[GUIDE] [Hard mod] Nexus 5's throttling solved by adding thermal paste. - Nexus 5 General

Try this at your own risk. Warranty is voided (obviously) if you do this mod.
I will try to add some more useful pics & links in the future.
More proof will be added if its needed.
Also this is my first guide so please pardon me and tell me what can I improve on.
(all photos here if links not working. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ytidqu7ghvz8x1i/OIXAtT_8Pu)
Some important info first:
Phone info:
My Nexus 5 has a CPU binning of PVS 2 with -50mV undervolt for all clock speeds.
Running 4.4.2 stock rooted with latest stable Faux kernel.
Some shots of my Faux Clock settings (no signal in the pictures because i haven't put my SIM card in):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gvmolw5vkyisio0/Screenshot_2014-01-29-00-18-24.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6j0azscvg1qtq3/Screenshot_2014-01-29-00-18-45.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5frslsm9crdi774/Screenshot_2014-01-29-00-18-53.png
Don't even worry about that 85c limit that I set on picture 1. After this mod it wont even be close to 80c.
Antutu scores at 2.5Ghz:
30079 after mod room temperature 25c https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkeu4b9p6dgugan/Screenshot_2014-01-29-07-02-54.png
31191 before mod at temperature of -4c on a trip at a cold country https://www.dropbox.com/s/vqsilj39q39z12n/Screenshot_2014-01-29-06-14-16.png
Not the best scores but see the difference in the places tested?
Temperature immediately after 10 minutes of Asphalt 8:
(Temperature around the bottom right of the picture)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kri8h8hxfxz19pf/Screenshot_2014-01-29-00-46-20.png
It showed 54c 1 second later but anyway its still cooler than any phone I had before.
I played until 20 minutes and there is still ZERO throttling. I haven't tried playing any longer though but at 20 minutes its just a little warm, not even close to hot.
Oh and the room temperature was 25c.
The Nexus 4 copper block mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652 isn't ideal because of the smaller gap (1.5mm vs 0.5mm) so yeah.
WARNING: DON'T follow the way they applied the thermal paste on the N4 mod thread. IT IS WRONG because it will not be evenly spreaded.
Try to use good thermal paste's like the Noctua NT-H1, Arctic Cooling MX-2/MX-3/MX-4, Prolimatech PK-1/PK-2/PK-3, Tuniq TX-2, Gelid GC-Extreme and a few others that I can't recall.
Don't just pick any random paste because some are even WORSE than mayonnaise (yes, mayonnaise works but dont use it unless you want your phone to smell like rotten mayonnaise and I 'think' its electrically conductive).
DO NOT use electrically conductive thermal pastes like Indigo Xtreme & Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra/Pro as they are obviously not good for uses on the phone.
Also because the Indigo Xtreme & Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra/Pro WILL cause corrosion like this https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSR8rn5Q92qYNmQmAbUJ4zzF5R5VzLsaZ_go1bxk8xfDHIDvWJZ
Now the guide:
Step 1: Take your phone apart using this guide http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
Step 2: Step 14 at above link shows that square box beside to the left of number 53.
Now clean the square box and the SKHynix RAM( as seen in Step 11 at above link) with and a microfibre cloth to prevent leaving lint as lint affects thermal transfer.
Pour some rubbing alcohol on the cloth an rub the red coloured number 3 and black 'tick' off as the ink might affect thermal transfer as well.
A tissue can be used too but just remember to blow/clean the lint off.
Step 3: (Read this before applying thermal paste http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooling-air-pressure-heatsink,3058-9.html)
Now put thermal paste at the middle of the square box.
The paste has to cover the whole RAM (don't worry the CPU is just directly under it). Do not put too much or little as it isn't good.
Use the pea method like this http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2013/01/thermal-paste-thermal-100021574-orig.jpeg but you need to put much more because of the 0.5 mm gap between the RAM and the square box. Just make sure it fills the square box. Then put the RAM back.
It should look something like this when its done correctly (bottom right picture) https://www.dropbox.com/s/vci7uor6xlzt879/dsad.PNG
DO NOT let the paste overflow out of the box. To make sure how, just put the RAM back in place properly then take it out again.
If its too much/little then just add/remove some. To remove the additional paste, just use the microfibre cloth/tissue + rubbing alcohol to rub it away.
Now just put everything back and enjoy the phone that will probably never throttle while gaming Oh the thermal paste I used was Noctua NT-H1.
Well that's it. I hope my English is clear & good enough. Please leave a comment if there is anything more that I can add/remove/improve. Also leave a comment if you are unclear or have any questions regarding this.
Just hit thanks if this helped you

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Another reserved post just in case

well i dont want to take apart my phone but nice mod...
btw none of the Pictures is working!!

PLEEZEFRAGME said:
well i dont want to take apart my phone but nice mod...
btw none of the Pictures is working!!
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Fixed for the dropbox ones. The others should be fine.
I only dared to did this because I lost my warranty in the first place by dropping my phone in the water.
It's dried & working already by putting the phone in a ziploc bag with rice + silica gel.

