Is there a physical difference between Sprint HTC Ones and ATT HTC ones?
What I am trying to ask is do they have a physical factory preset as to which phone accepts the different frequency technologies or is it all just software and firmware that affects the phone?
Sorry if this is a dumb question I just have never been clear on that subject.:silly:
bongo264 said:
Is there a physical difference between Sprint HTC Ones and ATT HTC ones?
What I am trying to ask is do they have a physical factory preset as to which phone accepts the different frequency technologies or is it all just software and firmware that affects the phone?
Sorry if this is a dumb question I just have never been clear on that subject.:silly:
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There are several hardware differences between the devices including but not limited to radios.
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as of now the only difference between dev edition and regular edition is the 64 gb? (assuming i unlock the bootloader myself)
also can anyone confirm if the differences between US/EU/ASIA models in the radio bands is due to different hardware or to software limitations?
more to the point, if i buy the europeane model, could i be able to flash the asian radio to get the 850 mhz 3g band?
pls can anyone answer :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed: especially the second Q.
i searched the forums but havn't found an answer
There's no way to do that so far...
avivot54 said:
as of now the only difference between dev edition and regular edition is the 64 gb? (assuming i unlock the bootloader myself)
also can anyone confirm if the differences between US/EU/ASIA models in the radio bands is due to different hardware or to software limitations?
more to the point, if i buy the europeane model, could i be able to flash the asian radio to get the 850 mhz 3g band?
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yes you can, in theory...
thanks. i wonder if anybody tried it or something similiar...
avivot54 said:
thanks. i wonder if anybody tried it or something similiar...
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don't think so but it is very easy, you only need to flash the proper radio.zip into recovery and you're done..
avivot54 said:
thanks. i wonder if anybody tried it or something similiar...
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It won't work. Check the international forum of HTC One here at xda. There are already countless people flashing a EU variant radio on their AT&T, T-Mobile & Asian variants HTC One yet the frequencies still remain the same.
thanks.
I really wish that htc had made it easier to get a hold of this device. most people can't get the 64gb developer's as it's obtainable only in the u.s.
and all the other editions are currently very scarce, and hard to find. and even if you find one, it may not work proparly with your carrier. not to mention that if you travel alot this device won't do because of the different bands in each country.
i appolagize for the rant, but it's really frustuating, i really wanted to buy the htc one.
avivot54 said:
thanks.
I really wish that htc had made it easier to get a hold of this device. most people can't get the 64gb developer's as it's obtainable only in the u.s.
and all the other editions are currently very scarce, and hard to find. and even if you find one, it may not work proparly with your carrier. not to mention that if you travel alot this device won't do because of the different bands in each country.
i appolagize for the rant, but it's really frustuating, i really wanted to buy the htc one.
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The Dev edition is only needed in the US.
Which phones support more frequency bands than the One?
I'm unable to find an HTC One with a microSD card slot... I'm on Verizon, and they only have the 32GB internal memory version, which isn't enough to fit my music and everything else. I did read on Wikipedia that they're in the Japan/China models, so if you know one way or another whether any US versions have it, I'd love to know.
Otherwise if I can get an unlocked/developer/Play edition to work with a Verizon SIM, I'd love to know how to do that too!
Also, I'm trying to find out if I can lower the resolution to 720p (pixels) to save battery (which brought me here to begin with). I haven't read in any reviews that it's possible, but back in the day I read of a setting in developer options to change the DPI (or PPI?) to change the resolution, but I'm not seeing that in my current phone's developer options (or not recognizing it).
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I'm unable to find an HTC One with a microSD card slot... I'm on Verizon, and they only have the 32GB internal memory version, which isn't enough to fit my music and everything else. I did read on Wikipedia that they're in the Japan/China models, so if you know one way or another whether any US versions have it, I'd love to know.
Otherwise if I can get an unlocked/developer/Play edition to work with a Verizon SIM, I'd love to know how to do that too!
