Curious, say if, a Verizon Developer Edition had the MotoWPNoMo modification, would the lack of Write Protection and Bootloader unlock allow for the flashing of the GSM Dev edition software?
Given that the Verizon Moto X has the guts needed to function fully on T Mobile if so desired, would this actually work?
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Rebel908 said:
Curious, say if, a Verizon Developer Edition had the MotoWPNoMo modification, would the lack of Write Protection and Bootloader unlock allow for the flashing of the GSM Dev edition software?
Given that the Verizon Moto X has the guts needed to function fully on T Mobile if so desired, would this actually work?
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MotoWPNoMO isn't needed when you unlock bootloader and root a Dev Edition via TWRP/SuperSU (or ther customer recovery & SuperSU).
In any case, the XT1060 and XT1053 have different radios. So at least you'd want to be careful of that. And its typically not recommended you cross flash roms like that.
Why would you use MotoPwnNoMo on a developer edition?
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Okay I am wanting get a Moto X soon with my contact expiring, and I am in to custom ROMs, rooting etc, but when I search the Moto X there's information i'm confused on.
First can non developer editions be unlocked? I am with Alltel atm which is a CDMA carrier who have the regular Moto X, can that be unlocked?
They are being slowly taken over and transitioned to GSM by AT&T, I like the idea of the Moto X but if I can't both root it and unlock the boot loader I am going to skip it.
I don't have the kind of money to buy the developer edition just to use it on my current carrier.
Thank you in advanced!
The moto x DE isn't much more than the regular one. What carrier? Verizon and at&t can't be unlocked. Or rooted if they come with 4.4.2.
Honestly, if your into flashing And whatnot....you want the N5. No question.
As much as I love the X....its not a flashers phone.
If you want to unlock the bootloader, you need to get an GSM version. Get the Dev Edition version so you won't lose your warranty from unlock it.
If you want to flash rom there is no point of getting the Moto X for two reason;
1. There is almost no roms for it.
2. You lose all the features of the Moto X. If you don't want the Moto X features, there is no point of getting it, there are other phones with better specs.
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As much as I love the X....its not a flashers phone.
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Which I love because now I spend much more time actually using the phone and it's practical features rather than flashing.
eksasol said:
If you want to unlock the bootloader, you need to get an GSM version. Get the Dev Edition version so you won't lose your warranty from unlock it.
If you want to flash rom there is no point of getting the Moto X for two reason;
1. There is almost no roms for it.
2. You lose all the features of the Moto X. If you don't want the Moto X features, there is no point of getting it, there are other phones with better specs.
Which I love because now I spend much more time actually using the phone and it's practical features rather than flashing.
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The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
FreakyFreakGA said:
The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
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Yes, but I heard with ATT and Verizon not yet for ver 4.4.2, I could be wrong. But as long as you buy unlocked version getting bootloader unlocked is very easy.
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The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
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At the moment, if you're already on 4.4.2 with a Verizon or at&t retail phone....there's no way to root.
Hi just wondering if anyone knows which model numbers of the moto x have an unlockable bootloader i see on the cyanogenmod download page that there is cm for the xt1053, xt1058 and xt1060 does this mean all of these are unlockable or are some of these using safestrap? also does it depend on which region you purchase the phone from? thanks guys and girls
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Hi just wondering if anyone knows which model numbers of the moto x have an unlockable bootloader i see on the cyanogenmod download page that there is cm for the xt1053, xt1058 and xt1060 does this mean all of these are unlockable or are some of these using safestrap? also does it depend on which region you purchase the phone from? thanks guys and girls
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All XT1053 's are unlockable
All XT1052 's are unlockable
All XT1050 's are unlockable
All XT1055 's are unlockable
All XT1056 's are unlockable
All XT1058 's are unlockable EXCEPT AT&T
Only the DEVELOPER edition XT1060 is unlockable
NO XT1049 's are unlockable (except nTelos)
Basically, they can all be unlocked EXCEPT Verizon (though the DEV edition can be unlocked), AT&T, and Republic Wireless.
You can NOT use CM or any other non-stock-based custom ROMs with safe-strap. Safe-strap is for stock based ROMs ONLY.
This is all completely accurate with the exception of the services of the "China Middleman" (use search).
The middleman sells unlock codes for some of the locked variants. While many are successful at unlocking, many are unable to receive codes as well. See that thread for further details.
You are an absolute legend thanks so much, i spent ages looking for that info
Hi again,
Is it possible install a Dev Edition ROM on a "common" Moto X?
Thanks!
alrojas said:
Hi again,
Is it possible install a Dev Edition ROM on a "common" Moto X?
Thanks!
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The Dev edition Roms aren't one byte different from the regular ones.
The vzw Dev edition uses the regular xt1060 ROM.
The GSM Dev edition use the T-Mobile xt1053 ROM.
What are you trying to accomplish?!?
