A little birdie told me we are on the verge of Chromecast coming out of 'preview' mode within the week. I have no prior experience with this source, so it's just supposition, but I got to thinking, and it makes sense that the superbowl would be an excellent opportunity to announce the gate is being flung wide open. Might we see a quick/cryptic Chromecast ad during the superbowl?
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A little birdie told me we are on the verge of Chromecast coming out of 'preview' mode within the week. I have no prior experience with this source, so it's just supposition, but I got to thinking, and it makes sense that the superbowl would be an excellent opportunity to announce the gate is being flung wide open. Might we see a quick/cryptic Chromecast ad during the superbowl?
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Given Google's current media push for Chromecast and Google Play, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Superbowl ad. Whether or not that coincides with the SDK release... I hope your birdie flies close to Mountain View.
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Given Google's current media push for Chromecast and Google Play, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Superbowl ad. Whether or not that coincides with the SDK release... I hope your birdie flies close to Mountain View.
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Well, he said CC support would be 'active' in their app next week...either the gate's flung open, or at least a new series of 'approved' apps...we'll see!
Okay..looks like they may have over-stated. They are now going to release their hardware without Chromecast support, and add it later. They couldn't wait, and no one even knows why El Goog is stalling. Still it will be interesting to see if Google/Chromecast is even mentioned during the pre-game or during the bowl.
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Okay..looks like they may have over-stated. They are now going to release their hardware without Chromecast support, and add it later. They couldn't wait, and no one even knows why El Goog is stalling. Still it will be interesting to see if Google/Chromecast is even mentioned during the pre-game or during the bowl.
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So your Birdy is working on a Hardware project not a Software project? Interesting....
I'm betting that Google is not going to do many releases in a onesy twosey "Whenever Ready" manner and will instead wait till there is at least 5-10 ready for release to make for a much bigger/better Announcement.
Better for the App Devs from a Marketing standpoint and better for Google to make it appear like an event.
Just look at what the last announcement did for aVia and Plex!
I expect them to do this at least for the first year before they go to a more normal send an update and new stuff appears in the store.
If your birdy is making Hardware for the CCast I sure hope it is some sort of WiFi Keyboard that can launch a Player App that lets you control the CCast and make it work like an Android stick to launch content without the need for another device.
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So your Birdy is working on a Hardware project not a Software project? Interesting....
I'm betting that Google is not going to do many releases in a onesy twosey "Whenever Ready" manner and will instead wait till there is at least 5-10 ready for release to make for a much bigger/better Announcement.
Better for the App Devs from a Marketing standpoint and better for Google to make it appear like an event.
Just look at what the last announcement did for aVia and Plex!
I expect them to do this at least for the first year before they go to a more normal send an update and new stuff appears in the store.
If your birdy is making Hardware for the CCast I sure hope it is some sort of WiFi Keyboard that can launch a Player App that lets you control the CCast and make it work like an Android stick to launch content without the need for another device.
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Well sorta...the little birdie is from their tweets (get it?) and they make a software package PVR wrapped in a hardware package. As late as last week, they claimed the hardware (and software) would arrive WITH CC support ON LAUNCH. Clearly this wasn't correct. As I didn't watch the Superbowl, have no idea if CC was mentioned...
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Well sorta...the little birdie is from their tweets (get it?) and they make a software package PVR wrapped in a hardware package. As late as last week, they claimed the hardware (and software) would arrive WITH CC support ON LAUNCH. Clearly this wasn't correct. As I didn't watch the Superbowl, have no idea if CC was mentioned...
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Ahhh I see...Sorry didn't mean to sound like I was trying to pry more info out of you was just curious when the Hardware was mentioned.
I didn't watch the SB either (I watched the Walking Dead marathon) and from what I hear the Fish Bowl was more exciting than the Superbowl anyway! LOL
If they said it would be ready for Launch then that means they probably have it working and now it is just a matter of Google Whitelisting which I expect will happen when they have enough new options to make an Event out of it.
PVR does sound interesting...I hope it supports M-Card.
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Ahhh I see...Sorry didn't mean to sound like I was trying to pry more info out of you was just curious when the Hardware was mentioned.
I didn't watch the SB either (I watched the Walking Dead marathon) and from what I hear the Fish Bowl was more exciting than the Superbowl anyway! LOL
If they said it would be ready for Launch then that means they probably have it working and now it is just a matter of Google Whitelisting which I expect will happen when they have enough new options to make an Event out of it.
