Need help with the different versions of Moto x - Moto X Q&A

Hello all,
I am about to take the plug in the Moto X world and have a couple questions. I live in the Great White North (i.e. Canada) so the only available version I can easily get my hands on is the Rogers version. My question is will I be able to use it on Rogers if I flash the Developer edition ROM. Will the developer edition ROM even work on a Rogers Moto X?
Thanks and much appreciated!

Yes, it will work fine as long as you have unlocked the bootloader. You will lose band 7 LTE (2600 Mhz) if you use the full developer edition firmware however you can flash the developer edition firmware and then flash just the modem from the Brazil 4.4 release and it will be restored. This is what I have been running for a while now on two Rogers XT1058s and it is working extremely well. Mine are sim unlocked and running on Koodo.

Thanks for the info! Sorry to ask such a noob question but where can I download the Dev edition firmware? I can't seem to find it. Also can you let me know where I can get the Brazil modem?
Much appreciated!!
Steve-x said:
Yes, it will work fine as long as you have unlocked the bootloader. You will lose band 7 LTE (2600 Mhz) if you use the full developer edition firmware however you can flash the developer edition firmware and then flash just the modem from the Brazil 4.4 release and it will be restored. This is what I have been running for a while now on two Rogers XT1058s and it is working extremely well. Mine are sim unlocked and running on Koodo.
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Just curious, why would you need the dev edition ROM on the Rogers X? It has an unlockable bootloader, is extremely easy to root, and you can remove any extra apps Rogers puts on it? What's the advantage to using the dev edition ROM?
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g8who said:
Thanks for the info! Sorry to ask such a noob question but where can I download the Dev edition firmware? I can't seem to find it. Also can you let me know where I can get the Brazil modem?
Much appreciated!!
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Here's the Dev edition firmware i.e. T-Mobile (Developer Edition GSM) - XT1053:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538394
Brazil modem can be found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630107

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GSM Developer Edition... Which Roms Etc ?

I am sorry if this question was previously asked/answered as I did review the forums, but couldn't find an answer.
This is my first experience with a Moto X (GSM) Developer Edition, specifically running on ATT.
I am a bit confused by which ROMS, Kernels, etc are ok to use on my device.
I see many ROMS which say VZW, ATT, TMobile but I am not sure which is ok to use.
Should I be looking for only things which have been specifically labeled ATT Dev Edition or will anything for ATT work ?
Sorry for the newbie question, but I haven't dealt with a device with so many flavors which didnt have a dedicated forum.
Thanks!!
On the GSM developer edition you'd want to stick with the tmobile/retail flash images if you're leaving the bootloader locked. If you unlock the bootloader then you can load nearly any image but I'd stick with ones from the XT1053 and XT1058 only. (XT1058 being the model AT&T uses, so you can try AT&T flash images if you like)
Well stay away from the Verizon stuff and you should be fine.
That's why a Verizon dev edition exists.
Most of att stuff work on T-Mobile
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[Rogers] KitKat - wait or flash?

What are those of you with a Rogers Moto X doing given they still haven't released KitKat?
I know their forum has a post indicating it's "coming soon", but attempts to get more information in the Moto X section just result in nonsense responses from someone who doesn't even own a Moto X.
My concern with flashing the developer edition ROM is the loss of warranty and lack of Band 7 LTE support. However, I'd be tempted if the latter is not an issue.
I'm not with Rogers but I am using Rogers Moto X's. I have unlocked the bootloaders on all of my phones and flashed the 4.4 dev edition/retail/tmobile firmware and then flashed the kitkat 4.4 Brazil modem file(this will give you the newest modem file and enable band 7 LTE). Performance is excellent, if you don't mind the warranty issue then I'd highly recommend it.
Steve-x said:
I'm not with Rogers but I am using Rogers Moto X's. I have unlocked the bootloaders on all of my phones and flashed the 4.4 dev edition/retail/tmobile firmware and then flashed the kitkat 4.4 Brazil modem file(this will give you the newest modem file and enable band 7 LTE). Performance is excellent, if you don't mind the warranty issue then I'd highly recommend it.
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Hmm, interesting. Wouldn't flashing the Brazil modem affect future DE OTA updates?
[edit] Ugh, it seems that the Brazilian model doesn't support LTE Band 1 (which Rogers uses):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49460615&postcount=15
thedosbox said:
Hmm, interesting. Wouldn't flashing the Brazil modem affect future DE OTA updates?
[edit] Ugh, it seems that the Brazilian model doesn't support LTE Band 1 (which Rogers uses):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49460615&postcount=15
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Rogers uses LTE bands 4 and 7 which will work prefect with the Brazil modem.
Looks like the wait will soon be over:
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-download-new-gallery-migrate-and.html
KitKat Comes to Moto X in Canada - Do KitKats come in maple? We started this week rolling out KitKat to Moto X on Rogers and Fido, the first Moto X to receive KitKat version 4.4.2
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[Q] Flashing Sprint Moto X to Telcel SFB

