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As far as I can tell, the new Telstra HTC Velocity is a Holiday/Vivid/Raider which has to be the most complciated mess off device renames I've seen in a while.
I have the option comming up at my work to go for 1 of three phones.
1. HTC Velocity on Telstra(holiday/vivid/raider)
2. Galaxy Nexus on Telstra
3. Galaxy S II (first version, on telstra)
SO this is addressed to people who own this handset, or a few handsets. DO you think I should go for the Velocity, or one of the others, if so why?
The Velocity has the fastest cpu (telstra version is 1.5Ghtz) and is the only one with LTE, however I'm not the biggest fan of Sense UI and I don't live or work in an LTE zone yet, wont be getting an LTE upgrade here for another 6 months. and the nexus appears to have a higher resolution screen.
Anyway, I'm incomming from a HTC HD2, which is awesome for flashing and such but mine is getting old and overheating so I will be glad to move on, does anyone know my chances of flashing roms/rooting the HTC Velocity easily?
Hey David,
Im currently using the SGS2 and LOVE it, but i do live in a 4G zone, i took home the demo today, and am doing some research on flashing as i am a bit of a nerd/freak when it comes to these things, and use alot of apps that require Root, so without that, its a no go for me... but the speed is PHENOMENAL! amazing, and to be quite honest, even on standard 3G/NextG gets far better coverage and 3G speeds than my galaxy, 10mb/s on the Velocity - on 3G and only 3MB/s on the Galaxy s2... I am cm's away from buying it
Hope this helps and if anyone has any more news, or if you can use Vivid/Raider ROMS on the velocity, as it has the same op sys... and sence... let me know!!!
cheers
So you would say the velocity is much better than the galaxy s ii?
Thank you
Got my HTC Velocity 4G today.
Managed to get boot loader unlocked via HTCDev but device is still S-On
Will try rooting and will update you guys
Yea iirc the HTCDev tool don't give you S-off, it just allows you to flash a new rom.
If you want to flash a new radio you will need S-off.
Keep us updated how you go flashing a new rom, ty.
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Ive had my HTC Vivid on ATT for about a month. Finally decided to go android after 5 years of iPhone use. Anyways, From what I can tell, like you said, the vivid and the velocity are more or less the same phone, just on different carriers. The phone is a solid handset, the battery life is average, its fast and even though I dont live in an area with LTE service, it still rocks on on HSPA+. Great phone, love mine, highly recommend it. As for not liking the Sense UI, if you arent concerned about your warranty, you can always root it and load a custom ROM onto it.
Thanks guys, good info.
Looking forward to seeing how kychan79 does with his, I should get mine in a few days I think I'm sold on the Velocity
I've noticied I can get extended batteries for the "raider" version, 3600mAh sounds boss, I have an extended battery for my HD2 so I'm used to the cover hump.
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So you would say the velocity is much better than the galaxy s ii?
Thank you
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I wouldnt say it is 'much' better, but it is better, in terms of speed, yes, but in terms of spec... no... the 1.5ghz is supposedly inferior to the 1.2, and 1.4 dual cores seen in the s2, and new galaxy tablets. However, i am fond of the speed and will be upgrading to an LTE device, and if we can crack the bootloader in these HTC's i will more than likely be upgrading to one
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davidcampbell said:
Thanks guys, good info.
Looking forward to seeing how kychan79 does with his, I should get mine in a few days I think I'm sold on the Velocity
I've noticied I can get extended batteries for the "raider" version, 3600mAh sounds boss, I have an extended battery for my HD2 so I'm used to the cover hump.
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does the weight go up much with the ext battery??? i am so used to my galaxy s2, (116grams) im scared of the extra weight, i used the Desire HD for a while back in the day.. hated the extra weight... thoughts???
if you hate weight, avoid the extra battery, I prefer my phone to be weighty
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SO this is addressed to people who own this handset, or a few handsets. DO you think I should go for the Velocity, or one of the others, if so why?
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I work for an online mobile store, and have used both the Samsung Galaxy S II and the Samsung Galaxy Nexus for an extended period of time. I also bought the HTC Velocity 4G yesterday.
