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The battery in my P880 was lasting almost nothing! The percentage emptied fast! That's when I decided to calibrate the battery! Oh my god! Now is MUCH better.
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xavierleonelbr said:
The battery in my P880 was lasting almost nothing! The percentage emptied fast! That's when I decided to calibrate the battery! Oh my god! Now is MUCH better.
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My mobile phone battery lasts almost 24 hours
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My mobile phone battery lasts almost 24 hours
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around 12 hours with moderate use
also, battery is autocalibrated..
i guess its tegra related..
but i didnt find the need to calibrate it since ever..
and i restart my phone alot.. *by pulling its bat out*
The Troll said:
around 12 hours with moderate use
also, battery is autocalibrated..
i guess its tegra related..
but i didnt find the need to calibrate it since ever..
and i restart my phone alot.. *by pulling its bat out*
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Depends what you call moderate... when I'm using only as a phone, answering and making calls, lasts for more than two days, with wi-fi on (except when "sleeping".
Of course that if I'm using Navigon for 1 hour without charger its normal that the battery disapears
I use the display light at 50%, no power saving activate, and like I daid before, only using as phone at least 2 days (I don't receive calls or make them every 2 minutes of course)
How exactly does one calibrate the battery?
my moderate, i mean lil gaming and whatsapp all the time..
plus wifi always on.
xavierleonelbr said:
The battery in my P880 was lasting almost nothing! The percentage emptied fast! That's when I decided to calibrate the battery! Oh my god! Now is MUCH better.
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How exactly did you calibrate it?
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How exactly does one calibrate the battery?
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How exactly did you calibrate it?
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One way is to drain the battery until its finished then recharge it.
another is to download apps like this to do a better job but you need to be rooted.
Just don't disconnect the charger when the battery reaches 100%. Keep it plugged in for another hour or so.
When pulling the plug as soon as the battery supposedly reaches 100%, my battery drops to 50% in no time, but when keeping the charger plugged in, I manage to get 3+ days with the exact same usage pattern (moderate usage on 3G with autosync on) out of the phone.
Finally activated my account. Can help you new guys out with this phone now. For charging my battery, I use an app called "Easy Battery Saver". Don't be mistaken, I only use it as a timer for when to unplug my phone.
Steps:
Drain your battery to somewhere like 15%.
Allow your device to cool off, perhaps for about 20-30 minutes?
Next, reboot your phone and see if the battery level is still below 15%, if its not, drain it again to below 15%.
Next, open "Easy Battery Saver" and just enable normal mode.
Plug in your phone to charge, and the "Fast Charge" bulb will turn yellow.
For me, I usually unplug my phone the moment the "Trickle Charge" bulb turns yellow.
I don't know for you guys, but trickle charhe scares me as I've seen some bad cases before.
Although the stock LG kernel might have prevented trickle charging, I'd still not risk it.
Finally, after you unplug your phone, ensure that you always drain it to 15% and below before performing a full charge. Please do not unplug or plug in your phone before 100% or below 15%.
In addition, it is not good to "heavily use your phone while charging.
Hope this helps. Just to let you guys know, I've been in this forum for ages, just that my account was bugged and I couldn't post anything. I have an adequate amount of knowledge for the phone, and if you can't understand some other tutorials, like somboon's from thailand, (don't blame him), feel free to send me a pm. I'll help you understand step by step.
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One way is to drain the battery until its finished then recharge it.
another is to download apps like this to do a better job but you need to be rooted.
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It's been told here on xda a thousand times: Deleting the batterystats.bin will NOT calibrate your battery or something. That file is created new every time you charge your phone. It's just for statistics. Proper calibration can only be done on hardware level, like on the Nexus One/Desire with the Nexus One Battery Calibration App. But that's not applicable for our devices. If your phone dies out too soon (mine does, too) it's most probably some bogus app that keeps the system awake. However, i didn't find out yet which one is the problem. Can those who deleted the LG apps confirm a higher capacity afterwards?
Someone told me that enabling of "GPU rendering" in developer settings saves a lot of battery and saves the phone processor.
Is it true?
smoke2 said:
Someone told me that enabling of "GPU rendering" in developer settings saves a lot of battery and saves the phone processor.
Is it true?
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It does, to a certain extent. However, from my knowledge, the best way is to under clock your phone using the LG Gearbox app in the development section.
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Xenogenics said:
It does, to a certain extent. However, from my knowledge, the best way is to under clock your phone using the LG Gearbox app in the development section.
