Hey everyone. I am about to start installing a Nexus 7 in my 2003 Ford Mustang.
Goals:
Easy removal of unit.
-Temperature is near zero at some points in winter and over 100 in summer.
-Use of hard case to hold unit in place, possibly mounted by a small variation in the shape of my stock stereo surround and the use of strong magnets. If that does not work, permanently mounting hard case to stereo bezel
-Use of double din space behind the mounted nexus for the EQ and my boost controller to go.
-Fabrication of pogo pin system for easy connection/disconnection, allowing for charging and usb hub support while nexus is in its "cradle". Adapter for micro usb > pogo, to help reduce wear on the micro usb port of the nexus.
Stock look
-if I don't like the look then I will try and fabricate something to surround the nexus while it is mounted.
-modifying the stereo bezel is not an issue, they are cheap to replace
- Clean wiring and functional placement of components
Better than stock function and sound
-USB sound card
-manual volume control (making a volume knob that controls EQ that is accessible)
- Radio (I don't use it but its a selling feature if I have to sell the car)
-easy access to peripherals in case something needs to be adjusted or replaced
-no alternator whine or sub standard sound just because it is a tablet, in fact it must be better than what I have now
-GPS!!!
-WARDRIVING!! (I do not have a smart phone, so internet will come from WIFI for now)
Less than $500 (cost of a high end stereo with far less capability, also less than a decent carputer setup)
Future plans
- possible megasquirt engine management that is tied into the device so that I do not have to lug my laptop around when I tune my car (it sucks and is dangerous to try and use windows while driving fast), plug into 4 different USB devices, and deal with crappy UI's
- at the very least, integration of all of the data my tuning components are giving without using a laptop. OBD II may or may not solve this.
Components I have purchased so far:
-Used - Like new Nexus 7 (2012) - $129.99
Amazon
-Behringer UCA202 USB Audio Interface - $29.99
-DROK 12A/100W 4.5-30V to 0.8-30V DC Buck Volt Converter Step Down 12V Car Power Supply Voltage Regulator - $15.89
-Sound Storm Laboratories S4EQ 4-Band Graphic Equalizer with Subwoofer Crossover, VOLUME CONTROL - $30.98
-Metra 95-5026 Double DIN Installation Kit (not sure if I need it yet) - $10.04
- ( 3 ) Boss Audio Systems Car Ground Loop Isolator (one for each output) - $23.64
-AmazonBasics USB 2.0 A-Male to A-Female Extension Cable (9.8 Feet/3.0 Meters) - $5.99
- Right Angle OTG Cable Adapter for all Micro USB - $5.50
-Fosmon Crystal Hard Case for Google Nexus 7 - $2.97
-(2) Harwin 4P Spring Probe Connector (pogo pin connector) - $6.48
-(2) Molex Male Micro USB B (specs say male version but I bet I get female) - $1.74
- (2) Hirose Male USB connector with cradle (in case above doesn't work) - $3.54
Still need:
USB Radio Receiver
Knob for volume control relocation
MISC (bondo or epoxy, wire, etc)
Apps, cracks, mods to make it all work
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While there are a few well documented car installs, I think there is always room for another. The main thing that I hope to bring to the table is (hopefully) creating a reproducible way to make a quick disconnect connector from the pogo. I checked on patents, and there is one already, so even if I felt like it was worth it, I probably couldn't mass produce them. So now the technique will be in the public domain (hopefully). The adapter should work for any micro usb device. It could be adapted for different connectors, possibly even using the Nexus 10 connector to add audio to the dock. You could also use 2 of the 4 pogo connectors, 1 for audio and 1 for usb. Anyway.
I am waiting for stuff to arrive. I will update once it does.
1/21/14
Deliveries!
Bezel
Bezel pics. Just got the hard case in today. Nexus 7 tomorrow. School sucks this semester so this may go slow
im thinking of doing a similar one like yours for a while. I want to connect 2 cameras to the Nexus7, one for reverse, one for front( crash cam, would like it to constantly recording once the car is running) have you seen anyone have done it?
