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Basically my questions are simple, I tried Googling quite extensively but cannot find a comprehensive answer.
Moto X Motomaker vs the Moto X Developer Edition pro and cons...
Here is what I think I know
Motomaker (MM from this point forward) is how you make it, has 16 and 32gb models and comes with a locked bootloader that must be unlocked to flash a ROM or change the fancy things like battery icons and the framework mods. Must wait for verizon to push updates to you at their own rate.. let me know if i'm wrong..
Developer Edition (DE from this for forward) is only 2 tone black and white and only available in 32gb. Bootloader is unlocked stock, can flash roms, change framework, custom apps, mod and tethering, android updates available whenever Google releases them or just come to XDA and find a leak.
I'm wondering if getting the DE is going to be worth the cost and if i comes BLANK with no Verizon bloat on-board. can i still use active notification and camera gesture etc if i flash a ROM?
I understand that the idea flashing a ROM is to get as close as humanly possible to stock android which it already is.
I'm going to be purchasing tomorrow so if you are all out there a timely response would be awesome!
On a side note I'm getting this phone to replace an S4 thats limping along with Safestrap and a Nexus Launcher.
Who's your carrier? T-mobile and Sprint allow you to unlock your bootloader http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/09/t-mobile-moto-x-added-to-motorola-bootloader-unlock-program/
If you have Verizon or AT&T you'll need to get the dev edition.
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Verizon Wireless..
Dev edition it is
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If you want to run latest versions of android as soon as possible, Developer Edition might not be the ticket. As you can see already, carriers have started to push out kitkat earlier than motorola itself.
Titanoxide said:
Basically my questions are simple, I tried Googling quite extensively but cannot find a comprehensive answer.
Moto X Motomaker vs the Moto X Developer Edition pro and cons...
Here is what I think I know
Motomaker (MM from this point forward) is how you make it, has 16 and 32gb models and comes with a locked bootloader that must be unlocked to flash a ROM or change the fancy things like battery icons and the framework mods. Must wait for verizon to push updates to you at their own rate.. let me know if i'm wrong..
Developer Edition (DE from this for forward) is only 2 tone black and white and only available in 32gb. Bootloader is unlocked stock, can flash roms, change framework, custom apps, mod and tethering, android updates available whenever Google releases them or just come to XDA and find a leak.
I'm wondering if getting the DE is going to be worth the cost and if i comes BLANK with no Verizon bloat on-board. can i still use active notification and camera gesture etc if i flash a ROM?
I understand that the idea flashing a ROM is to get as close as humanly possible to stock android which it already is.
I'm going to be purchasing tomorrow so if you are all out there a timely response would be awesome!
On a side note I'm getting this phone to replace an S4 thats limping along with Safestrap and a Nexus Launcher.
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I'm in the same boat. I think the idea of the Moto X is great especially since it's getting the updates in a timely manner. I wonder though if the Developer Edition would be any different. Just because it's a Developer Edition doesn't mean it's a Google Play Edition meaning it will probably only receive the update when the Moto Maker X gets an update. That being the case (if I'm correct). Should I purchase the Developer Edition over the Motor Maker X. The only thing I would need to do is wifi tether since I am still on unlimited data and use it daily.
I have the Verizon Dev edition, and the only reason why I got it was so that I can unlock it and root it. With Dev editions you can only get white. If you want to unlock and root and are on AT&T or Verizon, then get the Dev edition, otherwise just get the Moto Maker edition.
chuda.pati09 said:
I have the Verizon Dev edition, and the only reason why I got it was so that I can unlock it and root it. With Dev editions you can only get white. If you want to unlock and root and are on AT&T or Verizon, then get the Dev edition, otherwise just get the Moto Maker edition.
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What have you done with your Dev Edition Moto X that you couldn't have done with the Moto Maker Version? And I'm asking what have you done, not what you plan on doing. Given the opportunity to do it all over again would you get the Dev Edition again or would you get a Moto Maker version?
Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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bigmook said:
Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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LoL. Makes it even harder to decide if I want the Dev Edition or the Moto Maker personalized one tomorrow morning.
pablomoca said:
What have you done with your Dev Edition Moto X that you couldn't have done with the Moto Maker Version? And I'm asking what have you done, not what you plan on doing. Given the opportunity to do it all over again would you get the Dev Edition again or would you get a Moto Maker version?
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I have unlocked and rooted my phone, I have installed Xposed and Gravity Box, and Greenify. I also plan on changing the bootloader, but have not found one I liked.