Also, I'm trying to find out if I can lower the resolution to 720p (pixels) to save battery (which brought me here to begin with). I haven't read in any reviews that it's possible, but back in the day I read of a setting in developer options to change the DPI (or PPI?) to change the resolution, but I'm not seeing that in my current phone's developer options (or not recognizing it).
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there is no htc one version that have a sd card slot. Only the Japanese and Chinese variant (HTL22/HTC J One)
If you are going to use the phone with Verizon, then you can not use another phone variants, you must use the phone sold by verizon. Verizon is a CDMA carrier and uses CDMA variant of the Htc one. All other variant are GSM (unlocked htc one, dev edition etc)
Lowering the screen resolution doesnt make sense to me, there a lot of other ways you can save battery.
China / India dual SIM + card slot models have cdma but you need to verify network bandwidth
Other options HTC One m8 with card slot or a new version of m7 exclusive for Verizon HTC One Remix with card slot
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there is no htc one version that have a sd card slot. Only the Japanese and Chinese variant (HTL22/HTC J One)
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That sounds contradictory but I already mentioned that I saw there's a Japan/China version with a microSD card slot.
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If you are going to use the phone with Verizon, then you can not use another phone variants, you must use the phone sold by verizon. Verizon is a CDMA carrier and uses CDMA variant of the Htc one. All other variant are GSM (unlocked htc one, dev edition etc)
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OK, that's helpful, but I've seen specs that include "3G" with frequencies that match Verizon's CDMA and that also say "LTE" that match Verizon's frequencies, so I'm concerned that either the specs aren't completely accurate for the USA or that Verizon just hasn't certified any other version than the one on their site (though I can't tell if they sold the 64GB variant previously that I could find somewhere else).
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Lowering the screen resolution doesnt make sense to me, there a lot of other ways you can save battery.
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Lowering the screen resolution is an acceptable loss for the battery/CPU gain (considering I can barely tell the difference in my Moto X and Droid RAZR MAXX under normal usage and most phone screens look fine to me; I grew up with Asteroids and Super Mario Bros so I kind of have a love for pixels). Most other battery-saver tips include things I actually want to use.
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That sounds contradictory but I already mentioned that I saw there's a Japan/China version with a microSD card slot.
OK, that's helpful, but I've seen specs that include "3G" with frequencies that match Verizon's CDMA and that also say "LTE" that match Verizon's frequencies, so I'm concerned that either the specs aren't completely accurate for the USA or that Verizon just hasn't certified any other version than the one on their site (though I can't tell if they sold the 64GB variant previously that I could find somewhere else).
Lowering the screen resolution is an acceptable loss for the battery/CPU gain (considering I can barely tell the difference in my Moto X and Droid RAZR MAXX under normal usage and most phone screens look fine to me; I grew up with Asteroids and Super Mario Bros so I kind of have a love for pixels). Most other battery-saver tips include things I actually want to use.
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Why not buying another phone with already a sd card slot and a 720p screen? Better to pay for something that fit your needs. You will pay for that 1080 display but you'll not use it. Maybe you should consider another model like the desire 601 or something similar...?
alray said:
Why not buying another phone with already a sd card slot and a 720p screen? Better to pay for something that fit your needs. You will pay for that 1080 display but you'll not use it. Maybe you should consider another model like the desire 601 or something similar...?
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Yah, I've been looking at other phones, and every one of them are missing some key thing I need; for instance, the HTC One looks perfect except that the 64GB version is not available on Verizon and it has no microSD card slot. The M8 is huge for my hands and has the headphone jack on the bottom which makes it difficult or impossible with docks; the Remix has less of a processor and battery than the Moto X; Verizon has less choice than the other carriers so this whole process is just difficult, which is why I'm asking how to config certain software things to get what I want.
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Yah, I've been looking at other phones, and every one of them are missing some key thing I need; for instance, the HTC One looks perfect except that the 64GB version is not available on Verizon and it has no microSD card slot. The M8 is huge for my hands and has the headphone jack on the bottom which makes it difficult or impossible with docks; the Remix has less of a processor and battery than the Moto X; Verizon has less choice than the other carriers so this whole process is just difficult, which is why I'm asking how to config certain software things to get what I want.