I don't see pictures either.
Was waiting for this to be done with this phone.
Now, you should be able to post some crazy antutu scores?
WR
Sent from my Nexus 7

WarRaven said:
I don't see pictures either.
Was waiting for this to be done with this phone.
Now, you should be able to post some crazy antutu scores?
WR
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Which pics you can't see? I'll probably update it tomorrow as its 6am here now... OP updated with antutu scores @ 2.5Ghz.

I don't see any pics, little white boxes.
You should be able to smoke my score at room temperature.
This is mine, in a warm vehicle, 2.5ghz stock ROM(Art). Was 32c at start I believe.
BTW, I'm not attacking your thread or reasoning, just looking forward to results of this being done, and then used.
As well, what it could be pushed to?
WR
Sent from my Nexus 5

WarRaven said:
I don't see any pics, little white boxes.
You should be able to smoke my score at room temperature.
This is mine, in a warm vehicle, 2.5ghz stock ROM(Art). Was 32c at start I believe.
BTW, I'm not attacking your thread or reasoning, just looking forward to results of this being done, and then used.
As well, what it could be pushed to?
WR
Sent from my Nexus 5
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What's your PVS number?I don't have any before pics but i remember it was around 20-23k scores before the mod. Its not high but after doing this the phone only feels warm to the touch, not hot anymore. I've seen scores high as 38775 but no matter what I just can't get past 32k. Just fyi I live in Singapore.

I'm not sure, can never get it.
I don't under volt so I never bothered.
Yeah, I'm northern Alberta Canada.
Warm right now, unusually nice, means the bad stuff is coming with a vengeance.
Though prior to testing my core read
32c or so.. little lower then normal but not cold. When it's colder then a witch's tit here in February, I'll do a cold test then for yucks.
WR
Sent from my Nexus 5

WarRaven said:
I'm not sure, can never get it.
I don't under volt so I never bothered.
Yeah, I'm northern Alberta Canada.
Warm right now, unusually nice, means the bad stuff is coming with a vengeance.
Though prior to testing my core read
32c or so.. little lower then normal but not cold. When it's colder then a witch's tit here in February, I'll do a cold test then for yucks.
WR
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Use this to get PVS number http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/poll-cpu-binning-t2052496 .I don't know why but I really can't get anything higher than 32k. Maybe its just my bad luck.

OK, pvs2, so nothing special.
Running on elemental, no l2 o/c, only core.
WR
Sent from my Nexus 5

New link at top of OP for all photos. I can view it fine on chrome, internet explorer and on my N5. Not sure why you guys can't. If still can't, then I'll upload it elsewhere.

pyj08178 said:
New link at top of OP for all photos. I can view it fine on chrome, internet explorer and on my N5. Not sure why you guys can't. If still can't, then I'll upload it elsewhere.
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Any pics of the actual mod? There aren't any in the OP.

_MetalHead_ said:
Any pics of the actual mod? There aren't any in the OP.
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Updated. See post #2. Put my name on it to show that its done, not taken from somewhere or edited. Mind telling me if the links are fixed?

pyj08178 said:
Updated. See post #2. Put my name on it to show that its done, not taken from somewhere or edited. Mind telling me if the links are fixed?
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Great, thanks! Yeah, all the links work fine for me.

pyj08178 said:
Updated. See post #2. Put my name on it to show that its done, not taken from somewhere or edited. Mind telling me if the links are fixed?
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Them posted fine for my viewing.
First ones tried to post as pics, white boxes appeared instead, now they're links.. just pointing out what I saw.
WR
Sent from my Nexus 7

Added image of my rubbing alcohol used on post #2.

Mh, I'm still not sure that transfer heat to display is a good idea...

gpvecchi said:
Mh, I'm still not sure that transfer heat to display is a good idea...
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Display isn't hot either. That metal plate dissipates heat pretty well.

Related

Another crack at an overclocking app?

