hi,
i have problems with my chromecast and my nexus4.
My nexus4 looses the connection to the chromecast a few times per minute.
My nexus7 and my girlfriends nexus4 have not these problems, so i think it has
to do with my nexus4´s wifi, but i dont have any other wifi problems with my nex.
do you have any idea what could cause this problem or how i can fix it?
is there a way to flash a new wifi kernel or anything else?
what i tried:
- diverse network channels (doesnt solve this problem)
- airplane mode / wifi on-off (does help, but only for a few seconds or one minute)
thank you
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bluescreen2 said:
hi,
i have problems with my chromecast and my nexus4.
My nexus4 looses the connection to the chromecast a few times per minute.
My nexus7 and my girlfriends nexus4 have not these problems, so i think it has
to do with my nexus4´s wifi, but i dont have any other wifi problems with my nex.
do you have any idea what could cause this problem or how i can fix it?
is there a way to flash a new wifi kernel or anything else?
what i tried:
- diverse network channels (doesnt solve this problem)
- airplane mode / wifi on-off (does help, but only for a few seconds or one minute)
thank you
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Did a few test:
nexus 7 signal strengh = -60 || ping test = 0-5% packet loss
nexus 4 signal strengh = -80 || ping test = 10-75% packet loss
so it seems that my nexus4 connection is very unstable. putting wlan off on or airplanemode fixes this problem
for a few secs.
any suggestions?
bluescreen2 said:
Did a few test:
nexus 7 signal strengh = -60 || ping test = 0-5% packet loss
nexus 4 signal strengh = -80 || ping test = 10-75% packet loss
so it seems that my nexus4 connection is very unstable. putting wlan off on or airplanemode fixes this problem
for a few secs.
any suggestions?
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What router do you have and where is it in relation to your phones?
You said your girlfriend's Nexus 4 doesn't have this problem? Check what Android build and radio/modem version hers has.
Also, if you have a hard case, sometimes those have metal that can eat signal.
You shouldn't be seeing that much packet loss - the Nexus 7 is way closer to ideal.
Realistically you want near-zero packet loss. Extra latency is to be expected, but loss is not good.
bhiga said:
What router do you have and where is it in relation to your phones?
You said your girlfriend's Nexus 4 doesn't have this problem? Check what Android build and radio/modem version hers has.
Also, if you have a hard case, sometimes those have metal that can eat signal.
You shouldn't be seeing that much packet loss - the Nexus 7 is way closer to ideal.
Realistically you want near-zero packet loss. Extra latency is to be expected, but loss is not good.
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Tried 2 Routers, a linksys wrt and a vodafone one. Same results. Even when i stand right next to it.
No Hardcase. Both, my girlfriend and me have kitkat 4.4.2 with 2.0.1700.98 baseband.
Could a complete reset and stock reflash fix my wlan? or may it be broken hardware? is there any software to
analyse this before reseting?
bluescreen2 said:
Tried 2 Routers, a linksys wrt and a vodafone one. Same results. Even when i stand right next to it.
No Hardcase. Both, my girlfriend and me have kitkat 4.4.2 with 2.0.1700.98 baseband.
Could a complete reset and stock reflash fix my wlan? or may it be broken hardware? is there any software to
analyse this before reseting?
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Hmm, reset from scratch definitely would help eliminate variables, though if it's a hardware issue you'll still have problems.
Do you get any difference in results pinging a wired device on your LAN?
While you should be able to get a better connection than you have on the N4 it is pretty Normal that a Tablet would have a better WiFi signal than a Phone would...
Components are more spread out in an N7 than they are in an N4 and the Antenna is probably larger as well...
I turning the WLAN off helps then it sounds to me like your N4 is very susceptible to interference and the only way to solve it is to try and increase reception on the transmitter side (aka Router).
You could try adding a repeater or upgrading your router but there is no guarantee that it will solve a thing.
solved all my problems by flashing stock kitkat. i am very happy.
thank you all for your help.
Cool. Glad to hear you got it sorted. Amazing how much influence the OS-level components have, though some of those "OS-level" components like the radio/modem are really more firmware, so that makes sense.
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Just wondering if anyone else notices poor range with the wifi on the Note? I switched from an iPhone and noticed the range on the Note doesn't seem as good.
Otherwise, loving the Note!
divinestyler said:
Just wondering if anyone else notices poor range with the wifi on the Note? I switched from an iPhone and noticed the range on the Note doesn't seem as good.
Otherwise, loving the Note!
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it's not only the Note I would suffice as being weak on WIFI... all android phones have some wifi issues.. e.g. always saying "Obtaining WiFi address..." and etc.
it's not the device that is actually having the issue rather it is how Android is implemented. Between any other OS, windows, symbian, IOS, blackberry OS... android seemed too far distant in managing Wifi capabilities and reception. I know this for the fact that when I had my E7 before, I used to connect to public wifi hotspots without any issue at all. Simulating it back on my S2, and on my Note... it takes some considerable time before my device would connect to the hotspot.