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If verizon doesnt have a phone that fits your needs then check other carriers.
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Yah, I've been looking at other phones, and every one of them are missing some key thing I need; for instance, the HTC One looks perfect except that the 64GB version is not available on Verizon and it has no microSD card slot. The M8 is huge for my hands and has the headphone jack on the bottom which makes it difficult or impossible with docks; the Remix has less of a processor and battery than the Moto X; Verizon has less choice than the other carriers so this whole process is just difficult, which is why I'm asking how to config certain software things to get what I want.
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The Droid MaXX has most all the features you want and is on Android 4.4.4 already. Unfortunately this is no Root for it yet though
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Why not buying another phone with already a sd card slot and a 720p screen? Better to pay for something that fit your needs. You will pay for that 1080 display but you'll not use it. Maybe you should consider another model like the desire 601 or something similar...?
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We're going in circles on this. I've already described what I'm looking for and I haven't found it yet.
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If verizon doesnt have a phone that fits your needs then check other carriers.
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Yah, I know, like that hasn't occurred to me. Not exactly the easiest option, which is why I'm asking for software workarounds.
This is XDA after all, isn't it? I haven't seen one reply yet saying how to lower the resolution on any phone.
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The Droid MaXX has most all the features you want and is on Android 4.4.4 already. Unfortunately this is no Root for it yet though
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Yes, I know, and Verizon only sells the 16GB version, and I already tried buying two 32GB versions online and they were stolen phones that couldn't be activated. Luckily I got my money back, but I'm not doing that again. Plus the Droid Maxx does not have convenient accessories.
It looks like the Moto X is going to by the keeper until I can figure out how to lower the resolution on the M8 to save battery, which I'm guessing requires root.
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Yes, I know, and Verizon only sells the 16GB version, and I already tried buying two 32GB versions online and they were stolen phones that couldn't be activated. Luckily I got my money back, but I'm not doing that again. Plus the Droid Maxx does not have convenient accessories.
It looks like the Moto X is going to by the keeper until I can figure out how to lower the resolution on the M8 to save battery, which I'm guessing requires root.
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I can tell you first hand the MotoX is nothing compared to a HTC One M7 their not in the same league. The only 2 phones I would consider over an M7 are the LG G2/G3 and a Nexus 5... Maybe a Note 3 if it's a really sweat deal
Well I have been told that my Sprint version of my HTC ONE M7 wont ever be able to act like and international version, well why cant it ?
If its a partition problem cant we just modify it? just like sdmerge400 modified the partitions of LG e400s ????
I would like if someone would make a mod for this stuff (As my phone is unlocked and i have been told that GSM is now enabled. Source: Sprint Rep.)
And a fact is that both have the exact same RF chip the difference being that sprint has locked down its phons to CDMA only , Which is unlocked by carrier unlocking (That I have already done )
So i think it must be possible!
(PSardon me, I have made posts like this before but this one is a little bit different.)
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And a fact is that both have the exact same RF chip the difference being that sprint has locked down its phons to CDMA only , Which is unlocked by carrier unlocking (That I have already done )
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Um.... Not entirely sure that's right. You'll want to double check the frequencies for the Sprint M7. Any CDMA band frequencies cannot be used for GSM or LTE purposes.
At least, that is what I was told.
Unlocking your phone will allow you to use the built in GSM functions of your M7, but the CDMA frequencies will remain inaccessible. My $0.02? See if someone wants to trade their international One for a Sprint One (lmao good luck), or sell it and buy an international One.
DarkStar911 said:
Well I have been told that my Sprint version of my HTC ONE M7 wont ever be able to act like and international version, well why cant it ?
If its a partition problem cant we just modify it? just like sdmerge400 modified the partitions of LG e400s ????
I would like if someone would make a mod for this stuff (As my phone is unlocked and i have been told that GSM is now enabled. Source: Sprint Rep.)
And a fact is that both have the exact same RF chip the difference being that sprint has locked down its phons to CDMA only , Which is unlocked by carrier unlocking (That I have already done )
So i think it must be possible!
