Since the diamond and Xperia X1 share the same Qualcomm platform and both have probably the same 3.2 AF camera module, can somebody manage how to make diamond record VGA (640*480 30 FPS) video, which Xperia can?
There's a firmware for X1 in X1 subforum, maybe somebody can use it's camera driver or whatever it is in Diamond firmware?
I think we pay a cheaper price for the diamond and as a result we obtain at the end a cheaper product.....the same happens with the Opera version without Flash Lite 3 support and many other things discussed on this forum.
But in some way will be nice to have the possibility to record videos with a bigger resolution.
No, this can not be just about marketing. There must be some HW reason. HTC doesent have reason to make better phone for Sony Ericsson than their best phone aka Touch Pro. Even if is true what you say about Diamond, Touch Pro would have VGA @ 30 FPS record capability, if this is just software thing. Why would HTC do something like this? Just realize, how many even more powerfull phones than Diamond have only QVGA record option. Dell Axim x50v, Asus P535, Even Omnia with brand new Monahan 624 MHz CPU can just [email protected] FPS. Dont tell me that HTC didnt include this option to Diamond and Raphael just becouse of marketing.
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No, this can not be just about marketing. There must be some HW reason. HTC doesent have reason to make better phone for Sony Ericsson than their best phone aka Touch Pro. Even if is true what you say about Diamond, Touch Pro would have VGA @ 30 FPS record capability, if this is just software thing. Why would HTC do something like this? Just realize, how many even more powerfull phones than Diamond have only QVGA record option. Dell Axim x50v, Asus P535, Even Omnia with brand new Monahan 624 MHz CPU can just [email protected] FPS. Dont tell me that HTC didnt include this option to Diamond and Raphael just becouse of marketing.
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Hi pokevitek, HTC does not manufacture devices for SONY, they produce their products using a very strange marketing strategy, just look into the past, troubles with devices like Kaiser and Cruise, which where using the same HW but getting different HTC SW versions , e.g. the camera SW.
HTC made the Xpreia x1 so it has been rumored. designed by sony made by HTC????
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Hi pokevitek, HTC does not manufacture devices for SONY, they produce their products using a very strange marketing strategy, just look into the past, troubles with devices like Kaiser and Cruise, which where using the same HW but getting different HTC SW versions , e.g. the camera SW.
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HTC is the manufacturer for the Xperia X1. It's just rebranded by Sony Ericsson.
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HTC is the manufacturer for the Xperia X1. It's just rebranded by Sony Ericsson.
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Ok, if so, i'll never understand the kind of marketing strategy HTC is using for.....!!! but the crazy thing is, they have a big success as Smartphone and Pcket PC manufacturer...!!!
htc used to only make devices for other companys
think it's rare now though
I understand licensing the codec to do VGA 30fps recording cost more money, hence HTC never did it.
I think porting the driver is a good strategy that should be pursued
Surur
I think we should port as much as possible from the x1.
Just because we can
Just downloaded the rom...
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I think we should port as much as possible from the x1.
Just because we can
Just downloaded the rom...
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where did you download it?
UPS...sorry found it ;-)
Hello everyone,
I come to your forum with several questions regarding my work phone, which is due to an upgrade in a few weeks...
So, a little background...I adopted Android from it's release and am savvy to smartphones and their operating systems. Nonetheless I have always used a Blackberry for work purposes, due mainly to exceedingly good battery life and call quality.
I would appreciate your feedback on WP and it's handsets specifically.
e.g.
Is the call quality on WP generally very good, or does it depend upon the handset?
If I were to adopt WP, is Lumia the way to go?
What is the difference between a Lumia 920, 925 and 1020? (They seem very similar!)
Does WP offer apps which equate to:
-Google Maps
-Google Search
-Chrome
-LinkedIn
How is the WP OS on maximising battery life?
The company uses Office 365 which I know integrates excellently with WP, hence the interest. So I doubt there would be any issues with contacts, mail, calendar or reading/editing Office documents?
Can WP handle zips and PDFs too?
What other apps are great for business use on WP?
Most important of all, how is the keyboard? My Blackberry Curve 9320 is exceptional for e-mails, and likewise Android with SwiftKey is brilliant.
Can you install another keyboard?
Are there any recommended high quality slim black leather cases for the Lumia range to protect the screen? I like book flip cases mainly.
Which UK newspapers/business magazines (Economist? Telegraph?) have official WP apps?
I'm sure I have more questions...but I'll leave it there.