Again bud, nothing to worry about.. your not alone on this... this issue (on my end though) happens only if my note scans public hotspots first time.,and takes really a couple of minutes to connect to the said wifi connection....sometimes even the connection fails.. and I have to reconnect again... but eventually it will connect (it would say 'connected').
So cheerup... to sum it up again, its not your device.. but the OS itself that needs some revisions from Google itself.
Don't forget to hit 'Thanks' if I've helped you someway or the other.
letters_to_cleo said:
it's not only the Note I would suffice as being weak on WIFI... all android phones have some wifi issues.. e.g. always saying "Obtaining WiFi address..." and etc.
it's not the device that is actually having the issue rather it is how Android is implemented. Between any other OS, windows, symbian, IOS, blackberry OS... android seemed too far distant in managing Wifi capabilities and reception. I know this for the fact that when I had my E7 before, I used to connect to public wifi hotspots without any issue at all. Simulating it back on my S2, and on my Note... it takes some considerable time before my device would connect to the hotspot.
Again bud, nothing to worry about.. your not alone on this... this issue (on my end though) happens only if my note scans public hotspots first time.,and takes really a couple of minutes to connect to the said wifi connection....sometimes even the connection fails.. and I have to reconnect again... but eventually it will connect (it would say 'connected').
So cheerup... to sum it up again, its not your device.. but the OS itself that needs some revisions from Google itself.
Don't forget to hit 'Thanks' if I've helped you someway or the other.
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I don't think the OP was asking about why it takes long to connect to wifi. They want an explanation of why it won't stay connected when he is a far distance from his router. My suggestion is to check the settings that are best for the Note hardware and adjust your router settings accordingly. If you still have a problem then it will be something that is obstructing the signal of the router. I had the same problems with my Linksys router until I adjusted the settings to fit my devices better.
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I don't think the OP was asking about why it takes long to connect to wifi. They want an explanation of why it won't stay connected when he is a far distance from his router. My suggestion is to check the settings that are best for the Note hardware and adjust your router settings accordingly. If you still have a problem then it will be something that is obstructing the signal of the router. I had the same problems with my Linksys router until I adjusted the settings to fit my devices better.
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If you look in a bigger spectrum bud, you will see that WIFI connection AND issues have always been one of the perennial issues in android. Not just with the Note, but includes the Moto Droid, Vibrant and even the htc one X as well. The OP states that he is using the same wifi connection on his Iphone and he doesnt have that issue at all. Only on his Note. So on my understanding on what you say.. How could it be a router setting or an 'obstruction on the signal of his router' if and if he can connect perfectly fine on his Iphone? given the two phones on 1 wifi infastructure.. only his Note fails.. the Iphone doesn't. What's your take on that?
@OP
anyway, You can try to see if you can download and run this app from playstore.. it's called Wifi fixer. Download that and see how your poor wifi range connection fares.
Cheers.
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anyway, You can try to see if you can download and run this app from playstore.. it's called Wifi fixer. Download that and see how your poor wifi range connection fares.
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Great, thanks for the suggestion - downloading and will try it out! :good:
Just a followup: Tried wifi-fixer but didn't seem to help address the range issue, but thanks again for the suggestion. Any other ideas to resolve?
As for the poor wifi range for the note this is a noticeable issue we all encounter in compare to other mobiles vendors now i even have my access point over my bed and still not got full signal , for the lag in authentication and connecting time i found that playing with diffrent types of wifi encryptions on ur router or accesspoint side will solve this issue, i have no problems in that.
↖(^▽^)↗ Sent from Rego Galaxy Note ↖(^▽^)↗
So is this a hardware issue? I've played with various roms (criskelo, kingdroid, rocket, stock, etc) and they all seem to have the same range issues. Just curious.
divinestyler said:
So is this a hardware issue? I've played with various roms (criskelo, kingdroid, rocket, stock, etc) and they all seem to have the same range issues. Just curious.
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try latest modem, buffer tweak for build.prop, try wifi high performance widgets.
then you will realize that it drink more juice when you increase the performance, it wont be able to beat intel's wifi(4-5bars) or linksys wifi(2-3bars), but at least you will see 1-2bars.
Is anyone else having an issue where your device will be hooked up to a wifi network, will still indicate you're connected but no data will sync? I email myself and nothing happens. Happens with FB, Email, Gmail, and Voice Controls don't work.
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Is anyone else having an issue where your device will be hooked up to a wifi network, will still indicate you're connected but no data will sync? I email myself and nothing happens. Happens with FB, Email, Gmail, and Voice Controls don't work.