The HTC Velocity 4G is currently the best device out in Australia, if speed is important to you! Not only does the device have 4G, though it also has dual band HSPA+, which makes it faster than most devices on the Next G network. I uploaded a video to YouTube yesterday, showing how much faster the HTC Velocity 4G runs on the Next G network, when compared to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
You can search YouTube for 'HTC Velocity 4G dual band HSPA+ test' if you want to watch the video, I am unable to post links, as I am a new user.
There are however three things that disappoint me about the device:
1. The device is a bit heavier than the Samsung Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Nexus
2. The device came with Android 2.3.7, rather than Android 4.0 (Should be released in a month)
3. HTC Sense
The Galaxy Nexus is a great device, it is light, thin and stylish. It also obviously has Ice Cream Sandwich, gets updated directly from Google (depending on where you get the device from), and doesn't have crap like HTC Sense on top of Android. The device however has a darker screen than most devices (not necessarily a bad thing), and the camera is pretty ****ty, though in all fairness, I was comparing it to the camera on the iPhone 4S, which makes all other mobile cameras look bad.
The Samsung Galaxy S II is a great device if you don't want a device as big as the Galaxy Nexus and don't want to spend as much. I also don't mind the software that Samsung puts on top of Android, it is a lot better than HTC Sense.
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does anyone know my chances of flashing roms/rooting the HTC Velocity easily?
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This is the reason why I logged onto XDA Developers today, I am wanting to ditch the HTC Sense / Telstra ROM for a good custom ROM, or if at all possible, a clean ICS ROM.
I would have went with the Galaxy Nexus (AOSP and no bloat HELLz YES,)if it wasn't the limited storage. 16GB is easy to fill and i need more if it was 32GB it would have been a done deal for me. Coming from the Galaxy S upgraded to the SII and within 2 days exchanged for the Raider.
SGS ans SGSII not much difference some but not much TouchWiz just plane sucks in my opinion lockscreen is horrible widgets limited. With my SGS i used ADW launcher just to avoid TouchWiz. Sense maybe a resource hog but it meets everything i was looking in a phone that the SII did not provide. with my first SGS i found myself hack and modding it to hell just so i can get it the way i want it to work and installing apps like widget locker etc. The Raider does not lag and i use this think like a mini computer everything is on with auto sync set to every hour. People say the battery is average i beg to differ i think its amazing battery for a 4.5" device. On very heavy days i get 12-14 hours on medium days it has last 2days and low even 3 days.
This is after i rooted and removed bloat, without bloat i would get max 12 hours on low usage. Still running stock, I like hacking/modding but to much trial and error and not enough time, with the Raider i do not need to mod it just to get basic functionality like SMS prompt or change tracks on lockscreen when phone is locked with pin/pass/pattern. It may seem small for others but that was a deal breaker for me. I need the phone locked but still have access to simple things like music and SMS from lockscreen and should not have to purchase apps like widget locker. Another big reason to jump ships was again weather in lockscreen, here up north weather can be very unpredictable so having that on the lockscreen is a great addition for me and it has saved me a few times already.
If i went SGSII first thing i would do is flash CM9 but then again its not really ready and has bugs.
I am getting this phone on Monday, so excited.
Very happy that it is getting ICS by end of Feb / Early March.
See here under the "Software Updates" Tab - http://bit.ly/x3nvyT
Excelllent!! A velocity thread!!
I just got mine yesterday! Love it. I came from an inspire with wcx Rom.. this is on par with how my inspire was... But I know this phone can be twice as good...
I have a few questions...
How Did you unlock boot loader? Did you select vi I'd from the list on htcdev.com?
If I unlock bootloader will I lose my Telstra warranty?
Can it be undone?
If I flash a new Rom can the phone be returned to stock easily enough?
if I flash a new Rom with wcx which is based on at.t... Will I lose my 1800 MHz LTE?
Sorry about all the novice questions...
One last thing.. when I had my inspire with sense 3.5 it seemed to have more features like the arrows in keyboard. And more items in the power menu... What's up with these disappearing?
I'm getting mine on monday
I also ordered an extended battery online (2600mAh) and the HDMI adapter just for funzies, so I'll let you folks know how well they work
If you want a keyboard with arrows, I use "hackers keyboard" off the market which I love, on my current android NAND htc HD2.