I appreciate any and all help from the community.
Hey bertles86, welcome on board! I have just switched to Lumia 925 from Blackberry Bold 9900, same reason as yours and it's a company mobile...
Regarding your concern...
* Call quality, it's Nokia made. So aside from OS which shouldn't has any affection to its state of the art technology.... but I guess it depends on handset.
* Lumia would be your only choice for sure, especially after MS bought over.
* 920 & 925, same CPU & ram (1G), 920 with 32GB, 925 with 16GB, and 920 is NFC ready, 925 needs an extra cover for it. OS is slightly updater which fixed some bugs from 920. And weights a whole lot different! 1020, same CPU with 2G ram, and 41MP camera.
* Apps
-Here Maps (best maps app other than Google Maps)
-Google Search, has WP version
-Unfortunately, only has IE...
-Linkedin, has WP version
* battery life is awesome, I have been using it for past 2 weeks with heavy daily usage, no problem at all
* No problem
* Can handle both ZIP & PDF
* Nothing much...
* Keyboard is not bad, but can't compare to any BB at all...
Hope it helps...
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Hey bertles86, welcome on board! I have just switched to Lumia 925 from Blackberry Bold 9900, same reason as yours and it's a company mobile...
Regarding your concern...
* Call quality, it's Nokia made. So aside from OS which shouldn't has any affection to its state of the art technology.... but I guess it depends on handset.
* Lumia would be your only choice for sure, especially after MS bought over.
* 920 & 925, same CPU & ram (1G), 920 with 32GB, 925 with 16GB, and 920 is NFC ready, 925 needs an extra cover for it. OS is slightly updater which fixed some bugs from 920. And weights a whole lot different! 1020, same CPU with 2G ram, and 41MP camera.
* Apps
-Here Maps (best maps app other than Google Maps)
-Google Search, has WP version
-Unfortunately, only has IE...
-Linkedin, has WP version
* battery life is awesome, I have been using it for past 2 weeks with heavy daily usage, no problem at all
* No problem
* Can handle both ZIP & PDF
* Nothing much...
* Keyboard is not bad, but can't compare to any BB at all...
Hope it helps...
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That's great thanks soo much! I think I'll consider the Lumia 925 then!
Maxthon has released its browser for Windows Phone and besides UC Browser and several other ones you have alternative to Internet Explorer
903idcop said:
* 920 & 925, same CPU & ram (1G), 920 with 32GB, 925 with 16GB, and 920 is NFC ready, 925 needs an extra cover for it. OS is slightly updater which fixed some bugs from 920. And weights a whole lot different! 1020, same CPU with 2G ram, and 41MP camera.
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Both the 920 and 925 are NFC ready out of the box, the only thing the 925 needs a special cover for, and doesn't have it integrated like the 920 is the Qi Wireless Charging. The 920 weighs 185 g (6.53 oz), meanwhile the 925 weighs 139 g (4.90 oz). The 920 sports an IPS LCD display, while the 925 has an AMOLED display (way better in sunlight and has darker blacks). The 920 is older and has a matte plastic finish, the 925 looks and feels more premium with it's metal casing on the side.
Hope this helped
unfortunately you can't install any custom keyboard layout for now, since MS does't support that. i hope they will bring it in 8.1 update next year. and don't hope amazing swiftkey will be landed in WP this year.
i don't know here maps service in your country. but in my country, google maps has better detail than here maps.
battery life is good compared to android in my opinion.
bertles86 said:
Hello everyone,
I come to your forum with several questions regarding my work phone, which is due to an upgrade in a few weeks...
So, a little background...I adopted Android from it's release and am savvy to smartphones and their operating systems. Nonetheless I have always used a Blackberry for work purposes, due mainly to exceedingly good battery life and call quality.
I would appreciate your feedback on WP and it's handsets specifically.
e.g.
Is the call quality on WP generally very good, or does it depend upon the handset?
If I were to adopt WP, is Lumia the way to go?
What is the difference between a Lumia 920, 925 and 1020? (They seem very similar!)
Does WP offer apps which equate to:
-Google Maps
-Google Search
-Chrome
-LinkedIn
How is the WP OS on maximising battery life?
The company uses Office 365 which I know integrates excellently with WP, hence the interest. So I doubt there would be any issues with contacts, mail, calendar or reading/editing Office documents?
Can WP handle zips and PDFs too?
What other apps are great for business use on WP?
Most important of all, how is the keyboard? My Blackberry Curve 9320 is exceptional for e-mails, and likewise Android with SwiftKey is brilliant.
