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Flashed ROM = Faulty Motherboard

My HTC Diamond is currently with HTC Repair Centre - UK as I was having some LCD issues.
I have requested on many occasions the engineers diagnosis report detailing where the fault is, which they don't seem to be able to provide.
HTC have come back with the following:
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The customer flashed this device with some third party illegal software that is why the mainboard needs to be replaced.
The mainbord is damaged.
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I did flash the device as i was having problems with the LCD. The ROM used was tlr-diamond-1.08.06.20
Can someone confirm if flashing the ROM would cause the motherboard to become faulty??
Has anyone got any suggestions on this?
HTC are trying to charge me £238 to repair the Diamond, which I can not afford to pay after buying the product for £420 when it was first released in June 2008.
All comments welcome.
Jaz

no, they just don't want to pay to replace it, and you voided your warranty by flashing it. you should have flashed it back to stock before sending it to them... at this point though, you have voided their warranty, so they're going to use whatever they can to get out of repairing a device for free.

Tell them to give you the phone back I guess?

Yeah, I am going to ask for the device back.
I was going to flash the device back to the original stock ROM but was unable to gain access to the device to complete the task!
Oh bummer. That is £420 down the drain.....

[Q] WHY can't the Nexus One bootloader be re-locked?

I understand that currently it cannot be relocked on it has been unlocked. But I would like to know why if anyone knows?
Would it be possible in the future?
And is there anyone working on this now?

There is no real reason to want to work on figuring it out.
The only reason would be to cheat on your warranty. And HTC is actually honoring all the hardware related warranty cases.
So no good reason to re-lock, and thus no real reason for devs to work hard on figuring it out.

Mine can be
Obviously that doesn't help you much though. To be able to lock it again, you need to know how to set S-OFF, which is something that (as it stands) can't be done.

Just wondering but if HTC honors the warranty on a phone with unlocked bootloader, why do the 2 different guides to rooting say one will void warranty (unlocking bootloader) and one will preserve the warranty (the one-click app)?

By law HTC can refuse to support but they are supporting for some strange reason. The disclaimers are there to warn that HTC could stop supporting at any time if they see unlocked bootloaders.

I think re-locking the bootloader is quite possible... the only problem at this point is... we don't know how... it could be a software or hardware hook, but ATM, no one knows...
And I don't believe anyone is eagerly trying to find this since HTC seems to be honouring hardware warranty even with unlocked bootloaders...

It is the price of doing business
Once the boot-loader is unlocked you can do things to your phone like over-clock the cpu or run the flash at super-bright for hours. In other words, you can do things that could damage your phone that would not be HTC's fault ... therefore they shouldn't be held liable.
So instead of just locking the phone down like most of the phones out there, HTC/Google give you a choice: Stay stock or unlock with one command. If you choose to unlock they they don't have to honour their warranty because you could be doing bad things to your phone.
The fact that they give us the choice is one of the reasons I bought this phone. The fact that they are honouring the warranties even when you unlock is extra nice of them.
Long story short: Unlocking is a sign that you've been messing with your phone and that is all it is. It is irreversible by design and there is no reason to reverse it.

It is not irreversable by design, HTC can do it.
Besides, unlocking the bootloader is not a pre-requiste to any of the things you listed above anymore (aside from FRG33 users, anyway).

Rusty! said:
It is not irreversable by design, HTC can do it.
Besides, unlocking the bootloader is not a pre-requiste to any of the things you listed above anymore (aside from FRG33 users, anyway).
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My money is on a special hardware device that HTC uses that force-flashes the entire rom on the phone. With out the special hardware, I am betting there is no way to do it.
But like others said, who cares. There is no point in putting effort in to something so irrelevant.

That's what I assumed, 'til I noticed my phone was S-OFF after being repaired.

Looks like something along those lines, just got my device back yesterday from having the power button fixed and its locked again. now that we have one click root i can now load CM6 without unlocking it again.