PVR does sound interesting...I hope it supports M-Card.
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Negative.. There are options with ccard (Channelmaster and others) but most new tech is targeted towards cord-cutters like myself..I only stream and now PVR HD OTA.
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Looks like the gates have opened!
http://chrome.blogspot.com/2014/02/chromecast-is-now-open-to-developers.html
https://developers.google.com/cast/
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Looks like the gates have opened!
http://chrome.blogspot.com/2014/02/chromecast-is-now-open-to-developers.html
https://developers.google.com/cast/
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Hooray! Let's hope the whitelisting is liberal.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...le-cast-sdk-now-part-of-google-play-services/
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Hooray! Let's hope the whitelisting is liberal.
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I don't expect it to go away anytime soon...
But now that the SDK is public there will come a point where it's not manageable to test and approve every app that supports CCast for Whitelisting and the Whitelist will then become a Blacklist.
I think the most interesting thing I read from those links was that the CCast support for DIAL is actually built into the Android Media Router.
And we still wait...can any CC devs update us on what is going on?
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We still cannot develop Chromecast apps for Android until Google releases the Jars and Libs for Google Play Services revision 15. They will release GPS rev. 15 when the Google Play Services 4.2 apk rollout has finished. So there's only documentation so far.
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Confirming....
The 4.2 Google Play service rollout surely takes its time. I haven't yet received it.
Chromecast, or the story of a SDK that never wants to be out since August 2013...
Amusingly, it is available on iOS.
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The revision 15 has been released! ?
Or according to Google+ it is
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What is this sorcery I see before me?
MOLON LABE
Just a heads-up that Bubble updated his BubbleUPnP app for CC support today! Enjoy!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp
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Just a heads-up that Bubble updated his BubbleUPnP app for CC support today! Enjoy!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp
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AND it supports transcoding with BubbleUPnP Server, so it's a potential alternative to Plex.
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of course the iPhone would have a keyboard...who thinks this will happen within the next 10 years (2009-2019) for the iPhone line of phones?
Edit: When I said "of course the iPhone would have a keyboard" I meant that if the iPhone was a slider a phone, than of course I am talking about an iPhone with a qwerty keyboard...not a dial pad....not like an N95 but something more like a Touch Pro
as a follower, they should prepare to have it
i doesnt really matter even if they attach some xtrange keyboard is just one thing i never but never matters to me
No, will not happen
I don't think there will be a slider phone from Apple, simply becaise the designs of the Iphone won't allow sliding extras. The design of the phone was always based on looking solid and out of one piece, like it's the case with the Imac, Iphone and Ipod. I rest my case
Even if they do, it will still be crap. Anyways, I don't believe there will be iPhails in 2019.............
EDIT: It looks like in my blind hatred I forgot to answer the question.
I think it is the next logical step. iPhail users can be easily satisfied, but many people have switched to devices with a physical keyboard. Pre, Xperia, N97 and so forth offer much more flexibility and I will not even mention the endless stream of messaging phones. I bet that crApple will try to tap that market and the only way to do that is to add a keyboard. Advancements in haptics will not compensate for the lack of one.
Haha look at this:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/07/financial-times-confirms-apple-tablet-for-september/
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i doesnt really matter even if they attach some xtrange keyboard is just one thing i never but never matters to me
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Completly agree Paisa!
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Even if they do, it will still be crap. Anyways, I don't believe there will be iPhails in 2019.............
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Same here +1
Iphone will never have a hardware keyboard because they're all abut touch and so on plus the iphone looks boring in design since they all look alike i bet the only difference between the iphones now and the distant future ones will be the thickness.
Yup I dont think so neither
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Yeah!! I also think that it will have a slider phone.
Really
Nope, don't think it will ever happen
The concept of Iphone does not allow additions or protruding parts. Besides, the latest trends indicate shift towards keyless or full qwerty full touch large screen devices and Iphone is already there. They will improve functions and OSX, adding a video call and other gadgety things, but will not add a keyboard in any shape or form. They don't even want an external one used, that's something to ponder.
