Database Develop

Downgrade

Got the moto x on Friday and the rep in the store updated it while it was being activated. Didn't know she did it until I saw it installing. Was looking to root and saw you couldn't after the update so I was going to downgrade. Then I could root, protect it and then update. I got the fireware file for the uscc moto x and erased the getvar line in the XML file but it will not flash. I don't remember exactly what was displayed on the phones screen but it said something about downgrade and security. Is it possible to downgrade the x?
Sent from my XT1055 using Tapatalk

You cannot downgrade. Your best bet is to return the phone and have them replace it and don't let them update.

Thanks for the info. I will probably just unlock the boot loader but wanted to check first. All I'm after is root.
Sent from my XT1055 using Tapatalk

If you can definatly unlock doooeeeet

That's one time that full service is not welcome!!!! I'm with shane1.. If ur not on retail att or vzw.. Unlock ur boot loader and root that way.
Whilst Jcase and hashcode are doing amazing work for us who can't unlock (sad face) or don't want to "void" their warranty by unlocking, it will always be a cat and mouse game whenever ota are released..
Sent from my XT1058

T-Mobile ROM on unlocked AT&T

I have the chance to get a new AT&T Moto X for a great price. I'm on T-Mobile, though, and use their WiFi calling. Is it possible to root and install a T-Mobile ROM onto the AT&T Moto X?
Thanks.

Yes, I have the 1058 and flashed t mobile roms
Sent on my Moto X

Wifi calling is not supported on the Moto x.
Sent from my XT1058 using xda premium

flashallthetime said:
Yes, I have the 1058 and flashed t mobile roms
Sent on my Moto X
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Using it on T-Mobile you get 4g?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app

osugsxr said:
Using it on T-Mobile you get 4g?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, actually 4 g LTE, tested it and download speed ran at 50mbs/sec
Sent on my Moto X

Deleted

flashallthetime said:
Yes, I have the 1058 and flashed t mobile roms
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot commands without having to unlock the bootloader?

mschumacher69 said:
Can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot commands without having to unlock the bootloader?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, the bootloader must be unlocked to do that.

Steve-x said:
No, the bootloader must be unlocked to do that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But afaik, the ATT XT1058's bootloader cannot be unlocked. So how did @flashallthetime install the TMO ROM on his ATT XT1058 without unlocking the bootloader?

mschumacher69 said:
But afaik, the ATT XT1058's bootloader cannot be unlocked. So how did @flashallthetime install the TMO ROM on his ATT XT1058 without unlocking the bootloader?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure. He is in Canada so I assume he has a Rogers XT1058(same hardware as the AT&T phone) and unlocked his bootloader.
I believe there are flashable zips that can be used with a rooted phone, however the process isn't as simple as flashing the full image with rsdlite.

mschumacher69 said:
But afaik, the ATT XT1058's bootloader cannot be unlocked. So how did @flashallthetime install the TMO ROM on his ATT XT1058 without unlocking the bootloader?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's clarify things,
1) my bootloader is unlocked because I have a Rogers variant
2) flashing touched Roms through twrp recovery only, yes flashing flashable 1053 roms
3) I have never attempted to rsdlite any firmware other than rogers firmware
Is this clear enough, I do not want anyone to brick there phone, had 3 soft bricks to this point myself, its a frigging pain in the butt and yes they all involved flashing Roms. The moto is a great phone but its also very finicky
My suggestion is wait for your carriers firmware to be available and rsdlite it.
Yesterday I again had a soft brick just from restoring a nandroid, so I rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, I had it downloaded already. I then accepted the new camera ota and everything went fine until I tried to flash twrp recovery, it wouldn't flash, so I tried to rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, no go. It seems that I can't downgrade from an ota even with a unlocked boot loader
Edit: patience, obviously we are all going to receive kitkat soon enough and I believe AT&T is next up, US carriers first and then all other carriers.
Trust me I want kitkat too but not willing to jump through and dig a frigging hole I can't get out of
Sent on my Moto X