Clarkster said:
...The only reason would be to cheat on your warranty. And HTC is actually honoring all the hardware related warranty cases...
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They aren't honouring it for me, my mic and speaker have ceased to work, and they have flat out refused to even deal with me, because I have an unlocked bootloader

Yeah thee only reason would be to cheat my warranty. but im glad to here that HTC has been honoring a lot of your guy's warranty's anyways.
To be honest a lot of manufactures dont fix the product, they just give you a new one anyways. so they made not even notice. right now im having a hardware issue with the trackball (i bought it on eBay :[ ) and i want to send it in but idk if i should??

mezhopking said:
They aren't honouring it for me, my mic and speaker have ceased to work, and they have flat out refused to even deal with me, because I have an unlocked bootloader
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Sorry to hear, for me it never came up as a question. With you, since both are broken they probably assumed it was caused by software and wrote you off.
I would say keep trying they should be at least let you send it in, and then let you know if it truly is out of your warranty and give you a price to fix.

New phone :d
Called HTC and got some of the best customer service of my life. Told them my trackball wasnt working properly anymore and they are sending me a brand new phone with next day shipping. Never asked once about it being unlocked.
So it seems as you guys are right, as long as it isnt an issue that could be caused my unlocking and messing with you phone they will still honor your warranty.
BEST THING THO...I get to keep the battery, and i bought my phone used for 450 and now im getting a brand new phone

Just so you know OP. I unlocked my Boot loader, but my phone had hardware problems. So I called them, they said they would send out a replacement, next day I cancelled it for reasons I am not going to get into detail over. Well they replacement arrived and my card hold was realized, so I got two nexus's Think I am going to call them and still send the bad one back anyways though.
Moral HTC is has superb warranty!

Swapping out N1 for new one... question...

Recently my heaphone jack started malfunctioning so I called HTC and they said they would send me a replacement and as long as mine did not have any damage that was out of warranty, it would (basically) be free of charge. My phone should not have any physical damage that is out of warranty but I am wondering if, when they turn it on and see that it has been rooted, if that will fall under non-warranty damage.
Basically, i am about to return my phone for a new one, and am wondering if I should revert the phone back to stock and attempt to re-lock the bootloader or if it would even matter considering the problem I have is with the hardware?

You can't re-lock the bootloader but you can revert to stock. This guide should do the job.

Okay, thanks. I thought I had seen a thread about re-locking the bootloader at some point but I guess it must have been a work in progress or something. Plus, even though I searched before, I searched different terms after posting this and saw that a lot of people have returned their unlocked N1's and had no additional charges, as long as they reverted back to stock. So I guess that's what I will do. Really impressed with HTC's customer service!

[Q] Battery driver and charging port burned

Hi,
Last week my Optimus 2x was a bit unlucky. It burned charging port.
Everything will be fine but I had Django Manouche ROM.
Ofcourse my first though was to change rom for orginal one and then send it to LG for repair. Unlucky computer connection port is same that just burned.
So without thinking, I send it to LG Poland. After few days I got negative answer - Rom was changed so they wont repair.
Nowadays I'm arguing with them to get explanation, how its possible that USB charger that i used is still working, phone is working (if it have battery juice) and they are saying they won't repair it because of ROM change.
Is anyone here know, is it possible that drivers from kernel burned my charging port ?
Maybe its bigger problem and not only mine phone can have this issue ?
I looked in this file: "https://github.com/CyanogenMod/lge-kernel-star/blob/jellybean/drivers/power/su660_battery.c" (My acc dont have 10 post so link is like this). Obviously its reposible for battery but i think many ppl is using it in his kernels (probably even LG) and it should work.
Best regards
Cameleeck
PS. I asked LG for answer which exactly file could destroy my device. I will be reporting what they answered.