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I have that issue with my gNex and my wife's DNA on our home network. I don't think it is necessarily this phone, but I am not convinced (yet) that it is my router, either...
TheKaz said:
I have that issue with my gNex and my wife's DNA on our home network. I don't think it is necessarily this phone, but I am not convinced (yet) that it is my router, either...
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It comes and goes, it looks almost app specific. I say Hello Google Now, and it seems to lock up on recognition or says it can't connect to google....but I'm able to browse the internet.
Yeah I've been having a ton of WiFi issues with this phone.
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Yeah I've been having a ton of WiFi issues with this phone.
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I called Moto and after dealing with their terrible level 1 support I got the following:
HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR DOING THE WIPE CACHE PARTITION:
This will remove any temporary files that may be causing the problem, but will not delete your files or settings.
1. With the phone powered off, press the VOL DOWN KEY for 2-3 seconds then POWER key then release.
2. The device will display different BOOT OPTIONS
3. Use the VOL DOWN Key to SCROLL to Recovery and VOL UP Key to select
Tip: If the device reboots, you may have waited to long to make a selection, you will need to begin the process again.
4. The device will display the Motorola logo and then the Android in distress ( logo with Exclamation mark)
5. Press and hold the VOL UP key for 10-15 seconds. While still holding the VOL UP key tap and release the POWER key
Tip: You can try this step, holding the phone in landscape. If you are stuck on step 6, try a force reboot by pressing the Power key and Vol Down key, and start the process again.
6. The device will display additional menu options (Text will appear in BLUE)
7. Use the VOL DOWN Key to scroll to wipe cache partition and the POWER Key to select this option
8. The device will then perform the partition wipe
9. The device will reboot and start the normal power up sequence
Ever since it hasn't had any problems, but it's only been a few hours as well.
The issues started happening again...turned off wifi and everything resynced perfectly...
ShamanicEnzan said:
The issues started happening again...turned off wifi and everything resynced perfectly...
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Have you tried it on a different router?
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phositadc said:
Have you tried it on a different router?
Sent from my Nexus 7
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I haven't been able to yet, I'm hoping to at work, but my current router works with my laptop and my old HTC
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I haven't been able to yet, I'm hoping to at work, but my current router works with my laptop and my old HTC
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If it doesn't work properly with a different router try exchanging it. Also have you gone into advanced WiFi settings and forced the moto x to 2.4 GHz? If give that a try.
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phositadc said:
If it doesn't work properly with a different router try exchanging it. Also have you gone into advanced WiFi settings and forced the moto x to 2.4 GHz? If give that a try.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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It was set to auto, I set it to 2.4 ghz...now to wait if it happens again.
phositadc said:
If it doesn't work properly with a different router try exchanging it. Also have you gone into advanced WiFi settings and forced the moto x to 2.4 GHz? If give that a try.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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The force to 2.4ghz actually made the problem occur a lot faster, any reason it might be due to the massive amount of wifi networks around? When I set to scan 5 ghz there was only one still open, I might go into my router and see if I can change the atenna settings.
EDIT: Turns out if I go to 5 ghz my computer can't connect, but I changed the channel to something less populated in the area to see if that helps.
DOUBLE EDIT: It appears to occur after I'm supposed to get a Facebook notification, at that point I don't get any more notifications....attempting to clear out facebook data and cache to see if that does anything
Try disabling WMM on your router.
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Try disabling WMM on your router.
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Forgive the stupid, but what's WMM short for in case that's not readily apparent?
Edit: I've also noticed the problem is exponentially worse after I upload pictures to facebook
Edit Edit: Found WMM, turned it off, let's see what happens.
I has this kind of issue before and did a cold boot but nothing happaned. so my last option was to do a restore. After that, my WIFI connection got okay again. problem solved :silly:
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I has this kind of issue before and did a cold boot but nothing happaned. so my last option was to do a restore. After that, my WIFI connection got okay again. problem solved :silly:
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You mean full reset? It looks like I may have to do that with the idle battery drain issue anyways....so that's the last resort.
Hey guys I'm having a similar issue with my moto x on the 2.4ghz band. Speeds are very slow and sometimes cut out completely. Im getting a download speed of about 300kb/s on 2.4 both on auto channel and it doesn't rlly change once I change it manually to an open channel using WiFi analyzer app. My download speeds on 5ghz hit 4000kb/s even with a much lower signal strength.
YouTube and Netflix is unusable and growing the internet sucks. I usually just use the 4g network while at home cuz its a thousand times faster but I'd like this to be fixed regardless. Has anyone found a solution or explanation?
2.4 ghz wifi issues
matt87n said:
Hey guys I'm having a similar issue with my moto x on the 2.4ghz band. Speeds are very slow and sometimes cut out completely. Im getting a download speed of about 300kb/s on 2.4 both on auto channel and it doesn't rlly change once I change it manually to an open channel using WiFi analyzer app. My download speeds on 5ghz hit 4000kb/s even with a much lower signal strength.