Hi everyone, I've been a following XDA for a while i've unlocked, rooted, flashed roms, etc., many times,
But this time i am not sure how to proceed. [I'm also a beginner... but I'm looking forward to contribute in the near future]
You see, I bought a Brand New Sprint Moto X , never been activated on any carrier, it arriving on Monday tops.
I already know how to unlock it, root it, and flash a custom rom.
but want to be able to unlock the gsm capabilities of the phone to use internationally, i know sprint offers this service but i don't qualify because i need to be 3 months in service whit them.
on the other hand i read in the General Section , in the model description:
XT1049 - Republic Wireless
XT1052 - European - Sim ?
XT1053 -T-Mobile US, Dev Ed
XT1055 - US Cellular - Sim ?
XT1056 - Sprint - Sim Unlocked
XT1058 - AT&T, Rogers, Claro, Movistar, Vivo, Oi, TIM - Sim Unlocked
XT1060 - Verizon - Sim Locked
What does it mean being "Sim Unlocked"
While i be able to use it on A GSM service (Mexico)
if not, could a posible solution be flashing the SFB for Telcel to my Sprint phone?
or will i just hard brick it?
Thank you very much for your attention.
Eddie
Didn't know the XT1053 was the Developer Edition, that's cool to know.
I'll be pending to this post.
Best
xphoneuser said:
Hi everyone, I've been a following XDA for a while i've unlocked, rooted, flashed roms, etc., many times,
But this time i am not sure how to proceed. [I'm also a beginner... but I'm looking forward to contribute in the near future]
You see, I bought a Brand New Sprint Moto X , never been activated on any carrier, it arriving on Monday tops.
I already know how to unlock it, root it, and flash a custom rom.
but want to be able to unlock the gsm capabilities of the phone to use internationally, i know sprint offers this service but i don't qualify because i need to be 3 months in service whit them.
on the other hand i read in the General Section , in the model description:
XT1049 - Republic Wireless
XT1052 - European - Sim ?
XT1053 -T-Mobile US, Dev Ed
XT1055 - US Cellular - Sim ?
XT1056 - Sprint - Sim Unlocked
XT1058 - AT&T, Rogers, Claro, Movistar, Vivo, Oi, TIM - Sim Unlocked
XT1060 - Verizon - Sim Locked
What does it mean being "Sim Unlocked"
While i be able to use it on A GSM service (Mexico)
if not, could a posible solution be flashing the SFB for Telcel to my Sprint phone?
or will i just hard brick it?
Thank you very much for your attention.
Eddie
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Sorry it won't work...at least not yet. But it appears you already found the relevant thread on SIM-Unlock for Sprint Moto X.
samwathegreat said:
Sorry it won't work...at least not yet. But it appears you already found the relevant thread on SIM-Unlock for Sprint Moto X.
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hi, thank you!,
what about flashing a Telcel SFB file trough rsd lite?,
xphoneuser said:
hi, thank you!,
what about flashing a Telcel SFB file trough rsd lite?,
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Its been tried. Flashing the SBF itself will work, but the phone will still be sim-locked and unusable on GSM.
Thank you!!
samwathegreat said:
Its been tried. Flashing the SBF itself will work, but the phone will still be sim-locked and unusable on GSM.
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I understand now, reading a lot on the other threads and in other sites it now undrstand that sim unlock cannot be done unless i have service for 3 months or a fix comes [hopefully soon].
thank you.
just before we close this thread..
what if i flash an SFB of a CDMA carrier here, will it work? or will i have to reprogram the phone [ using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-flash-sprint-moto-x-to-page-plus-t2732342 but using my cdma carrier PRL) ????
is this the right place to post this last question?
sorry, and thanks again.
Eddie
xphoneuser said:
I understand now, reading a lot on the other threads and in other sites it now undrstand that sim unlock cannot be done unless i have service for 3 months or a fix comes [hopefully soon].
thank you.
just before we close this thread..
what if i flash an SFB of a CDMA carrier here, will it work? or will i have to reprogram the phone [ using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-flash-sprint-moto-x-to-page-plus-t2732342 but using my cdma carrier PRL) ????
is this the right place to post this last question?
sorry, and thanks again.
Eddie
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Eddie,
Yes, you will need to follow the instructions in the "Flash Sprint Moto X to Page Plus" thread. You will need to change some of the steps as appropriate to YOUR carrier you are flashing to since not all steps will be the same as flashing to "Page Plus". Flashing a CDMA Rom will not work. AFAIK, the only other CDMA ROM available is the Verizon one which prevents you from being able to flash to another carrier. Does anyone know of any others?
Good Luck
samwathegreat said:
Eddie,
Yes, you will need to follow the instructions in the "Flash Sprint Moto X to Page Plus" thread. You will need to change some of the steps as appropriate to YOUR carrier you are flashing to since not all steps will be the same as flashing to "Page Plus". Flashing a CDMA Rom will not work. AFAIK, the only other CDMA ROM available is the Verizon one which prevents you from being able to flash to another carrier. Does anyone know of any others?
Good Luck
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hey, thank you i read in other spanish forums that cdma acivating in iusacell carrier (mx) is confirmed posible.
if its a clean esn i think i dont even need to unlock the bootloader, i dont know.
phone is arriving on monday ill post any results and if im succesfull i will make a guide for those in mi shoes.
thanks again.