LoL, blame yourself. If you agree to use a non manufacturer aproved software, he has no obligation to provide you with any warranty. Whatever the cause of problem may be, service guys cannot even diagnose the phone as custom rom is there and they have no obligation to clean your rom mess, as it is wasted unpaid labour time for them. Don't you understand that each kernel mods can cause some sort of hang up with resulting endless charging without temp thresholds? Let us just be fair, everything has its own risks. Just pay the repair fee. For this old model those are just couple drinks at bar and with preserved nerves and time.
So let us call it death at frontlines...
Sent from my HTC One SV using xda premium

I understand risk that i took. Well it can happen, actually i wanted to change this phone But still there can be tons of ppl using some kind of soft that can be risky - as a developer i want to provide some help for a guys that still can have wrong software. So thats why im asking about help and about drivers.
And if we talk about expenses:
Let us just be fair, everything has its own risks. Just pay the repair fee. For this old model those are just couple drinks at bar and with preserved nerves and time.
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They said they can repair it at cost about 200 euro - so probably this price is much bigger than couple of drinks in bar
Still, my questions didnt change.
If someone had this kind of issues or just made some tweaks in battery managment/charging in Android that can explain or even make direction where to look please left here some response.
Then maybe I will apologize to C++ and can make some patch for kernel or even better: maybe there is someone that can make it on his own.

Guaranty says that changing soft voids it, so nothing will help there.
Mam do zaoferowania LG 2X, bo obecnie mam dwa

Actually you're wrong.
Rooting and flashing does NOT void your warranty - at least for us lucky EU citiziens.
http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html
So if you're still under warranty tell LG that you demand a repair on warranty and won't accept a fine.
Apart from that: Yes, if you mess with your kernel you can hardbrick your device. Frying a port is possible e.g. playing with the voltages.

tonyp said:
Actually you're wrong.
Rooting and flashing does NOT void your warranty - at least for us lucky EU citiziens.
http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html
So if you're still under warranty tell LG that you demand a repair on warranty and won't accept a fine.
Apart from that: Yes, if you mess with your kernel you can hardbrick your device. Frying a port is possible e.g. playing with the voltages.
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Tony, do you ever sleep?
But you are a bit wrong here . You are forgetting about the other dark side ehrm...
For example... ... You will find warranty rules for this on each manufacturer site somewhere and for some phones in the brochure and book that came with phone inside the box, that covers up warranty rules and by buying the device you even sign those evil papers with the small font print on it...
We are not that strict about rooting, although with that you can also load some sort of dumb overclocking modules and screw the whole voltage table via insmod and burn the device, ain't it? There for I was always strict about fast charge and similar mods, too much risks involved, and the end users don't really understand them and here is a fine example and result of it.
So you are missing the point mates. Warranty repair... Altering the rom brings really pain for service guys. How do you imagine we are repairing them? Do you ever imagined what for is that hidden service menu? If a custom rom is present, that APK is thrown out, we have no manufacturer support and instruments to find out what on earth happened to the board and do basic diagnosis. SWAP the board? Are you nuts? Afterwards the board is shipped to motherland and they test them via their own secret birth cradle - jtag as they diagnose and refurbish them. Then they will see that those dumbarses didn't even test the phone as alien OS is present there and the service location will be fined with full swap price as a punishment as we didn't obey the contract.
For example HTC or Sony involves online logging system for each phone, where basic parameters are sent and self test data. If bootloader or OS is tampered we cannot do anything, none of manufacturer self test calibration program tools work as in hell custom OS doesn't provide compatibility with that!
So in the service location are mere contract people(although Polish, the second worst service locations in EU, the worst is Romania, although in Regenersis as far I know mostly romanians are being enslav... excuse me labored , god they have such poor repair quality since ages).
But leaving that aside, service location clean out the mess made by greedy manufacturers and egoistic users, we are not the manufacturer, imagine all the device mess around and for one guy to know how to unroot, change bootloader seek for nvflashes etc stuff... nope... noone does it, we need to feed our families too and the repair queues are long enough too, the stupid peace of plastic ain't worth it it consumes so much time and other people are waiting for the repair too. There for You were fined with motherboard replacement price... although 200$... ok those are two evenings in a bar...
So if you alter the OS/root, we cannot repair the damn phone, for example a silly broken touch screen. You just replace the darn thing and that's it, that is my software etc, well then who will calibrate that thing? Call the mojo battery calibration app, yes? LoL? Again flash stock OS? Oh crap wrong bootloader, oh crap version mismatch? What on earth the user flashed in, oh good it was found on some native china forums :cyclops:
So none of service locations will argue about power users who can clean up their mess and bring a reflashed clean device, no matter what you did before the device, the user has respect for our work and time and is willing to make the repair faster. But this isn't the case as USB is burned out.
And to this case specifically... yes you are busted, worst case scenario. If you won't pay and will argue, ok then the independent expertise will be needed = 100$. Then you must go to court, although the expert can also tell that it is your fault and then you are busted again.
But if the expert is dumb enough, then in the court what will the lawyers say... just what Tony did... playing with voltages can burn your phone just like a lousy screaming witch on a stick. And you signed those vicious papers, and you also knew about the risks just as in HTC site is stated word by word. Pay the expertise and court costs . [That happens always, default scenario]
I guess I made clear my point of view why altering the software voids your warranty, as it simply becomes irreparable brick in most cases.
About that fsfe.org... bull*** every argument there can be overthrown, believe me, I know, they have the common sense sentence there, it gives a lot of freedom