Can you install another keyboard?
Are there any recommended high quality slim black leather cases for the Lumia range to protect the screen? I like book flip cases mainly.
Which UK newspapers/business magazines (Economist? Telegraph?) have official WP apps?
I'm sure I have more questions...but I'll leave it there.
I appreciate any and all help from the community.
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I don't know where you live, but the 928 is a great device on Verizon.
callquality-awesome, I've had planes fly over and a person incall not hear it at all.
Phone choice- ...
Not much to say here. Nokia makes physically the best phone to hold and use. HTC manufactures them to have their foot in the door with MS. The same could be
said
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Also, enterprise-wise, Microsoft will release Enterprise Feature Pack for Windows Phone:
Link
But it is the Enterprise Feature Pack that has me more interested. This update is due in the first half of 2014 and will add the following features to Windows Phone 8:
S/MIME to sign and encrypt email
Access to corporate resources behind the firewall with app aware, auto-triggered VPN
Enterprise Wi-Fi support with EAP-TLS
Enhanced MDM policies to lock down functionality on the phone for more enterprise control, in addition to richer application management such as allowing or denying installation of certain apps
Certificate management to enroll, update, and revoke certificates for user authentication
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Here is some more detail from my perspective:
Is the call quality on WP generally very good, or does it depend upon the handset?
The phone OS doesn’t have much affect on call quality – that depends mainly on your network, the handset, and your location. That being said, Nokia has a reputation for excellent phone radios and that is carried out in their top Lumias. The budget Lumias (520, 620) don’t come up to that standard, but after all, they are low-cost alternatives. HTC’s main entry, the 8X also has a reputation for excellent call quality.
If I were to adopt WP, is Lumia the way to go?
Nokia is the dominant player, almost by default. HTC has one good Windows Phone (8X) that came out a year ago. There is a Samsung phone as well.
What is the difference between a Lumia 920, 925 and 1020? (They seem very similar!)
They are all very similar with usually one differentiator that sets each apart.
920 – Last year’s top-of-the-line; it’s a great phone with a terrific camera – optical image stabilization is built in for better low-light shooting. However it is quite thick and heavy. On the other hand, since it is a year old it can be found at half its original price which makes it a good value.
925 – This year’s update to the 920. It’s the same phone for all practical purposes BUT it’s much thinner and lighter (which was the biggest complaint against the 920).
1020 – This is like taking the 925 and adding in the most awesome camera ever put into a phone (41 megapixels). It adds a little bulk, (but it’s still much less mass than the 920). If the camera component is important to you, then this should be on your list. If not, the camera on the 920 or 925 is already many times better than what you are already using, so save some money or weight and forgo the 1020.
Apps
Maps - Nokia’s HERE maps and HERE Drive (navigation) are terrific and free.
Search – Bing, of course. Also Google Search is available in the Windows Phone Store.
Browser – Internet Explorer works very well. Up until recently it was also your only choice. Now there are others like UC Browser and Nokia’s Express (server cached) browser.
LinkedIn – LinkedIn (That was easy.)
How is the WP OS on maximizing battery life?
As a whole, WP does well on battery life because it keeps the hardware down to a minimum. So you aren’t running a Ferrari when all you need is a Mini, so to speak. However it also comes down to the specific handset and apps.
Business Software
Excellent implementations of Office Web Applications, Lync 2013, Yammer, Skydrive Pro, OneNote, and Skype.
Can WP handle zips and PDFs too?
I don’t know about archives, but Adobe Reader is usually the first app I install on a phone.
Most important of all, how is the keyboard?
You realize that this will be a big jump from a BB 9320 – there hasn’t been a Windows Phone with a physical keyboard since the Dell Venue Pro in 2011. As for the virtual keyboard – there are no choices other than the built in keyboard. Most find it very responsive and easy to type on. However, it does have its faults. There is no way to type numbers or symbols from the main keyboard; you must toggle to the secondary numeric keyboard.
Are there any recommended high quality slim black leather cases for the Lumia range to protect the screen? I like book flip cases mainly.
There are many for the upper-range Nokia phones – at all price ranges. There is less selection in nice leather cases for the budget phones.
Which UK newspapers/business magazines (Economist? Telegraph?) have official WP apps?
You can go to the Windows Phone store on the web and look around:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/store
If you have serious business contacts and data and want to sync with a pc there is no active sync. You have to upload all personal data to the microsoft cloud first, i find this outragious.
k33 said:
If you have serious business contacts and data and want to sync with a pc there is no active sync. You have to upload all personal data to the microsoft cloud first, i find this outragious.
