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In my experience, the games in CM10 runs, at least, as good as in CM7. Maybe you had an custom (overclocked) kernel in CM7 ?
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In my experience, the games in CM10 runs, at least, as good as in CM7. Maybe you had an custom (overclocked) kernel in CM7 ?
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No, I definitely not have an over clocked processor on CM7...
Like I said, I'm almost sure that it's caused by the low amount of RAM our phone has. If our phone gets down to like 30mb RAM it starts to lag pretty bad in games (at least that's what I noticed. If the game is running and uses so much RAM that it gets filled up almost entirely). The overall performance drops a bit too but our phone remains smooth.
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In my opinion the blame is on ram. When my phone has little ram, games have more lag in the begining of the game. When ram is empty, the game is lagless...
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In my opinion the blame is on ram. When my phone has little ram, games have more lag in the begining of the game. When ram is empty, the game is lagless...
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I'am shure our perfect dev's will build oc kernel with ramhack and zram so we can enjoy all games and demanding app's :good:
i too experience lag while playing asphalt7 on cm10....it used to work fine on pa jb..
dead trigger works very fine for me, better than was on cm7. The fact is i don't heave many aplications installed, and i assume maybe this will be the explenation.
Yeah I am finding firefox more laggy on CM10 compared to CM7.....I assume this is due to having less free memory on CM10
One advice,install systemtuner app,turn off the process you don't want to startup wih phone and also freeze some apps you don't want to eat your memory
Restart phone after that and you can have free about 188mb at startup for demanding games
Yes, im use ram booster, and not have problem lags
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MY LG 4x HD have some lags in the game, not in hard core games , than poor games. It is for such a powerful phone very strange, and he has 1 GB of RAM , but for me is free just 300MB ... this is normal or what?
AW: Please help me, I'm confused
Go back to ICS.
On ICS I was having 400-600 Mb free.
But all games in this time consumed maximum 170Mb (Shadowgun THD)
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Nemeziz 56th said:
Go back to ICS.
On ICS I was having 400-600 Mb free.
But all games in this time consumed maximum 170Mb (Shadowgun THD)
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I understand you.. When I bin on ICS , I have about 400MB ram...But I have lags on poor games and on ICS and know on JB...This are not big lags, bus every 2-3 min playing , lags me on secund, and further is all ok..sorry on my bed english...im from cro
someone told " free RAM is wasted RAM " and this is true ....
games lags because bad LG SW, thats all...
mmm273 said:
someone told " free RAM is wasted RAM " and this is true ....
games lags because bad LG SW, thats all...
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Yep, you are correct, free ram means nothing on linux based OS such as android. Best gaming roms currently are ICS v10d and JB v20b, they run games the best because the overheat protection is not as aggressive, but don't worry your phone won't cook
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i ran all games on v10H without problems of lag.what can make the issue appear or worse is running so many apps in the background,not all apps are made with good capabilitlys of being low on resources while in the background,remember launchers ect are still running while your gaming,they are still taking up resources even though its not on your screen
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i ran all games on v10H without problems of lag.what can make the issue appear or worse is running so many apps in the background,not all apps are made with good capabilitlys of being low on resources while in the background,remember launchers ect are still running while your gaming,they are still taking up resources even though its not on your screen
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Which games? Only certain ones were affected
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Hi , that´s my opinion
Twice 10.1 or JB port , have a problem with battery duration (and other minor bugs)
the game play are so laggy ,and you really have a slow experience with diary use.
AOkp I think that is trustworthy to the JB use. but the same with lag .
Thanks for your work !!!! and I hope you get new roms updates.
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jelly bean requires a lot of more RAM than GB. That's why there is some lag, I suggest to use smartassv2 as CPU governor if you need performance, if you need to save battery use interactiveX.
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jelly bean requires a lot of more RAM than GB. That's why there is some lag, I suggest to use smartassv2 as CPU governor if you need performance, if you need to save battery use interactiveX.
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Is it possible to fix the camera now?. Since preview problem seems to be known now?
i tried installing cm-10.1-20130629-UNOFFICIAL-jena today but get an error 7.
factory reset, cache partition and dalvik cache have been wiped, i`m using cwm 6.0.3.2.
versioncm-10.1-20130611-UNOFFICIAL-jena works without any problems.
what could i be doing wrong ?
edit: i returned to the working version and flashed it new because i finally wanted to get rid of the gapps package i installed before.
however even after flashing 0611 again gapps still seem to be on my system.
do i have to wipe anything else i`m not aware of ? the target is a cyanogen 0611 or 0629 without any gapps
do you have cwm 6.0.3.2 build 4 ?
ohh! it`s build 3 actually!
thx a lot! will give it a try at once
no problem
it worked perfectly thanks again!
the only thing i`m still facing is that gapps still seem to be on the system from a previous installation, although i wiped the 3 settings mentioned above.
is 0629 supposed to have the play store, services and other google named services? can i get rid of them somehow?
edit: solved, i had to format /system /data /cache. now gapps and other parts of the previous installations are definitely gone. happy happy!