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With the LG Gearbox i don't feel differents between quad and dual core.
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With the LG Gearbox i don't feel differents between quad and dual core.
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You won't because quad core is unnecessary. There's next to nothing that actually requires it so the cores just sit doing nothing
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battery drain
Im also getting battery drain without using the phone for nothing
I had 50% at noon without getting the fone , it keeping warm behind near flash
Gps off
data off
wifi off
Bluetooth off
My version is LG-P880-V10c-JUL-17-2012
kernel 2.6.39.4
xavierleonelbr said:
The battery in my P880 was lasting almost nothing! The percentage emptied fast! That's when I decided to calibrate the battery! Oh my god! Now is MUCH better.
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Im also getting battery drain without using the phone for nothing
I had 50% at noon without getting the fone , it keeping warm behind near flash
Gps off
data off
wifi off
Bluetooth off
My version is LG-P880-V10c-JUL-17-2012
kernel 2.6.39.4
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Why you still in V10F?
Have bluetooth OFF helps... GPS generaly is activated only when some app need it, soo, check the apps settings instead of turn OFF the GPS...
Wi-Fi you can set it to be ON only when you're using the phone, means that the screen turn OFF and the Wi-Fi too...
DATA is good to be OFF, even for you to spare some money.
Other apps can be draining your phone.
You need go know better the device and the apps, what resourses they use and how they work, then, decide what to do with them.
Steps:
Drain your battery to somewhere like 15%.
Allow your device to cool off, perhaps for about 20-30 minutes?
Next, reboot your phone and see if the battery level is still below 15%, if its not, drain it again to below 15%.
Next, open "Easy Battery Saver" and just enable normal mode.
Plug in your phone to charge, and the "Fast Charge" bulb will turn yellow.
For me, I usually unplug my phone the moment the "Trickle Charge" bulb turns yellow.
I don't know for you guys, but trickle charhe scares me as I've seen some bad cases before.
Although the stock LG kernel might have prevented trickle charging, I'd still not risk it.
Finally, after you unplug your phone, ensure that you always drain it to 15% and below before performing a full charge. Please do not unplug or plug in your phone before 100% or below 15%.
In addition, it is not good to "heavily use your phone while charging.
Hope this helps. Just to let you guys know, I've been in this forum for ages, just that my account was bugged and I couldn't post anything. I have an adequate amount of knowledge for the phone, and if you can't understand some other tutorials, like somboon's from thailand, (don't blame him), feel free to send me a pm. I'll help you understand step by step.
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I did try that and not working at all, my phone drain battery for nothing, even than i didnt use my phone it keep drain battery, so i drain my battery to absolute zero when phone turn off because battery is too low, and i pluged to charger for whole night and so far im on 3rd day(2 days 15hours 30mins) and still 30% remain, and i use my phone for some calls, text, internet,
mine drops 10% all day if i dont touch it ,easily lasts all day and night with normal use
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I did try that and not working at all, my phone drain battery for nothing, even than i didnt use my phone it keep drain battery, so i drain my battery to absolute zero when phone turn off because battery is too low, and i pluged to charger for whole night and so far im on 3rd day(2 days 15hours 30mins) and still 30% remain, and i use my phone for some calls, text, internet,
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Tried this one but battery keeps on draining (me too)
Brower facebook and tapatalk for about 20 minutes nothing else. Dropped 8% . I also killed my battery yesterday watching a movie and playing a game took a total of 3 hours. What do you guys think.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
No, if it dies that fast then it's user error.
Install betterbatterystats and look for wakelocks.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
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How do I cycle?
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horr1blek1tten said:
How do I cycle?
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let it go from 100 to 0 a few times, when i first got the phone my battery was pretty bad but after a couple weeks im getting 20+hours on a single charge =D
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Jme369 said:
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Running your battery from 100% to 0% is useful in recalibrating the battery in the event of cell mismatches, which can happen over time.
horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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u need to calibrate your battery like the guy above said by using your phone for a few days
horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Here's a very good post for information about li-ion / lithium polymer batteries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40596097&postcount=3
You generally shouldn't need to recalibrate the battery on a new phone (since it's a new battery), but it doesn't hurt if you think your battery may be mis-calibrated. (for example, your phone sits at 0% battery for long amounts of time) Do you have any apps that monitor wakelocks on your phone?
i was complaining my battery was crap yesterday. iv gained 1 hour in battery since yesterday.
