Hi,
I was really looking forward to getting a Windows 8 Phone, but I have read reports that WP8 won't support PPTP VPN?
Can anyone confirm this 100%?
If it is disabled would it still work if I connected my Nexus 7 via the tethering option on the WP8?
Thanks!
VPN is not supported on WP8
desitunez said:
VPN is not supported on WP8
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Thanks for the confirmation
desitunez said:
VPN is not supported on WP8
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Is that not supported period, or not supported until someone makes a 3rd party app like Cisco or something?
Dave
Nikumba said:
Is that not supported period, or not supported until someone makes a 3rd party app like Cisco or something?
Dave
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http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-windows-phone-8-whats-new-for-business-users-7000006605/
"Don't forget: There's no VPN support in Windows Phone 8. Microsoft decided to go the secure SSL route instead."-From Article.
desitunez said:
http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-windows-phone-8-whats-new-for-business-users-7000006605/
"Don't forget: There's no VPN support in Windows Phone 8. Microsoft decided to go the secure SSL route instead."-From Article.
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Well that's me not buying a WP8 device then as I do need to use traditional VPN now and then.
Kimbie
I have a Nokia Lumia 920; love it very much but no VPN support in the OS.
Come on, Microsoft: Two years is a long enough time to develop VPN support! I almost switched to a Galaxy Note but found the WP interface better and decided to give WP8 a chance. No luck yet with WP8 either.
I now have to carry an Asus/Google Nexus 7 and tether with Lumia 920 in case I need to connect to my employer's network via VPN--and VPN does work fine. I can live with the existing arrangement for now--Nexus 7 literally fits in my pocket. But I would rather not carry two devices.
Mitsosoft promised support VPN later.
Nescoffe said:
Mitsosoft promised support VPN later.
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They promised nothing, its rumor.
Hi,
i just flash updated my nexus 4 to support multiuser restricted profiles on my phone.
just found out that windows has a patent for multiuser profiles on phone and we won't be receiving it officially.
so is there any custom ROM development going on to support this feature on the NEXUS 4, if not i want to request it!
(can we do that?? (N00b!):silly
scoupdogg said:
Hi,
i just flash updated my nexus 4 to support multiuser restricted profiles on my phone.
just found out that windows has a patent for multiuser profiles on phone and we won't be receiving it officially.
so is there any custom ROM development going on to support this feature on the NEXUS 4, if not i want to request it!
(can we do that?? (N00b!):silly
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-phones-offers-hope-for-future-functionality/
oh , and i think Nokia actually owns that patent not Microsoft (Windows is an operating system).
rayiskon said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-phones-offers-hope-for-future-functionality/
oh , and i think Nokia actually owns that patent not Microsoft (Windows is an operating system).
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I guess that makes sense.
I don't really see the point of such a feature on a phone anyway. Unless you share your phone with someone, which I highly doubt, considering you own a highend smartphone.
vanmarek said:
I guess that makes sense.
I don't really see the point of such a feature on a phone anyway. Unless you share your phone with someone, which I highly doubt, considering you own a highend smartphone.
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yep nokia, my bad, and this feature might be useful with my friends! (most of them dont have a smartphone so they attack me )
Another stupid patent that should have never been issued, or should no longer apply to modern smart phones. Today's smart phones are not phones, but micro-computers with phone capability. How many computers are not capable of multiple user accounts?
Solutions Etcetera said:
Another stupid patent that should have never been issued, or should no longer apply to modern smart phones. Today's smart phones are not phones, but micro-computers with phone capability. How many computers are not capable of multiple user accounts?
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lol apple ipad!! XD
Hi,
Well, if it makes more sense to activate that setting on a tablet than on a phone, I must say that, almost every time we are in the car for a (even mildly) long trip, the kids ask to play on my phone...
What bothers me is 2 things :
- 1°) they install a lot of things that I do not want as personal use ;
- 2°) they both want to play the same game but can only have 1 for both, so, supposing it's a game to build a village, they play on the others village...
So, even though I understand the reason, I think that multi-user DOES make sense, even on a phone !
Regards.
NexusPenguin
I think there is an app that provide that feature.
You can also download an app to enable multiuser, but you have to use low dpi like 190dpi which make the phone unusable.
The easiest way is to install Paranoid Android which have the feature included.
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even though I understand the reason, I think that multi-user DOES make sense, even on a phone !