YouTube and Netflix is unusable and growing the internet sucks. I usually just use the 4g network while at home cuz its a thousand times faster but I'd like this to be fixed regardless. Has anyone found a solution or explanation?
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I'm having these issues too. Got the GSM Developer Edition on 11/29. It immediately updated to Kit Kat OTA so I'm not sure whether it had the issue prior to Kit Kat or not. This only happens on 2.4 ghz wifi and only with one of my routers at home, a Netgear WNDR3700v2 running OpenWrt Attitude Adjustment (I tried upgrading from Backfire to see if it would help, it did not). The other router is a Linksys WRT350N and when the phone is connected to that one the problem does not happen. Note, that there are 2 laptops, a Samsung Galaxy S2, and a Kindle Fire HDX that have zero problems with the WNDR3700. All can transfer data perfectly fine and at high speeds. Thus I do not think the router is bad. Have not checked work routers. 5 ghz wifi is totally fine and indeed very good with this phone.
For me, the problem is that the phone seems unable to receive data at high speed (over 1Mbps) on 2.4 ghz wifi in any area where the signal isn't perfect and sometimes even in the same room as the router (although usually it is fine there). Oddly in many cases when it has trouble receiving it can send data much faster. It almost seems like it might be some kind of interference as it is rather random.
At this point I'm wondering if the phone has a defective 2.4ghz subsystem, though that seem unlikely due to good transfer with the WRT350N, or if this is some kind of wifi tuning software bug in the phone.
Any info would be appreciated. Does anyone have this issue who did not have the issue on Jellybean? Am wondering if anything changed with wifi for the update? Note, I have tried clearing the cache in recovery as noted in another thread with no luck. Anyone have the WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini file from Jellybean for this phone? Would rather not reflash just for 1 file.
Thanks.
glimmer00 said:
I'm having these issues too. Got the GSM Developer Edition on 11/29. It immediately updated to Kit Kat OTA so I'm not sure whether it had the issue prior to Kit Kat or not. This only happens on 2.4 ghz wifi and only with one of my routers at home, a Netgear WNDR3700v2 running OpenWrt Attitude Adjustment (I tried upgrading from Backfire to see if it would help, it did not). The other router is a Linksys WRT350N and when the phone is connected to that one the problem does not happen. Note, that there are 2 laptops, a Samsung Galaxy S2, and a Kindle Fire HDX that have zero problems with the WNDR3700. All can transfer data perfectly fine and at high speeds. Thus I do not think the router is bad. Have not checked work routers. 5 ghz wifi is totally fine and indeed very good with this phone.
For me, the problem is that the phone seems unable to receive data at high speed (over 1Mbps) on 2.4 ghz wifi in any area where the signal isn't perfect and sometimes even in the same room as the router (although usually it is fine there). Oddly in many cases when it has trouble receiving it can send data much faster. It almost seems like it might be some kind of interference as it is rather random.
At this point I'm wondering if the phone has a defective 2.4ghz subsystem, though that seem unlikely due to good transfer with the WRT350N, or if this is some kind of wifi tuning software bug in the phone.
Any info would be appreciated. Does anyone have this issue who did not have the issue on Jellybean? Am wondering if anything changed with wifi for the update? Note, I have tried clearing the cache in recovery as noted in another thread with no luck. Anyone have the WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini file from Jellybean for this phone? Would rather not reflash just for 1 file.
Thanks.
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For what it's worth I have this same Netgear router and have had the same connectivity issues on both 4.2.2 and 4.4.
I did some reading today and found a couple possible fixes I plan on trying out. First one is to disable WMM. Secondly I found on the official netgear forums that they have had major issues (some of which you've described) with all firmwares ending in the .30s and went so far as to pull them from their download section.
My router was running firmware .36 and I successfully downgraded it to the latest stable firmware .12 that netgear now recommends.
Hopefully 1 of those 2 fixes improves the performance, at any rate I really think it's something with the router itself and not the moto x.
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Thanks for letting me know this was also an issue on 4.2.2. Saves me the trouble of flashing back just to test.
I will be interested to know if your using official netgear 1.0.0.12 firmware fixes the issue for you. I haven't actually ever used the official firmware as I've run OpenWRT since I got the router a year or two ago. 10.03.1 had the issue, and it appears 12.09 does as well. I may try a trunk build at some point to see if that changes anything.
I had previously written that all was well on the 5 ghz band. This appears to not be 100% correct. Yesterday evening and this morning I found myself "connected" to the 5ghz band without actually having working internet. Toggle wifi on/off fixes it, but I shouldn't have to do it.