For the audio, im not very fussy. Just trying to mount the N7 with stock CD player on( it has an AUX in socket)
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eason86 said:
im thinking of doing a similar one like yours for a while. I want to connect 2 cameras to the Nexus7, one for reverse, one for front( crash cam, would like it to constantly recording once the car is running) have you seen anyone have done it?
For the audio, im not very fussy. Just trying to mount the N7 with stock CD player on( it has an AUX in socket)
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I was looking at getting a couple of bluetooth HD webcams for front and rear like you are talking about. You could run a USB cable to both, or if you had a USB video card, a composite cable, but it seems easier to wire power at each location and use bluetooth. I would use the cameras for recording street racing, or if I ever take it to the track.
Just got the plastic for the case that will be behind the stereo. I bought Lexan at Lowes, and then realized that radioshack has the project boxes that they sell. The largest looks close to double din in width and height. It could be chopped up and then reformed using the glue that I bought for the lexan.
I also picked up the circuit boards from radioshack. a block of 4 of the pre-printed circuits is the same width as a usb end, which is what I was shooting for. The only issue is reducing wear on the contacts. I have a couple of ideas, including getting a cheap flash card and using that to make the circuit. 4 contacts on a flash card are the same width as a usb end as well (the plastic). The contacts for the flash card are made for wear, so it may be a better option.
Lexan was $3.98 a sheet I think, I bought 2. It is enough to make a box from. Plastic glue was ~$5.98 a tube x2. so ~$12.
Circuit was like $3.00, some solder and screws for mounting, total was ~$8. I am going to make the box tonight and glue it up.
NEXUS CAME TODAY! Only thing left is the USB/POGO parts.
Update
Been working on the bezel and the connectors the past few days in between homework. I finished the connector and has been epoxied into the bezel. Starting to come together. I took a lot of time working on the alignment of the connector as it slips into the bezel. The nexus does not move up and down really, but I still tried to make the connector hole as tight as possible so that I do not end up shorting the pins on the connector. I also epoxied the body and contacts of the usb adapter, which should also help the pins find their contact. I will take a pic of it once I get it all cleaned up.
So if anyone plans to do this, I went through 4 cables before I finally got it right. I would get close to the end, and a wire or pin would break from stress on the usb connector, or I accidentally cut into the cables and they are very small and hard to reconnect. What ended up working best was to get an $8 flat cable connector from Fred Meyer. It was in a little bin next to the register, but the flat cable and the cheap rubber/plastic that is used to form the connector made it very easy to get into it, short pin 4 and 5, and then put everything back together without ruining anything. The better quality connectors have a rubber that is hard to cut into, and as you are dissecting the connector, you run the risk of nicking the hidden wires. If you could find a cheap OTG cable, it would make everything much easier. Because I opened the connector, when I put it back together and fused the two rubber pieces with my soldering iron, the metal connector moved up and down inside of the rubber casing. Eventually it would have failed.
A few more hints: Don't use a soldering iron over 15W. I roasted everything when I accidentally set my iron to 30W. 15w is still hot, but not too much. 2nd: get one of the soldering stations with the clips and magnifying glasses from radioshack. OMG I don't know how I lived without this thing. SOOOOO much easier to solder with things held in place.
Btw, the first cable I cut into was an OTG cable, and there continuity with resistance between the black and green wire? 25 ohms. I was measuring the wires to see how my solder job was. I ended up digging into the cable, and doing so accidentally cut the black wire, so I had to scrap it.
Update
Painted the bezel in the car's factor color ($8 at O'Reilly for paint plus $20 for prep). Looks good. I realized that the magnets scrape the paint of the bezel as they attach, so I bought some black vinyl ($1.11 at walmart). Still deciding which side to attach it to.
I also got a soft on relay for powering the USB hub (maybe amp too), time is adjustable for power on. I assume the electronics won't like being cycled through ignition ($30). Still deciding if I want all of the stereo components to come on at the same time or just the amp and/or nexus.