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Not if you get your kids a nexus 7. (c;
T.L.D.R. VERSION: Google Now not speaking out loud. 4 year old :sadface:
Hello. Today I bought a new Nook HD for $79. My daughter has always wanted a tablet and the deal was too good to pass up, so since her birthday is coming up soon, I bought one. Problem I am having is that whenever I use voice search google now answers me, but not out loud. If I ask how tall Kobe Bryant is, it will tell me. It will show his card. It will not, however, speak out loud. This presents a problem because Isabella is 4 years old this week, she can't read! It would be awesome beyond measure if she could ask her tablet questions and get answers, but if it is only going to show cards, she won't be able to do this
I do have the option enabled in Chrome and every setting I can find pertaining to it. But it just doesn't seem to work. I am not rooted or anything, just installed Nova Prime and and using that as my launcher. Aside from that, everything is stock.
I wish I could help. I have an HD+ with a custom ROM and it seems to work as intended. Thanks for showing me a feature I didn't know it had!
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I do have the option enabled in Chrome and every setting I can find pertaining to it. But it just doesn't seem to work. I am not rooted or anything, just installed Nova Prime and and using that as my launcher. Aside from that, everything is stock.
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In Chrome? What about in Google Now?
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Sherip said:
In Chrome? What about in Google Now?
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GNow isn't working either. It opens chrome to display the answers. In a new tab.
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GNow isn't working either. It opens chrome to display the answers. In a new tab.
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Check settings in the Google Search app. There you can enable Google Now and Voice Output. I'm not sure the B&N version of android is compatible, supposedly you need android 4.1 or higher.
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Hi, I am just making sure that rooting via ADB and Fastboot on Fire 7 7th gen has been tried and has be said failed. Or am I just missing something? Thanks!
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Hi, I am just making sure that rooting via ADB and Fastboot on Fire 7 7th gen has been tried and has be said failed. Or am I just missing something? Thanks!
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JakeTse said:
So have you tried rooting the Amazon Fire tablet with other rooting apps? I am not sure that it is ADB's problem, but it is worth a try.
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Then obstacles 'blocking' root access are well understood. Highlights:
- no known (exploitable) vulnerabilities in FireOS 5.3.2.1 and above
- locked bootloader restricts access to recovery and system partitions
- crippled fastboot environment; most commands don't work
- signed and partially encrypted bootloader
Basically Amazon is using the same approach to secure their device as some of the major carriers (eg: Verizon) which is time proven and effective. A sloppy rollout of early 5th gen devices left some doors open; those are now closed. It would seem the same thing happened with the recent HD 10 refresh which uses a different architecture. In contrast, the 32-bit hardware platform used in the 7th gen Fire 7 is mature and well understood.
Is it possible a new vulnerability will be discovered? Sure. Is it likely given the considerable efforts of Google, Amazon and other 'majors' to harden Android and underlying firmware? Will leave that for others to ponder.
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Then obstacles 'blocking' root access are well understood. Highlights:
- no known (exploitable) vulnerabilities in FireOS 5.3.2.1 and above
- locked bootloader restricts access to recovery and system partitions
- crippled fastboot environment; most commands don't work
- signed and partially encrypted bootloader
Basically Amazon is using the same approach to secure their device as some of the major carriers (eg: Verizon) which is time proven and effective. A sloppy rollout of early 5th gen devices left some doors open; those are now closed. It would seem the same thing happened with the recent HD 10 refresh which uses a different architecture. In contrast, the 32-bit hardware platform used in the 7th gen Fire 7 is mature and well understood.
Is it possible a new vulnerability will be discovered? Sure. Is it likely given the considerable efforts of Google, Amazon and other 'majors' to harden Android and underlying firmware? Will leave that for others to ponder.
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Thanks for letting me know, I just hate all those patches and bloatware because they take up so mush space. Now I can't even uninstall the bloatware, they just reinstall themselves even with no internet. I also don't like the launcher. The layout is dumb had it's full of ads. I just don't understand why they have to make Android unrootable. Makes no sense.
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Thanks for letting me know, I just hate all those patches and bloatware because they take up so mush space. Now I can't even uninstall the bloatware, they just reinstall themselves even with no internet. I also don't like the launcher. The layout is dumb had it's full of ads. I just don't understand why they have to make Android unrootable. Makes no sense.
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Makes perfect sense as Fire devices are designed, marketed and sold as captive portals to Amazon's vast ecosystem. They are not intended to be generic Android devices that you can customize to your liking.
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Makes perfect sense as Fire devices are designed, marketed and sold as captive portals to Amazon's vast ecosystem. They are not intended to be generic Android devices that you can customize to your liking.
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I have to say, but they should put back key Android features like custom launcher and better Google Apps support.
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I have to say, but they should put back key Android features like custom launcher and better Google Apps support.
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Why? How does that serve Amazon's business model? There are many generic Android tablets on the market if you want those capabilities/features.