Not sure if this helps, but on the 2.4 ghz side things do work better on one side of the house vs the other. Also it seems that I can get a very fast connection at times and then it stumbles and gets stuck going under 1 Mbps. I still suspect either a defect or some kind of low level radio issues with the moto or the router regarding interference from neighboring wifi access points (there are a lot around me, single family houses on small lots). However, keep in mind no other device has these issues but the moto. In the rare instance I venture into a bad signal pocket the signal indicator goes down and speed slows or they lose connection vs the moto where it can show excellent signal and have no/nearly no connectivity.
I haven't tried it for long, but switching to wireless g mode vs ng may improve stability though I only briefly tried it. I did walk around part of my house checking the Mbps with the app "WiFi Speed Test" and while way slower than N mode it was far more stable. Even if this does work it is a definate downgrade in speed though.
Well its only been a day or two so it may be too early to tell, but so far my wifi seems much better after making those two fixes I mentioned above. This is on 2.4 band, the 5ghz band doesn't provide me enough signal strength to use all the time (router is too far from my bedroom).
The main issue I was having was my wifi signal would cut out even though it still showed a good connection. I could swipe down on the status bar and see no download arrow next to the wifi icon so I knew I wasn't receiving data. However a simple disconnect and reconnect to my wifi would fix the problem until it happened again. This seemed to be most common while watching YouTube videos, in fact it happened far too often which is why I went searching for a solution.
So as I mentioned things seem to be better for sure so far but I need to give it a week or so to see how much it is really helped, but so far I can't remember any wifi cutting out since I've made those two fixes.
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One guy on Sony forum post this fix
i fix wifi with solution
Please root your phone before edit
Open the file /system/etc/firmware/wlan/prima/WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini in text editor
Change ConnectivityThresholdDBM=-87 to ConnectivityThresholdDBM=-100
reboot
no problem about battery drain.
my fw is 2.254
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I dont know if it works or not. Im testing it now and i post it to allow you try it.
This has been posted before in general section and some report it works some not.
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It helps I think.
My understanding is that this is the level when the phone decides that wifi is too weak and it should switch to a data signal.
I don’t suffer from range issues – the SP has as good, if not better range than all the other wireless devices in my house. However connecting in the first place can be a right pain.
I had an xperia ray before and it also did what I’m about to describe (but connected more reliably) – in essence when wifi is ‘connecting’ the signal strength will go from excellent/good/fair to poor or even nothing. It fails to connect and I’m told there’s an authentication issue.
This tells me that either my router reduces its wifi signal, or my phone is less able to receive the signal during this stage. As my router is old (6/7 years), I’m inclined to think it’s the router – Sony probably test their devices on more recent hardware.
With these things in mind what this tweak does, is hold on to the wifi signal for longer before switching to a data connection, making connecting to wifi more likely.
In my case after applying this hack the signal still drops whilst ‘connecting/authenticating’ but connects more frequently, and the signal goes back up again once connection is made.
I must also say that wifi problems are not unique to Sony devices and having had a look elsewhere for a solution I discovered that many other phones, from a variety of manufacturers, have similar issues. One of the big US Universities even wrote reports about how the Android OS was at fault for overloading their wireless network with repeated DHCP requests.
Anyway before you apply the tweak try enabling ‘auto IP support’ in advanced wireless settings. Similarly it doesn’t make sense to have ‘avoid poor connections’ enabled.
It does work for me
juansuperuser said:
One guy on Sony forum post this fix
I dont know if it works or not. Im testing it now and i post it to allow you try it.
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I changed the file as well. It worked for me, now it doesn't disconnect randomly on weak signals..couple of inches range increased.
Didnt work for me.
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Didnt work for me.
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Thanks for the answers. I have been testing this fix and i can say it works for me. Where i had 1 weak signal now i have 2 or 1 but a steady one. Now i can move in my house without losing WiFi.
Remember that you can change -100 and test it with more (-300) but I supouse the battery will last less. Otherwise you can change to -90 or -95 if you think WiFi its enough good.
Very good. Saw significant improvement in the areas of the house that I had a problem with the connection before. C5303 on 12.0.A.1.257.
Thanks
On the stock 4.1.1 rom i could reach wifi from my modem at about 60 feet or even more. I could stand at the farthest point in my house and still get 2 out of 4 bars on wifi. I loaded slimkat and although it was a good rom it lagged to much, and now im on the latest cm11 nightly, but both roms gave poor wifi performance, i could barely reach it from 20 feet. It would connect but i couldn't really use the internet cause the signal was so bad.
Anyone else have this problem? I have a 2wire modem if anyone is wondering.
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On the stock 4.1.1 rom i could reach wifi from my modem at about 60 feet or even more. I could stand at the farthest point in my house and still get 2 out of 4 bars on wifi. I loaded slimkat and although it was a good rom it lagged to much, and now im on the latest cm11 nightly, but both roms gave poor wifi performance, i could barely reach it from 20 feet. It would connect but i couldn't really use the internet cause the signal was so bad.