Thanks for the info, especially mark david, good stuff, and I didn't know about the dual-band HSDPA+ that certainly sounds lovely as I do not live in a 4G area (yet, they are upgrading jun/jul)
I would phone telstra to get the info direct from them RE: unlocking the bootloader. As for the rest, don't know yet sorry
Manage to Gain perm root and flash custom CWM recovery by following Step 2) of the superguide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836
Note that I need to extract the PH39IMG.zip and modify the "android-info.txt" with the below info and repackage it to get it work.
modelid: PH3912000cidnum: TELST001mainver: 2.27.841.6hbootpreupdate:12DelCache:1
I am not sure if I want to flash a custom ROM at this stage but if I do, I ll update you guys again
This thread is reallyt growing, they need an HTC Velocity Section on XDA
Im getting my Velocity Tomorrow
Will crack bootloader tomorrow as soon as i finish work!
Talk soon!
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This thread is reallyt growing, they need an HTC Velocity Section on XDA
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why? its the same hardware. same phone. hell, my rom is based from the velocity RUU.
Pirateghost said:
why? its the same hardware. same phone. hell, my rom is based from the velocity RUU.
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Just a thought. Shouldn't we be able to use the velocity kernel to get 1.5ghz? Since they're essentially the same device just one is undervolted and one is not?
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Just a thought. Shouldn't we be able to use the velocity kernel to get 1.5ghz? Since they're essentially the same device just one is undervolted and one is not?
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if you are running my rom, you are running the velocity kernel. its going to take more than just flashing that kernel though. unfortunately, i am not a kernel guru, or i would know what else it would take.
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I also ordered an extended battery online (2600mAh) and the HDMI adapter just for funzies, so I'll let you folks know how well they work
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Where did you order the accessories from? I cant find anything for this phone at the moment? Or did you search for "Vivid"
I'm currently on an Atrix and I'm thinking of switching to this phone since it has a faster cpu and the ics update is out. Should I go for it ? What do you guys think of the HTC vivid overall?
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I'm currently on an Atrix and I'm thinking of switching to this phone since it has a faster cpu and the ics update is out. Should I go for it ? What do you guys think of the HTC vivid overall?
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from the atrix to the vivid ....lol
we all love our vivids join the group youll love the new phone for sure
Vivid all the way
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Made the move from the Atrix 1 to Vivid, like day and night. Thanks to htc, vivid is the first us device to get ics.
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Considering that the Atrix will not be getting the ICS release any time soon....
http://www.androidauthority.com/no-ics-update-for-motorola-atrix-4g-50718/
I would definitely upgrade.
The Atrix will be getting an upgrade in the third quarter it is on Moto's site.
That's probably September.
I came from the Atrix as well and yes the Vivid is a much faster and smoother device and I love ICS.
The battery life on the Atrix was better, the Vivid is superior in all other aspects imo.
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Knowing moto they'll throw BLUR on it too.
The Vivid is a great device...I highly recommend it, as the others have posted. Not sure if the OP is still checking this thread but if so, go for it!
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Knowing moto they'll throw BLUR on it too.
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True, but all manufacturers will do that. The Vivid has Sense on it.
I switched from the Atrix to the Vivid. I still have them both. For me, its all about HTC Sense and apps included.
Atrix Exchange/corporate email is horrible. Most phones EXCEPT the HTC Sense phones have horrible Exchange email. Sense also has a great agenda and calendar widget. It even has Task support with widget.
I had to buy $50 worth of apps and widgets on the Atrix to give me the convenience and productivity of the Vivid and Sense.
Battery life, screen size and CPU are trivial to me compared to functionality for business tasks.
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I'm currently on an Atrix and I'm thinking of switching to this phone since it has a faster cpu and the ics update is out. Should I go for it ? What do you guys think of the HTC vivid overall?
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I made the switch from the ATRIX to the Vivid with an early upgrade, meaning unlike many people in here I paid $350. I took a gamble and so far could not be happier. I honestly hated my ATRIX when it was on stock, it was not until I got on CM7 that I actually enjoyed the phone. Being on the vivid just feels more solid and flows very nicely. So far the only dislike for the phone is the lack of S-OFF that makes flashing roms more complicated then it should be.