GSam reported 9hours 24mins avg battery yesterday. I cycled it once since then and today its showing 10 hours 38mins avg.
Hoping for further improvements.
The phone needs to know where empty and full battery is. I've always calibrated mine by fully charging and killing at least twice with every phone I've owned and had no il effects and got much better battery life afterwards.
So do I calibrate or cycle? If so, how do I do that? Im fully stock and the only battery app I have is the battery guru made for snapdragon devices. Idk if that's what's killing my battery.
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It does no harm to run the battery to 0% occasionally, but the advice i have seen is to try to not run li-ion / li-po batteries below 10% too often as that can shorten their life.
For a new device i would run it down to around 10% with normal use, then give it a real long charge till it indicates fully charged, then unplug it and wait a minute or so then plug it back in and leave it on charge another couple of hours to make sure it is fully 100% charged.
After you have done this whole procedure maybe 3 times, you should have a properley conditioned battery. My HTC One is usually at 50% or better after a 12 hour working day, so i am more than happy with the battery life.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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exactly!
Basically just use your phone for about a week, then you can start fixing it
My experience and questions
Thanks for this excellent post! I got my new HTC One day before yesterday and like the Vincent's post says, the phone had about 40-50% of charge when it came in the box. I was very excited to see the phone that I totally forgot about recalibration of the battery
I used the phone out of the box, and I have charged from 2 nights (from about 15% to 100% charge) and haven't run the battery the battery down to 0% yet (when I say 0% what I mean is the level of charge when the phone automatically turns itself off to protect from complete discharge). My questions below:
1) What should I do now to accurately calibrate my battery life? When I called HTC customer service today they asked me to do battery reset (steps below).
- Untick the quick boot under settings -> power
- Turn off the phone
- Hold down the volume up, volume down and the power button continuously for 1 minute (the phone seem to boot up and shut down 3-4 times during this process)
- Run your battery all the way down to 0% and then charge it fully to 100%
This seems to be a fair procedure but since it was told by customer service, I'm a bit skeptical. So I would very much love to hear some opinion of battery gurus here
2) Does the 2 night charging that I did affect my battery capacity (has the dent been made already)?
Please let me know, and thanks in advance!
PS. The battery life in my experience in the past 2 days has been decent (I have about 20% from 7am - 9pm) and I'm a moderate-heavy user!
i recently bought my Samsung galaxy s3 mini and i loved it instantly but i quickly noticed that my battery discharges way too soon even without using it(on screen lock) and on top of that if the battery dies before i get the chance to charge it the time resets to January 2012. i have tried all the different apps out there to help with the battery like deep sleep battery saver, battery guard or smth also a bunch of task killers but no luck so far. please if anyone has a more permanent solution other than carrying a spare battery HELP!! i'm desperate. :crying:
P.S i have a couple of screen shots of the discharge graph thingy if necessary
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i recently bought my Samsung galaxy s3 mini and i loved it instantly but i quickly noticed that my battery discharges way too soon even without using it(on screen lock) and on top of that if the battery dies before i get the chance to charge it the time resets to January 2012. i have tried all the different apps out there to help with the battery like deep sleep battery saver, battery guard or smth also a bunch of task killers but no luck so far. please if anyone has a more permanent solution other than carrying a spare battery HELP!! i'm desperate. :crying:
P.S i have a couple of screen shots of the discharge graph thingy if necessary
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download BBS and check what is draining your battery
btw, task killers drain more battery than not using one
Mine will be stuck at bootanime when my battetry dies. So i dont let it die.
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AssToast said:
download BBS and check what is draining your battery
btw, task killers drain more battery than not using one
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my battery life is getting so much worst now it's down to 4hrs with moderate use(no wifi and no gps). even my laptop stays longer. so i downloaded BBS from ur xda page. i tried it but i can't make sense of it all. i was hoping u could take a look at the dump file.
i also uploaded some screen shots...please help
mercygw said:
my battery life is getting so much worst now it's down to 4hrs with moderate use(no wifi and no gps). even my laptop stays longer. so i downloaded BBS from ur xda page. i tried it but i can't make sense of it all. i was hoping u could take a look at the dump file.
i also uploaded some screen shots...please help
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I think your battery is defective because there is nothing wrong with the BBS stats
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I think your battery is defective because there is nothing wrong with the BBS stats
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so after a few weeks of posting that my battery has now expanded. it kinda looks pregnant n i'm lucky if i get two hrs out of it. do u have any suggestions on where to buy original Samsung batteries online.
mercygw said:
so after a few weeks of posting that my battery has now expanded. it kinda looks pregnant n i'm lucky if i get two hrs out of it. do u have any suggestions on where to buy original Samsung batteries online.