I finished and mounted all of the components into the box, including the boost controller. Everything fit perfectly without modification. I removed my old stereo today to ship back to amazon and get a refund. If I finish my homework tonight at a reasonable time, I might have enought time to work on the wiring harness and have it in tomorrow to test without the soft on relay. Now that there is no stereo in the I bet I will get motivated to finish.
I will post pictures once it is installed and maybe of the wiring of the components.
can you please make a video.
How are you planning on turning the tablet on automatically?
I'm installing one in my car two, but I don't want to have to turn it on manually, and I plan on charging it 24/7. So I can't check when the power is connected (ie car started) because it will always have a power input.
I don't want to thread jack, but here's my removable nexus 7 install in my acura TSX. Works like a champ, turns on/off with the car, steering controls are all working...
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-electronics/94338-i-didnt-know-what-do-my-nexus-7-a.html
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Well the bundled stock headphones include a right angle connector.
But I want to use my iPhone headphones (aftermarket, not the bundled ones)
There's plenty of right angle connectors that are 3 conductor/2 band but you lose the mic/play button with that.
Has anyone found a right angle adaptor with 4 condutor/3 bands?
Without a right angle adapter I fear too much movement will damage the port or the connector on the headphones (and it doesnt really feel right in the pocket)
Found this one, It may be cheaper to build your own.
I also found some that include are TRRS at the phone (male) end, TRS at the female end and include a mic like this one. With this adapter you can use any headphones and still make calls.
The first like seems to be what I need, it's a bit pricier then what I wanted but it's the right description of what I want. If there was one for approx $10 inc shipping it'd be perfect.
My headphones are the apple in ear headphones so they already include a mic (and more importantly a button to control audio)
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Found this one, It may be cheaper to build your own.
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That's perfect, but the pricing is loonacy !
It came to nearly $20 after (even the cheapest) shipping. As the headphone jack was the last piece from keeping me from completely retiring my old iphone (i only used it for music) I figured it while it was expensive it was redicilously expensive.
Once it arrives i'll do a mini review of it, should be here by the middle of the week.
You could probably get the right angle plug and make one, but then you have to actually take the time to make the darn thing. you would also need the straight plug and wire and solder and the skill, Nah - I would probably order one just like you did.
Mini-review
So I recieved my connector today.
It doesnt match the picture exactly on the earlier link, but that's a good thing.
The headphone port body seems to be made of electrical shrinkwrap. This good as it means there's nothing on it that can possibly scratch your phone. The issue is that the overall look makes it look like someone hand assembeled it and is not factory made.
It does exactly what it's supposed to do, passes all signals without any perceptable loss in quality.
Pros:
TRRS on both ends (passes all 4 wires)
No metal on body so cant scratch anything
No perceptable change in audio quality
Cons:
Electrical shrinkwrap doesnt scream quality
Price, very expensive for what it is and the build quality
Other:
Doesnt match picture
Cable is 6 inches
Cable is very thick! compare the headphone cable and the extension's cable.
Final Thoughts:
If it were around $8-15 with shipping it'd be a pretty good buy even for it's quality. At $20 it's a bit much for something so small even if it had really good build quality/materials.
But as I mentioned earlier this is the last piece I needed to make my streak fully replace my old iphone. Being able to carry 1 less device makes the high cost not so high.
Issues left to tackle related to streak:
I'm currently using doubletwist to sync with my itunes library and as my music player, currently you can only do single press on the headphone button to play/stop music. It cant do double press to skip forward a track or triple press to go back a track.
Edit: It turns out doubletwist does support double press to skip a track, but not triple press to return to a track. It's a bit finicky though, as it seems to be a hack on detecting that you pressed play/stop quickly and not as a single smooth command.
Also unfortunately you cant use the vol up/vol down button on the headphones (but this isnt the fault of the streak, it's intentional vendor lock-in)
As I'm currently using the apple in-ear headphones I dont expect to change them any time soon, not that other non iphone headphones support volume buttons on the mic block anyway.