Ferrum Master said:
Tony, do you ever sleep?
But you are a bit wrong here . You are forgetting about the other dark side ehrm...
For example... ... You will find warranty rules for this on each manufacturer site somewhere and for some phones in the brochure and book that came with phone inside the box, that covers up warranty rules and by buying the device you even sign those evil papers with the small font print on it...
We are not that strict about rooting, although with that you can also load some sort of dumb overclocking modules and screw the whole voltage table via insmod and burn the device, ain't it? There for I was always strict about fast charge and similar mods, too much risks involved, and the end users don't really understand them and here is a fine example and result of it.
So you are missing the point mates. Warranty repair... Altering the rom brings really pain for service guys. How do you imagine we are repairing them? Do you ever imagined what for is that hidden service menu? If a custom rom is present, that APK is thrown out, we have no manufacturer support and instruments to find out what on earth happened to the board and do basic diagnosis. SWAP the board? Are you nuts? Afterwards the board is shipped to motherland and they test them via their own secret birth cradle - jtag as they diagnose and refurbish them. Then they will see that those dumbarses didn't even test the phone as alien OS is present there and the service location will be fined with full swap price as a punishment as we didn't obey the contract.
For example HTC or Sony involves online logging system for each phone, where basic parameters are sent and self test data. If bootloader or OS is tampered we cannot do anything, none of manufacturer self test calibration program tools work as in hell custom OS doesn't provide compatibility with that!
So in the service location are mere contract people(although Polish, the second worst service locations in EU, the worst is Romania, although in Regenersis as far I know mostly romanians are being enslav... excuse me labored , god they have such poor repair quality since ages).
But leaving that aside, service location clean out the mess made by greedy manufacturers and egoistic users, we are not the manufacturer, imagine all the device mess around and for one guy to know how to unroot, change bootloader seek for nvflashes etc stuff... nope... noone does it, we need to feed our families too and the repair queues are long enough too, the stupid peace of plastic ain't worth it it consumes so much time and other people are waiting for the repair too. There for You were fined with motherboard replacement price... although 200$... ok those are two evenings in a bar...
So if you alter the OS/root, we cannot repair the damn phone, for example a silly broken touch screen. You just replace the darn thing and that's it, that is my software etc, well then who will calibrate that thing? Call the mojo battery calibration app, yes? LoL? Again flash stock OS? Oh crap wrong bootloader, oh crap version mismatch? What on earth the user flashed in, oh good it was found on some native china forums :cyclops:
So none of service locations will argue about power users who can clean up their mess and bring a reflashed clean device, no matter what you did before the device, the user has respect for our work and time and is willing to make the repair faster. But this isn't the case as USB is burned out.
And to this case specifically... yes you are busted, worst case scenario. If you won't pay and will argue, ok then the independent expertise will be needed = 100$. Then you must go to court, although the expert can also tell that it is your fault and then you are busted again.
But if the expert is dumb enough, then in the court what will the lawyers say... just what Tony did... playing with voltages can burn your phone just like a lousy screaming witch on a stick. And you signed those vicious papers, and you also knew about the risks just as in HTC site is stated word by word. Pay the expertise and court costs . [That happens always, default scenario]
I guess I made clear my point of view why altering the software voids your warranty, as it simply becomes irreparable brick in most cases.
About that fsfe.org... bull*** every argument there can be overthrown, believe me, I know, they have the common sense sentence there, it gives a lot of freedom
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Uhm, well i think thats all a oint of how much the ROM is altered and is it close to stock ROM. although it´s important whats broken.
And the most important thing is how obliging the customer service is.
For Example. i used to own an Sony Xperia Mini Pro. I Messed around with a couple of ROM´s and during this procedure somehow my touch driver faded away. Well there was warranty on it and the actual ROM was ROOTED AND CUSTOM but very close to stock.
I send it in and after the short service time of 6 weeks Sony said that they Can´t repair the device but they are giving me the actually worth oft the phone back. (so i lost 20€ from original price)
That´s that.
On the other Hand there are Ways to Prevent users from F***ing up the system
I owned an Alcaltel onetouch (don´t remember the number) with every update Alcatel Killed Root accses with every update the Good dev´s who worked on this phone must find a new way to get Root.
This Part is to the OP
But besides all That. Android is an open source system and everybody who uses a Custom Rom and OC the Phone or Alter the Kernel should not Cry when its broke. You know the risk guys if you root and customize a phone with warranty don´t expect the Producer to help you if you f**k up the phone with obviously things like OC or Fast Charge -Fast Charge i don´t get this anyway i charge my phone over night thats that i thin 6 hours are enough time so i don´t need a phone charged in 30 min -
Did you know that you can cause you cell to - in worst case every - Explode because of fast Charging?
All Limitations the Producer makes are mostly to prevent such thing as overheating and whatnot. Just because you can OC the CPU to 1,4 Ghz doesn´t mean you have to. Do you think when your heart beats all time on max BPM you will life long? think about that.
I used to own a HTC Desire HD there where models where you could OC from 1Ghz stock up to 1,8 Ghz seriously would you try it?
Well that really grinds my gears today ^^