That beign said all around I love the VIVID. Alternatively there was a recent AT&T article that stated the ATRIX was to receive ICS "in the coming months"
While this is not the light at the end of a tunnel, the last time AT&T said that the Vivid became the first (or one of the first) non Galaxy phones to get ICS. So you may consider holding out and seeing what comes in the next few months.
Honestly i had a Galaxy S II and i (LOVED) it. but i couldnt keep wating for ICS. I was flashing so much not because i wanted to see new things. it was because i was bored. So i took a gamble. I figure HTC is better with updates than samsung(truth) So i got the Vivid On Thursday. Friday a software updated came to my phone it downloaded it and ran it. Next thing i know i have ICS. I couldnt believe it. So with that being said. Get the phone i love it!!!
Tegra 2 blows, 1.2ghz dual core snapdragon owns. Nuff said
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The only thing stopping me from getting this phone is I feel like it will get outdated pretty fast due to not being updated by HTC fast enough. It is already shipping with 4.1.2 even though 4.2.2 is already out.
I've never owned a HTC phone before so I'm wondering how long it will be until the 4.2 update. Also Key Lime Pie is coming out hopefully this summer, so then it will be even longer before they update to 5.0.
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The only thing stopping me from getting this phone is I feel like it will get outdated pretty fast due to not being updated by HTC fast enough. It is already shipping with 4.1.2 even though 4.2.2 is already out.
I've never owned a HTC phone before so I'm wondering how long it will be until the 4.2 update. Also Key Lime Pie is coming out hopefully this summer, so then it will be even longer before they update to 5.0.
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To put it bluntly, No. HTC are aweful at releasing updates. If the the 5.0 update for the One is anything like Jellybean for the One X it will be a joke.
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To put it bluntly, No. HTC are aweful at releasing updates. If the the 5.0 update for the One is anything like Jellybean for the One X it will be a joke.
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What are you talking about? JB release on the One X is fantastic, they actually implemented everything correctly which made it blazing fast... I'd like to hear an explanation
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What are you talking about? JB release on the One X is fantastic, they actually implemented everything correctly which made it blazing fast... I'd like to hear an explanation
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Exactly
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The only thing stopping me from getting this phone is I feel like it will get outdated pretty fast due to not being updated by HTC fast enough. It is already shipping with 4.1.2 even though 4.2.2 is already out.
I've never owned a HTC phone before so I'm wondering how long it will be until the 4.2 update. Also Key Lime Pie is coming out hopefully this summer, so then it will be even longer before they update to 5.0.
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Also depends on if you get a branded device, you have to wait for the carrier to test, fill it with bloatware etc before they release to their customers.
Unbranded devices usually get the updates etc pretty quick, and if you're rooted, you will likely get an update from devs before HTC even release it in general.
no they are not good my sensation xe dying on İCS very slow galaxy s2 had jelly bean for 2 mounths i guess sensation may never see jelly bean.
The updates for these types bring jack anyway. Pure android deffo worth the wait. HTC all your waiting us new sense variant. Nothing else you'll really notice. If you want to notice get the n5 when it's released
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What are you talking about? JB release on the One X is fantastic, they actually implemented everything correctly which made it blazing fast... I'd like to hear an explanation
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Once the update was finally rolled out JB was fantastic on the One X but it took HTC months and months to eventually get it rolled out to every One X because they did it based on CID.
I don't know man. I didn't see much difference
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They probably didn't put 4.2.2 on there because it didn't add much to android. In fact some people will tell you it made it slower and worse. All it did was put some widgets on the lock screen, new widgets and bragging rights to people that have it.
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4.2.2 is an update only made for aosp roms. Tell me what changes on 4.2.2 that will be implemented other than the version number? Gesture typing? Lockscreen widgets? Photo sphere? Already existed since sense 4. Im not sure about photosphere but i heard its 360 panorama which is also doable
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The only thing stopping me from getting this phone is I feel like it will get outdated pretty fast due to not being updated by HTC fast enough. It is already shipping with 4.1.2 even though 4.2.2 is already out.
I've never owned a HTC phone before so I'm wondering how long it will be until the 4.2 update. Also Key Lime Pie is coming out hopefully this summer, so then it will be even longer before they update to 5.0.
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HTC is pretty good with updates, it is always one of the first or even the first with updates to new android versions. People who say they are slow need to look at other OEM's and see how long it takes them...