The volume buttons on the streak are small and with the right angle connector connected and the port so close to the vol buttons it might be a bit difficult to change the volume without removing it from your pocket. As I have no case for my streak but did for my iphone I dont have the case to guide me to the buttons as easily (You can feel the vol buttons even though the outside of jeans with a case) But I have to walk around a bit and try this part first. The vol buttons work fine for me, I have the phone upright in pocket with screen facing outwards. Finding the buttons isnt an issue at all.
The fact the streak has a metal body means I dont need a case to protect the back from scratches (the front is a different story).
Great review, thanks for taking the time to follow up.
Edited review, turns out using the vol buttons is fine even with the connector.
Doubletwist also includes double tap for skip track so it's pretty much everything I need
Hi Guys,
Need your help re an idea I have for mounting an N7 in my Mitsubishi Lancer.
I intend to keep my stock Radio/CD player for well playing radio and CDs and use the AUX input for the N7 audio.
I was thinking of putting the tablet in a case and have it sit in the display cavity, with the case hinged to the top edge of the cavity. This would allow me to push the top of the tablet backwards which would elevate the bottom part of the tablet, thus revealing the display (for when I want to use the radio). Hopefully the schematic explains it.
Questions:
1- Do you think this mounting idea is a good idea or even feasible. Has anyone come across a small cylindrical hinge that could work in this case?
2- Can I use Tasker to lock / unlock screen based on the orientation angle of the N7 i.e. have Tasker lock screen when I’m in Stock position and unlock when I move it into N7 position
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Had a look at Tasker and it only allows defining orientation based tasks for specific positions (i.e. lying flat or on the side) but not to based on a user set angle. Can this be done?
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That's a nice idea. You'll need an OTG while charging rom. I forgot who made that long ago.
Edit: I realized you want to keep your stock radio. I'll leave my previous post below for reference. Apologies.
Edit: To add to your topic, I would think a mount based on pressure on the sides would be more feasible than a cylindrical hinge, as driving has its forces. Try cutting two pieces of insulation foam on the left and right for prototype purposes to test your placement first (plug in cables) and below that, see if the nexus dock fits or you may be able to find a pogo pin (it has audio out!) assembly to charge it. Tasker + rotation locker can do landscape at boot
- Buy a dash install double din kit with wire harness. usually $30-40, may require some diy work but will fit flush when done. (Pins on the harness usually have the standard 12v, + speaker / amp attachments)
- Charging uses a car adapter hidden and connected directly
- For otg use: auto droid, its relatively recent. Based on slimkat for battery savings (aosp+ lots of features).
It gives otg force charging, power management, otg host mode, etc and based on 4.4.4
- Next, buy a USB hub and connect webcams, and whatever usb peripherals (think of the possibilities), obd bluetooth adapter for car stats.
- USB DAC (sound card), connect this directly to our amp and usb hub
- Alternatively tap the 3.5 aux, but for lessor sound quality and only 2 channels with no bass
Total costs: 80~ bucks excluding DAC and amp. Not bad
See my photo for mount sample. Installed pic coming soon
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1xinfusion said:
Edit: I realized you want to keep your stock radio. I'll leave my previous post below for reference. Apologies.
Edit: To add to your topic, I would think a mount based on pressure on the sides would be more feasible than a cylindrical hinge, as driving has its forces. Try cutting two pieces of insulation foam on the left and right for prototype purposes to test your placement first (plug in cables) and below that, see if the nexus dock fits or you may be able to find a pogo pin (it has audio out!) assembly to charge it. Tasker + rotation locker can do landscape at boot
- Buy a dash install double din kit with wire harness. usually $30-40, may require some diy work but will fit flush when done. (Pins on the harness usually have the standard 12v, + speaker / amp attachments)
- Charging uses a car adapter hidden and connected directly
- For otg use: auto droid, its relatively recent. Based on slimkat for battery savings (aosp+ lots of features).
It gives otg force charging, power management, otg host mode, etc and based on 4.4.4
- Next, buy a USB hub and connect webcams, and whatever usb peripherals (think of the possibilities), obd bluetooth adapter for car stats.