In 10 years we won't even remember Iphone, we'll have the next best thing - a cellphone inbuilt into our brans with calls made by voice and answered by blinking twice or pulling on the ear. Or better still - we'll genetically modify our future progeny to be born with a cellphone already growing in the brain and attached to the eye, so that any e-mails, txt messages, photos and movies are downloaded and viewed automatically and video calls can be made clicking your tongue
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The concept of Iphone does not allow additions or protruding parts. Besides, the latest trends indicate shift towards keyless or full qwerty full touch large screen devices and Iphone is already there. They will improve functions and OSX, adding a video call and other gadgety things, but will not add a keyboard in any shape or form. They don't even want an external one used, that's something to ponder.
In 10 years we won't even remember Iphone, we'll have the next best thing - a cellphone inbuilt into our brans with calls made by voice and answered by blinking twice or pulling on the ear. Or better still - we'll genetically modify our future progeny to be born with a cellphone already growing in the brain and attached to the eye, so that any e-mails, txt messages, photos and movies are downloaded and viewed automatically and video calls can be made clicking your tongue
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Yeah, and what about the ROM's for our brains
"Hey man, how are you, I just flashed my head with the latest ROM from XDA-Brain developers, now I have 3 eyes "
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Yeah, and what about the ROM's for our brains
"Hey man, how are you, I just flashed my head with the latest ROM from XDA-Brain developers, now I have 3 eyes "
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LOL!
I have an extra arm with that ROM! probably I have not configured in the proper way... I want my extra eye not an arm
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Yeah, and what about the ROM's for our brains
"Hey man, how are you, I just flashed my head with the latest ROM from XDA-Brain developers, now I have 3 eyes "
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Now you are just being silly - STAY AWAY FROM BETA RELEASES!!!!
'Why are you blinking with only one eye?' 'Tomal released a new beta for my brain, I am testing and posting bug report'
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Now you are just being silly - STAY AWAY FROM BETA RELEASES!!!!
'Why are you blinking with only one eye?' 'Tomal released a new beta for my brain, I am testing and posting bug report'
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Thanks Abusalza, the new brain rom is running great.
I think I found a couple of bugs though.......................
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Thanks Abusalza, the new brain rom is running great.
I think I found a couple of bugs though.......................
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minor inconveniences.
back on topic... the IPhone will probably never receive a built in keyboard. but i am sure small external ones will appear eventually with Bluetooth being opened up.
Apple will likely release an overly expensive bluetooth keyboard that the masses will buy because it looks good and works only with the iPhone.
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Apple will likely release an overly expensive bluetooth keyboard that the masses will buy because it looks good and works only with the iPhone.
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EXACTLY.
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Apple will likely release an overly expensive bluetooth keyboard that the masses will buy because it looks good and works only with the iPhone.
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Doubtful , Apple doesn't do accessories, not enough of a profit margin.
They are more likely to come out with a tablet that makes phone calls.
The number of iPhail threads lately is concerning....
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The number of iPhail threads lately is concerning....
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then i bet the fact that XDA-developers.com owns Iphone-developers.com must be really unsettling.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/live-from-apples-iphone-os-4-event/
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Wow, they finally got around to basic functionalities after three years. Functionalities that Symbian and WinMo were doing since forever. Very revolutionary and magical. Color me awed.
Just about the only thing Android needs to do to "catch up" is a better multi-tasking UI. Then again, considering the iPhone OS 4.0 will handle a grand total of seven tasks--as opposed to Android showing the last six apps used--well...
folders!!! haha.
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folders!!! haha.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well atleast there starting to catch up
Steve really outdid himself this time
this is so funny hahaha. they're taking things that phones have already been able to do and making it such a big deal. apple can suck deez nutz.
i can't wait till android os 3.0!!!
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Well atleast there starting to catch up
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They just got wallpapers, maybe OS5 will match Eclair.
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They just got wallpapers, maybe OS5 will match Eclair.
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LOL so true
So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?
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So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?
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Yes, Apple just ripped off a bunch of features from Android, which will undoubtedly drive iSheep sales up.
ohhh! a bunch of stuff that almost every other phone already has... android, winMo, WebOS...
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So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?
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Nope, you're not. However for the masses, this update will be very well received. Yes its ridiculous that they took so long to incorporate multitasking and folder functionality, but better late than never.
I was disappointed that there wasn't any interface change, the icon grids seem archaic. The iBook app will be huge. Overall, I think this is what most people were expecting in terms of a software update. The real big news will be whether a hardware update will accompany OS4 (unibody iPhone would be nice).
For now the Nexus still has an edge but the gap is narrowing
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Nope, you're not. However for the masses, this update will be very well received. Yes its ridiculous that they took so long to incorporate multitasking and folder functionality, but better late than never.