[Q] Converting xt1097 to pure edition

I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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Have you tried unlocking your bootloader? It seems to me the Telus version is pretty much a Pure Edition, except for the model number... BTW does it have any TELUS bloatware at all?
FYI I believe the 1095 has different frequency bands.
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I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
As far as bloatware, the only thing Telus installed on this phone is their "My Account" app. It's an app that you can download from the play store.
It's interesting to see the marketing used on Telus' website to describe the Moto X. The catchphrases are: "Pure Style, Pure performance" and then "Pure Android with the quickest updates". It leads me to believe that Telus will pretty much push out updates as they recieve them from Moto.
I'll be less inclined to root and flash if I see that I get timely updates, after using galaxy phones and flashing for the past 5 years i just want something that works great or of the box.
Regards,
Jeremie
johnny grep said:
Have you tried unlocking your bootloader? It seems to me the Telus version is pretty much a Pure Edition, except for the model number... BTW does it have any TELUS bloatware at all?
FYI I believe the 1095 has different frequency bands.
Sent from my Moto X
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Jercote said:
I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
As far as bloatware, the only thing Telus installed on this phone is their "My Account" app. It's an app that you can download from the play store.
It's interesting to see the marketing used on Telus' website to describe the Moto X. The catchphrases are: "Pure Style, Pure performance" and then "Pure Android with the quickest updates". It leads me to believe that Telus will pretty much push out updates as they recieve them from Moto.
I'll be less inclined to root and flash if I see that I get timely updates, after using galaxy phones and flashing for the past 5 years i just want something that works great or of the box.
Regards,
Jeremie
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I have a brazilian version, also model XT1097 from carrier Vivo and I was able to unlock the bootloader and root it normally. Would like to know the difference between the XT1095 and XT1097 though.
Jercote said:
I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
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I have XT1093 (US Cellular). The Pure Edition root method works for all variants with unlockable bootloaders. The key is to follow the directions completely. As it only BOOTS the system image rather than INSTALLS the image, it works fine. Boots the image once, installs SU to your system, then reboots to your system.
Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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hey, I was thinking of getting a Moto X, and was wondering, is the one sold at Telus 16 or 32 GB?
oxxshadow said:
hey, I was thinking of getting a Moto X, and was wondering, is the one sold at Telus 16 or 32 GB?
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Only the 16GB
I thought I was getting a Pure Edition when I bought the unlocked version from Motorola's mexican website, but I got the xt1097... if this is possible that would be great as I believe the pure edition will get updates faster
Could anybody supply the modem for the Telus xt1097? I converted my phone and forgot to backup the modem.
plasticdarlow said:
Could anybody supply the modem for the Telus xt1097? I converted my phone and forgot to backup the modem.
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I have the xt1097, if you can help me do it I will send you the modem for it.
Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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Methodikull said:
I have the xt1097, if you can help me do it I will send you the modem for it.
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Sure thing,
I used the multitool to flash that Pure Edition Moto X 2014 (XT1095) ROM (full wipe)
Then flashed ATT Modem (downloaded from graffixnyc website)
Then sidloaded OTA update
Then restored my EFS from my TWRP backup.
Everything booted up fine, except I don't have a cell signal. It asks me for a SIM network unlock PIN. I'm stuck here.... I want to try and flash the telus modem. Not sure why it's asking for a SIM unlock PIN.
I mean how can I back up the modem file for you
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Methodikull said:
I mean how can I back up the modem file for you
Sent from my XT1097 using XDA Free mobile app
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not exactly sure how
---------- Post added at 05:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:27 PM ----------
UPDATE:
I flashed the modem from the multitool and I have Data again.
338lm said:
Official factory image is now available from Motorola! https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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Give it a try now!
It was asking you for unlocking cuz Att modem is sim locked.
So did you manage to successfully convert to 1095? I'd like to try, but I'm a bit worried about the modem issues, I'd need a sim unlocked modem i can use with Brazilian operators.
I'm a noob in moto x developing, so I'm already reading what multitool is and how-to's.
Moto X (2nd Gen) XT-1097
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012) N-8000
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plasticdarlow said:
Sure thing,
I used the multitool to flash that Pure Edition Moto X 2014 (XT1095) ROM (full wipe)
Then flashed ATT Modem (downloaded from graffixnyc website)
Then sidloaded OTA update
Then restored my EFS from my TWRP backup.
Everything booted up fine, except I don't have a cell signal. It asks me for a SIM network unlock PIN. I'm stuck here.... I want to try and flash the telus modem. Not sure why it's asking for a SIM unlock PIN.
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Any luck getting your phone working? You have an XT1097 right?
Hey guys,
Telus XT1097 user here.
Trying to flash back to stock so I can get some lollipop action.
Which factory image should I be installing here ? I don't think our phones are dev editions / pure editions...
Thanks !
Here is everything you need guys.
http://www.techtastic.nl/android/motorola/installeer-android-5-0-lollipop-op-de-moto-x-xt1092/
It's in Dutch but gives you step by step instructions how to backup your modem and restore it using dd commands. A google translate should suffice.
I have a 1097, but i haven't done anything yet, i don't wanna mess up my brand new phone LOL
i'm reading about the changes to 1095 and mostly the modem issue.
floepie said:
Here is everything you need guys.
http://www.techtastic.nl/android/motorola/installeer-android-5-0-lollipop-op-de-moto-x-xt1092/
It's in Dutch but gives you step by step instructions how to backup your modem and restore it using dd commands. A google translate should suffice.
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I wonder if that only works on some XT1097 phones, I got a "Permission Denied" error when I tried it on mine.