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'Serious business contacts' locked down to 1 PC?
I think it's better to have multiple copies of important contacts. =)
And yes, in terms of protocol, ActiveSync is supported.
Yuriy.Samorodov said:
'Serious business contacts' locked down to 1 PC...
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Most businesses abandoned PC sync 15 years ago. Syncing contacts, calendar, and email between an Exchange server and a mobile device over the air gave every mobile device Blackberry-like powers.
Cloud sync brought that same ease-of-use to consumers, whether they use Google, Microsoft, or Yahoo (to name a few). You have specific reasons to hang on to the 1990's computer sync method. But most business and consumer users today couldn't imagine why they should have to run a separate program on their computer just to keep their contacts, etc., up-to-date.
I wanted to give WP a try but they still don't support enterprise wifi with EAP-TLS support. This means no one can log into the work wifi network. Massive fail!
This is 2+ years after they knew about it:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2281269
1+ years since they gave the completely useless and non-committal "at some point" response:
http://www.wpcentral.com/wi-fi-eap-tls-support-coming-windows-phone-some-point
And still potentially 7 months before we finally see it (not barring delays):
http://blogs.windows.com/windows_ph...spx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I mean seriously? Enterprise wifi is not a feature, its a bare bones core requirement that iOS and android have had since day 1.
And they want business users to switch to them and take them seriously...yeah right.
Some enterprise WiFi encryption/authentication is already supported, and I'm skeptical of your claim that both iOS and Android shipped with full support from day one, but I agree that EAP-TLS specifically is overdue. We shall see how long it takes them... at least once it's done, it should be possible to get it quickly.
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Some enterprise WiFi encryption/authentication is already supported, and I'm skeptical of your claim that both iOS and Android shipped with full support from day one, but I agree that EAP-TLS specifically is overdue. We shall see how long it takes them... at least once it's done, it should be possible to get it quickly.
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I've been on android since HTC dream so that's about 3 years and yes it worked back then...
Their attitude towards adding this core requirement is just horrendous - they expected people to just wait for 3 years while they fixed it?
Just like how they will fix the volume coupling? I always laugh at the poor Windows phone users listening to music in the library and their phone starts ringing and vibrating like mad cos they didn't have the option of separate music and system volume controls.
I'm sorry but it's just so hard to take wp seriously when so many basic fundamental flaws are ignored and the poor users are expected to just deal with it.
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liqn7 said:
I've been on android since HTC dream so that's about 3 years and yes it worked back then...
Their attitude towards adding this core requirement is just horrendous - they expected people to just wait for 3 years while they fixed it?
Just like how they will fix the volume coupling? I always laugh at the poor Windows phone users listening to music in the library and their phone starts ringing and vibrating like mad cos they didn't have the option of separate music and system volume controls.
I'm sorry but it's just so hard to take wp seriously when so many basic fundamental flaws are ignored and the poor users are expected to just deal with it.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra C6833
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not wanting to nit pick but you are saying you can hear it ringing in a library when someone is also listening to music on it?
Either you have super good hearing or the library rules are different to any other ive been in. The phone rings at the same volume as the music so if you didn't have ear phones in, it would be no worse than music on, if you did have some ear phones on then you wouldn't know any difference... vibrate can be turned off.
Yes it might be useful to have, but in all the years have had a WP device now, it doesn't cross my mind at all its not there...
just saying
Do not buy Nokia Lumia 920 and you will be fine
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Do not buy Nokia Lumia 920 and you will be fine
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why is that?
My 920 has been working great, did you unluckily get a defective model at some point?
frnds its very pathetic that even nokia lumia 525 which is a budget phone,got a fully manual controlled camera,y cant sony provide that? is there any such thing in the future update .....will be very very happy if it provides shuttter speed and focus in complete manual state......tq in advance
dineshmega007 said:
frnds its very pathetic that even nokia lumia 525 which is a budget phone,got a fully manual controlled camera,y cant sony provide that? is there any such thing in the future update .....will be very very happy if it provides shuttter speed and focus in complete manual state......tq in advance
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Nobody knows except for the people at Sony. As you said, it's a future update, and since we haven't figured out time traveling yet be patient and hope that it will come in a future update.
B1nny said:
Nobody knows except for the people at Sony. As you said, it's a future update, and since we haven't figured out time traveling yet be patient and hope that it will come in a future update.