For what it's worth...
no2chem has an app he's working on that suppose to overclock the TP to
800mhz.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/09/06/Touch-Pro-running-at-800MHZ.aspx
I'm not endorsing attempting to overclock anything. The last thing I ever overclocked what a celeron 300, to 450Mhz back in the day LOL, but, for you
hard core types, might want to head over there and read the thread. THE APPLICATION IS NOT AVAILABLE to download yet, I suppose he wants to really make sure your TP does not burst into flames, or cause a rift in the time space thingy
I read through the whole thing. It looks very promising, but is in its starting stages. Hopefully we can see something good come out of it. If we pick up a few hunderd MHZ, im sure it will greatly help the phone out.
Yeah, I've been following the thread also. If they can get it to work...I'm thinking it would be a trade off. Yes, I'll bet anything these chips are a bit underclocked, but, I'm also believing they are underclocked to remain stable.
Plus, anytime you run one over the specs, it just has to have a marked decrease in battery life, and it almost has to heat it up a bit. Those electrons can only run around inside that tiny package so fast before they heat up
I tried the app 2 times on my Fuze running 6.5 Energy Rom. Crashed everytime I tried to run the program. Gonna wait for the finished product to see how it turns out because the "test version" does not.
Ok so why in the world would anyone want to speed this little Gem up?
Running an energyrom i can run AD2P plus read a book or surf the net fine (hell ive even logged onto one of my webhosts from it) without any lag or speed trade off.
Isnt this just going to kill battery and heat the thing up?
you cant play games like quake and tony hawk with default speeds.. overclocking will enable u to play those games without a lag
hdaackda said:
you cant play games like quake and tony hawk with default speeds.. overclocking will enable u to play those games without a lag
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by the way i guess you guys didnt see my posts. this was all ready covered even have benchmark results.
dearmasfamily said:
by the way i guess you guys didnt see my posts. this was all ready covered even have benchmark results.
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Actually i covered this before you and anyone else on my blogspot, flame ON! xD jk jk.

[Q] Overclock on the G Tablet

I have several questions about overclocking on the G Tablet:
1: Is anyone using an Overclock App?
2: What are the real benefits of running an Overclock App?
3: What damage is done by running an Overclock App?
4: What is the best Overclock app for the G Tablet?
5: Are any of these apps worth the money?
I look forward to the replies!
No overclock on the g-tablet as of yet.
I've contacted Mike who does the SETCPU. He said he'll update for tegra 2 support as soon as he can get his hands on a device to test on.
lordgodgeneral said:
I've contacted Mike who does the SETCPU. He said he'll update for tegra 2 support as soon as he can get his hands on a device to test on.
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Do the current kernels support overclock? Normally you need to specify clock speed slots in the kernel then apps like setcpu allow for those slots.
enjoy!
http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=1733
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enjoy!
http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=1733
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Awesome, will try it out. Thanks pershoot.
Wowzer just tried pershoots kernel and checkout the results on quadrant and linpack on Vegan 5.1.
wow..
@pershoot.. i have a question , im just a newbie with kernels. how do i install a kernel and is there a settings for that and lastly if i OC my tab will the battery last shorter? and how about the temp?
thanks
Whoa! Nice job Pershoot! Testing very well on Calkulins and Vegan Ginger. Excellent work!
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I don't see any hit on the battery... assuming you leave it in power save mode and not performance mode in Setcpu.
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It is neither.
A tweaked ondemand is default with nv's driver taking some precedence.
Got it!
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@ 07aspenx do you have a steps by step on what you did to make yours so fast? I did setcpu but only got 1700 or so on quadrant. Still better then most devices but nearly as fast as yours.
nelomen said:
@ 07aspenx do you have a steps by step on what you did to make yours so fast? I did setcpu but only got 1700 or so on quadrant. Still better then most devices but nearly as fast as yours.
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All I did was flash the .zip file on pershoot's site then ran Quadrant. I was also getting 1700-1800 on a non OC'ed Vegan 5.1.1.
I'm new to the whole flashing/rooting concept.. But I bought the G Tablet about a week ago and after several trials and errors and trying several roms I finally got it flashed to G Harmony (gingerbread) v2.3 which I found to be the best and have it overclocked @1.4ghz.. The most simple and to the point way I could describe it is follow the directions on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245.
Downloads:
G Hamony 2.3 (Ginerbread):
http://www.mediafire.com/?9595v6bffbrl6c1
GAPPS for G Harmony(install from zip in recovery):
http://www.mediafire.com/?koa8cb50ncyjdlt
Kernal (install from zip in recovery):
http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=1733
On the edge
I have found that the AOSP ROMS are fast. I use the following rom.
ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007455
Be sure to pick up the G-APPS that goes with it.
I have found that clemsyn creates a mean kernel. His 1500mhz kernel is awesome. If your willing to go higher, he has one that will take you to 1700mhz.
However I must echo his words in that the specs for the processor are being pushed over the limits that Nvidia recommends. Now, if you like living on the edge, this is one great kernel.
Getting Dirty
Now, for a little dirty work.
Since you have already destroyed your warranty by modding ( however you can return to factory and no one usually knows.), you can now modify your hardware.
Yes, you can!!! It is called a heatsink!!!... Now how does it work??? Well, I will tell you.
See next reply for more info... ( I need to post more in order to be able to play in big boy land... )
PLEASE NOTE: Read all the Dirty posts before you start. This is for your own protection ( and mine). If you don't get warm and fuzzy thinking about doing the follow procedure, THEN DON'T!!!!
Beginning to get Dirty
Ok.. I have to post 3 more times I think... so.. to start off here and continue from my last post:
You have to take your G-Tab apart. Yes... it is necessary to see the innards!!!!
now... 4 screws hold that back on... BUT, there are little tabs holding it together after you pull the 4 small phillips screws. So, now you have to get a little physical with your G-Tab. Please remember that you are doing this at your own risk. I have done this... but I have relatively major experience in hardware. (was an electronic tech in old life) So, faint of heart... do not attempt!!!!
OK.. now you get to read my next post!!!!
Now we're Dirty
Ok.. if you accomplished the mission in the last post, your dirty... You have nicked, gouged, and smudged your pretty G-Tab. All is not lost, you are now into its guts!!!!
Ok, Now we really are going to cause havok. This is not recommended by anyone, but I have accomplished the task and will at least give directions. Please remember that anything you do beyond this point is totally your responsibility.
Ok, now that you have your back off, you need to gently pop the metal cover off of the electronics. It is shiny and extremely thin, so be very careful not to bend or warp it. Do not remove the tape from the end that is taped down. This will help keep things in perspective and it will go back on easier.
Now, you have found the object of our search. The CPU!!!!
Now, the hard part. Based on your observation of where the cpu is in relation to the cover, put a mark on the outside of the cover approximately where the center of the cpu is. ( now, for the more serious, measure and mark. More precise)
OK, now I hope you have read all of this instead of just doing one at a time. I guess I should go back and edit the first one and add that as a caveat. I will add the next post after I do that. Don't want to cause you guys problems.
Past Dirty!!!
Ok, now we will add some heat sink compound to our cpu. A very ( and I mean very) small amount at the very center of the raised portion of the cpu is all we need. Now, after studying the situation, I noticed that the cover is higher than the raised portion of the cpu. For heat sink compound to work, it needs to be touching two things. One is the cpu, and the other is the heat sink. Well guess what our heat sink is???? Yep, you guessed it.. the metal cover. Now, it isn't the best in the world, but in heat dissipation, every little bit helps. So, now for the hard part. Put the metal cover back on ( an you have the center of the cpu marked on it, right?). Using a small ( not sharp, I used an eye glasses repair type screwdriver with a blade tip) tool, press down on the metal cover around the area that you marked as the center of the cpu. the metal is pliable and does not take a lot of pressure to bend. We just want some of it to press against the cpu as to form a heat bridge.
Now, you can power on the G-Tab after you have done this and make sure all is good. If so, then power down, and put the back cover back on. We are done with our little surgery for the G-Tab.
This will help with any overclocking you do.
Caveat: It does not remove the danger of burning up your processor!!!!!