Odp: [Q] Battery driver and charging port burned
tonyp said:
Actually you're wrong.
Rooting and flashing does NOT void your warranty - at least for us lucky EU citiziens.
http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html
So if you're still under warranty tell LG that you demand a repair on warranty and won't accept a fine.
Apart from that: Yes, if you mess with your kernel you can hardbrick your device. Frying a port is possible e.g. playing with the voltages.
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But in my warranty card, there is a paragraph saying that any modifications done on software voids warranty.
So I was aware of that.
OP, there's also a way if they really don't want to accept warranty because custom rom. I did it once to them, because I am living in Poland too. Put your phone in microwave and set it for a a second. It should hard damage motherboard and LG won't be able to read if rom was changed. I was lucky with LG P500 this way, but maybe now things changed.
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Rayman96 said:
But in my warranty card, there is a paragraph saying that any modifications done on software voids warranty.
So I was aware of that.
OP, there's also a way if they really don't want to accept warranty because custom rom. I did it once to them, because I am living in Poland too. Put your phone in microwave and set it for a a second. It should hard damage motherboard and LG won't be able to read if rom was changed. I was lucky with LG P500 this way, but maybe now things changed.
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Yes this might be an option rayman96 but OP has to be sure that´s there no other way.

Rayman96 said:
But in my warranty card, there is a paragraph saying that any modifications done on software voids warranty.
So I was aware of that.
Sent from LG 2X using Tapatalk 3 Beta
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But this doesn't matter. They can't just write into their warranty "what's written in law doesn't matter".
Okay they can "write" it in, but if there's a law that states otherwise that's useless.
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app

tonyp said:
But this doesn't matter. They can't just write into their warranty "what's written in law doesn't matter".
Okay they can "write" it in, but if there's a law that states otherwise that's useless.
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app
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Interesting, can you provide me source which says rooting does not voids warranty?
Edit: sorry, i missed it somehow