I believe you can root the Moto X without unlocking the bootloader, but from what I understand it is a headache when OTAs come through and there are chances of it bricking the phone. Since I was able to unlock the bootloader, I was able to flash TWRP and flash SU. And I don't have to worry about OTAs screwing up my phone.
But I need to stress this, do not spend the extra money on Dev edition if you are not on Verizon or AT&T, the Moto Xs from Motomaker can be unlocked.
The only added bonus the Dev edition brings is that unlocking it does not void the warranty which is nice because there can be cases which arise when it is a manufacture defect which the warranty would cover and it is nice to have that protection. But if you unlock a non Dev edition, it will void the warranty.
I personally would go with the Dev edition. There is always bound to be something I want to do to it. Plus future proofing
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bigmook said:
Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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I did not unlock the bootloader until last week, which is also when I finally got time to unlock it and root the phone. But the change in warranty policy was a nice push.
I recommend unlocking and rooting your phone, I really missed Greenify and Titanium Backup. It might be a placebo effect or being on break last week I didn't use the phone as I normally do, but Greenify really helped the battery life. I went almost 22 hrs and about 2 hrs of screen time with no recharge couple times, using (Snapchat, Chrome, Reddit News, SMS, Hangouts, Phone, Plume, Maps, CBS Sports) heavily. Hopefully when I go back to normal usage this occurs again.
I should have been thinking about this a lot sooner than tonight. I'm leaning towards the Moto Maker edition for the obvious reasons of the color options. All I need is root the main thing I care about is tethering. And if I'm not mistaken there are apps on the market that will allow me to do that without root. I currently have a rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 3 and the only thing I use root for is tethering.
I went for the developer edition. I think it is worth the money..
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What does the Dev edition offer that the retails does not?
1) a true custom recovery
2) no exploit needed for root
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Perhaps faster upgrade process, flagship product.. Investment in quality products...
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Perhaps faster upgrade process, flagship product.. Investment in quality products...
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Your post doesn't add up...
" Perhaps faster upgrade process" - nope. Same for everyone. I believe motomaker version got it first...
"flagship product" - Motomaker is advertised, Dev edition is not known to all.
"Investment in quality products" - they are both the same phone.
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I'm planning to buy the Moto X today. I live in Asia/Middle East. Will the T-Mobile Off contract version work? Because i want to customize my phone through moto maker. I know LTE most likely most wont work, but my main concern is will it detect any sim and 3g data should work. Thanks for the help in advance.
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I'm planning to buy the Moto X today. I live in Asia/Middle East. Will the T-Mobile Off contract version work? Because i want to customize my phone through moto maker. I know LTE most likely most wont work, but my main concern is will it detect any sim and 3g data should work. Thanks for the help in advance.
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yes t-mobile is sim unlocked and 3g should work.
Hi all,
New to the forum although you have been a great source of information for me many times. I ordered a Moto X for Verizon because I am a google person and I want an Android phone again. Currently I use my work phone (iPhone 5) along with Google Voice for personal use. This works pretty well since its free
Anyway I am hoping the Moto X will work without issues but I am not sure because of a few things:
1) Can I take the nano-SIM and pop it into a Moto X without any issues?
2) Will the fact that the iPhone 5 nano SIM is not NFC be an issue? Or will the the fact that the SIM is connected to a work line be an issue? The
The people at the Verizon were/are useless and didn't want to let me try it. I don't have a Verizon android phone that requires a SIM to try this on. Most friends have an iPhone or dont use Verizon. I am hoping it will all work but I dont want to open the Moto X if I don't have to so I can at least recoup my costs.
Would really appreciate some guidance!!
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Would really appreciate some guidance!!
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Did you ever figure this out?
I'm also looking to explore this option, but from a developer's perspective.
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.
I think a custom Moto X in her favorite color(s) would be awesome for her imo. And you will get LTE to boot. The Moto G doesn't have LTE to my knowledge correct?
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For a young kid a moto g but for your wife a moto x.
I don't think it's any contest on which is the far better phone. I would get the X with the discount code.
That's if she will actually use and enjoy a smartphone. If she's not going to make much use of it, of course the cheaper phone is the way to go - but she'll have a better experience on the Moto X.
My understanding, and granted, this is perhaps based on several week old information, was that the biggest difference between the X and the G was the lack of active notifications in the G. I'd say it depends on just how non techy savvy your wife is ... Personally, I'm eying the G as my mother's next phone, to ease her into a smart phone. If your wife has at least android experience, then would probably be wiser to go the route of the X.