[SCREEN] Yellow spot when CPU gets warm [Poll]

Hey guys,
I got my N4 8G last week on Friday and the first what I saw when the CPU gets a little bit warmer (during Benchmarks or heavy use)
I can see a ugly Yellow spot on the Screen near where the CPU sits, as seen on ifixit.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4ESb_YBhAxITkd0SExNLUNablk
Did any of you guys have the same issue or should I replace the phone as soon as they are available again?
kabauterman said:
CPU gets a little bit warmer (during Benchmarks or heavy use)
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I don't get this trend with warm CPUs. My Galaxy Nexus used to get really hot sometimes but it never had any impact on screen quality, didn't make yellow spots or anything else.
Yesterday, I was charging the N4, while streaming and HD movie at full screen brightness. Nothing. Wasn't warm. Neither was it warm when I ran three benchmarks after one another.
Try turning on FORCE GPU RENDERING in Developer Options.
DonJuan89 said:
I don't get this trend with warm CPUs. My Galaxy Nexus used to get really hot sometimes but it never had any impact on screen quality, didn't make yellow spots or anything else.
Yesterday, I was charging the N4, while streaming and HD movie at full screen brightness. Nothing. Wasn't warm. Neither was it warm when I ran three benchmarks after one another.
Try turning on FORCE GPU RENDERING in Developer Options.
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Either you are trolling or are completely oblivious to temperature changes. This phone gets really hot, because LG doesn't know crap about proper thermal design. Google was stupid not to choose Sony for this Nexus, but I'm assuming they're waiting for Sony to use Quad Cores. I'm confident that the next Nexus phone will be a Sony. I can't wait.
InvalidUsername said:
Either you are trolling or are completely oblivious to temperature changes. This phone gets really hot, because LG doesn't know crap about proper thermal design.
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you must have another phone as i have. My N4 doesn't get warm, not with benchmarks, movies or while loading.
My n4 gets warm, but not hot, and i dont see any changes in screen
Chrisch-RT said:
you must have another phone as i have. My N4 doesn't get warm, not with benchmarks, movies or while loading.
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thats strange, mine get pretty hot! Mostly while loading or benchmarks but also just on Chrome or normal use
Maybe I realy need to replace it by Google.
kabauterman said:
thats strange, mine get pretty hot! Mostly while loading or benchmarks but also just on Chrome or normal use
Maybe I realy need to replace it by Google.
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No, they all do the exact same thing. Like I said, anyone who claims that theirs doesn't get warm is either a) completely oblivious to heat, b) is a serious Google/LG fanboy, or c) is trolling for the sake of trolling.
InvalidUsername said:
No, they all do the exact same thing. Like I said, anyone who claims that theirs doesn't get warm is either a) completely oblivious to heat, b) is a serious Google/LG fanboy, or c) is trolling for the sake of trolling.
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yeah its getting "warm" but not hot like you say. My N4 reaches maybe the same temp like my HTC One S.
InvalidUsername said:
No, they all do the exact same thing. Like I said, anyone who claims that theirs doesn't get warm is either a) completely oblivious to heat, b) is a serious Google/LG fanboy, or c) is trolling for the sake of trolling.
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Hot/Warm or whatever = OK usual and maybe custom Kernels with UV will fix
but my Yellow screen spot is not OK I think so far..
kabauterman said:
Hot/Warm or whatever = OK usual and maybe custom Kernels with UV will fix
but my Yellow screen spot is not OK I think so far..
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I agree. I would let Google know immediately, and demand that they let me keep the phone while they get me a new one.
InvalidUsername said:
No, they all do the exact same thing. Like I said, anyone who claims that theirs doesn't get warm is either a) completely oblivious to heat, b) is a serious Google/LG fanboy, or c) is trolling for the sake of trolling.
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Mine does get warm, but not hot, and I don't have any yellow display or throttling issues...but now, just because you said it, its sweating too!
Aaaah....this i-know-everything kids...
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PS. Probably you have to cope with the idea of a defective device
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InvalidUsername said:
Either you are trolling or are completely oblivious to temperature changes. This phone gets really hot, because LG doesn't know crap about proper thermal design. Google was stupid not to choose Sony for this Nexus, but I'm assuming they're waiting for Sony to use Quad Cores. I'm confident that the next Nexus phone will be a Sony. I can't wait.