I was disappointed that there wasn't any interface change, the icon grids seem archaic. The iBook app will be huge. Overall, I think this is what most people were expecting in terms of a software update. The real big news will be whether a hardware update will accompany OS4 (unibody iPhone would be nice).
For now the Nexus still has an edge but the gap is narrowing
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Yeah. I was thinking of the big things they could do on the hardware side, but I'm not entirely sure they want to split their market up. People are still using the iPhone 3G, if they do a massive upgrade on hardware, app developers will have to verify it works on 3 different platforms.
Maybe they are just planning on phasing out the 3G completely by next year (considering they were hinting at the lesser features for 3G's OS4), and then using the current 3GS as minimum spec. If they increase screen resolution, they'll have to write some scaling processes as well (a lot can be seen in the iPad)
They dropped the bomb until they put this dud out.
I own a bunch of Apple devices and Ive had an iPhone before. Im not a hater, I just dont think it's cutting edge anymore. I even have an iPad so you can't say Im an apple hater
Is just another iPhone... but still Google needs to get their act together in a few areas. I borrowed a N1 for few days and like it very much, but I have been reluctant to take the plunge because of the following shortcomings:
Google needs to allow Contacts, Tasks and Notes to sync to the N1 (locally and remotely) using Google apps. It also needs to either enhance the Calendar application or make it play nice with Outlook desktop calendar functions. Me and whole bunch of other people I know, are very comfortable with Outlook to manage their email, time, contacts and tasks. Help us migrate to Android and to the Google apps without so much fuzz. Don't leave it to third parties. I don't want to risk my critical data to a vendor that is here today, but might not be here tomorrow. I'm not very happy leaving all my critical data in the cloud, but if I'm going to do it... Google needs to help me get there. Security and the integrity of my data are important. I have confidence in Google, but not on third party vendors for this critical step.
The Music Player needs enhancement and a Google desktop application to manage one's Music Library and multiple playlist is needed. Most decent portable DAP have such application. Maybe Google can partner or acquire a vendor that knows how to do this right.
Just like the new iPhone the inbox of Android needs to be bit more friendly with other email service providers. As with the new IPhone OS 4, multiple Exchange servers should be supported along with the option to have multiple and merged inboxes.
I wonder if others feel the same way. I also know that there are other issues that need to be addressed, but in my case the top two are very important.
The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
Also, tamanaco, I believe Sense does most of what you said. Don't believe the Nexus is a very friendly business device...
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Yeah. I was thinking of the big things they could do on the hardware side, but I'm not entirely sure they want to split their market up. People are still using the iPhone 3G, if they do a massive upgrade on hardware, app developers will have to verify it works on 3 different platforms.
Maybe they are just planning on phasing out the 3G completely by next year (considering they were hinting at the lesser features for 3G's OS4), and then using the current 3GS as minimum spec. If they increase screen resolution, they'll have to write some scaling processes as well (a lot can be seen in the iPad)
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I agree with you in that there's no need for them to boost their specs at this point, but I was referring more to a cosmetic facelift. The iPhone has pretty much looked the same for 3 years now and I think even Apple fanboys can agree that everyone is tired of the design.
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The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
Also, tamanaco, I believe Sense does most of what you said. Don't believe the Nexus is a very friendly business device...
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So, if I understand you correctly... The N1 is "not" a Music Player... is "not" meant for business... and as you say is "not" for me. So, in your book it's only good to make calls and find yourself on a map? It's called a "Superphone"... What's else is it good for?
SubyWill said:
this is so funny hahaha. they're taking things that phones have already been able to do and making it such a big deal. apple can suck deez nutz.
i can't wait till android os 3.0!!!
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I just pray for it to include VPN, proxy settings, full Exchange support (including tasks), WPA-Enterprise...
But I'm guessing it won't.
Eclair~ said:
The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
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This is not an excuse IMO, the music player definitely needs an update. This is the one area where iPhone has a real advantage over Android. Most users would rather carry one device for everyday use, I know I certainly would.
I know its forbidden as far as asking for ETAs, but does anyone have any insight or guesses when Google is going to release the new SDK and lift the restrictions? I mean are they totally redoing the SDK or are they just tweaking some stuff. Well better yet do we know if google is even going to go further with the chromecast, or abandon it basically like the Nexus Q. Just wondering peoples thoughts....hopefully someone can give us some kind of a hint.