(PSardon me, I have made posts like this before but this one is a little bit different.)
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Sprint M7 cannot be converted to International M7.
Modem chipset is different. Firmware is different.
GSM unlock on sprint m7 is meant only for out of US gsm carrier Some people had success in using it on US based gsm carriers
Max you can do is modify xml files so your phone shows network options like in GSM models.
What is required to convert the Sprint HTC one M8 to the normal Developer edition?
I have already gone through the forum and found that there are definitely some differences related to partitions, radio mainly. I have also seen that we can unlock the GSM band and get it working with a SIM card.
One persion did try to convert to GPE as a normal HTC one M8 but resulted in almost loosing his phone(Link)
What I'm asking is, would it be possible to alter these partitions and make the phone completely Developer Edition? Radio band obviously cannot be added(only unlocked). So that we can make this function as any other M8.
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What is required to convert the Sprint HTC one M8 to the normal Developer edition?....So that we can make this function as any other M8.
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The only requirement would be to replace the mainboard with another from an Int’l/AT&T/T-Mobile/Dev. Ed/GPE device.
In other words, it can be done, but it would easier to buy a device made for your region.
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The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle said:
The only requirement would be to replace the mainboard with another from an Int’l/AT&T/T-Mobile/Dev. Ed/GPE device.
In other words, it can be done, but it would easier to buy a device made for your region.
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Well that's one way to do that, but it would be easier to get a new phone than change the motherboard on this thing.
However, since people have figured out so much related to the band unlocking via QPST and fixing the 3G. I was hoping maybe the memory could be mapped and changes can be made. Though it may not be as easy as it sounds.
And how can this be achieved i.e any software that would do the trick, or do we require to open up the device and connect directly to mainboard etc.
Hi! I want to know that a HTC One m7 dual sim (m7cdug) can be changed into m7 single sim (GSM) variant without the dual sim capability.
Any help would be appreciated
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Hi! I want to know that a HTC One m7 dual sim (m7cdug) can be changed into m7 single sim (GSM) variant without the dual sim capability.
Any help would be appreciated
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What is your question exactly? Can a dual sim M7 run the single sim software/firmware? No it can't.
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What is your question exactly? Can a dual sim M7 run the single sim software/firmware? No it can't.
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No, I want to know by changing its radio as well would allow to install m7 software. I don't care about second sim and I think that would work since there hardware is almost same.
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No, I want to know by changing its radio as well would allow to install m7 software
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That was exactly what I was saying above: No you can't use software/firmware made for the single sim variant on your dual sim variant.
I think that would work since there hardware is almost same
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There are some similarities but hardware speaking, these are 2 completely different phones. For example the M7_U is almost exactly the same as a M7_UL, the only difference is the radio chip being a MDM8215 instead of a MDM9215 and they can both accept each other software/firmware. Your variant is equipped with different radio chip(s?), different motherboard and who know what else... Yes they might share the same lcd, cameras, SoC and they have the same commercial name but it's 2 different phones...
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That was exactly what I was saying above: No you can't use software/firmware made for the single sim variant on your dual sim variant.
There are some similarities but hardware speaking, these are 2 completely different phones. For example the M7_U is almost exactly the same as a M7_UL, the only difference is the radio chip being a MDM8215 instead of a MDM9215 and they can both accept each other software/firmware. Your variant is equipped with different radio chip(s?), different motherboard and who know what else... Yes they might share the same lcd, cameras, SoC and they have the same commercial name but it's 2 different phones...
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Well thank you for clarifying the problem but is there any way to port m7 software/firmware to m7 dual sim
Thanks in advance ?
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Well thank you for clarifying the problem but is there any way to port m7 software/firmware to m7 dual sim
Thanks in advance ?
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A developer could most likely port recent software (rom) to the dual sim. There were a few old custom roms ported to the dial sim variant in the early days of the M7 but nothing new for a while. Development of this variant is pretty much inexistant now. You'd have better luck to find something for this variant on Asian forums... Firmware is designed for the specific hardware of that phone.