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Yeah, no. Not trolling. Mine just doesn't get hot. Turning on Force GPU Rendering solved that same issue when I was having it with the Gnex. Force GPU takes load of the CPU, so it doesn't get hot.
I don't know what else to tell you, it's just doesn't get warm/hot for me.
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InvalidUsername said:
No, they all do the exact same thing. Like I said, anyone who claims that theirs doesn't get warm is either a) completely oblivious to heat, b) is a serious Google/LG fanboy, or c) is trolling for the sake of trolling.
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Dude, why don't you just chill. And while you're chilling, pick up a new phone while you're at it since your's is getting hot.
And "completely oblivious to heat"? Right now, I can tell you that it's 10C outside in Berlin and it's a big difference to when it was 35C. Seems to me like you're just making a big deal out of a little heating. It's a quad core processor, what do you expect?
InvalidUsername said:
Either you are trolling or are completely oblivious to temperature changes. This phone gets really hot, because LG doesn't know crap about proper thermal design. Google was stupid not to choose Sony for this Nexus, but I'm assuming they're waiting for Sony to use Quad Cores. I'm confident that the next Nexus phone will be a Sony. I can't wait.
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The Phone gets hot because the CPU burns allot of energy is has bothing to do with the phone design.
The main problem is that google totally f****d up CPU power management, why it the CPU locked at 1Ghz when the screen is on, why does it scale to 1.5 GHz when you touch the screen?? which results in swyping and typing killing the battery.
wurzelsepp3 said:
The Phone gets hot because the CPU burns allot of energy is has bothing to do with the phone design.
The main problem is that google totally f****d up CPU power management, why it the CPU locked at 1Ghz when the screen is on, why does it scale to 1.5 GHz when you touch the screen?? which results in swyping and typing killing the battery.
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thats another point, I think the Kernel is not in a perfect state for now but updates will come and custom Kernels will come
so this is not the main problem for me
wurzelsepp3 said:
The Phone gets hot because the CPU burns allot of energy is has bothing to do with the phone design.
The main problem is that google totally f****d up CPU power management, why it the CPU locked at 1Ghz when the screen is on, why does it scale to 1.5 GHz when you touch the screen?? which results in swyping and typing killing the battery.
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I'm pretty sure that's because of Project Butter. I'd take a little heat for some better performance/visuals any day.
Not sure what the issue is here. My GDS got hot when gaming, charging, etc asvdoes my nexus 7, my laptop, my pic and every other device I have ever owned.
The issue though is the great really causing some type of an issue with the glue? I would guess they would know but then again who knows..
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wurzelsepp3 said:
The Phone gets hot because the CPU burns allot of energy is has bothing to do with the phone design.
The main problem is that google totally f****d up CPU power management, why it the CPU locked at 1Ghz when the screen is on, why does it scale to 1.5 GHz when you touch the screen?? which results in swyping and typing killing the battery.
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Are you serious? Unless you are an android Dev or someone in the know with these services then I think you are just making some type of an uneducated assumption. Really, no offense intended.
Are you an so Dev, android Dev or do you have any expert agreement on this?
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Google had the very best engineers, etc on their payroll. I highly doubt they would miss something and someone with no experience would figure it out. who knows though, maybe you are a top kernal coder or something..
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Haven't done the yellow spot test yet. So can't tell.
The way I do the test: Install StabilityTest, set screen brightness to 100%, run CPU+GPU Test, wrap phone in a blanket and try get the temperature to 40C or above, then check with a white background.
richteralan said:
Haven't done the yellow spot test yet. So can't tell.
The way I do the test: Install StabilityTest, set screen brightness to 100%, run CPU+GPU Test, wrap phone in a blanket and try get the temperature to 40C or above, then check with a white background.
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It looks like if your phone doesn't have issues it will likely develop one if u carry on with this so called test...
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I have the same issue as the OP. and in pretty much same spots...
Just for the sake of asking, putting my phone in gpu rendering is it easier on the phone or harder work load wise?
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302k Nexus vs 304k Nexus