[Q] HTC Denying a warranty repair - advice

Hi all,
HTC have been denying me a warranty repair on my HTC One because I installed a custom rom (android revolution).
Now, the phone died in it's stock state. It had software errors (random car mode launching, going into landscape on the homescreen, rebooting apps) so I installed android revolution to see if it would fix it. It didn't, and it turns out the PCB Main board needs replacing. By this point, I couldn't revert to stock, so I checked the warranty info thoroughly which doesn't explicitly prohibit the unlocking of the bootloader.
3 months later, they are still refusing to repair my handset simply because it has a custom bootloader on. I've done my research and posted on their Facebook pages (can't link as I'm a new user).
And I got a call just telling me I was wrong, essentially. I posted another one today (can't get the link to it for some reason) but it's on HTC's and HTC Australia's main page.
Any thoughts or advice?
Cheers

gabjam said:
so I checked the warranty info thoroughly which doesn't explicitly prohibit the unlocking of the bootloader.
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See in red.
In orange is their explanation why they might void your warranty.
HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. We have heard your voice and starting now, we will allow our bootloader to be unlocked for 2011 models going forward. Please keep an eye on this website for more details on which devices will be adding this feature. We are extremely pleased to see the energy and enthusiasm from our fans and loyal customers, and we are excited to see what you are capable of. HTC eagerly anticipates your innovations.
It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty. Please note that unlocking your bootloader does not mean that you will be able to unlock the SIM lock. Unlocking your SIM lock is at the discretion of your operator/carrier and is not part of the bootloader unlocking scope.
Our devices have been designed with our hardware and software specifications in mind and unlocking the bootloader will change the software and may cause unexpected side effects. It is impossible for HTC to ensure the proper functioning of your device after this. In the worst case scenario, it is possible that your device may be physically damaged due to overheating or the behavior of your device might be altered including, but not limited to, hearing aid compatibility (HAC) and specific absorption rate (SAR) values.
Some content on your device may also be invalidated and cannot be accessed any more because of invalid DRM security keys. This includes content that you may have purchased through a 3rd party vendor and through HTC. Furthermore, although you will still be able to receive updates to your device via FOTA (“firmware over the air”), we do not guarantee that updating your device via FOTA will not render your device unusable. Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader. HTC bears no responsibility if your device is no longer usable afterwards.
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, due to some of our carrier customers concerns, certain models with specific restrictions may not be able to be unlocked. Please refer to our list of supported devices to see if your device is eligible for unlocking the bootloader.
We strongly suggest that you do not unlock the bootloader unless you are confident that you understand the risks involved. This is a technical procedure and the side effects could possibly necessitate repairs to your device not covered under warranty. If you are still interested in unlocking the bootloader, and you understand the consequences both to your device and to your warranty, then you may refer to the following pages where we have provided the unlocking instructions.
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http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader
Its a well known fact that you must return your phone back to stock before sending your phone to repair under warranty. Also you shouldn't try to troubleshoot it yourself and take the risk to void the warranty if you still have one.
Its like opening a computer case to try to fix it yourself, then bringing back the computer to the store and asking them to repair it under warranty. They will see that little "void if removed" stickers is torn and will refuse to repair it, same for the "UNLOCKED" flag in the bootloader.
Sorry

Awesome thanks for your detailed reply!
I feel I'm a little in a grey area here as the hardware broke before I installed the ROM and much of their information relates to the warranty being voided if the ROM causes the damage. By the time I went to revert to stock the phone had deteriorated and wouldn't charge or connect to anything so I couldn't get it back in Stock condition.
The phrase 'resulting from or caused by' unlocking the bootloader seems to apply to damage caused by unlocking the phone, whereas mine broke under stock conditions. I was aware of the risks of unlocking the bootloader but as the problems initially manifested as software bugs my first thought was to change the software, by which point I couldn't revert back...

gabjam said:
Awesome thanks for your detailed reply!
I feel I'm a little in a grey area here as the hardware broke before I installed the ROM
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but you can't prove them that the problem started before unlocking the bootloader but they can prove that you have unlocked it so the warning above apply. Sad story but its how big corporations protect themselves. Hardware damage can really happen when using custom software (e.g. overclocking the cpu too much using a custom rom/kernel) so they need a way to invalid the warranty in these cases.
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gabjam said:
but as the problems initially manifested as software bugs
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But unfortunately this issue was probably caused by a defective usb port, most likely the ID pin shorted somewhere and triggering car mode, like if the phone was inserted in a car dock or something like this.