- USB DAC (sound card), connect this directly to our amp and usb hub
- Alternatively tap the 3.5 aux, but for lessor sound quality and only 2 channels with no bass
Total costs: 80~ bucks excluding DAC and amp. Not bad
See my photo for mount sample. Installed pic coming soon
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you mentioned using a webcam - which webcam did you exactly use with autodroid or did you use a video grabber like the stk1160 in your install? I am currently having alot of trouble getting my camera to work
So I've replaced my stock Navigation system in my '09 Mazda 6 with a 2nd gen Nexus 7.
I bought a used one off ebay because it didn't matter to me if the case/cover was banged up or not as I was planning on building it into the dash. The Nexus fits pretty well in the 2-din opening of the aftermarket panel I got [American International brand kit# MAZK860]. I used a Minisuit-X TPU case to help hold the tablet in place. The case creates a raised frame around the screen and makes it easier to locate the screen from the back of the 2-din panel. Notches needed to be cut in the sub-frame piece of the din kit for the USB connector and headphone jack, but other than that very little modifications were needed. I used a piece of PVC perforated sheet to hold the tablet into the din plate. The perforations in the sheet made it easy to cut out notches and holes with side cutters and achieve the shape I wanted without having to make a mess using a dremel.
For audio, I had purchased a Syba SD-CM-UAUD DAC but had trouble getting it to work right so I am now just using a 3.5mm 4-pin splitter to 3.5mm headphone/mic jacks. I have a JK MIC-J 044 lapel clip microphone stashed behind a small vent in the upper console panel and wired a headphone jack into the harness [Metra 70-7903]. I know some people think the DAC is far superior but I found the headphone jack audio output good enough for me and running it through the stock Bose amplifier in my car sounds excellent.
I'm also using a Joycon EXR to capture steering wheel controls and an EasyCap Dc60 to capture video from my KS1 dual channel dash camera. The camera is set to show the rear view for the video out so I can use it as a back-up camera on the tablet.
My first time installing the tablet worked ok. I had a few problems including the steering controls not working (except Volume down) and the battery wouldn't stay charged enough, forcing me to remove the tablet and charge it every other week. The Easycam also wouldn't work and flash drives wouldn't load right. The Joycon, Easycap, and flash drive issues were due to the $2 4-port hub I got free with something. I tried an Amazon Essentials hub too and it had an intermittent short. A 4-port Insignia hub from Bestbuy did the trick and everything is working now.
I did rebuild the harness last weekend because I wanted to get the Li-Ion battery out of the hot dash. Even though this setup was working ok, when it's 90-plug degrees outside, the tablet will shut itself off and boot-loop until it cools down. I decided to replace the battery with a 12V to 4.2V DC Step-Down regulator. I got an extra battery from ebay and remove the tiny controller board. I had read where other people just replaced the battery with a power supply and were getting odd messages from the tablet about how it was at 0 volts and wouldn't sleep or update properly. So, I used the battery control board and it reports the battery level to the tablet (usually around 90~95%).
The only issue I am having with the power is that when I start the engine, either the power is dropping too much or the car kills power to the radio harness and then I have to wait for the tablet to restart.
To fix this, I plan on using a capacitor to try and keep the tablet powered while the car is starting.
I do need some help. Though I have removed the Li-Ion battery, the overheated tablet will still shut down and boot-loop until it cools down. Is there a way to program it to ignore the temp. sensor? If not, does anyone know where this particular sensor is so I can replace it with a fixed resistor and make it think it's always room temp?
Questions, comments, and ideas welcome!
~Mike
i am sorry i cant be any help but what launcher and rom/ kernel do you use?
amazing. navigation works well ?
ccb101 said:
i am sorry i cant be any help but what launcher and rom/ kernel do you use?
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I'm using Timur's USB Rom for 4.4.4.
eldar4uk said:
amazing. navigation works well ?
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I haven't been on any trips yet, but I did test it on the ride home from work and it works well; picks up the GPS signal well. I just used Google Maps navigation for it and I input the directions using "OK Google".