Anyone else have this problem? I have a 2wire modem if anyone is wondering.
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I have been having issues with Wi-Fi, but it's my provider fault. So no, no issues so far. I'm on a Carbon ROM nightly. BTW, you don't need to "bump".
What frequency does your router use? 2.4 or 5 ghz? And how many walls is it going through? Mine uses both and I get good reception up till my fence line, about 40ft away from the router behind a brick wall and some windows, using 2.4 whereas 5 will barely make it out of the house. I have a Western Digital router, not sure of the model number, but it was a cheapo from Walmart.
That said, wifi has been strange with custom roms on 4.4 with some people. For some of us it seems to be just fine where others have poor or no signal. The following is speculation based on what I've noticed lately --- Makes me wonder if some phones have revision B of the wifi chip when development team is using A, or something like that. The RAZR HD was having similar issues caused by different chipset revisions when KitKat first came out and maybe we're having the same. --- End speculation.
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What frequency does your router use? 2.4 or 5 ghz? And how many walls is it going through? Mine uses both and I get good reception up till my fence line, about 40ft away from the router behind a brick wall and some windows, using 2.4 whereas 5 will barely make it out of the house. I have a Western Digital router, not sure of the model number, but it was a cheapo from Walmart.
That said, wifi has been strange with custom roms on 4.4 with some people. For some of us it seems to be just fine where others have poor or no signal. The following is speculation based on what I've noticed lately --- Makes me wonder if some phones have revision B of the wifi chip when development team is using A, or something like that. The RAZR HD was having similar issues caused by different chipset revisions when KitKat first came out and maybe we're having the same. --- End speculation.
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I understand there maybe many factors why the signal is weak, but its the fact that after i changed the rom the reception became worse.
Im using a 2.4 GHz i think. Mine has to go through a floor because its in the basment and from the floor goes through 2 walls to get to my room where before i flashed kit kat i got 2 bars just fine and could use the internet and now it doesn't even get signal. Before flashing kit kat i could get 2 bars in my sisters room (floor and around 3 walls and furniture around 50 feet away). Its a big house so...but its never been this bad even with my old phone! which is an lg optimus one.
after doing extensive research on the kit kat update, turns out this is a location services/wifi chip conflict and this pretty much renders the wifi chip useless. so unless your router is strong (and mine isnt) you wont get good wifi connection anywhere.
One way to sort of fix it is to do the following.
1. Go to Settings>Location Services> Device only (basically so it would not use the wifi and this would free up some bandwidth for your phone).
2. Go to Settings>Wifi>Advanced>Turn the Eco mode/ Battery saver mode OFF
This will increase performance of the wifi chip and stop google from using up your wifi to track you (lol)
This also seems to drastically increase battery performance, I loose about 1 percent every 5 minutes with screen off. Right now i am at 78% and not going down at all while my screen is on. So...i guess the battery saver thing drains battery??? (idk maybe a cm bug).
Hope this helps anyone who has this problem on kit kat. By the way turning off location services does 2 bad things, renders certain apps useless and 2, does not help wifi (idk why).
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Its been around 10 minutes and battery isn't going down
russian392 said:
after doing extensive research on the kit kat update, turns out this is a location services/wifi chip conflict and this pretty much renders the wifi chip useless. so unless your router is strong (and mine isnt) you wont get good wifi connection anywhere.
One way to sort of fix it is to do the following.
1. Go to Settings>Location Services> Device only (basically so it would not use the wifi and this would free up some bandwidth for your phone).
2. Go to Settings>Wifi>Advanced>Turn the Eco mode/ Battery saver mode OFF
This will increase performance of the wifi chip and stop google from using up your wifi to track you (lol)
This also seems to drastically increase battery performance, I loose about 1 percent every 5 minutes with screen off. Right now i am at 78% and not going down at all while my screen is on. So...i guess the battery saver thing drains battery??? (idk maybe a cm bug).
Hope this helps anyone who has this problem on kit kat. By the way turning off location services does 2 bad things, renders certain apps useless and 2, does not help wifi (idk why).
EDIT
Its been around 10 minutes and battery isn't going down
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I don't see the Eco Mode, maybe is just a feature of the ROM you are using? I see Wi-Fi optimization (minimize battery usage when Wi-Fi is on), is that it?
Yea that is the one he is referring to. Btw, I personally don't have WiFi issues on my roms, go back to stock if you get a chance and see if the wifi is still failing, it may just be that 2-Wire.
russian392 said:
after doing extensive research on the kit kat update, turns out this is a location services/wifi chip conflict and this pretty much renders the wifi chip useless. so unless your router is strong (and mine isnt) you wont get good wifi connection anywhere.