I figured i should post this as it struck me as kinda odd...I got my new Nexus 4 today, My original had a small gap on the right side of the phone between the chrome and back section, and I wanted to compare the two so I ran some small test like Youtube, Browser, ect..the newer Nexus for some reason seemed just a little bit snappier..I then ran Antutu Benchmark and the scores were not close....Original has been factory reset..Both phones are completely stock and all settings were the same..Any thoughts are welcome
BTW phone on the left is original 302K. The one on the right is the newer 304K.
Sorry about the pic...took it with my girls LG Optimus L9..
leeEXHIB said:
I figured i should post this as it struck me as kinda odd...I got my new Nexus 4 today, My original had a small gap on the right side of the phone between the chrome and back section, and I wanted to compare the two so I ran some small test like Youtube, Browser, ect..the newer Nexus for some reason seemed just a little bit snappier..I then ran Antutu Benchmark and the scores were not close....Original has been factory reset..Both phones are completely stock and all settings were the same..Any thoughts are welcome
BTW phone on the left is original 302K. The one on the right is the newer 304K.
Sorry about the pic...took it with my girls LG Optimus L9..
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Since the number only refers to the month of manufacture, it is likely that there are no differences. The few differences that might influence score would be outside temperature, internal phone temperature (one might be warmer/colder than the other internally, affecting speeds) and throttling engaged during the benchmark itself.
Exactly the same apps and accounts that sync on both phones? What was the temperature of the left phone? It lacks in the 3D test, so it could be possible that it got hot enough for the GPU to get throttled. To test this, you could wipe both phones to complete stock and ensure they both have no extra app downloaded, and install a custom kernel that raises the throttle temperature higher. If they come out roughly the same, it probably means you handled the left phone more than the right so it was already warmer and thus, reached the stock throttle temperature, or that the new Nexus 4 is better at dissipating the extra heat.
And i think the "seemed just a little bit snappier" may well be a placebo as stock Nexus 4 has some pretty aggressive mpdecision stuff that ensures the experience is as smooth as can be.
304K has a yellow tint like screen. Maybe its just the picture or the camera you used and the left phone can be throttled so assuming they have both stock rom and kernel without undervolt the newer 304K has lower temperatures.
My 302 k stock higher than your 304 .. It doesn't matter which "newer" version the nexus is. It works the same and the interior specs is the same. Threads about how 304 is different are pointless
I'm thinking they're not as "identically" set up as we're made to believe, like the alarm on the old phone and the no cellular service
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I'm perplexed as to why no one has pointed out that there is no left and right in the picture, only up and down.
teambestyrandy said:
My 302 k stock higher than your 304 .. It doesn't matter which "newer" version the nexus is. It works the same and the interior specs is the same. Threads about how 304 is different are pointless
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Haha. Thread ends right here!
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It mainly depends on the variant of the s4 and any external variables that may trigger the throttling.
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Some batches of CPUs are better than others (just in what they can withstand) like some chips perform faster over clocked. While others (like mine) are slower when overclocked
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Nexus 6 gets really hot