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Not sure if batteries are included in warranty claims but did you try taking it back to the shop?
you can google around, not sure where you live
https://www.google.com/search?newwi...3.0....0...1c.1.26.serp..4.12.925.3S0AW_MsvxY
Hi All,
My battery is lasting for over an hour at 1%. This makes me think that the battery isn't calibrated properly, but the methods I've seen posted for recalibrating my battery haven't worked. Here is what I've tried:
Use phone until it shuts down automatically from low battery
With phone still turned off, charge it until it reaches 100% (about 4 hours)
Turn phone on and use it normally
I've tried doing this method twice in a row, but I'm still having the same issue. I don't remember having this issue when I first bought the phone, although I also made the mistake of not fully charging the phone before I started using it.
Any suggestions for fixing this issue? I don't want to root my phone as I don't have a stable computer (random BSOD) and I'm afraid of bricking it. Thanks!
Lasting an hour on standby.... Or using the phone?
I drain at around 1 percent an hour on standby, and some have even less drain than that.... So if that's mostly stand by you're talking.... It's probably not an issue.
If that's an hour at 1 percent mostly using the phone, then yeah... That ain't right. Lol
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Lasting an hour on standby.... Or using the phone?
I drain at around 1 percent an hour on standby, and some have even less drain than that.... So if that's mostly stand by you're talking.... It's probably not an issue.
If that's an hour at 1 percent mostly using the phone, then yeah... That ain't right. Lol
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Lasting an hour while using the phone.
Yeah... That ain't right.
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Any ideas on a fix? I've had the phone for over a month now so I don't think its possible to return it to Verizon at this point.
kdog349 said:
Any ideas on a fix? I've had the phone for over a month now so I don't think its possible to return it to Verizon at this point.
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only thing I could think of, are you rooted? if so, have you made any mods? If not, RSD it back to stock..
If you're getting good battery life I wouldn't worry much about it.
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xpsychox said:
only thing I could think of, are you rooted? if so, have you made any mods? If not, RSD it back to stock..
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I am not rooted. Whats RSD?
kj2112 said:
If you're getting good battery life I wouldn't worry much about it.
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My phone has decent battery life, I typically see 2-3hrs SOT. Not sure how people get 5+ hrs.
The main problem is that when my phone gets low battery I never know when its going to die, since it stays at 1% for so long. A little stressful when I'm doing navigation in a new area, so I'd really like to fix it
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Here's a pic of my battery stats that were particularly bad. I think in this one exchange services was eating the battery, but android OS is usually the primary battery consumer.
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Sorry to say, but that's horrible battery life. I'd suggest you read through the battery life thread. Tonnes of stuff there to read and probably help.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418077
Here it is. I'd read it all when you have the time.
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KJ,
Those pics are unusual usage I would say, but they do illustrate the 1% issue. I'm coming straight from the VZW galaxy nexus so anything over 2hrs SOT seemed awesome to me haha.
Thanks for the tips, I'll check out the thread soon.
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kdog349 said:
I am not rooted. Whats RSD?
My phone has decent battery life, I typically see 2-3hrs SOT. Not sure how people get 5+ hrs.
The main problem is that when my phone gets low battery I never know when its going to die, since it stays at 1% for so long. A little stressful when I'm doing navigation in a new area, so I'd really like to fix it
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If u don't no what red is I wouldn't worry about it... I would try a factory reset on ur phone..
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sometimes it takes your phone one or two cycles to cache up the battery stats. but I would agree that the battery stats file is probably corrupted. i think you might be able to enter the stock recovery mode (without root) and wipe the battery stats. but I'm new to this phone - just talking from prior experiences.
So Sad:crying:
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sometimes it takes your phone one or two cycles to cache up the battery stats. but I would agree that the battery stats file is probably corrupted. i think you might be able to enter the stock recovery mode (without root) and wipe the battery stats. but I'm new to this phone - just talking from prior experiences.
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I looked through the recovery mode and didn't see an option for clearing battery stats.
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Still reading through the battery thread before I make a decision, but it sounds like doing a factory reset might be a good option. Looks like a lot of people are also experiencing high android OS usage.