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The Dev edition Roms aren't one byte different from the regular ones.
The vzw Dev edition uses the regular xt1060 ROM.
The GSM Dev edition use the T-Mobile xt1053 ROM.
What are you trying to accomplish?!?
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I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
alrojas said:
I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
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There is no hardware or software difference besides the unlockable bootloader. When the bootloader exploit gets released, unlock your device, and it will be nearly the same. (I only say nearly because I feel like i'm forgetting something.
alrojas said:
I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
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That really doesn't make sense....but no. You can't.
There are SEVERAL XT1058s. Which do you have? The AT&T Variant, or a different one?
If you do NOT have the AT&T variant, you can already unlock the bootloader which basically "transforms" it into a DEV edition without doing anything else.
Any phone with an unlocked bootloader *IS* an un-official "DEV" edition. There is nothing "special" about the Dev editions except for their unlockable bootloaders, or rather the fact that they retain their warranty after being unlocked.
I'm not understanding what you intend to gain?
ALL Moto X's have unlockable bootloaders *EXCEPT* for the Verizon, AT&T, and Republic Wireless variants.
The only thing "special" about the dev editions is that they keep their warranty intact after unlocking the bootloader. But if it isn't a device SOLD as a DEV edition, you will void its warranty anyways.
And if you happen to have the AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, see the thread in General titled "China Middleman Back" - that guy sells codes that unlock the bootloader on the locked variants. If you pay him and get a code, your phone will be a non-official DEV edition. If you DON'T have AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, you can *already* unlock it *FREE* from Moto's official unlock website.
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That really doesn't make sense....but no. You can't.
There are SEVERAL XT1058s. Which do you have? The AT&T Variant, or a different one?
If you do NOT have the AT&T variant, you can already unlock the bootloader which basically "transforms" it into a DEV edition without doing anything else.
Any phone with an unlocked bootloader *IS* an un-official "DEV" edition. There is nothing "special" about the Dev editions except for their unlockable bootloaders, or rather the fact that they retain their warranty after being unlocked.
I'm not understanding what you intend to gain?
ALL Moto X's have unlockable bootloaders *EXCEPT* for the Verizon, AT&T, and Republic Wireless variants.
The only thing "special" about the dev editions is that they keep their warranty intact after unlocking the bootloader. But if it isn't a device SOLD as a DEV edition, you will void its warranty anyways.
And if you happen to have the AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, see the thread in General titled "China Middleman Back" - that guy sells codes that unlock the bootloader on the locked variants. If you pay him and get a code, your phone will be a non-official DEV edition. If you DON'T have AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, you can *already* unlock it *FREE* from Moto's official unlock website.
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@samwathegreat can i flash a Galaxy Note 3 rom? I want to transform my maxx to a note 3. I really like the bigger screen.
Wut?
Hi,
I got the moto x xt1058, can I flash the developper factory image for the xt1053 so i get the developper edition and get the update faster?
Thank you.
Sure if your bootloader is unlocked. All Moto Xs are technically developer editions, the one difference is the unlock codes will not be provided for the Verizon and AT&T versions.
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Sure if your bootloader is unlocked. All Moto Xs are technically developer editions, the one difference is the unlock codes will not be provided for the Verizon and AT&T versions.
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Thank you man!
cdeslaur said:
Hi,
I got the moto x xt1058, can I flash the developper factory image for the xt1053 so i get the developper edition and get the update faster?
Thank you.
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A few things to consider...
The Developer Edition does NOT get updates faster than any other model X.
The "unlocked ships with XXX Sim" Moto Maker editions are also XT1053 and get the updates at the same time as the Dev Edition XT1053.
Moto seemed to be rotating what model/carrier got the 2013 X updates in the past (going back to the 4.2.2 w/camera OTA, 4.4, 4.4.2 and 4.4.4). Its likely that Moto will continue this pattern.
The XT1058 and XT1053 support different frequencies (mostly LTE), and have different radio/modem files, that could have an impact on you depending on what frequencies your carrier uses.
the CID of the phone wont be changed. There is a chance this may or may not impact installing OTA's.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do this. (You don't mention who your XT1058 is from, and if its bootloader is unlocked.)
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A few things to consider...
The Developer Edition does NOT get updates faster than any other model X.
The "unlocked ships with XXX Sim" Moto Maker editions are also XT1053 and get the updates at the same time as the Dev Edition XT1053.
Moto seemed to be rotating what model/carrier got the 2013 X updates in the past (going back to the 4.2.2 w/camera OTA, 4.4, 4.4.2 and 4.4.4). Its likely that Moto will continue this pattern.
The XT1058 and XT1053 support different frequencies (mostly LTE), and have different radio/modem files, that could have an impact on you depending on what frequencies your carrier uses.
the CID of the phone wont be changed. There is a chance this may or may not impact installing OTA's.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do this. (You don't mention who your XT1058 is from, and if its bootloader is unlocked.)