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yeahh tanku frnd.....and i hope ,theres nothing to work with the hardware for the manual contorls...coz an osm camera with a stpd software dsnt be the top notch
dineshmega007 said:
yeahh tanku frnd.....and i hope ,theres nothing to work with the hardware for the manual contorls...coz an osm camera with a stpd software dsnt be the top notch
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Also, protip:
If you want to be taken seriously here on XDA; dnt typ l13k thi3s. Just at least try to type proper English.
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Also, protip:
If you want to be taken seriously here on XDA; dnt typ l13k thi3s. Just at least try to type proper English.
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ok friend thanks for your advice
B1nny said:
Also, protip:
If you want to be taken seriously here on XDA; dnt typ l13k thi3s. Just at least try to type proper English.
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Sorry B1nny but I'm pretty sure English isn't his first language and tbh he's doing a pretty good job of getting his point across with a limited vocabulary?
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What he's using is sms speak. That's usually a big no-no even in Indian forums.
dineshmega007 said:
frnds its very pathetic that even nokia lumia 525 which is a budget phone,got a fully manual controlled camera,y cant sony provide that? is there any such thing in the future update .....will be very very happy if it provides shuttter speed and focus in complete manual state......tq in advance
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For some context, he's referring to the nokia pro cam app. This actually takes fiddling to acquire, use of proxy servers and what not to download. But it does provide manual focus and a shutter speed as long as 4s on a budget device. The best the Z1 can manage is 0.8s.
How well it works on said device is up to debate. 520, 620 are a bit underpowered. 720 and up from what i can tell is ok. Reviews as to performance on lower end devices are hard to come by, mostly people bragging they got it on their phone bla bla. It's not going to make a low end camera perform like a high end one. You will still get low end shots but the ease of use is welcome.
The only use i can see for manual focus is at night when its hard to auto focus or macro shots.
The nokia pro cam app is excellent otherwise in terms of ease of use. Everything you would ever want.
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What he's using is sms speak. That's usually a big no-no even in Indian forums.
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This.
dineshmega007 said:
frnds its very pathetic that even nokia lumia 525 which is a budget phone,got a fully manual controlled camera,y cant sony provide that? is there any such thing in the future update .....will be very very happy if it provides shuttter speed and focus in complete manual state......tq in advance
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Because there is a thing called Google play store, and you can easily download the camera app you want to get these functionality and Lumia doesn't, so they have to make one themselves...
Show me an app that can do manual focusing and set the shutter speed please
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One Twelve said:
What he's using is sms speak. That's usually a big no-no even in Indian forums.
For some context, he's referring to the nokia pro cam app. This actually takes fiddling to acquire, use of proxy servers and what not to download. But it does provide manual focus and a shutter speed as long as 4s on a budget device. The best the Z1 can manage is 0.8s.
How well it works on said device is up to debate. 520, 620 are a bit underpowered. 720 and up from what i can tell is ok. Reviews as to performance on lower end devices are hard to come by, mostly people bragging they got it on their phone bla bla. It's not going to make a low end camera perform like a high end one. You will still get low end shots but the ease of use is welcome.
The only use i can see for manual focus is at night when its hard to auto focus or macro shots.
The nokia pro cam app is excellent otherwise in terms of ease of use. Everything you would ever want.
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ya friend what you said is correct...but nokia 1020 is like a dslr and z1 is like a digital cam,which 1 do you prefer? im not telling z1 is bad,but would be very happy if sony could provide manual controls like shutter speed and focus control....becacouse they let you take stunning images,i hope u understood what i meant...and theres no camera app in play store that provides manual focus ,only we can do is touch to focus,focus lock and infinity focus ec-camera fv-5...and thank you
1020 or Z1 ? The pricing for the 1020 in India is ridiculous, more expensive than the note 3 (!)..lol
Depends what your priorities are. People do not choose a phone based on just the camera. There are a number of other factors that come into play as well. At the flagship level i'd prefer the Z1. As the gap is closer.
At the Rs.15-18k level nothing to beat the 720 for camera. But you have to compromise on OS. The low to mid range lumias are vfm, every one of them has a real GPS and is dual band wifi with the exception of 720. Hardware wise they are better than android.
Just have to accept that WP is more limited than android for now. A year or two later the ecosystem will be more mature. For now its just the basics : phone, camera, internet, media player, offline maps. Some games. Anything more is pushing it.
What i would like to see is the ability to set a custom WB, no camera phone offers that as yet.