I'm having the same issue and similar battery stats. I've been on 1% for well over and hour now and never get over 2 hours screen on time.
I've tried several things over the last few days and nothing seems to improve. Curious where you're personally going to go from here. Please keep me updated...
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I'm having the same issue and similar battery stats. I've been on 1% for well over and hour now and never get over 2 hours screen on time.
I've tried several things over the last few days and nothing seems to improve. Curious where you're personally going to go from here. Please keep me updated...
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Read through the "how's your battery life" thread....tonnes of help already there for battery issues.
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I have. And since I'm having the exact same issue as the OP I would like to see if he finds something that works for him.
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I just noticed that Google Keep has had my phone awake for 44m 3s.
That sounds ridiculously abnormal for a note taking app...
Hey Guys,
ever since the 5.1 Update to my Moto X I have been having the same strange bug reported here: Early in the evening it will tell me my battery is about to die (1%) but the phone will still run for hours (not one.... the whole night actually) - see screenshot. This occured together with the famours bug where Android updates its apps if the phone booted while charging. I have of course done a whipe - two times actually. Any idea?
I keep noticing my battery will last hours on 1% charge. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon on their phone?
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I've noticed it on a rather old device, a htc desire hd. (running a custom 4.4.2 rom) It lastest so long on 1%.
Probarly you need to re-calibrate your battery, after that it shouldn't get stuck on 1% anymore for such a long time
Jamolah said:
I keep noticing my battery will last hours on 1% charge. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon on their phone?
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Once a month I recalibrate my battery, and it will sit on 1% for hours some times, and then only minutes the next it just depends. Just let it die then charge it to 100% uninterrupted. Normally they get uncalibrated after rom flashes and if you put it on a charger but don't let it charge to 100%.
I haven't put any ROMs on my phone. I'm still on stock Rogers rom.
How do I re-calibrate my battery?
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I haven't put any ROMs on my phone. I'm still on stock Rogers rom.
How do I re-calibrate my battery?
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Let it die completely then let it charge to 100% before you turn it back on, that's my process.
This keeps happening to me too. Battery drains quickly then stays at 1% for several hours. Lasted at 1% for 4 hours yesterday. I've done the "let drain until powers off and charge to 100" a couple times now but it still happens
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iKrYpToNiTe said:
Let it die completely then let it charge to 100% before you turn it back on, that's my process.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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oeusr said:
This keeps happening to me too. Battery drains quickly then stays at 1% for several hours. Lasted at 1% for 4 hours yesterday. I've done the "let drain until powers off and charge to 100" a couple times now but it still happens
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Hmm that's odd never had that issue, I rarely go below 50% during the day.
jakereeves31 said:
I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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It is if you do it every time, but not if you do it once a month or after a rom install.
jakereeves31 said:
I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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When your phone dies, the battery doesn't completely die. Phones shut down before the battery is completely depleted in order to save a little bit of the battery. So if you let the phone shut down from low power and then charge it back up there shouldn't be any ill effects.
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danny39 said:
When your phone dies, the battery doesn't completely die. Phones shut down before the battery is completely depleted in order to save a little bit of the battery. So if you let the phone shut down from low power and then charge it back up there shouldn't be any ill effects.
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Yeah, I know that, but I was just saying what I've always heard from people
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jakereeves31 said:
Yeah, I know that, but I was just saying what I've always heard from people
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This article is old but it explains why you shouldn't fully discharge a lithium-ion battery often! http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
batteries don't fully discharge even when the phones dies as an above poster pointed out. If you were to let it die then leave it that way for a few weeks is when you will start to have problems. the lower the battery percentage is before charging is correlated with how many cycles your battery has. So draining to 70% then charging is better than draining to 30% then charging. The point in draining to 0 isn't to prolong the battery but to recalibrate the software determining what the percentage of the battery is. This will not have any worse of an impact on your battery then letting it drain to 10% then charging. Batteries may actually still have up 20% left when you fully discharge them because manufacturers don't want your battery to ever actually reach 0.