There are a lot of differences between the X and the G. Active notifications is one. The G has no LTE, no always-on listening, no assist modes, less RAM (so it will be more prone to stuttering when lots of applications are running), and a slower CPU/GPU so it won't feel as fast.
I mean, it appears to be a tremendous phone for under $200, and a great phone for anyone looking to start out in the smartphone area, but it's definitely not just a tiny step down from the X.
It would be a close call if not for the discount code. 350 is a steal for the experience of the moto X.
I had the exact problem. I had ordered 2 Moto G's for my daughter and her husband. Then they announced the Promo Sale for the Moto X. I went with the Moto X's and I am completely happy with that decesion. I think your wife will be really impressed the Moto X's extra abilities that no other phone offers. Whatever you decide you will have a great phone.
SemTechie said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.
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I would say the biggest difference by far for a non-techie is the LTE on the X. That alone should decide your choice if your network supports 4g it's a no brainer
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4G. Much better camera. Active notifications. At $350 it's a no-brainer.
SemTechie said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.
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Thanks for all the input. It turns out the G may be my only option. We are on a T-mo prepaid MVNO. The Moto Maker (and the discount) only allow purchases tied to the Big Four. (even with no contract). Has anyone successfully used the T-mo Moto Maker Moto X on a T-mo prepaid MVNO?
I remember putting my wife's old T-mo phone onto the MVNO without unlocking it, but it's a bit of a risk to purchase the X hoping to do that again. And the discount doesn't apply to the Dev edition. Thoughts?
SemTechie said:
Thanks for all the input. It turns out the G may be my only option. We are on a T-mo prepaid MVNO. The Moto Maker (and the discount) only allow purchases tied to the Big Four. (even with no contract). Has anyone successfully used the T-mo Moto Maker Moto X on a T-mo prepaid MVNO?
I remember putting my wife's old T-mo phone onto the MVNO without unlocking it, but it's a bit of a risk to purchase the X hoping to do that again. And the discount doesn't apply to the Dev edition. Thoughts?
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Ya you can its sim-unlocked by default. I bought the tmo motomaker version and use it freely on at&t straight talk. It'll work with a tmo prepaid plan or mvno easily.
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Thanks. Now I may have to cancel my order for the G... Just when I thought Christmas was sewed up.
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If she's a non techie.... Honestly get the g. Then take her out to dinner or buy her another gift that you know shell like.
Most people really dont care about phones and honestly asking a bunch of xda people whar to do is probably pointless.
Moto g is plenty good and if you are on an mvno that doesn't have LTE shell barely care. Or buy her a moto g AND a nexus 7 or an iPad or something.
moto x as a gift
SemTechie said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.
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The perfect gift for your wife... MOTO X.... Ive got one and I love the specs.
First off, sorry if this has been answered but I'm trying to figure out the model # of a Moto X.
Basically I have a T-Mobile HTC One M8 and someone from Craigslist wants to trade my M8 for the Moto X (plus cash of course). He said he bought the X from Motorola's website but I just want to make sure that it supports T-Mobile's 4g/LTE bands to the fullest like how a Nexus 5 does.
It's printed on the back of the phone at the bottom.
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OuncE718 said:
First off, sorry if this has been answered but I'm trying to figure out the model # of a Moto X.
Basically I have a T-Mobile HTC One M8 and someone from Craigslist wants to trade my M8 for the Moto X (plus cash of course). He said he bought the X from Motorola's website but I just want to make sure that it supports T-Mobile's 4g/LTE bands to the fullest like how a Nexus 5 does.
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Boot to the bootloader, then choose "barcodes".. model is displayed, also the Manf. Date, Serial, and IMEI
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Thank both of you guys. I appreciate that none of you were rude and you got straight to the point. Thanks once again
Hey everybody looked around and could not find anything recent. Looking for a fast response here to ill get right to it, I'm planning on getting a new phone. i was looking at the Moto x (2014) version, but i want it to be unlock able or at least rootable. I do not mind paying a couple bucks for a software to unlock or root it just want to know if there is any way it can be done. Thanks!
Then you are on the wrong network. Can't unlock and partial root is 20.00. Get a N6 if you wanna be flash happy on VZW
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yes i realize that but i don't have a choice of what network to be on currently. if i had a choice i would choose t mobile or atat
Can't unlock Moto X VZW and partial root is 20.00. Get a N6 if you wanna be flash happy on VZW.
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