And even if you can install a newer android version aosp rom, you will find that the older sense rom usually feels more like the upgrade compared to the newer aosp rom.
HTC take longer than samsung with updates because they do have a far smaller team. Samsung is a massive company so it can probably test & develop many updates for loads of devices. HTC took a bit longer in releasing the JB update but it was far less buggy than the SGS3 update.
I think we will see fast updates with the HTC one as this handset is definitely make or break for HTC
I have a branded 3 handset who have become very fast at pushing out updates
On my note 2 3 UK pushed out quicker than my unbranded handset they released 4th Jan but it was around early march when my unbranded finally got the update
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http://m.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months--92509/
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If the one gets 4.2.2 and destroys the WiFi like the n4 and n7 I'll be livid
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I think we will see fast updates with the HTC one as this handset is definitely make or break for HTC
I have a branded 3 handset who have become very fast at pushing out updates
On my note 2 3 UK pushed out quicker than my unbranded handset they released 4th Jan but it was around early march when my unbranded finally got the update
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It wont be the same with HTC. The One X update was delayed for a month or so whilst 3 branded it.
After installing 4.2 on my Nexus 7, I couldn't tell the difference really and I actually found those lock screen widgets annoying, but as already stated Sense 3 brought this to the table back with the Sensation (if you count the lock-screen shortcuts as widgets, otherwise Sense 4) so personally I don't think it's a big deal.
The problem HTC is going to have, is people that work in phone shops. They just want to sell a phone in my experience and I can just imagine them saying 'but the S4 is much better than the One as the One's software is already outdated' or something along those lines.
At the end of the day 4.2 will bring ABSOLUTELY NOTHING more than what 4.1 already gives. The only addition would be whatever HTC adds onto Sense. With devices such as the Sensation or Desire, HTC was awful at supporting them as the Desire was already out of support after 10 months. However, as also previously stated, with the One X HTC really ramped things up. Jellybean arrived just a few weeks after Samsung, and brought a much larger plethora of updates along with it.
Don't worry, HTC got you :good:
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If the one gets 4.2.2 and destroys the WiFi like the n4 and n7 I'll be livid
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This is HTC, not Apple.
The only one to blame with the delay of updates are the carriers. Just like what's happening between tmobile and the One S. JB for the One S was released last december for unbranded phones, and it's almost april but tmobile hasn't released JB yet. That doesn't mean that will also happen to the One, but imo, it's the carriers' fault why HTC is always known from being slow in updating their phones, even if they aren't really.
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The only one to blame with the delay of updates are the carriers. Just like what's happening between tmobile and the One S. JB for the One S was released last december for unbranded phones, and it's almost april but tmobile hasn't released JB yet. That doesn't mean that will also happen to the One, but imo, it's the carriers' fault why HTC is always known from being slow in updating their phones, even if they aren't really.
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Which is why you have to be CRAZY to get a branded phone........
I'm in the market for a new phone and the only thing keeping me on the fence with the Z1s is the lack of root and despite the bounty on it, progress looks to be slowing. Can anyone make an argument for this phone on stock over an equivalently spec'd phone that can be rooted?
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I'm in the market for a new phone and the only thing keeping me on the fence with the Z1s is the lack of root and despite the bounty on it, progress looks to be slowing. Can anyone make an argument for this phone on stock over an equivalently spec'd phone that can be rooted?
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Do you care about it being waterproof? Do you care about a horrible screen? (Yes, the screen is terrible). Sony's software is good enough to use without any rooting, but what other phones were you looking at?
Well, I'm moving up from a Galaxy Nexus who's screen has horrible burnin so I guess calling the Z1s screen terrible is a relative statement. I'm mainly looking to buy through tmobile. Their phone offering is kind of weak, atleast until they stock the S5 but I'm sort of weary of AMOLED screens after the galaxy nexus. The only other phone I was seriously considering was the 2013 HTC One which i know has root but obviously its a bit dated by comparison. Could you recommend any other competitor? Maybe even through AT&T?
Come on buddy. Let's positive thinking here. It's not able yet, beside think about quad core, 2 GB ram, 16 GB internal memory, plus 20 mp camera. You'll be proud of it.