flashallthetime said:
Let's clarify things,
1) my bootloader is unlocked because I have a Rogers variant
2) flashing touched Roms through twrp recovery only, yes flashing flashable 1053 roms
3) I have never attempted to rsdlite any firmware other than rogers firmware
Is this clear enough, I do not want anyone to brick there phone, had 3 soft bricks to this point myself, its a frigging pain in the butt and yes they all involved flashing Roms. The moto is a great phone but its also very finicky
My suggestion is wait for your carriers firmware to be available and rsdlite it.
Yesterday I again had a soft brick just from restoring a nandroid, so I rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, I had it downloaded already. I then accepted the new camera ota and everything went fine until I tried to flash twrp recovery, it wouldn't flash, so I tried to rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, no go. It seems that I can't downgrade from an ota even with a unlocked boot loader
Sent on my Moto X
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So my question is again, can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot even though the bootloader cannot be unlocked on the ATT XT1058?
Thanks

mschumacher69 said:
So my question is again, can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot even though the bootloader cannot be unlocked on the ATT XT1058?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No
No
No
Wait, tomorrow you'll get your bar of chocolate
Sent on my Moto X

I have a moto x on at&t in the US and I want to use it on tmobile. You guys have any recommendations on how to do this?

nickvp said:
I have a moto x on at&t in the US and I want to use it on tmobile. You guys have any recommendations on how to do this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use rsdlite, should work fine but I have flashed both and getting slightly better battery life with the at&t version, also it seems faster, no lock screen lag where on the T-Mobile version I had a lag unlocking my device. The T-Mobile version has no bloatware
Sent on my Moto X

flashallthetime said:
Use rsdlite, should work fine but I have flashed both and getting slightly better battery life with the at&t version, also it seems faster, no lock screen lag where on the T-Mobile version I had a lag unlocking my device. The T-Mobile version has no bloatware
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought you could't flash a different ROM on a locked bootloader phone.
So how can he flash the T-Mobile ROM on an AT&T phone if he cannot unlock the bootloader??

I don't think we are all talking about the same thing. What is rsd lite? A Rom? I'd like to keep stock android so I can get the ota updates. I just need to sim unlock
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app

nickvp said:
I don't think we are all talking about the same thing. What is rsd lite? A Rom? I'd like to keep stock android so I can get the ota updates. I just need to sim unlock
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a different story then. You need to request the sim unlock code from at&t and hope they give it to you. Tell them you're travelling and u need to use it abroad
There might also be 3rd party services on ebay that would offer sim unlocking ur phone for a fee, but i'm not sure if it's available for the Moto X.

mschumacher69 said:
That's a different story then. You need to request the sim unlock code from at&t and hope they give it to you. Tell them you're travelling and u need to use it abroad
There might also be 3rd party services on ebay that would offer sim unlocking ur phone for a fee, but i'm not sure if it's available for the Moto X.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha okay sounds good. Thanks for the help. Good luck to whatever else you guys were talking about

Ahhh...?rooting and unlocking bootloader sucked!

Did something happen?? I just switched over from my atrix hd it's been rooted and unlocked bootloader for over a year. Well my wife thought if I did the same to get atrix she could get more money out of it. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader on hers was one of the most time consuming unlock I've done. I had to use ubuntu and etc etc...wow did she get an update that made it so complicated from when i did mine??
Sent from my XT1053 using xda app-developers app

If she was on 4.1.x a few months ago, then yeah...
AFAIK The Ubuntu Root method wasn't so bad though. After one or two tries it goes through easy.
The bootloader unlock was rather easy as well.
At least you managed to root & unlock it so it all worked out right? ?
Sent via carrier pigeon from my pigeon delivery app.

Shinryu-chan said:
If she was on 4.1.x a few months ago, then yeah...
AFAIK The Ubuntu Root method wasn't so bad though. After one or two tries it goes through easy.
The bootloader unlock was rather easy as well.
At least you managed to root & unlock it so it all worked out right? ?
Sent via carrier pigeon from my pigeon delivery app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wasn't there a one-click root method added sometime after?

Byakko Custom said:
Wasn't there a one-click root method added sometime after?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Quit quoting me already!
Don't you have anything better to do?
Sent via carrier pigeon from my pigeon delivery app.