moto X developer question

i found a moto X developer and will this work on the att network and i hope someone can help me out?
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
According to this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X#Variants
The Moto X model XT-1053 is the unlocked Developer Edition phone and does work on AT&T. The bands area also listed there.
thank for the help.
So i have to download the moto X developer image for att right?
perlsyntax said:
thank for the help.
So i have to download the moto X developer image for att right?
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Yes that appears to be correct. I do not have a Developer Edition, but there is only one set of images for Verizon, which does have a DE device available. The firmware is the same, to my understanding, but the bootloader is able to be unlocked officially via the Motorola website.
Here are the firmwares you'll want. Ensure that if you pick one, you can only go UP in version, not down. So verify which version is on the phone first. You can only flash that version or a higher version (upgrading) but cannot downgrade to an older version. That will cause problems.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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Nemosfate said:
You want one of these UNLESS you're on 4.4.4 then you'll have to get it from Motorola.
I have the xt1053 developers edition and it works just fine on at&t , that's what I'm using
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!
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What about the XT1060DEV is this the Verzion phone or the gsm one?
perlsyntax said:
What about the XT1060DEV is this the Verzion phone or the gsm one?
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XT1060 is the model for Verizon.
Google what bands it uses. Then compare to what at&t uses. I've seen in here people using it on tmo Idk about at&t. As far as which version to mix with your phone I'll bow out to someone with more experience with that
Edit: and next time you post make sure you put what MODEL phone you have and the software version. Would've saved some time possibly.
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!
Nemosfate said:
Google what bands it uses. Then compare to what at&t uses. I've seen in here people using it on tmo Idk about at&t. As far as which version to mix with your phone I'll bow out to someone with more experience with that
Edit: and next time you post make sure you put what MODEL phone you have and the software version. Would've saved some time possibly.
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!
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Sorry about that.I hear the samething it work with t-mobile.
No problem.. And I know there's a thread somewhere with this info in it.. So a search and see if you can find it.. Good luck
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