Well my Nexus 6 has started getting really hot even with moderate usage. Its not like it burns my hand but it gets uncomfortable at times and it worries me.
If I'm just browsing on chrome, checking out Facebook, or playing a simple game like Crossy Roads, the phone starts getting really warm and after a while its really hot. Even when on WiFi it becomes hot. I have to close all the apps and leave it for a while so that it cools down. I don't have a lot of apps open all the time and I have a lot of memory remaining.
I can't really figure out what's the problem, any suggestions?
Thanks.
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I refuse to run facebook, I want facebook I run it from the the browser.
Never really had heat issues.
AstroDigital said:
I refuse to run facebook, I want facebook I run it from the the browser.
Never really had heat issues.
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+1 Facebook application consumes extreme amounts of battery and system resources. That would be my first suggestion as well. Uninstall Facebook and see if you notice an improvement.
It would be easier to suggest something if you let us know if you are stock or have been playing with roms/ kernels and their settings.... I have seen other phones get hot with too aggressive kernel settings.....
first off, what cpu temperature ate you talking about? secondly, feel does not give you am accurate temperature reading, all its does is show you if something is hotter, or cooler, than your hand. thirdly, your phone can get up to 99C in temp. at 100C, the boiling point of water, your phone would automatically shut down to cool off. now while using your phone, especially when using the cpu hard, it will get hot. but that is normal. you own a quad core phone with a 2.65ghz cpu. do you really expwct it to stay cold?
Thanks for the suggestions.
I'll try uninstalling Facebook and getting back to you. I've already uninstalled Facebook Messenger.
My CPU temperature is around 41 degrees Celsius and when it gets warm to the point that its uncomfortable is around 58-60 degrees Celsius.
In know it has a really powerful cpu but I don't always want to be holding a device that is warm to the point that it becomes uncomfortable.
Also I haven't even attempted rooting or changing the kernels so its all stock.
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Pr0DiGYs- said:
Thanks for the suggestions.
I'll try uninstalling Facebook and getting back to you. I've already uninstalled Facebook Messenger.
My CPU temperature is around 41 degrees Celsius and when it gets warm to the point that its uncomfortable is around 58-60 degrees Celsius.
In know it has a really powerful cpu but I don't always want to be holding a device that is warm to the point that it becomes uncomfortable.
Also I haven't even attempted rooting or changing the kernels so its all stock.
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58-60C is VERY normal, when using the phone. so maybe a powerful phone isnt right for you.
But is it normal to feel warm? Even though its powerful shouldn't it stay cool? Is this happening to every Nexus 6 user? Sorry for the influx of questions
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Pr0DiGYs- said:
But is it normal to feel warm? Even though its powerful shouldn't it stay cool? Is this happening to every Nexus 6 user? Sorry for the influx of questions
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again, feel osnt an accurate way to kudge temperature. if your hand is cooler, the phone will feel more hot. your phones temp also is dependent on the air temp around you. as if its warmer outside, then the phone will get warmer. but yea, every nexus can and will get that warm. and at times, will get even warmer! try plugging in to a charger and streaming a movie. in this situation, ive seen my phone hit 74C. but thats normal as well. unlike deaktop computers, our phones dont have fans blowing to keep the cpu cool. we rely on an inactive way to keep our phones cooler, so its normal for the more powerfully phones to get warm, and even hot.
Try this.
I was having overheating issues. When gaming, charging, or just about anything other than the phone at an idle. I cleared the cache in recovery. That's it. I did not uninstall anything or modify anything in any way. And now I do not have those issues. Is that what fixed it? I do not know. Will it work for anyone else? I do not know that either. But, I'm pretty sure that if you can clear the cache with your stock recovery, it won't hurt anything. Maybe you will get lucky and it works. Bonus benefit, battery life improved for me as well. Maybe 20% better. I hope it helps you as much as it did for me.
Good Luck.
JdgM3NT4L said:
I was having overheating issues. When gaming, charging, or just about anything other than the phone at an idle. I cleared the cache in recovery. That's it. I did not uninstall anything or modify anything in any way. And now I do not have those issues. Is that what fixed it? I do not know. Will it work for anyone else? I do not know that either. But, I'm pretty sure that if you can clear the cache with your stock recovery, it won't hurt anything. Maybe you will get lucky and it works. Bonus benefit, battery life improved for me as well. Maybe 20% better. I hope it helps you as much as it did for me.
Good Luck.
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if you are having "overheating" issues, then you are saying that your phone hits 100C constantly and reboot? if not, its not an "overheating" issue, its an issue with you and some heat.
simms22 said:
if you are having "overheating" issues, then you are saying that your phone hits 100C constantly and reboot? if not, its not an "overheating" issue, its an issue with you and some heat.
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No. What I am saying is that it did get hot enough to reboot. And now it does not get hot enough to reboot. I guess I should know to be absolutely clear on these forums. Thanks.
JdgM3NT4L said:
No. What I am saying is that it did get hot enough to reboot. And now it does not get hot enough to reboot. I guess I should know to be absolutely clear on these forums. Thanks.
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odd. considering that thermal throttle is on by default. do you disable thermal throttle manually?
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odd. considering that thermal throttle is on by default. do you disable thermal throttle manually?
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No, what is odd is that I posted my experience with a similar issue on my Nexus 6 from at&t, and now I am responding to this.
But, fine.