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To each his own, but personally i wouldn't ever be interested in a phone where i can't unlock the bootloader. So a phone without root and without bootloader unlocking? No way for me. I love my Z1 though, but have the unlocked international version
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Well, I'm moving up from a Galaxy Nexus who's screen has horrible burnin so I guess calling the Z1s screen terrible is a relative statement. I'm mainly looking to buy through tmobile. Their phone offering is kind of weak, atleast until they stock the S5 but I'm sort of weary of AMOLED screens after the galaxy nexus. The only other phone I was seriously considering was the 2013 HTC One which i know has root but obviously its a bit dated by comparison. Could you recommend any other competitor? Maybe even through AT&T?
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If you really don't care about the screen, it's a good phone. I forgot to mention that the tmobile version of this phone is HUGE. It's bigger than the Z1. What about the Nexus 5? The HTC one 2013 is still a really great phone. They ported Sense 6 to it now with everything working.
The camera on this phone is about equal to the HTC one's camera. More MP though.
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Come on buddy. Let's positive thinking here. It's not able yet, beside think about quad core, 2 GB ram, 16 GB internal memory, plus 20 mp camera. You'll be proud of it.
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The phone has a huge list of Pros and while no root is the only con I can give it, it's a pretty big one. I have a broken galaxy nexus and disposable income burning a hol through my pocket. I'm going to have a new phone by the end of the day. I'm just trying to weigh which hurts less either a bit of an outdated phone with root or the Z1s without root.
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The phone has a huge list of Pros and while no root is the only con I can give it, it's a pretty big one. I have a broken galaxy nexus and disposable income burning a hol through my pocket. I'm going to have a new phone by the end of the day. I'm just trying to weigh which hurts less either a bit of an outdated phone with root or the Z1s without root.
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Root will eventually come in August when jcase said he would release it. Another question is do you care about slow updates? The Z1 just got KK, but the tmobile version will likely have to wait a few more months. HTC seems to be doing well updating their phones. I would get the HTC One if I were you. Maybe even the new HTC one that's being release tomorrow.
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Root will eventually come in August when jcase said he would release it. Another question is do you care about slow updates? The Z1 just got KK, but the tmobile version will likely have to wait a few more months. HTC seems to be doing well updating their phones. I would get the HTC One if I were you. Maybe even the new HTC one that's being release tomorrow.
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The slow updates was a bit of a bummer but I could live with it. I asked whether Tmobile would offer the HTC one tomorrow but the rep sounded doubtful. I could simply go with the HTC One and then jump to the 2014 model after a few months when tmobile has them stocked. The other reason I'm considering the HTC one is for it's build quality. I'd be taking a bit of a hit on horsepower though but still an absolute upgrade from the galaxy nexus.
You may have convinced me to take the HTC one actually lol.
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The slow updates was a bit of a bummer but I could live with it. I asked whether Tmobile would offer the HTC one tomorrow but the rep sounded doubtful. I could simply go with the HTC One and then jump to the 2014 model after a few months when tmobile has them stocked. The other reason I'm considering the HTC one is for it's build quality. I'd be taking a bit of a hit on horsepower though but still an absolute upgrade from the galaxy nexus.
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Yeah no one knows about that. There are some rumors that Verizon will have it for 2 weeks before everyone else, but some rumors say all carriers get it tomorrow. The 2013 one is still pretty fast though.
@aooga
The htc one camera is definitively one of the worst camera ever seen in the last years
Check gsmarena comparisons if you don't trust me
And this only would made me skip this phone
Anyway, I would skip the S5 due to its crappy ui
And the z1s for his closeness
Couldn't you buy an unlocked phone maybe? I know US mentality is quite different.. but cmon is there really this saving?
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@aooga
The htc one camera is definitively one of the worst camera ever seen in the last years
Check gsmarena comparisons if you don't trust me
And this only would made me skip this phone
Anyway, I would skip the S5 due to its crappy ui
And the z1s for his closeness
Couldn't you buy an unlocked phone maybe? I know US mentality is quite different.. but cmon is there really this saving?
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Hmm. I didn't see that when I had it. The camera was really good both in low light and outside. The Z1 camera takes a lot of fiddling to get shots, but when you get it right, they're pretty good.