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Thank you,
The reason I thought it would update faster is because I saw that the new moto X pure edition got update faster than the verizon for example. So I tought it would be the same thing for the moto x 2013 and the xt1053 version is the developper edition.
Thank you
cdeslaur said:
Thank you,
The reason I thought it would update faster is because I saw that the new moto X pure edition got update faster than the verizon for example. So I tought it would be the same thing for the moto x 2013 and the xt1053 version is the developper edition.
Thank you
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You can't assume that one device (2013 X) will be the same as another (2014 X).
And for the 2013 X, there are TWO Developer Editions. XT1053 and XT1060. They use the same rom as their retail and motomaker counterparts and got their updates at the same time as their retail/motomaker counterparts.
Example: The GSM Dev Edition is the XT1053, but so is the "Unlocked shipps with T-Mobile SIM" version sold on Moto Maker, same with the "Unlocked Ships with Net10 sim" sold on Moto Maker. They all get the updates at the same time.
And The Developer Edition for Verizon is the XT1060, but so is the Moto Maker or Retail 2013 X for Verizon. They all get their updates at the same time.
There was a thread somewhere that listed the order Moto was rolling out the OTA's. It showed each OTA, and which model X got that OTA first. For one OTA it was the XT1060 (Verizon), for another OTA it was ATT (XT1058), for another it was Sprint (XT1056), and so on.
Wouldn't the GSM dev edition get OTAs faster than an At&t or Verizon (including Verizon dev) editions since their updates have carrier bloatware and need carrier approval?
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spunker88 said:
Wouldn't the GSM dev edition get OTAs faster than an At&t or Verizon (including Verizon dev) editions since their updates have carrier bloatware and need carrier approval?
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Actually the xt1053 was dead last to receive 4.4.4 and was first to get 4.4.3
spunker88 said:
Wouldn't the GSM dev edition get OTAs faster than an At&t or Verizon (including Verizon dev) editions since their updates have carrier bloatware and need carrier approval?
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Not necessarily. Take 4.4.4, XT1053 was one of the last to get it.
Verizon XT1060 got 4.4.4 in last few days of July.. http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/2...e-now-available-to-all-here-is-the-changelog/
ATT XT1058 got soak in early august, I can't find when they finally pushed to users -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...pdate-now-rolling-out-to-soak-testers-on-att/
Sprint got 4.4.4 End of August -> https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/837886#837886
XT1050/Unlocked/T-Mobile/DevEd got soak in end of Sept, but I can't find when it started actually pushing to all users -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...finally-getting-its-android-4-4-4-ota-update/
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
David Neon said:
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
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I don't know if vzw provides unlock codes.
But what I can say is warranty won't affect your chance of getting an unlock code.
You should check on moto website.
If you enter the imei number they'll tell you whether it can be unlocked
adity said:
I don't know if vzw provides unlock codes.
But what I can say is warranty won't affect your chance of getting an unlock code.
You should check on moto website.
If you enter the imei number they'll tell you whether it can be unlocked
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Eh, thanks I was hoping to get it from motorola cause sunshine isn't working either cause it requires root, link of a working root method for locked boot loader would be much appreciated.
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David Neon said:
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
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No. Moto will never give out the bootloader unlock code on the Non-Developer Edition XT1060 (likely due to their contract with Verizon), and Verizon does not give them out (for dev edition either).
And with the locked bootloader, once 4.4.4 is on your phone, you can't root it.
KidJoe said:
No. Moto will never give out the bootloader unlock code on the Non-Developer Edition XT1060 (likely due to their contract with Verizon), and Verizon does not give them out (for dev edition either).
And with the locked bootloader, once 4.4.4 is on your phone, you can't root it.
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Well that's sad.. , BTW I found a root method for locked boot loader for vz's moto x on rootzwiki, Will that work ?
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David Neon said:
Well that's sad.. , BTW I found a root method for locked boot loader for vz's moto x on rootzwiki, Will that work ?
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Its likely for an OLDER ROM.
There were about 3 or 4 different processes for X with a locked bootloader, but it was based on ROM version on the phone (i.e. 4.2.2 w/camera update, 4.4, 4.42). Once 4.4.4 is on there, all past vulnerabilities that were exploited on phones with locked bootloaders have been patched/closed, so if you have 4.4.4 on the phone and can't unlock the bootloader, you can't root.
See also -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918
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Its likely for an OLDER ROM.
There were about 3 or 4 different processes for X with a locked bootloader, but it was based on ROM version on the phone (i.e. 4.2.2 w/camera update, 4.4, 4.42). Once 4.4.4 is on there, all past vulnerabilities that were exploited on phones with locked bootloaders have been patched/closed, so if you have 4.4.4 on the phone and can't unlock the bootloader, you can't root.
See also -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918
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Thanks bro, guess I am stuck with a chained phone
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