Yeah it was caused by a defective USB port - but it was still charging and connecting at the time so I initially thought buggy software. The USB port then deteriorated.
It would be easier for all parties involved if they simply stated that while they allow unlocking the bootloader, it will automatically void your warranty. Rather than all the ifs and mays around their disclaimers at the moment which are open to interpretation.
Thanks for your replies guys. I appreciate your time.

alray said:
but you can't prove them that the problem started before unlocking the bootloader but they can prove that you have unlocked it so the warning above apply. Sad story but its how big corporations protect themselves. Hardware damage can really happen when using custom software (e.g. overclocking the cpu too much using a custom rom/kernel) so they need a way to invalid the warranty in these cases.
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But unfortunately this issue was probably caused by a defective usb port, most likely the ID pin shorted somewhere and triggering car mode, like if the phone was inserted in a car dock or something like this.
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Just a thought - its easy to see how overclocking can damage the processing components or memory components etc, but realistically could they claim a custom rom could somehow damage the USB port?

gabjam said:
Just a thought - its easy to see how overclocking can damage the processing components or memory components etc, but realistically could they claim a custom rom could somehow damage the USB port?
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Overheating can damage any components including ports.

Make your phone full stock
Remove tempered
Lock bootloader not relock
For all of this you need S Off which may cost you $25

gabjam said:
Hi all,
HTC have been denying me a warranty repair on my HTC One because I installed a custom rom (android revolution).
Now, the phone died in it's stock state. It had software errors (random car mode launching, going into landscape on the homescreen, rebooting apps) so I installed android revolution to see if it would fix it. It didn't, and it turns out the PCB Main board needs replacing. By this point, I couldn't revert to stock, so I checked the warranty info thoroughly which doesn't explicitly prohibit the unlocking of the bootloader.
3 months later, they are still refusing to repair my handset simply because it has a custom bootloader on. I've done my research and posted on their Facebook pages (can't link as I'm a new user).
And I got a call just telling me I was wrong, essentially. I posted another one today (can't get the link to it for some reason) but it's on HTC's and HTC Australia's main page.
Any thoughts or advice?
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Hi,
I have a good track record for complaining and winning so this is how I would approach the issue.
Firstly find the CEO for your regional office's name and email.
When you have nothing to lose go straight to the top it normally gets the quickest response!
Firstly explain (in an email to CEO) how you are a loyal customer to HTC and love the brand because of the flexibility and customisation acheived through this brand like no other.
You have followed the unlocking process exactly as described on the HTC dev site in an attempt to resolve an issue with your phone that developed earlier while still stock.
You realise this was a mistake now but feel let down by the brand that is technically more foward thinking than any other on the market.
You accept liability that your problem could be affiliated to the modifications you have made and may have jepordised your warranty but feel in some way HTC are partly accountable.
You could use this scenario,HTC gave you the keys to the candy store for you to browse and sample at your own convienience,however if you over step the mark in the shop you could be arrested.
No where in their T+C's does it provide an acceptable line to cross which seems a bit unfair.
They have waved a carrot in front of your nose,but snatched it away when it suited them when in their opinion you over stepped their threshold...which do no know is!
Could the company compromise on this occasion and perhaps meet you half way with the repair and take some accountability?
You really love the product and want to remain loyal but truly hoped their customer service would mirror their 1st class product.
Quite often companies like this will waiver bills and repair costs if they think you will remain a loyal customer and spread their name around.
Just think if they wasted a few hundred £'s on you you might influence several people to buy their brand by reputation which is the best marketing tool for any up and coming company.
As i say i have taken this route before and been honest but also expressed my dissapointment in a mature way and had positive results in less than 24hrs.
you could get a good discount which is better than nothing at all and you have nothing to lose at the moment!
Shepps