One way to sort of fix it is to do the following.
1. Go to Settings>Location Services> Device only (basically so it would not use the wifi and this would free up some bandwidth for your phone).
2. Go to Settings>Wifi>Advanced>Turn the Eco mode/ Battery saver mode OFF
This will increase performance of the wifi chip and stop google from using up your wifi to track you (lol)
This also seems to drastically increase battery performance, I loose about 1 percent every 5 minutes with screen off. Right now i am at 78% and not going down at all while my screen is on. So...i guess the battery saver thing drains battery??? (idk maybe a cm bug).
Hope this helps anyone who has this problem on kit kat. By the way turning off location services does 2 bad things, renders certain apps useless and 2, does not help wifi (idk why).
EDIT
Its been around 10 minutes and battery isn't going down
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Hmmm. I'm already doing #1, haven't bothered taking a #2, I mean trying #2 ever....My wifi is set to go on and off with the screen and I only connect to trusted networks, for me, there never has been reason to use #1 between paranoia and wanting to save battery life.
Good finds, it'll be worth watching logs when those settings are enable/disabled to see if any errors pop up.
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Silentwidow said:
Yea that is the one he is referring to. Btw, I personally don't have WiFi issues on my roms, go back to stock if you get a chance and see if the wifi is still failing, it may just be that 2-Wire.
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He did go to stock and it worked just fine -- in the OP....errr, at least said that it works with stock just fine.
skeevydude said:
Hmmm. I'm already doing #1, haven't bothered taking a #2, I mean trying #2 ever....My wifi is set to go on and off with the screen and I only connect to trusted networks, for me, there never has been reason to use #1 between paranoia and wanting to save battery life.
Good finds, it'll be worth watching logs when those settings are enable/disabled to see if any errors pop up.
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He did go to stock and it worked just fine -- in the OP....errr, at least said that it works with stock just fine.
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Yes i did go back to stock to check if it was the phone or the rom. It is the kit kat os...many other devices are reporting this problem.
Also noticed a CM bug, the camera has a hard time saving video over 10 seconds long and also the google play music app reboots the device for some reason...anyone else with this?
For now i am getting close to usual wifi after changing my settings around although it is still only 60-70% as strong as it should be :/
mauchito said:
I don't see the Eco Mode, maybe is just a feature of the ROM you are using? I see Wi-Fi optimization (minimize battery usage when Wi-Fi is on), is that it?
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Yes that is what it is...i just called it eco mode but yes it is the wifi optimization thingy
I flashed the pa moto ROM and with the WiFi, I had great signal, it just would not connect. To any router at all. It would sit at saved and never attempt to connect.
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tork0112 said:
I flashed the pa moto ROM and with the WiFi, I had great signal, it just would not connect. To any router at all. It would sit at saved and never attempt to connect.
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sometimes i get that too on CM. It wont connect to wifi till i literally come right up to the modem, otherwise if im walking around the house it wont even see the signal (if im moving around). I have to stop, stand there for like 2 minutes till it finds the signal. Usually if its 1-2 bars of wifi it wont even bother to try to connect.
This is a huge kit kat bug.
I always have had problems with WiFi, even on stock (because of a 3rd world internet provider).. But I can't download anything con google play... I download at 10kbps per second, but downloading from other apps or browser Its decent like 2-3mb/s. How can I fix this?
Arjomer said:
I always have had problems with WiFi, even on stock (because of a 3rd world internet provider).. But I can't download anything con google play... I download at 10kbps per second, but downloading from other apps or browser Its decent like 2-3mb/s. How can I fix this?
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now that i dont know.
My problem isn't internet speed. Even here in the USA i get 70kbps internet because to get anything more than that i need to pay 2 or 3 times more and i already pay 30 bucks a month for 70kb. But the problem is the signal, i cant get signal in my bedroom on kit kat rom, but i can on stock.
your problem? i really dont know, try clearing data on the play store, rebooting the phone and trying again. its probably a play store issue
Yeah.. I hope we could get a decent wifi reception on kk. And I already done that, Should I flash other gapps?
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I flashed the Pac Man 4.4.2 ROM on my kids Atrix HD, and that was the first thing I noticed. I was doing the work at my desk, which is located about 5' (with a typical wall in between) from my AT&T (Motorola) wireless router. Prior to that; I got full bars on the Wi-Fi signal strength meter anywhere within a 50-60-' radius. After I did the upgrade from Pac Man 4.3; sitting at my desk, 5' away from the router; I was only getting 3 bars - which - still works, but is a significant degradation in Wi-Fi performance. Sitting at the same desk, or anywhere on my property with either my Samsung S4 or Note 3, I have full bars, and full speed. Both of my Sammy's are running the stock AT&T KK update, unrooted - but living for the day that an exploit becomes available.