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Then obstacles 'blocking' root access are well understood. Highlights:
- no known (exploitable) vulnerabilities in FireOS 5.3.2.1 and above
- locked bootloader restricts access to recovery and system partitions
- crippled fastboot environment; most commands don't work
- signed and partially encrypted bootloader
Basically Amazon is using the same approach to secure their device as some of the major carriers (eg: Verizon) which is time proven and effective. A sloppy rollout of early 5th gen devices left some doors open; those are now closed. It would seem the same thing happened with the recent HD 10 refresh which uses a different architecture. In contrast, the 32-bit hardware platform used in the 7th gen Fire 7 is mature and well understood.
Is it possible a new vulnerability will be discovered? Sure. Is it likely given the considerable efforts of Google, Amazon and other 'majors' to harden Android and underlying firmware? Will leave that for others to ponder.
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Something weird is going on in regards to the HD 10. Looks like a dirty cow root and the method I'm using to modify (fix) the framework, is one I found on XDA from 2013 if I recall correctly. It's almost like it's the good old days when everything could be rooted. After all, it takes KingoRoot less than a minute, maybe 45 seconds. Last time I saw a privelage escalation that quick was right about 2014 or 15. Not long before DC was patched. So is Amazon refreshing their tablets with old software and hardware?
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Something weird is going on in regards to the HD 10. Looks like a dirty cow root and the method I'm using to modify (fix) the framework, is one I found on XDA from 2013 if I recall correctly. It's almost like it's the good old days when everything could be rooted. After all, it takes KingoRoot less than a minute, maybe 45 seconds. Last time I saw a privelage escalation that quick was right about 2014 or 15. Not long before DC was patched. So is Amazon refreshing their tablets with old software and hardware?
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Hm, well I do here that theuare going to update their tablets to Android 7.1. That could leave some doors open.
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Why? How does that serve Amazon's business model? There are many generic Android tablets on the market if you want those capabilities/features.
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Yea, I know. But people are trying to bypass that and Amazon is trying to patch it, which takes up space. A 8GB model only has about 5.56GB of usable space. Their are also a crap ton of Amazon Apps. They should at least conbain them so they don't take up so much space. And those generic Android tablets a junk. At least the on it the $50 price range. The only good one is the RCA tablet you can get a Walmart. The worst one I ever used is a Digiland I bought at Best buy.
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Yea, I know. But people are trying to bypass that and Amazon is trying to patch it, which takes up space. A 8GB model only has about 5.56GB of usable space. Their are also a crap ton of Amazon Apps. They should at least conbain them so they don't take up so much space. And those generic Android tablets a junk. At least the on it the $50 price range. The only good one is the RCA tablet you can get a Walmart. The worst one I ever used is a Digiland I bought at Best buy.
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None of that serves as justification for change. What more space? Update to the 16 GB model or HD 8. Don't like Amazon apps? Buy a different device. Amazon is a business they derives revenue from the sale of products/services, not the sale of tablets. Fire and Kindle gizmos are designed to feed that machine. Catering to a competitor doesn't really work.
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Something weird is going on in regards to the HD 10. Looks like a dirty cow root and the method I'm using to modify (fix) the framework, is one I found on XDA from 2013 if I recall correctly. It's almost like it's the good old days when everything could be rooted. After all, it takes KingoRoot less than a minute, maybe 45 seconds. Last time I saw a privelage escalation that quick was right about 2014 or 15. Not long before DC was patched. So is Amazon refreshing their tablets with old software and hardware?
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HD 10 uses a different (64-bit) architecture which likely utilizes rewritten or 3rd party code that has not been fully vetted. Take advantages of the vulnerabilities now as Amazon is likely working on patches. Same thing happened on 2nd, 3rd and some 5th gen devices when first introduced.
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None of that serves as justification for change. What more space? Update to the 16 GB model or HD 8. Don't like Amazon apps? Buy a different device. Amazon is a business they derives revenue of the sale of products/services, not the sale of tablets. Fire and Kindle gizmos are designed to feed that machine. Catering to a competitor doesn't really work.
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HD 10 uses a different (64-bit) architecture which likely utilizes rewritten or 3rd party code that has not been fully vetted. Take advantages of the vulnerabilities now as Amazon is likely working on patches. Same thing happened on 2nd, 3rd and some 5th gen devices when first introduced.
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It's given me the chance to do a lot of research and experiments. The amount of stuff I got and am getting working now in the last two weeks is staggering. FireOS isn't so bad, once you are able to lift nearly all restrictions.
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It's given me the chance to do a lot of research and experiments. The amount of stuff I got and am getting working now in the last two weeks is staggering. FireOS isn't so bad, once you are able to lift nearly all restrictions.
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What kind of restrictions?
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Davey126 said:
None of that serves as justification for change. What more space? Update to the 16 GB model or HD 8. Don't like Amazon apps? Buy a different device. Amazon is a business they derives revenue of the sale of products/services, not the sale of tablets. Fire and Kindle gizmos are designed to feed that machine. Catering to a competitor doesn't really work.