Oooohhh, the camera..... yea that just bummed me out of the HTC One. Ugh. I guess it's back to square one. I gave the nexus 5 a thought and the only real reason I dismissed it was because my brother has it.
donciclon said:
Oooohhh, the camera..... yea that just bummed me out of the HTC One. Ugh. I guess it's back to square one. I gave the nexus 5 a thought and the only real reason I dismissed it was because my brother has it.
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What's so bad about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50736218&postcount=3317
Just to be clear: you can root your device with locked bootloader. You just can't install custom roms. It's just a bit of work to get a rooted Kitkat.
I love the device. Sonys firmware is really good I didn't have any reason to use custom roms yet. It's closer to pure Android than the other 3 brands.
The camera is good (with a bit practice). I've bought the device mainly because of the huge battery
Sent from Xperia Z1
aooga said:
What's so bad about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50736218&postcount=3317
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The problem is exactly there. When I open photos load they are good. Then I say: "oh, let's take a look at those people up there" or "let's check that bird on the seaside "
And I zoom in.. and you realize photos suck (a ****ty galaxy ace can even beat the one! holy jesus..)
anyway, I wouldn't boycott the ****ing close contract system if I were you... but if you aren't so prudish, well, z1s would be a good deal
Otherwise, go unlocked nexus 5/xperia z/xperia z1
xXFlippyXx said:
Just to be clear: you can root your device with locked bootloader. You just can't install custom roms. It's just a bit of work to get a rooted Kitkat.
I love the device. Sonys firmware is really good I didn't have any reason to use custom roms yet. It's closer to pure Android than the other 3 brands.
The camera is good (with a bit practice). I've bought the device mainly because of the huge battery
Sent from Xperia Z1
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No you can't on the Z1s. That's why there's a $600+ bounty.
Why not just go for Z1?? it is totally rootable
Seriously, if u look for the T-mobile Z1s just becoz of the "nice deal"
Go to ebay instead bro
KWOKSFUNG said:
Why not just go for Z1?? it is totally rootable
Seriously, if u look for the T-mobile Z1s just becoz of the "nice deal"
Go to ebay instead bro
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If you live in the US, buying phones from the carrier is actual beneficial. Tmobile has something called JUMP that lets you get a phone every 6 months if you buy the phone from them. And you pay nothing up front.
aooga said:
If you live in the US, buying phones from the carrier is actual beneficial. Tmobile has something called JUMP that lets you get a phone every 6 months if you buy the phone from them. And you pay nothing up front.
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Up to u then
but did anyone tell u that u cannot write the external SD card with a 3rd party app on non-rooted stock 4.4??
I have been a die hard fan of HTC phones since the droid incredible. Figure its time to try something new. My M7 tried to pop the screen out as I guess the battery bulged. I am wondering if its a good phone and if touchwiz worked out its lag issues I seen in the past. Need a camera that works good as my M7 had that purple haze issue. More so I need to know if foxfi still works on this phone as I have seen many phones stop working. If not will have to look in to root and hope I get a phone not on the latest upgrade so I can root with that one touch root. I need tethering as where I live we have no internet access.
So its this phone or the Google nexus 6 for Verizon and planning to pick up one tomorrow. So any insight is welcomed.
Sent from my Nexus 9 using XDA Free mobile app
Dark Jedi said:
I have been a die hard fan of HTC phones since the droid incredible. Figure its time to try something new. My M7 tried to pop the screen out as I guess the battery bulged. I am wondering if its a good phone and if touchwiz worked out its lag issues I seen in the past. Need a camera that works good as my M7 had that purple haze issue. More so I need to know if foxfi still works on this phone as I have seen many phones stop working. If not will have to look in to root and hope I get a phone not on the latest upgrade so I can root with that one touch root. I need tethering as where I live we have no internet access.
So its this phone or the Google nexus 6 for Verizon and planning to pick up one tomorrow. So any insight is welcomed.
Sent from my Nexus 9 using XDA Free mobile app
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The galaxy s6 edge has the best camera and the best display. Touch whiz is bad for some users but not for me. Try buying the 128gb version, as it is probably the only one not to be updated to the latest base band
Just sent you an e-mail
If you need to root/modify then go for the nexus. If you want a stock android Samsung experience with features like Samsung pay, great camera, light weight then get the edge.