Thanks
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I know its forbidden as far as asking for ETAs, but does anyone have any insight or guesses when Google is going to release the new SDK and lift the restrictions? I mean are they totally redoing the SDK or are they just tweaking some stuff. Well better yet do we know if google is even going to go further with the chromecast, or abandon it basically like the Nexus Q. Just wondering peoples thoughts....hopefully someone can give us some kind of a hint.
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I'm sure they'll release it when its done, why would you think they would abandon it? It just came out and is a huge success.
Getting a little scared that they'll never release it
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Getting a little scared that they'll never release it
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The thing just came out!
Not even everyone who ordered it yet has gotten it.
They have a preview SDK up and running lol.
No reason to freak out.
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Getting a little scared that they'll never release it
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Well I am a tad worried also I think about; reader, wave, nexus q, what does rhe chromecast mean for google tv? Google is a great company and has an abudance of irons in the fire; glass the autonamous car, etc...
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The thing just came out!
Not even everyone who ordered it yet has gotten it.
They have a preview SDK up and running lol.
No reason to freak out.
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Well I am a tad worried also I think about; reader, wave, nexus q, what does rhe chromecast mean for google tv? Google is a great company and has an abudance of irons in the fire; glass the autonamous car, etc...
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Reader's server costs didn't outweigh the money they made from ads.
wave still exists, just not worked on by google.
the other device in the list (nexus q) was canned before it was released. It only had a few more features than a chromecast but was $400. They canceled it because no one was going to buy it.
THis device has been a huge success and google could barley keep up with sales.
mine just came in the mail today and i ordered it on 7/25/13
I am also a tad disappointed....
4 weeks in and we have seen nothing as to new app's.
With these things selling like hotcakes and being sold out everywhere, I would have thought that we would have seen something by now.
If Netflix and Google tv/movies work, what could possibly be holding up the likes of Hulu/HBO/Showtime etc?
Legobricke said:
I am also a tad disappointed....
4 weeks in and we have seen nothing as to new app's.
With these things selling like hotcakes and being sold out everywhere, I would have thought that we would have seen something by now.
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It's not really possible given only a preview sdk.
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It's not really possible given only a preview sdk.
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Understandable...
But one would assume that if they have Netflix up and running, they could partner and get other up and running...
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Understandable...
But one would assume that if they have Netflix up and running, they could partner and get other up and running...
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I think they knew Netflix had to work in order to sell it. By only having to deal with one partner, they can work with them to modify the SDK pretty easily. The whole thing seems to be a beta test at this point. Once they feel it is ready, they will push it out to everyone else.
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I think they knew Netflix had to work in order to sell it. By only having to deal with one partner, they can work with them to modify the SDK pretty easily. The whole thing seems to be a beta test at this point. Once they feel it is ready, they will push it out to everyone else.
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My body is ready
IamPro said:
Getting a little scared that they'll never release it
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The strategy may be to release it once more devices are in the pipeline. No need to anger those waiting to get theirs even more.
Does anyone have an estimate of how many they have sold?
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Does anyone have an estimate of how many they have sold?
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Leo LePorte on Twit reported that Amazon sold 700,000 of them. On the first day.
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Does anyone have an estimate of how many they have sold?
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no not in total but the fact that google had to cancel the netflix offer in just a few hours or so means they sold well. Google even said it was "due to overwhelming demand."
Also the fact that places were running out of stock so fast means demand was higher than supply and if you know anything about economics you know that means its doing very well. (well because its something mass produced and intent on selling, i guess that rule wouldn't nessessarly count for some rare item)
heck some guy told me he bought 3 and sold them on craglist or something like that for like $75 each I think and he kept the netflix codes.
I can't believe you guys are already freaking out google is going to abandoned it before the final sdk is out.
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Well I am a tad worried also I think about; reader, wave, nexus q, what does rhe chromecast mean for google tv? Google is a great company and has an abudance of irons in the fire; glass the autonamous car, etc...
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Uh-oh. Is there a chance that Google may cancel Android too? Better get an iPhone! [/Sarcasm]
golden_35 said:
Uh-oh. Is there a chance that Google may cancel Android too? Better get an iPhone! [/Sarcasm]
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Heck I went ahead and started searching with bing just in case!
Honestly at this point even if google, amazon and samsung all stopped supporting and using android it wouldn't die.
Android is pretty much here to stay for the foreseeable future.