If you never discharge down to "0%" then charge to 100% then your phone can never properly calibrate your battery drain. It is always a guessing game for the software so doing a full discharge cycle gives it an updated benchmark to guess off of. The effects to the battery are not that big of a deal. If you read up enough on them you will find that to be true.
when the battery gets hot, that has a much bigger effect on its life than draining it to 0. But clearly if you drain to 0 every day then that will have a huge impact on battery life because you may only get 300 cycles out of it where as you might get 3000 if you only drained to 70% every day. (rough estimates, there is real data out there regarding then if you want to know the real numbers).
jayboyyyy said:
batteries don't fully discharge even when the phones dies as an above poster pointed out. If you were to let it die then leave it that way for a few weeks is when you will start to have problems. the lower the battery percentage is before charging is correlated with how many cycles your battery has. So draining to 70% then charging is better than draining to 30% then charging. The point in draining to 0 isn't to prolong the battery but to recalibrate the software determining what the percentage of the battery is. This will not have any worse of an impact on your battery then letting it drain to 10% then charging. Batteries may actually still have up 20% left when you fully discharge them because manufacturers don't want your battery to ever actually reach 0.
If you never discharge down to "0%" then charge to 100% then your phone can never properly calibrate your battery drain. It is always a guessing game for the software so doing a full discharge cycle gives it an updated benchmark to guess off of. The effects to the battery are not that big of a deal. If you read up enough on them you will find that to be true.
when the battery gets hot, that has a much bigger effect on its life than draining it to 0. But clearly if you drain to 0 every day then that will have a huge impact on battery life because you may only get 300 cycles out of it where as you might get 3000 if you only drained to 70% every day. (rough estimates, there is real data out there regarding then if you want to know the real numbers).
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I couldn't have paraphrased that article any better nice!
I've noticed this in my Moto X. 1% lasts for a long time lol. Not that it's a bad thing but a little inaccurate if you ask me.
Ever since I've bought my Moto X, I've always let it die a few times then have charged it to 100% (full cycle) but it's not made any difference. Sounds like it's a bug in the software to me.
Wutang200 said:
I've noticed this in my Moto X. 1% lasts for a long time lol. Not that it's a bad thing but a little inaccurate if you ask me.
Ever since I've bought my Moto X, I've always let it die a few times then have charged it to 100% (full cycle) but it's not made any difference. Sounds like it's a bug in the software to me.
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did you charge it to 100% without turning it on? there may be battery stats (in a folder i can't remember but you can look it up) that you can delete to cause it to relearn battery level but i have read elsewhere that that theory is a myth and won't actually do anything.
IDK the logistics behind leaving your phone off, i just know i have done it both ways and it seems something else calibrates the battery when it is off that is not the android OS i guess but is the root level software for the phone or the bootloader or something. Im sure someone smarter than i could give a better explanation of the possible difference.
I've experienced the same thing on my Moto X.
Something tells me that it's somehow related to poor battery life... But that's just expeculation.
jayboyyyy said:
did you charge it to 100% without turning it on? there may be battery stats (in a folder i can't remember but you can look it up) that you can delete to cause it to relearn battery level but i have read elsewhere that that theory is a myth and won't actually do anything.
IDK the logistics behind leaving your phone off, i just know i have done it both ways and it seems something else calibrates the battery when it is off that is not the android OS i guess but is the root level software for the phone or the bootloader or something. Im sure someone smarter than i could give a better explanation of the possible difference.
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I always leave the phone off when charging fully. Have tried with it on too but same results.
Wutang200 said:
I always leave the phone off when charging fully. Have tried with it on too but same results.
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search around for the place where the battery stats are located. I think the file just may be in the cache but I know i read somewhere at some point about the location where the software stores its battery stats so that it can guess what your battery percentage is. Search for that and clear that folder out and see if it helps. I would do this right before my phone was about to die at 1% then do the cycle if i were you. But that is just how i would go about things.
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search around for the place where the battery stats are located. I think the file just may be in the cache but I know i read somewhere at some point about the location where the software stores its battery stats so that it can guess what your battery percentage is. Search for that and clear that folder out and see if it helps. I would do this right before my phone was about to die at 1% then do the cycle if i were you. But that is just how i would go about things.
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I've heard people say that the stats reset themselves at 100%. But that's just what I've heard. Haha
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jakereeves31 said:
I've heard people say that the stats reset themselves at 100%. But that's just what I've heard. Haha
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ya like i said earlier, i also did read that deleting that folder was pointless but who knows. If my phone was continuing to do what yours is then i would be trying all sorts of things that people said wouldn't work. Then i would throw the phone into beer, bc i can, bc this thing is pretty much waterproof as anything. SOmebody submerged the thing in water for 30 minutes and it was still running. So maybe throw your phone in beer as a last resort.