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HD 10 uses a different (64-bit) architecture which likely utilizes rewritten or 3rd party code that has not been fully vetted. Take advantages of the vulnerabilities now as Amazon is likely working on patches. Same thing happened on 2nd, 3rd and some 5th gen devices when first introduced.
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Come on! I just a middle school nerd. I don't have no job, although, I want to get so I can get a Asus Zenfone 5z
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What kind of restrictions?
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Getting ready to make a thread now for example, wifi optimization. Not sure what Amazon was thinking in restricting that but I enabled dual band support, allowed wifi to scan whenever it's down, unless turned off. I have the daydream screen saver fully operational, colors included. That's just some of the things.
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Getting ready to make a thread now for example, wifi optimization. Not sure what Amazon was thinking in restricting that but I enabled dual band support, allowed wifi to scan whenever it's down, unless turned off. I have the daydream screen saver fully operational, colors included. That's just some of the things.
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You have any guide of how to do that?
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Getting ready to make a thread now for example, wifi optimization. Not sure what Amazon was thinking in restricting that but I enabled dual band support, allowed wifi to scan whenever it's down, unless turned off. I have the daydream screen saver fully operational, colors included. That's just some of the things.
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WiFi scanning is a huge battery suck with marginal benefits; most disable it once becoming aware of the tradeoff. Not sure why dual band support is disabled on your 7th gen. Could be the channels your AP is using if the Fire WiFi 'chip' doesn't support DFS.
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WiFi scanning is a huge battery suck with marginal benefits; most disable it once becoming aware of the tradeoff. Not sure why dual band support is disabled on your 7th gen. Could be the channels your AP is using if the Fire WiFi 'chip' doesn't support DFS.
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The setting was blocked. The support is there, but wasn't available to toggle. If there is a drain, it's very little. Maybe we aren't talking about the same thing. I'll post findings later. I had a minor setback
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The lack of space
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Makes perfect sense as Fire devices are designed, marketed and sold as captive portals to Amazon's vast ecosystem. They are not intended to be generic Android devices that you can customize to your liking.
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So Amazon's "vast ecosystem" is not that well patrolled and does not have near the functionality of the regular play story. There are apps on the Amazon Eco system that are utter rubbish (like the early days of the google play store) the difference is that there is not a good policing system to get rid of the rubbish or instinctive the devs to list the apps for the correct categories. Amazon's eco system is rip for phising and scam artists to get to older people who buy devices like this. I am one of the those people who clean up the malware, phising, and crap that filters in from an unmaintained eco system.
First a lock device is always like a challenge. There has to be a way in. Second. There are so many of us out here that major manufacturers should know by know that it only takes a little time for anyone to unlock or break a devices.
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So Amazon's "vast ecosystem" is not that well patrolled and does not have near the functionality of the regular play story. There are apps on the Amazon Eco system that are utter rubbish (like the early days of the google play store) the difference is that there is not a good policing system to get rid of the rubbish or instinctive the devs to list the apps for the correct categories. Amazon's eco system is rip for phising and scam artists to get to older people who buy devices like this. I am one of the those people who clean up the malware, phising, and crap that filters in from an unmaintained eco system.
First a lock device is always like a challenge. There has to be a way in. Second. There are so many of us out here that major manufacturers should know by know that it only takes a little time for anyone to unlock or break a devices.
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Concur on the state of Amazon's app store recognizing it is just a small corner of the full ecosystem. Unlikely to get substantially better given limited revenue potential. Falls into the 'good enough' box where Amazon excels.
As for device lock-downs Amazon has a pretty good track record. It's really not that hard with proper emphasis and code management. The sloppy past is not likely to widely repeat itself going forward. Not saying it will be absolute but no low hanging fruit where the vast majority of prior vulnerabilities reside.
Davey126 said:
Concur on the state of Amazon's app store recognizing it is just a small corner of the full ecosystem. Unlikely to get substantially better given limited revenue potential. Falls into the 'good enough' box where Amazon excels.
As for device lock-downs Amazon has a pretty good track record. It's really not that hard with proper emphasis and code management. The sloppy past is not likely to widely repeat itself going forward. Not saying it will be absolute but no low hanging fruit where the vast majority of prior vulnerabilities reside.
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I'm convinced there's a way and i think we're closer than we were 2 weeks ago at unlocking these things. I've noticed a few things here and there. I remember one thing you said to me way back when...about replacing the ecosystem piece by piece. Almost all I've done with the framework and settings and various other things, it seems Amazon just pushed Android out of the way, rather than create their own "os". I'm simply undoing their pushings and replacing it with the Android code, which by the way, in most cases, they don't delete. If they did that with the system, it's possible they did that in the other partitions. Unfortunately, I haven't even glanced at most of the other partitions. Mostly because it's a whole nother level.