The performance greatly depends on the game you're playing. Currently with CM10 20130629 (the NFC patch doesn't work, BTW) I have good performance with Icy Tower 2, but micro lags on Jetpack Joyride. Of course both of these games run perfectly on stock, but Icy Tower 2 has some graphical glitches not appearing on JB. But Jetpack Joyride is a lazy port from iOS and it can stutter even on better phones. But the overall performance is just fluid. Will test Vice City later to see if a lot has changed since April 2013, when I lastly tested VC on CM10.
those "micro lags" are because of RAM. I had an old PC with 256MB (!) RAM like 5-6 years ago, when I played NFSMW, I would get freezes/lags each 3-5 seconds, the loading screen took ages to load, then I put in another 512MB and everything was fine. No lags/freezes, loading screens didn't load forever etc.
On cm10 and cm9 for less ram usage i went to Developer options, scrolled to the bottom and set background processes to 1 or 0.
There are no these options on cm10.1, right? I dont know did you mean slow ramread/write or high usage with old pc example...
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Ahh...the old-school NFSMW - one of my favorite games of all time.
But Android manages RAM differently than Windows, so 512MB shouldn't be a problem because it runs file on stock 2.3.6.
Looks like Jetpack Joyride stutters when there are certain sprites drawn. Seems to be some kind of GPU thing. If GTA VC runs better than this, I'll uninstall this crap.
That was just an example that RAM matter a lot in games. Temple Run 2 uses >100MB. Imaging what more demanding games require. I have about ~50-60MB free RAM when the phone is idle.
I have 210 at idle and still same lag and low fps as it is when 120 is free
Edit: cm9 has more than 100mb/s faster ram read speed than cm10, .1, aokp. And it has performance as good on 800mhz as cm10 has at 1.05ghz. Stock rom read is 500 mb/s, cm9 450, cm10 350
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Well, looks like that's the problem. I noticed that actually earlier when people were posting benchmark results, everything was higher than on stock, except for the RAM speed.
I guess there's nothing to do about it? It's all in the kernel.
Probably gpu performance depends on ram speed... So improving ram speed will improve gaming performance and overal performance of the device in cm9, cm10, cm10.1 and aokp.
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thanks for your job TheWhisp CM 10.1 is awesome like you thank you very much
I don't know which games you play but I play various gba roms and hacks via my boy emulator and it is very smooth. those temple run etc. do not appeal to me. If they were then probably I would have bought a better phone. but know this. Mini 2 is not a phone to play games.
oh and a question to @TheWhisp cm10.1 or aokp. whats the difference. which one do you prefer?
You fixed camera using same liboemcamera?
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hi guys!!!
i love to play games on my phone
(shadow gun) or some action games but my phone always lag i cant play on focus...
the only rom that play no lag on me is liquid smooth, but i want to use other rom..
does this because other roms got problem? or it was just me and my phone got problem?
or maybe because i use class 4 micro sd card?
should i change to class 10?
tnx....
laloy said:
hi guys!!!
i love to play games on my phone
(shadow gun) or some action games but my phone always lag i cant play on focus...
the only rom that play no lag on me is liquid smooth, but i want to use other rom..
does this because other roms got problem? or it was just me and my phone got problem?
or maybe because i use class 4 micro sd card?
should i change to class 10?
tnx....
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So beyond updating to the latest 4.4 roms theres not alot i or anyone can do.
For gaming im recommending the p880-dev kernel, seems to pull the highest 3D scores in antutu at the lowest frequencies.
Games will continue to get more demanding, while our phones performance is not going to receive proportional performance increases. Any gaming platform will have this issue.
and no, an sdcard will not improve performance, rather will possibly load the game faster
got it then.....
tnx
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So beyond updating to the latest 4.4 roms theres not alot i or anyone can do.
For gaming im recommending the p880-dev kernel, seems to pull the highest 3D scores in antutu at the lowest frequencies.
Games will continue to get more demanding, while our phones performance is not going to receive proportional performance increases. Any gaming platform will have this issue.
and no, an sdcard will not improve performance, rather will possibly load the game faster
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What kernel is it? I can't find it. Do you mean the kernel provided with 4.4 android ROMs?
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What kernel is it? I can't find it. Do you mean the kernel provided with 4.4 android ROMs?
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Yip thats the one.
but not all of them, just the ones based on p880-dev sources (so not cm official and a few others)
I use automate it pro to set gpu at 600mhz and goveror to performance when opening a game and everything is perfectly smooth
Not for me... For some reason cm official is much more smoother for me
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