Well I bet they are mass producing them now...its a no brainer at $35 and also at the perfect price of being an "impulse buy" my god its better than a droid 1 phone minus the screen amoung a few other things.
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Hey all,
Per the Google IO announcement this week, it sounds like there's a beta apk floating around that will support native chromecast mirroring from Android 4.4.x devices.
Does anyone have a link to share so we can check it out?
Thanks!
amenic said:
Hey all,
Per the Google IO announcement this week, it sounds like there's a beta apk floating around that will support native chromecast mirroring from Android 4.4.x devices.
Does anyone have a link to share so we can check it out?
Thanks!
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For bringing attention to this, here: "you da real mvp"
Its on the Play store, but need a Android TV device to download it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.mediashell
Lets hope it gets leaked by a ADT-1 box tester.
http://www.geek.com/android/heres-googles-android-tv-developer-kit-the-adt-1-1597864/
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Its on the Play store, but need a Android TV device to download it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.mediashell
Lets hope it gets leaked by a ADT-1 box tester.
http://www.geek.com/android/heres-googles-android-tv-developer-kit-the-adt-1-1597864/
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I don't think that's what OP is looking for.
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I don't think that's what OP is looking for.
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So what is the OP looking for, now I'm curious. I saw during the I/O presentation them using an updated Chromecast app for Android to initiate mirroring so what's the deal. They said it was hardware dependent and required updated google play services and these forums said the mirroring app has to be whitelisted. I'm still unclear about whether other devices will work that weren't listed during the presentation.
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So what is the OP looking for, now I'm curious. I saw during the I/O presentation them using an updated Chromecast app for Android to initiate mirroring so what's the deal. They said it was hardware dependent and required updated google play services and these forums said the mirroring app has to be whitelisted. I'm still unclear about whether other devices will work that weren't listed during the presentation.
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How it essentially breaks down is this...
"Brute force" things and send a series of stills. This in theory should work on any Android device with the necessary Google Play Services framework to communicate with Chromecast, but performance will be highly dependent on CPU speed. This is similar to how simple VNC works, without the control part, and I believe this is what mirror4cast does.
Use system-level hooks to "patch into" the display pipeline - this should be more efficient than screen-scraping and should allow for better performance, especially paired with an intelligent client-end that can just update changes, rather than the whole screen. I believe Koush's mirror app does this. This is similar to how Remote Desktop works for Windows. Google probably is doing this.
Use hardware acceleration to offload compression from the CPU, providing both much better performance and less latency. This is similar to how intelligent players like MX Player use hardware-optimized codecs, though they use them for decoding, whereas mirroring would require encoding. I believe Koush's mirror app does this also. Google might/should be doing this.
Use some magic kernel-exposed functionality to offload compression from the CPU. Google might/should be doing this.
Ideally you'd do 2, 3 and 4 for the best optimization, they key point being to get the best mirroring experience you want to load the CPU the least, otherwise the overall UI experience becomes choppy, not to mention the mirroring itself.
But of course 3 and 4 constrain your supported hardware.
Miracast works on more devices because it's less constrained by overall network latency and stuff since it's WiFi Direct rather than going through an AP. Google's new "don't have to be on the same WiFi network" feature may use the same concept.
In fact, one of my Chromecasts once got into a mode where it was both broadcasting its own SSID and connected to its configured network - in other words, it was being both a WiFi AP and a client simultaneously. I don't know how or why it happened, but it was pretty cool (yes, I did test connectivity from both sides, and it seemed to work). Never got it to happen after that one time though.
As for devices that weren't mentioned... Likely they'll test/qualify other devices as time goes on, but I wouldn't hold my breath on older devices as they likely lack the required CPU power and/or hardware acceleration that is necessary.
The Chromecast app would be added to the whitelist and I suspect the ability to trigger the mirroring will either be determined by the Play Services framework or the mirroring app if it stays a separate app.
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So what is the OP looking for, now I'm curious. I saw during the I/O presentation them using an updated Chromecast app for Android to initiate mirroring so what's the deal. They said it was hardware dependent and required updated google play services and these forums said the mirroring app has to be whitelisted. I'm still unclear about whether other devices will work that weren't listed during the presentation.
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Well the guy gave OP an app related to Android TV devices. But that's not what OP wanted. OP thinks mirroring is just an .apk away on his phone, it doesn't seem to be quite that simple. From the I/O announcement, it seems like there needs to be some kind of hardware acceleration going on that isn't available to all phones. Besides, what that other guy linked is a *receiver* not a mirrorer.