I prefer not to beat around the bush. So, if you want to say it's not possible? Ok. that's cool. Think I am lying? That's fine as well. Heck I probably am. Just disregard the whole thing. It isn't important. at all. I wish I had something more meaningful to add. I'm starting to feel a little dirty from spamming up the thread with this. So I am happy to digress first man. You won. :good: :highfive: :victory:
And so sorry O.P. Didn't mean to push any buttons and junk up your thread.
Now that that's out of the way. Please try to have a good day.
JdgM3NT4L said:
No, what is odd is that I posted my experience with a similar issue on my Nexus 6 from at&t, and now I am responding to this.
But, fine.
I prefer not to beat around the bush. So, if you want to say it's not possible? Ok. that's cool. Think I am lying? That's fine as well. Heck I probably am. Just disregard the whole thing. It isn't important. at all. I wish I had something more meaningful to add. I'm starting to feel a little dirty from spamming up the thread with this. So I am happy to digress first man. You won. :good: :highfive: :victory:
And so sorry O.P. Didn't mean to push any buttons and junk up your thread.
Now that that's out of the way. Please try to have a good day.
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lol! im not saying youre lying! seriously. im just saying that the behavior that you experienced is odd, considering thermal throttle being there. i actively disable thermal throttle every single time i boot up. and i try, really try, but have not been able to reach 100C on my n6. and i run my cpu at 3032mhz high and low cpu speed. now my nexus 5 reaches shutdown very easy, it takes seconds to get it there. my n6, no matter how hard i push, purposefully, i can not get it to reach 100C. now your reboot might have been something completely different, and you not reaching thermal shutdown. but i doubt you would have known that, because you would need a live cpu temp in your status bar to see if you hit thermal shutdown. and i doubt you have a cpu temp showing in your status bar. i do
If your phone is 55+C while you are not using it very intensely there's a problem.
I listen to music, watch videos, play some games like clash of clans and I never break 50 Celsius.
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If your phone is 55+C while you are not using it very intensely there's a problem.
I listen to music, watch videos, play some games like clash of clans and I never break 50 Celsius.
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youre probably looking at the battery temp. battery temp is different. if your battery hits 60C, youll automatically shut down. everyone i know with a nexus 6 sees over 50C cpu temp rather often. well, depending how hard you are using the cpu, and the temp around you.
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lol! im not saying youre lying! seriously. im just saying that the behavior that you experienced is odd, considering thermal throttle being there. i actively disable thermal throttle every single time i boot up. and i try, really try, but have not been able to reach 100C on my n6. and i run my cpu at 3032mhz high and low cpu speed. now my nexus 5 reaches shutdown very easy, it takes seconds to get it there. my n6, no matter how hard i push, purposefully, i can not get it to reach 100C. now your reboot might have been something completely different, and you not reaching thermal shutdown. but i doubt you would have known that, because you would need a live cpu temp in your status bar to see if you hit thermal shutdown. and i doubt you have a cpu temp showing in your status bar. i do
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Well I can't tell you how hot it was getting. But when I played Star Wars Galactic Defender while charging it got really hot, almost too hot to hold. Although I am sure that what I felt was nothing near the boiling point of water, it was enough to make the phone restart.It got hot under the same circumstances with 5.0. Just not that hot. But after the 5.1 update it started getting much hotter. At the time I wouldn't put it on a charger at night because of the crazy heat. After the cache clearing things have been much better. It doesn't even get warm when fast charging.
simms22 said:
youre probably looking at the battery temp. battery temp is different. if your battery hits 60C, youll automatically shut down. everyone i know with a nexus 6 sees over 50C cpu temp rather often. well, depending how hard you are using the cpu, and the temp around you.
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Partly. Through normal operation with stock interactive governor I sit around 40-50 playing music, opening coc, etc. Phone never feels hot in hand.
When I'm idling or reading something or casually scrolling I'm always sitting 35-40 CPU temp.
Obviously if I crank it up and lock to 2.6GHz and run some CPU stresses I quickly get up to 75C :laugh: but that isn't normal operation. Relaxed operation when the CPU is idling should sit pretty low.
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Well I can't tell you how hot it was getting. But when I played Star Wars Galactic Defender while charging it got really hot, almost too hot to hold. Although I am sure that what I felt was nothing near the boiling point of water, it was enough to make the phone restart.It got hot under the same circumstances with 5.0. Just not that hot. But after the 5.1 update it started getting much hotter. At the time I wouldn't put it on a charger at night because of the crazy heat. After the cache clearing things have been much better. It doesn't even get warm when fast charging.
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it probably was something else that made it reboot, being plugged in and gaming. btw, thats the second best way ive found to get the phone really hot, plugged in and gaming
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bbedward said:
Partly. Through normal operation with stock interactive governor I sit around 40-50 playing music, opening coc, etc. Phone never feels hot in hand.
When I'm idling or reading something or casually scrolling I'm always sitting 35-40 CPU temp.
Obviously if I crank it up and lock to 2.6GHz and run some CPU stresses I quickly get up to 75C :laugh: but that isn't normal operation. Relaxed operation when the CPU is idling should sit pretty low.
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using the cpu lightly or it just sitting there wont get it hot at all. listening to music is using the cpu very lightly. if it gets hot just sitting there, then that is a problem. thats usually caused by a process getting "stuck" and the cpu staying a 100% active. so the heat in that situation would be a symptom, but not the problem.

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