@needleyepoke Myth Tools, which uses motopocalypse to unlock the bootloader and motochopper to root. Takes about a minute each. Or you can download each tool seperately
Sent from my Atrix HD using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Is there a newer method for unlocking your bootloader? for system version 98.4.20? Because motoapacolypse will not unlock my bootloader and several pages claim it still works. I need a method compaitble with windows 7 and complete instructions please.

Wolfeman781992 said:
Is there a newer method for unlocking your bootloader? for system version 98.4.20? Because motoapacolypse will not unlock my bootloader and several pages claim it still works. I need a method compaitble with windows 7 and complete instructions please.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mythtools/motoapacolypse didn't work? Did you install the drivers and put the mythtool files in the right directories
Sent from my MB886 with the same version as you, rooted and unlocked, using xda app-developers app

Mythtools: never seen any mention of this
motoapacolypse: this didnt work
I just wanna install cyanogenmod i rooted and kept the stock rom cus i wanted to keep using smartactions but after having tons of problems i switched to juice defender ultimate and i see no reason to stay on stock firmware with its bad battery life and excessively high ram usage

[Q] Can we get model specific forums or enforce the posting of models in the develope

I've come from a long line of Nexus devices. Rooting was just a few short commands away, always. But I have no idea what to do with this device. Do I have to use RockMyMoto? Do I have to use SlapMyMoto? I have the 1053 so surely I should just be able to do OEM unlock right?
I haven't found any thread that says what specific way it should be done for what specific device model. When I asked in the Dev threads I gotten barked at.
With the Galaxy Nexus there with VZW and GSM separate development threads. Why on earth is the Moto X, which has 4 versions, all grouped together?!
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

elpeterson said:
I've come from a long line of Nexus devices. Rooting was just a few short commands away, always. But I have no idea what to do with this device. Do I have to use RockMyMoto? Do I have to use SlapMyMoto? I have the 1053 so surely I should just be able to do OEM unlock right?
I haven't found any thread that says what specific way it should be done for what specific device model. When I asked in the Dev threads I gotten barked at.
With the Galaxy Nexus there with VZW and GSM separate development threads. Why on earth is the Moto X, which has 4 versions, all grouped together?!
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand your frustration and it might clean up the threads but might not, actually think the problem is people starting duplicate and triplicate threads. The only 2 moto x that can not be bootloader unlock are Verizon & AT&T consumer versions, all other versions can be bootloader unlocked. I would suggest pm'ing a moderator to see if anything can be done
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

elpeterson said:
I've come from a long line of Nexus devices. Rooting was just a few short commands away, always. But I have no idea what to do with this device. Do I have to use RockMyMoto? Do I have to use SlapMyMoto? I have the 1053 so surely I should just be able to do OEM unlock right?
I haven't found any thread that says what specific way it should be done for what specific device model. When I asked in the Dev threads I gotten barked at.
With the Galaxy Nexus there with VZW and GSM separate development threads. Why on earth is the Moto X, which has 4 versions, all grouped together?!
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had similar issues coming from a Galaxy Nexus toro and trying figure out how to unlock and root. I really have no recollection of unlocking or rooting my last device as it was so long ago. Starting on a new device almost felt like I had never done it before. Someone else wrote up this link which is the best resource I have come across: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358

Even though the Moto X has several different variants, they all use the same root exploit with their own firmware. It's really not that difficult to follow.
If you can root an Android device, you can figure out which firmware you need to use with which root exploit (of which there is only 1 for all the variants). If you need help unlocking the bootloader and rooting, you're probably not all that bright.

nhizzat said:
Even though the Moto X has several different variants, they all use the same root exploit with their own firmware. It's really not that difficult to follow.
If you can root an Android device, you can figure out which firmware you need to use with which root exploit (of which there is only 1 for all the variants). If you need help unlocking the bootloader and rooting, you're probably not all that bright.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good ol' xda. People like you are why people like me try to stray away from these forums.
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