Hmm, I'm on stock rooted 4.4.4 and today when I was at my gf's house(she has a Chromecast), I noticed a "cast screen" toggle in my quick settings. Is that what the OP is looking for? If so, I think it'll just be rolling out slowly with the Chromecast app.
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Hmm, I'm on stock rooted 4.4.4 and today when I was at my gf's house(she has a Chromecast), I noticed a "cast screen" toggle in my quick settings. Is that what the OP is looking for? If so, I think it'll just be rolling out slowly with the Chromecast app.
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No. That's always there.
m52 power! said:
No. That's always there.
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It's not there right now, since I don't have a Chromecast at home.
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DirgeExtinction said:
It's not there right now, since I don't have a Chromecast at home.
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Have you tried clicking on it at your gilrfriends place and see what it does?
Now live!!!, great news http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...elect-devices-running-kitkat-4-4-1-or-higher/
Can someone post the updated 1.7 APK? I want to see if it will work (unofficially, of course) with my Note 2.
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Now live!!!, great news http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...elect-devices-running-kitkat-4-4-1-or-higher/
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Yes! This is what I'm looking for! However, I'm on an HTC One M8 (AT&T) and I don't see it on the supported devices list
Is there a work around / mod to be able to make it work on my handset anyone know?
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Yes! This is what I'm looking for! However, I'm on an HTC One M8 (AT&T) and I don't see it on the supported devices list
Is there a work around / mod to be able to make it work on my handset anyone know?
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Ya that's crazy. Why M7 and not M8?
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"Look out for the 1.7 update of the Chromecast app on Google Play store to use this new feature"
Can someone please post the Chromecast 1.7 apk?
bungadudu said:
"Look out for the 1.7 update of the Chromecast app on Google Play store to use this new feature"
Can someone please post the Chromecast 1.7 apk?
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729 posts and you ask this question which other have asked too? Why dont you read the thread?
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729 posts and you ask this question which other have asked too? Why dont you read the thread?
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Where are you getting 729? I have the same question. If anyone has the update and can pull the apk that would be great.
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"Look out for the 1.7 update of the Chromecast app on Google Play store to use this new feature"
Can someone please post the Chromecast 1.7 apk?
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Just to note, it works natively on Nexus devices, but you will require 1.7 update for other devices.
V 1.7.4 - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-cfBPq-H-Vramk2ZXBxYWRxbVk/preview
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Hooray!
I'll probably get a lot of hate for this, but after 10 years of being an avid Android fan and supporter, I have moved back to iOS and the iPhone 14 Pro Max.
All I can say is I don't regret it one bit. I was the first to make fun of iPhone users in the past, but Apple have made such strides, it's a real pleasure to be back. Yes Apple wait years to implement features that have been available on Android for ages and call it new and revolutionary, but what they do, they do better than anyone else. The biggest thing is just the cohesiveness between the hardware and software. Everything works flawlessly together and the user interface looks great.
What has annoyed me with Android are things like manufacturers not having their own email or messaging apps. You're forced to download a third party app which never really feels in tune with the particular phone/skin/version of Android. And yes you can say the Gmail app is the stock Android email app, but not everyone is a fan, including me. I know it's probably unavoidable due to nature of AOSP, but still, there is a clear divide between the hardware and software for the most part compared to iOS.
The other thing that stopped me using (and mocking) iOS is the fact that a lot of things were a pain in the backside to do and the general incompatibility with a lot of platforms. That seems to have changed as well as I had no issues connecting directly to my NAS drive and Windows PC to access all my files, either while on the same LAN or through 5G when I'm not at home. Youtube Vanced (now ReVanced) was another big thing, but you have options in iOS for that as well.
App tracking was another reason I made the switch. You can simply disable app tracking for all apps with one toggle and all newly installed apps will abide by this as well. Yes, no one really knows if it stops all tracking in its entirety, but it's an option that is not available in Android. You can use a third party app like Blokada to achieve the same result, but you cannot run a VPN service at the same time. Now I can run my VPN service and have app tracking blocked at the same time. Not to mention battery life. I am not a super heavy user, but I get three days out of a single charge with 20% battery left. Even with heavy use, you will struggle to kill this thing's battery in a day as you get 10-14 hours of screen on time depending on how you use it. Standby drain is also nonexistent, the bane of so many Android users' lives, mine included. The cameras and especially video recording is also top notch. Possibly a little boring compared to some of the features you get in Android, but as an everyday point and shoot device, it's hard to beat.