In fact; when I turn the corner onto my street (my house is the second house) my Sammy's connect to my router before I reach my driveway. Now, bear in mind; I have the power of my router turned up to a full 10. The router is located inside my bedroom closet near the ceiling, with no external antennas. I have it bridged to a dual band D-Link router for 5GHz with the 2GHz disabled. I carefully used a spectrum analyzer / logger to sweep the area for the best channels, as well. All that being said; I don't think much of that is relevant to the decreased Wi-Fi- performance of the Atrix HD, since it worked similarly to the Sammy's before the 4.4.2 bump.
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I flashed the Pac Man 4.4.2 ROM on my kids Atrix HD, and that was the first thing I noticed. I was doing the work at my desk, which is located about 5' (with a typical wall in between) from my AT&T (Motorola) wireless router. Prior to that; I got full bars on the Wi-Fi signal strength meter anywhere within a 50-60-' radius. After I did the upgrade from Pac Man 4.3; sitting at my desk, 5' away from the router; I was only getting 3 bars - which - still works, but is a significant degradation in Wi-Fi performance. Sitting at the same desk, or anywhere on my property with either my Samsung S4 or Note 3, I have full bars, and full speed. Both of my Sammy's are running the stock AT&T KK update, unrooted - but living for the day that an exploit becomes available.
In fact; when I turn the corner onto my street (my house is the second house) my Sammy's connect to my router before I reach my driveway. Now, bear in mind; I have the power of my router turned up to a full 10. The router is located inside my bedroom closet near the ceiling, with no external antennas. I have it bridged to a dual band D-Link router for 5GHz with the 2GHz disabled. I carefully used a spectrum analyzer / logger to sweep the area for the best channels, as well. All that being said; I don't think much of that is relevant to the decreased Wi-Fi- performance of the Atrix HD, since it worked similarly to the Sammy's before the 4.4.2 bump.
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I'm also on at&t except with a 2wire router. I had to move the router around to get slightly better signal. But still. I would sit in my friends house and I could use his parents houses WiFi (on the same property) and get 2 bars. Now its none.
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russian392 said:
I'm also on at&t except with a 2wire router. I had to move the router around to get slightly better signal. But still. I would sit in my friends house and I could use his parents houses WiFi (on the same property) and get 2 bars. Now its none.
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I had a 2Wire until last summer and it was a pretty decent router with decent coverage. I modified it by adding two external antennas and only made a slight difference. that was before rooting, tweaking, etc. The Motorola router is much better with respect to signal coverage - without any modifications.
The issue that I'm having, now is that I'm experiencing significantly less Wi Fi performance with the Atrix HD after I did the operating system upgrade. The other two stock phones are still working as well, or better than expected after the 4.4.2 update.
nukesnooper said:
I had a 2Wire until last summer and it was a pretty decent router with decent coverage. I modified it by adding two external antennas and only made a slight difference. that was before rooting, tweaking, etc. The Motorola router is much better with respect to signal coverage - without any modifications.
The issue that I'm having, now is that I'm experiencing significantly less Wi Fi performance with the Atrix HD after I did the operating system upgrade. The other two stock phones are still working as well, or better than expected after the 4.4.2 update.
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Are you using official 4.4?
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I'm curious how your wifi is performing because i'm getting pretty bad wifi reception and starting to think it's maybe a hardware fault.
On my old phone (One X) i'm getting full bars and a link speed of 72Mbps allmost everywhere in my livingroom.
On the One mini i have never had 72Mbps (max 54 and mostly 26 or lower) and frequently loose wifi connection in my house where the One X easally maintains a strong connection.
The same is with the bleutooth connection. When streaming music I only have to touch the top of the right corner and things start to stutter.
What is your experience? Please let me know so I know if i have to send it for repair.
Carlovn said:
I'm curious how your wifi is performing because i'm getting pretty bad wifi reception and starting to think it's maybe a hardware fault.
On my old phone (One X) i'm getting full bars and a link speed of 72Mbps allmost everywhere in my livingroom.
On the One mini i have never had 72Mbps (max 54 and mostly 26 or lower) and frequently loose wifi connection in my house where the One X easally maintains a strong connection.
The same is with the bleutooth connection. When streaming music I only have to touch the top of the right corner and things start to stutter.
What is your experience? Please let me know so I know if i have to send it for repair.
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It does sound bit strange. have you tried going into advance setting and put wifi optimization on?
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It does sound bit strange. have you tried going into advance setting and put wifi optimization on?
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Thanks for responding. I have tried that and it didn't seem te make a differnce.
What kind of link speeds are you getting?
You can check that by tapping on your wifi SSID when you are connected.
Thanks!
According to my phone, 65Mbps
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I have sent my device in for repair. I received a new phone and all problems are solved I have steady connection now