elpeterson said:
Good ol' xda. People like you are why people like me try to stray away from these forums.
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no he is right we have 2 root exploits SlapMymoto for locked bootloaders and Custom recovery for unlocked bootloaders.
not for the fact that most of the roms cross model's and so forth i am working on making my guide a one stop shop for all root info just give me some time. i just added some info at the top that i just post below that will help everyone get started.
Ok so you want to Root your device, There are a couple questions you need to ask your self first
1. Do i care about warranty
A. If you say yes then go no farther in this and just use slapmymoto to root your phone( See Guide for Locked bootloaders)
B. if you say no then continue to the next question
2. If my bootloader able to be unlocked?( go Here to see if it can be.)
A. If it can't be unlocked then use slapmymoto to root your phone( See Guide for Locked bootloaders)
B. if it can be then move to the next question
3. What custom Recovery do i want ClockWork Mod or TWRP.
A. if you pick CWM then go Here and download it(See Guide for Unlocked Bootloader)
B. if you pick TWRP then go Here and download it(See Guide for Unlocked Bootloader)
(this display is not 100% correct still working out some issues and info!
XT1049 - Republic Wireless - Sim Locked - ? Unlock Bootloader - Use SlapMyMoto 4 Root
XT1053 -T-Mobile US, Dev Ed - Sim Unlocked - Can Unlock Bootloader Use Customer Recovery 4 Root
XT1055 - US Cellular - Sim ? - Can Unlock Bootloader - Use Custom Recovery 4 Root
XT1056 - Sprint - Sim Locked - Can Unlock Bootloader - Use Custom Recovery 4 Root
XT1058 - AT&T, Rogers, Claro, Movistar, Vivo, Oi, TIM - Sim Unlocked - ? Unlock Bootloader - Use SlapMyMoto 4 Root
XT1060 - Verizon - Sim Locked - Can't Unlock Bootloader - Use SlapMyMoto 4 Root

I'm not saying he is wrong. I'm saying he has an attitude problem.
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

dray_jr said:
no he is right we have 2 root exploits SlapMymoto for locked bootloaders and Custom recovery for unlocked bootloaders.
not for the fact that most of the roms cross model's and so forth i am working on making my guide a one stop shop for all root info just give me some time. i just added some info at the top that i just post below that will help everyone get started.
Ok so you want to Root your device, There are a couple questions you need to ask your self first
1. Do i care about warranty
A. If you say yes then go no farther in this and just use slapmymoto to root your phone( See Guide for Locked bootloaders)
B. if you say no then continue to the next question
2. If my bootloader able to be unlocked?( go Here to see if it can be.)
A. If it can't be unlocked then use slapmymoto to root your phone( See Guide for Locked bootloaders)
B. if it can be then move to the next question
3. What custom Recovery do i want ClockWork Mod or TWRP.
A. if you pick CWM then go Here and download it(See Guide for Unlocked Bootloader)
B. if you pick TWRP then go Here and download it(See Guide for Unlocked Bootloader)
(this display is not 100% correct still working out some issues and info!
XT1049 - Republic Wireless - Sim Locked - ? Unlock Bootloader - Use SlapMyMoto 4 Root
XT1053 -T-Mobile US, Dev Ed - Sim Unlocked - Can Unlock Bootloader Use Customer Recovery 4 Root
XT1055 - US Cellular - Sim ? - Can Unlock Bootloader - Use Custom Recovery 4 Root
XT1056 - Sprint - Sim Locked - Can Unlock Bootloader - Use Custom Recovery 4 Root
XT1058 - AT&T, Rogers, Claro, Movistar, Vivo, Oi, TIM - Sim Unlocked - ? Unlock Bootloader - Use SlapMyMoto 4 Root
XT1060 - Verizon - Sim Locked - Can't Unlock Bootloader - Use SlapMyMoto 4 Root
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good work also dhacker29 has to new recovery zips that seem to work with european variants found here, I think it would be a good idea to add them http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/MotoX/
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

flashallthetime said:
Good work also dhacker29 has to new recovery zips that seem to work with european variants found here, I think it would be a good idea to add them http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/MotoX/
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i will def look into it i wish dhacker would post here some his info is easier to find. but i won't start working on the thread untill tonight i have to get this website i am building for a client up and running soon i have been slacking

dray_jr said:
i will def look into it i wish dhacker would post here some his info is easier to find. but i won't start working on the thread untill tonight i have to get this website i am building for a client up and running soon i have been slacking
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem, wish he would also be active here but obviously moto x is small fry for him,the guy is all over the place
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet

If rooting was so important you should have gotten a developer edition or an X with an unlockable bootloader. I haven't had to slap, pwn, crack, sneeze my moto or any of that nonsense. Within ten minutes of turning my phone on I had root. I was one of the first to have 4.4.2 and I'm one of the few who were able to update and keep root.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !

SymbioticGenius said:
If rooting was so important you should have gotten a developer edition or an X with an unlockable bootloader. I haven't had to slap, pwn, crack, sneeze my moto or any of that nonsense. Within ten minutes of turning my phone on I had root. I was one of the first to have 4.4.2 and I'm one of the few who were able to update and keep root.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was able to keep root also by using su to protect and restore root I downloaded file flash back to stock recovery still had root apps installed and did not disable Xposed as soon as I loaded the file to the device I was notified of system update available I installed directly from there Took me about 5 minutes went off much easier than I expected
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Having issue with 4.2.2 JB. update need help

Just got my Moto x Verizon branded and came with 4.2.2 JB. For some reason when I hit the update it says I'm on the latest firmware. Any idea what's going on here. Im currently situated in Dubai but not sure how that would have anything to do with it. Any help?
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk

yes, update moto update services via playstore. I dont own a vz X but I suggest you check your bootloder unlock option if interested before updating.

Yes root and unlock it now, because 4.4.4 root isn't quite ideal yet.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk

bushako said:
Just got my Moto x Verizon branded and came with 4.2.2 JB. For some reason when I hit the update it says I'm on the latest firmware. Any idea what's going on here. Im currently situated in Dubai but not sure how that would have anything to do with it. Any help?
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you buy it used? If yes, then its possible that the previous owner rooted and disabled the OTA update check. Especially if this is NOT a Developer Edition for Verizon.
Now, if it was purchased new, or the original owner didn't disable the OTA update check, then its likely because you are not on Verizon's network. I've seen this happen on my BB Z10, galaxy S4 and S5, and my Moto X, when running wth my t-mobile sims or on wifi. They will always say either no update found (90% of the time), or Update service not available (10% of the time). I must put my Verizon SIM in to download the update.
Since both the Developer and Non-Developer XT1060 for Verizon use the same ROMs you can download and manually flash the SFB/FXZ files from Moto Directly... -> HERE If you have the Non-Developer XT1060 and you want to unlock the bootloader, do NOT flash anything newer than 4.4.2!!
Use the link in my signature about the Risks of Downgrading to confirm your phone's bootloader version to get a better understanding of your phone's state.
IF you want to root and disable write protection going forward, you need to unlock the bootloader, and you do NOT have the developer edition for Verizon, the only option for that would be to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader BEFORE you upgrade it to 4.4.4 or higher. For more... see HERE

KidJoe said:
Did you buy it used? If yes, then its possible that the previous owner rooted and disabled the OTA update check. Especially if this is NOT a Developer Edition for Verizon.
Now, if it was purchased new, or the original owner didn't disable the OTA update check, then its likely because you are not on Verizon's network. I've seen this happen on my BB Z10, galaxy S4 and S5, and my Moto X, when running wth my t-mobile sims or on wifi. They will always say either no update found (90% of the time), or Update service not available (10% of the time). I must put my Verizon SIM in to download the update.
Since both the Developer and Non-Developer XT1060 for Verizon use the same ROMs you can download and manually flash the SFB/FXZ files from Moto Directly... -> HERE If you have the Non-Developer XT1060 and you want to unlock the bootloader, do NOT flash anything newer than 4.4.2!!
Use the link in my signature about the Risks of Downgrading to confirm your phone's bootloader version to get a better understanding of your phone's state.
IF you want to root and disable write protection going forward, you need to unlock the bootloader, and you do NOT have the developer edition for Verizon, the only option for that would be to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader BEFORE you upgrade it to 4.4.4 or higher. For more... see HERE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got it brand new sealed box cost approx $122 16GB, so no chance of it being rooted. I'm glad that it's still JB, read that part of 4.4.4 being not unlockable at the moment. So I just made the payment for Sunshine now waiting for either of the devs to wake up and send me those sweet digits to unlock. The phone came with a Verizon sim card in it but I get a message saying its unrecognizable but that's okay It's customs roms all the way for me from here.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk

@bushako @hbenz2008 @metaljr81 @KidJoe
You are all now in a new thread.