Notifications is the one thing where I would say I still prefer the way it's done in Android, but with everything else working so well I can forgive that. Price is another drawback as Apple charge ridiculous amounts for their hardware, so this is the only time in 10 years where I will keep the same phone for more than a year.
I will still keep my Pixel and have it as a backup phone, but for now I am super happy I made the switch. And I will understand it if not many of you agree.
Biggenz said:
And I will understand it if not many of you agree.
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It's not about whether we agree, but whether we care. We don't.
Good luck and let us know when you return....
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Good luck and let us know when you return....
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Biggenz said:
I'll probably get a lot of hate for this, but after 10 years of being an avid Android fan and supporter, I have moved back to iOS and the iPhone 14 Pro Max.
All I can say is I don't regret it one bit. I was the first to make fun of iPhone users in the past, but Apple have made such strides, it's a real pleasure to be back. Yes Apple wait years to implement features that have been available on Android for ages and call it new and revolutionary, but what they do, they do better than anyone else. The biggest thing is just the cohesiveness between the hardware and software. Everything works flawlessly together and the user interface looks great.
What has annoyed me with Android are things like manufacturers not having their own email or messaging apps. You're forced to download a third party app which never really feels in tune with the particular phone/skin/version of Android. And yes you can say the Gmail app is the stock Android email app, but not everyone is a fan, including me. I know it's probably unavoidable due to nature of AOSP, but still, there is a clear divide between the hardware and software for the most part compared to iOS.
The other thing that stopped me using (and mocking) iOS is the fact that a lot of things were a pain in the backside to do and the general incompatibility with a lot of platforms. That seems to have changed as well as I had no issues connecting directly to my NAS drive and Windows PC to access all my files, either while on the same LAN or through 5G when I'm not at home. Youtube Vanced (now ReVanced) was another big thing, but you have options in iOS for that as well.
App tracking was another reason I made the switch. You can simply disable app tracking for all apps with one toggle and all newly installed apps will abide by this as well. Yes, no one really knows if it stops all tracking in its entirety, but it's an option that is not available in Android. You can use a third party app like Blokada to achieve the same result, but you cannot run a VPN service at the same time. Now I can run my VPN service and have app tracking blocked at the same time. Not to mention battery life. I am not a super heavy user, but I get three days out of a single charge with 20% battery left. Even with heavy use, you will struggle to kill this thing's battery in a day as you get 10-14 hours of screen on time depending on how you use it. Standby drain is also nonexistent, the bane of so many Android users' lives, mine included. The cameras and especially video recording is also top notch. Possibly a little boring compared to some of the features you get in Android, but as an everyday point and shoot device, it's hard to beat.
Notifications is the one thing where I would say I still prefer the way it's done in Android, but with everything else working so well I can forgive that. Price is another drawback as Apple charge ridiculous amounts for their hardware, so this is the only time in 10 years where I will keep the same phone for more than a year.
I will still keep my Pixel and have it as a backup phone, but for now I am super happy I made the switch. And I will understand it if not many of you agree.
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Most sincere condolences
I agree with you. System IOS showed myself very good thought last years. I think that IOS more stability than Android OS thought it has not so great functionality.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It's not about whether we agree, but whether we care. We don't.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It's not about whether we agree, but whether we care. We don't.
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Actually, that's a rather self-indulgent/pompous comment to assume that "we" don't care. "You" might not care but I'm glad to hear about the experiences of people that have had both Android and Apple products. I've had Windows mobile phones and am now going on my 4th or 5th Android device, but I've never had an Apple product. I'm very much interested in the point of view of somebody that has lived with both products.
TravisBean said:
*useless drivel snipped"
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Please. At the time this thread was originally posted it was in the Pixel 6 forums...an Android phone. The only reason they made that post was to grab the spotlight. And you fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Please. At the time this thread was originally posted it was in the Pixel 6 forums...an Android phone. The only reason they made that post was to grab the spotlight. And you fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.
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You're the one with Apple on your face
iPhone 14 Pro Max? are you sure?))
Android is just far better than iOS at this stage, it might be cohesive and all but honestly it still sucks
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The good thing about Android for me is F-Droid.
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And the ability to install any apk.
I promised myself that I would never use IOS. Android is enough for me and for now, I will stick to this position, but maybe someday I will change my mind just like you.