~Mike
I've spent hours reading the various threads since getting my HU last Novemeber. Absolutely love it, especially with the Malaysk roms on, does everything I could want it to, except make a bloody phone call. If the other end can hear me it's very faint at best.
Mine was supplied by Pumpkin, they have tried to help with a microphone app and various settings, none made the slightest difference.
There were a few posts about adding an external mic by finding the BT card after dissasembly and wiring to the mic+ and Sgnd legs on the card. Last night I eventually bit the bullet and took mine completely to piecese. Unfortunately I couldn't find a BT card, maybe it's built in, or on chip or...... But I gave up looking for it. What I did find on the front panel was the original pathetic little mic, way back from the tiny hole. You can't drill it bigger as it knocks the mic out of place.
My fix, made simpler now I know what I'm doing (it took me a lot longer and many more steps.
Take off main case
Pull tape off DVD drive to extend ribbon cable
Flip up black tab at the back of the ribbon cable connection on the screen and slide out ribbon and put screen aside
Remove two small screws from the side of the faceplate and using a flat blade screwdriver release the faceplate
Flip up tabs on both ribbon connectors and remove ribbons, I found it easier doing the short one first
unscrew all circuit boards screws in the faceplate circuit (7) and remove faceplate
Drill a hole in the rear of the unit above the ISO connector to feed a cable through
Carefully desolder the horrible little mic from the right hand side of the circuit (labelled mic1) and clean the holes
Take a mini jack extension lead and cut off the male end - either a mono one or if stereo you want the wires for the top part and the middle part of the connector stripped and feed through the hole, I also put a very small tie wrap inside with the tag outside so I could hold the wire tight and not strain the solder - tightened after assembly
The positive (top part) goes on the inside connection. I soldered this to the top of the board
The ground goes to the other terminal - these are so close together that I soldered this on the underside to ensure no contact
Reassemble in reverse of above (making sure all faceplate buttons are in place (yes I forgot the eject and screen buttons)
Then connect any unpowered condenser Mic and all of a sudden fantastic vocie clarity, quite a phenomenal difference.
I used this mic from Amazon, https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01F84YMZQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Happy for this to get merged into another thread, but I couldn't find one specifically about the mic problem with the single din unit.
Was there no factory fitted connection for an external mic? Mine does have one. Then it would be simple to just disconnect the internal mic right?
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Was there no factory fitted connection for an external mic? Mine does have one. Then it would be simple to just disconnect the internal mic right?
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No, no external mic connection on the single din units. Confirmed by Pumpkin. Bit of a silly oversight
If you've owned your Nexus for a while, you'll start to notice that your headphone jack may become spotty, finicky, or no longer work. This is caused by the lack of a proper connector on the motherboard for the headphone jack module. The pins of the headphone jack end up rubbing up against the PCB pads and wearing it away, resulting in a faulty connection. (See attachments for reference).
Symptoms of a worn connection:
- No sound through headphones
- Wiggling the headphone connector causes something to happen
- Google assistant or search activating randomly
- Songs randomly skipping or stopping when using aux or headphones
You can make a semi-permanent repair by tinning the connection pads with solder, which both improves the connection and repairs any wear. This may need to be repeated in the future as solder is a soft material. (not any time soon though, maybe a few months).
Tools:
- Soldering Iron
- Solder with rosin core (or solder + flux)
- About an hour
Step 1 - Follow any tear down guide to remove the main motherboard from the phone.
I prefer the iFixit guide which can be found here:
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
You don't need to remove the battery, just the back cover, the protective shield, and unplug a few connectors.
Step 2 - Tin the connectors.
See attachments for the headphone connector, and reference images. (The images are taken with the motherboard flipped over)
If you've never touched a soldering iron before, make sure it's hot, and make sure to add a little flux to your target area. Flux removes oxidation, and makes the solder flow much much easier than without. Avoid hitting anything other than the soldering pads.
You don't need a lot, in fact, if you add too much, try to use the soldering iron tip to pull away the extra solder from the pads. I've attached a photo of a finished repair.
Step 3 - Reassembly.
Just put it back together the way you took it apart.